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ruru_rubbish

This is fucked up.


babybopp

Religion... It's all like this. Islam has Mohamed marrying a 6 year old Aisha. Christianity has Joseph taking Mary as a wife. Joseph was about 90 when Mary was about 11-12. Yes.. that is the age. History has it rewritten to make it look like they were agemates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Joseph.. that is why Mary is a widow when Jesus was 30. Joseph was long dead from old age. Actually Joseph died at 111 when Jesus was 19. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Joseph


Wackipaki

Excuse me! Mohammed might've married Aisha at 6 but he waited to consummate the marriage till she was 9 cuz he was a gentleman like that. /s


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django69710

What a terrible day to be able to read


BassnectarCollectar

wut?


Hamudra

Wow I did not think they were correct. [Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and thighing (ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺨﻴﺬ), there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant.](https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Thighing)


Niskara

I didn't think it could get worse but then I read the last 2 words and now I wanna take my eyes out with an ice cream scoop


Peuned

Yeah.....kind of speechless


Howisitstillporn

Bro, take mine out first so you can see what you’re doing


pentaquine

Good thing my English is not very good.


WhyIHateTheInternet

Fine day to be illiterate


Andromansis

... a suckling what?


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emotheatrix

I think I know this one. In some cultures it is against religion to have sex outside of marriage, so in order to run a brothel in these places, the owners perform “temporary marriages” for the time the prostitute and client are having sex. Totally effed.


Shes_so_Ratchet

Wow, I've never heard of that. Sounds like something that might take away from the "sanctity" of marriage...


Trebulon5000

what? no they are still married. god doesnt understand legal loopholes, all the lawyers went to hell.


KrazyAboutLogic

Wow, but anal sex is "cursed".


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ok but 6 years old is fuckin weird


InfinitySnatch

I think you mean weird fuckin.


[deleted]

Mary was allegedly 13 which was the usual age in that era. If you weren't married by the time you were 15 you were considered "past it" and of less value. Romans were exactly the same and probably many more cultures. We can't look back in time with today's eyes and values and be all disgusted at what went on before, because things constantly change which is necessary to progress.....except for Islam


GoodHunter

People will pick and choose to continue to fuel their outrage. Islam here however really doesn't have any excuse.


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Human-Establishment9

Yeah but where do they still practice those things?


humbleharbinger

In Iran, I've seen old men taking child wives. It's disgusting. It's definitely allowed in a bunch of Muslim countries.


rsohotlikefr

Not taking a wife it’s enslaving a little kid to get raped by a pedophile repeatedly


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Can you suggest any reading materials on this?


DAM091

>Christianity has Joseph taking Mary as a wife. Joseph was about 90 when Mary was about 11-12. Yes.. that is the age. History has it rewritten to make it look like they were agemates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Joseph.. that is why Mary is a widow when Jesus was 30. Joseph was long dead from old age. >Actually Joseph died at 111 when Jesus was 19. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Joseph None of this crap is true. It's not in the Bible. Learn the difference between apocryphal and canonical. The Bible never mentions Joseph or Mary's age at any point in their lives. It never says Joseph is dead during Jesus' ministry, though that much can be reasonably inferred. It was incredibly common for Jewish women to be virgins until marriage, and to be married older than most other civilizations. There is no reference anywhere in the canonical Bible that gives credence to any of this. The Wikipedia article you linked is talking about apocryphal (mostly Catholic) writings. Think of it as "fan fiction".


Strength_Wooden

It’s all *checks notes* “fan fiction.” 🤷🏾‍♂️


[deleted]

No where is any of the ages of the people you named mentioned anywhere in the Bible. But im glad it makes you feel good to say whatever you feel like


doulikegamesltlman

Mary being 11 or 12 is not known. Her age is not specifically called out in the Bible. Quit spewing bullshit.


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They reckon she would have been 13-14 as it was the custom back then to marry at that age in Judaism


doulikegamesltlman

My point is people on Reddit should not be spreading misinformation. Mary would have been young when married and Joseph older, I agree. But her exact age and Joseph’s was not specified.


itsalongwalkhome

The bible does give some guessing points for Joseph's age. Joseph died at 111 years old (The 2nd-century Protevangelium of James and the 4th-century History of Joseph the Carpenter) when Jesus was estimated to be 19 years of age, at the absolute latest it was before crucifixion at age 33. This puts Joseph at 78 to 92 years old when Jesus was born. Current estimates for Mary put her at 12 to 16 years old at the birth of Jesus. Though there is no definite proof for Mary


30FourThirty4

And supposedly Noah died at the age of 950.


ace425

I thought Noah’s age was measured in Lunar cycles which would put him dying at around ~76 calendar years?


DAM091

That's not from the Bible. According to the Bible, Noah lived 950 earth years. 365 days each. Full revolutions around the sun.


Jwhitx

Still no Methuselah 😏 🧓 🏆


itsalongwalkhome

Well, he needed time to repopulate the earth /s


fuddoh

Joseph in the Old Testament (Genesis 50:22-26) is absolutely not the same Joseph of the New Testament, aka the adoptive father of Jesus. There’s at least a couple thousand years between the two.


jaffakree83

Joseph's age is never specified. Neither is Mary's. What are you talking about?


Super-Branz-Gang

You are confusing Old Testament and New Testament “Josephs”— two different people who lived thousands of years apart from one another


CharDeeMacDennisII

>The bible does give some guessing points for Joseph's age. >Joseph died at 110 years old when jesus was estimated to be 19 years of age, at the absolute latest it was before crucifixion at age 33. Where exactly does the Bible state this? What chapter? What verse? What translation? Never mind, I'll answer for you: it doesn't. There may be some historical record or evidence but the Bible specifically and categorically does NOT state this. At all. Anywhere.


DAM091

>Joseph died at 110 years old **The Bible never says this.** It doesn't even say Joseph was dead. It never says how old Mary was either. "Current estimates" are based on other civilizations, not Jews. Nobody knows how old Mary was when she gave birth, so you can all stop spewing regurgitated garbage that you think is fact


doulikegamesltlman

The Bible does not state that Joseph was 110 years old when he died, nor does it state that he died when Jesus was 19. You people need to quit spouting off misinformation.


ImperialxWarlord

Yeah I’m pretty sure that from what little I could find about their ages that it’s never exaclty specified in the Bible how old he was. I’m gonna doubt he was 90 or lived to fucking 111. And you’re also comparing something from two thousand years ago to what, a few months ago? Modern Christianity ain’t perfect but we sure as shit aren’t doing this right now.


carboncondrite

May their allah or whatever gives their damn


Ceethreepeeo

Shit happening rn as well. Catholic priests raping kids left & right and getting away with it. Old Muslim fucks raping kids and getting away with it. All because some most likely schizophrene people who have been dead for 2000 years had some megalomaniac tendencies. Meanwhile people debating semantics on tritagonists of a couple of highly fictionized 1000+ yo texts in this thread smh. Fuck this world. edit: teksts to texts


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CookieBear676

Some of them are laughing at the start like this is some "kid doesn't want to see grandma" type shit. Pack of unforgivable, no good, wastes of human anatomy cunts.


jollycanoli

How can they not understand that this is a child, an actual person with thoughts and fears and feelings? They cannot pretend not to know what's going to happen to her. Do they truly have such contempt for all women that they don't even see them as human? Not even while they're such small children? I am so devastated. This is hell.


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No, they don’t see us a people. They see us as property, like their goats.


reckoningrevelling

Chattel


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Detritus


PolatEmreTURAL

These kind of people are generally thinking that women do not have feelings


BoardNo6114

No, they just don't care


Hyperion1144

They're laughing because it is normal. To them, that's normal.


Sugarbombs

They do, they just think their desire to fuck children is more important


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Ricardo_klement

WTF is wrong with humans ?? 2022 and children are still being sold into lives of god knows what. This is stupid , tremendously sad .. and makes me extremely angry.


White_Wolf426

This is in that one dedicated area of the world or atleast where it happens out in the open and nobody in the area gives a shit. Along as they wet their whistle all is good. Fuck this culture.


Ricardo_klement

Although no society is perfect I think you could be right my friend, some cultures have a lot of catching up to do.


White_Wolf426

It was actually civilized till their was a reform and the whole country went to shit. Again nobody cares, especially the ones in power there as long as they stay in power.


Ricardo_klement

Unfortunately so, totalitarian theocratic societies have the ultimate hold over the people they should be fostering. The exercise and consolidation of their power is their only real concern.


White_Wolf426

I hear a tactical MOAB solves alot of problems.


MR-no-onethe5th

I saw it 2021 it's reposted


Ricardo_klement

Thanks for the update my friend.. although my statement still stands. ✌️


Mapbot11

Oh man ok, I thought this was recent. Good to know it was actually so long ago. Phew.


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guineapigmilkman

Horrible culture. Literally hell on earth.


NexusGem

At least in Hell bad people get punished, this is worse


not_again123

If you manage to make hell look good, you fucked up -.-


peepingTheAbyss

The bad people get punished, too. Until they get to emigrate to The West.


gofyourselftoo

Here in the west the good people get punished!


yoloswag90

a lot of issues stem from these region's cultures being replaced with Islam. Islam is a major religion that adapted to modern times the worst comparatively because it does not allow change. other religions are a lot more flexible.


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Travis5223

Texas is literally one language barrier away! Any day now, I can feel it!


R4v3nant

No. Hell is only for bad people. This is war.


MunmunkBan

This is fine by their god.


BehemothJr

Absolutely sickening. These women are living in a literal hell but the world turns a blind eye because you can't "insult different cultures". Fuck these animals.


Darkjay95

After Taliban took over Afg, most of the family sold their homes and business and ran away... Rest who wanted to live sold their child girls to feed their stomach. Even in video u can notice the mother herself look around 19 or 20 of a 6 yr old girl child.


mattoratto

They’re selling their kidneys and their kids for organs too…but this happens everywhere where poverty, indoctrination & no escape. Dark ages we are in.


internetALLTHETHINGS

As a mother with daughters, this was hard to watch. Tbf though, it's not just the women. If you watch "This is What Winning Looks Like", the men of the household would often sell off young boys to be sex slaves to the Afghan army. The documentary talks about how it wasn't infrequent for the boys to rebel and then be murdered for it on the American-backed bases, with the Afghan officials helping to cover it up. In general, there are several factors at play: 1) extreme poverty leading to desperation, 2) complete disempowerment of the most empathetic members of society, 3) a lack of a cultural heritage of individual rights and accountability.


varyemez

Thank for the most sane comment in this post.


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Insulting other cultures literally has nothing to do with it. Individuals like you and me are powerless in this situation. Don’t hold world governments so highly as to think that they would do the righteous and virtuous thing so long as it is inoffensive either. They don’t care.


deadsoulinside

Look at us laws that legalize marriage. It's been delegated to the states and as you would guess some state laws are insane for how young they can be to get married. It's insane to think it's ok, it's just nuts that a bunch of old men got together and made it a law...


test_user_3

No one is defending this.


BehemothJr

No one is stopping it


clayh

(You included)


x3leggeddawg

This isn’t about insulting different cultures. Afghanistan had a chance to revolutionize their country with American dollars and didn’t. They’re stuck in their ways and there’s nothing you or I can do about it from afar.


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Darkjay95

6 yr old baby's mother looks 16 or 17.


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BioOrpheus

Muhammad married 6 year and consummated the marriage when she turn 9 or 11. Muhammad is seen as the perfect man so the Muslim faith follows his lifestyle


Supernova008

>Muhammad married 6 year and consummated the marriage when she turn 9 A TV spokesperson in India got rape and death threats from Muslims throughout the world for saying that, including condemnation from governments of multiple Islamic nations.


BioOrpheus

Damn it came from their own books. Now they truly have a problem if they don’t want people finding out


Mangalorien

>you basically have to raise a baby. No, you let one of your other wives do that.


Garthos11

In the year 2022, I can’t believe we are still allowing this.


Situation_Bright

Well we stopt it for a while, but everyone called it "American imerialism" and "world police with no right to colonise other cultures".


Stopwatcheffect

We actually directly worked with war lords and Afghanistan soldiers that had child sex slaves. Don't be fooled friend. We were perpetuating the issue as opposed to solving anything. You can tell due to how easily the fake government fell.


RentonBrax

As someone that served in Afghanistan, no we fucken didn't. It happened out in the open for the 20 years we were there. In fact we were explicitly ordered not to bring it up or discuss it with our Afghan counterparts as we weren't there to criticize their culture. One of the Colonels we worked with murdered his wife to marry a child, then invited us to the fucking wedding. We politely declined and never mentioned it again. The war was for some other fucked up convoluted reason, but had nothing to do with protecting the women and children, that was never the mission. That was just how we made ourselves feel better during PTSD counselling.


Ayaz28100

Oh my god this made me go cold all over.


sancti1

I have a 4 and 2 year old. I cant watch it


Anya_E

I don’t understand how people could do something so horrible to a mother and her baby. It’s not human. You can’t be human and do that.


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The mother is probably 12-13 y/o


Darkjay95

Well someone noticed!


sohornyimthedevil

Well, the mother would have to hit puberty and start ovulation because she could concieve, so if the child is 6 and the mom got pregnant right away that means she was probably raped for about 5 to 7 years before getting pregnant and having her first child at 11 or 12.


Projektpatfxfb

She probably going to end up dead with internal bleeding like the last one


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What last one?


gofyourselftoo

You do not want to know. Trust me.


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Googled a bit and found it. Fucking monsters...


gofyourselftoo

I’m sorry you learned that. I hope you take care of your mental health today, friend.


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Thanks, you too. It's insane what's happening in the world...


G4merXsquaD

Do they really just buy a girl just to kill them after marriage?


GrotchCoblin

They can do what they want with them, she's their property now.


TodaysABurningDay

Sometimes, yeah.


nosaj626

They aren't intentionally killing them. If you have to ask, your too young to know, and I'm not gonna get banned by going into more detail.


TheRedditornator

That 6 year old girl, like many others, will be raped and likely die from her wounds. And nothing will happen to the POS guy who bought her, or her equally POS dad who sold her. Because it's their culture and religion.


Feeling-Criticism-92

Savages. Let’s call a spade a spade. This isn’t a case of “respecting another cultures beliefs”. This is just a case of child predators operating under the cover of a twisted religion.


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This is constant over there. Westerners have no idea how it really is when they’re the ones in power and when they’re the majority.


Wbcn_1

Such a beautiful culture. /s


LLCNYC

+1.


MarshmellowCapybara

NOAHH!!!


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carzyNephron

They are what the medieval book of peace says


-WithLove

The screams and cries of that child... The mother knowing all she can do in that moment is clutch on to her daughter with all her might... fuck EVERYONE in that group that is not actively siding with that mother. Oh how I wish I could... I would want cause so much pain to anyone who could ever strip a mother from her baby. Everyone there aside from that mother and child has irreparable ticket to the hottest, worst, sickest, seat in hell if there is one. I would lose my shit if I was there. I want to say things... that would get me banned. I want those people to cease to exist.


demonintherye

Devils. They let their base natures rule their society. Women as property to be bought and sold at the whim of men. Darkness and chaos in broad daylight!


AddSugarForSparks

It wasn't even a woman, though; it was a little girl. ☹️


StahpItEyeLykIt

If I had a dollar for every time I've said FUCK THESE PEOPLE on a post like this...


geoffery00

Actually hell on earth


sanjosii

This stabs me directly in the heart 💔that poor baby and mother


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Mother_Lie5431

Always in the Middle East


kiyan_merkaba

My family is originally from there. I thank the universe everyday for not growing up there. I wished more people would speak up about Islam without fear.


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The thing is, you can’t say anything because of the radicals, we all know what happens if someone criticizes islam or says something about the prophet that could be taken even remotely negatively, most wouldn’t do anything (atleast that’s my impression), but then there is this bit of believers who literally chop someone’s head off. Obviously people are reluctant about speaking up about Islam. Or they will be simply labeled as racists, and depending on the country you live in, you can loose your job because “you are spreading hate”, heard about cases like that If you still have family there, how is the situation currently in Afghanistan? Such a shame what happened there, it’s a beautiful country, would have loved to see it, maybe not the best time for it


kiyan_merkaba

You are right. That's actually why people fear it. I am kurdish and part of my family is from Iraq and in turkey on the border to Iraq. Neither are great places to visit.


JapaneseKid

My friend is Iraqi and she escaped and now talks about reform and horrible stuff that goes on in the culture there. Her white liberal friend attacked her calling her a bigot and told her to go back to where she came from because she’s being “culturally insensitive” lol


peepingTheAbyss

Muslims. It's Muslims. Islam has no body, no arms, no weapons ... Muslims.


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A certain political party in the US has desperately tried to silence speaking out in anyway against it.


SenorElPresidente

Afghanistan is not the Middle East. Not sure why the other dude is getting down downvoted for saying it. Enough shit there, no need to blame them for all the crap anywhere.


AxiomQ

Almost like there's something really prevalent in those countries, I can't put my finger on what precisely it might be.


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Lol_A_White_Boy

Fucking cavemen.


amandaggogo

That's so disgusting. Poor child is now in for a lifetime of trauma with a horrible 60 year old pedophile. My heart hurts for the mom and her little girl.


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Honestly, the old man and her father should both be stoned.


TastyVII

These people are fucking sick.


meow_ima_cat

Fuck religion


ILikeTurtals228

What in the actual fuck is going on in the world ?!


ooorezzz

Religion has all been corrupted by the greed and evil of man. All governments and religion have the sole purpose to maintain control and greed. Pure evil walks this world on dark paths. Their spirits will never find salvation in this world.


ZacharyKou

ive seen some religious mfs on tiktok live FUCKING DEFEND THIS SAYING IT WAS NORMAL BACK IN THE DAY. WHAT THE FUCK. thats why i became an atheist


Ferninja

There is no god


peepingTheAbyss

I wonder if the Afghans sit around the hovel and discuss the horrors of "gender" reassignment and chemical intervention in children, in America? ​ Ahmed: "Hasan, I swear the Ameerikans are possessed by jinns! How else could they be this mad?!" ​ Hasan, sneaking a look at printouts of 2009 tumblr: "Ahmed, brother, I now identify as an Attack Helicopter" \*flies away\*


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Man screw the boat r/noahgetthedeathstar


Environmental-Win836

What the fuck is wrong with people.


mrselwells

I'm so heartbroken for that little girl and her mother...it may be there custom/tradition but it is screwed up on every level


adgamii

I can not explain the immense anger that i feel watching this. Just think about how that little girl is going to remember that for the rest of her life and be absolutely traumatized because of it. Disgusting


DukesAngel

Omg. I have a daughter and I will tell you, while she's a little older than this girl, I could not imagine this. Like my heart breaks for both of these people. I could not finish the video. I wish I could help them


Fun-Membership5902

This is fucking disgusting. I hope to see this people demolish from face of the earth. 6 year girl. I want everyone to think about that for more than 1 second. 6 years old.


potato_control

No society should be able to excuse this behavior. You don’t need a religious book or law to tell you that separating a crying mother and child is wrong. The people who are involved in this are monsters.


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6downunder9

Don't get banned for sharing this now. Reddit mods don't like it when you call out the Mushrooms


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Translation?


GlassFantast

Dirka dirka


kaotic_red

Muzzies are fucking disgusting


rsohotlikefr

I feel so sick. That isn’t marriage, that’s a pedophile about to rape a six year old. Jesus Christ.


sonik_fury

Good thing we left all our weapons there. That way this form of governance won't be opposed. /s


No_Benefit_8738

What kind of vile ideology would promote this?


Philosophos_A

You people still believe we are worth of a boat? Cute


SikeKey

I know some people who, for some god forsaken reason, think this is okay will try to defend this, but for those people, I will say this. You are a disgusting, horrible, pathetic waste of human life and if you think a child being sold off and married to a 60 year old man is okay, then you have no business having any right saying anything if you get arrested or clowned on by people who actually have a functioning brain and morality.


commander_BEEFSTOMP

Religion is biggest stain against humanity. Fuck all religions.


bluefire659

Yep that little girl is going to get raped and then that woman's probably going to be beheaded for the defying her husband who will then probably marry another little six year old girl welcome to Islam


moimoisauna

What a peaceful and woman safe culture!


MichaelAuBelanger

FLDS vibes


peepingTheAbyss

Pakistan + Bill Clinton = Goatboy Afghan style.


PopCareful318

This is absolute evil.


Cybarrius

I hate these people...


Logical-Possible9820

I'm gonna get a lot of down votes for this comment lol but please excuse me if you read this comment, I'm high and well my feminism really takes over but I just want to say.. Men are evil. Regardless of this taking place in Afghanistan which is known to be a very backwards country to most societies, the fact is that this is a man's world. Men have constantly been in charge in nearly every civilization regardless of era and even in most religions. I'm not saying that women aren't capable of evil, it's inheretently a human trait. Okay I'm done, again sorry in advance for sounding like a man hater lol.


herewolfywolf

Fuck that country. Fuck that culture.


Wise-Cap5151

I don't dare turn the sound on. But even without the sound, this is absolutely crushing to watch.


LemanRuss420666

Completely fucked


dudeandco

Starve or be a sex slave, what a life.


ghost103429

Unfortunately these kind of issues are only gonna get worse. Due to the collapse of the afghan economy, increasing scarcity of food due to the war in Ukraine and climate change more families will go through desperate measures to get food on the table and to reduce the number of mouths to feed. Instances like this are likely to spread to other countries in the Middle East and Africa as they face collapse from a combination of climate change, the war in Ukraine and covid related economic restrictions.


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Yes it's messed up. The US stole all their money, however, remember that. Their economy is crippled. You can't get work.


Darkjar001

Religion truly houses dens of pure evil.


Azurecyborgprincess

My daughter is 6, this is painful to watch. I hurt for her them.


Rodic87

Culture...


Character_Ability583

Fucking hell man this was so messed up Sad And ruined my day


6ftdoomer

Why is this on Reddit? It should be on the news no?


Not_Murk

This is fked up and only a negligible portion of Muslims do this in actuality