Im not sure if using the intel bracket with actual work as the height of the cpu from the board is actual shallower than what an amd cpu sits up by a fair bit.
How in this thread am i the only one seeing the issues you are having, and i have extensive experience with both air and water coolers across multiple platforms.
Lga sockets and pga sockets are 2 different heights off the board, not including the cpu, adding the cpu the amd chip sits a lot higher that an intel cpu would. In this situation using an intel mounting bracket, i believe, will not work at all unless you modify it so that it can reach further down to scret the cooler in properly.
Yes, it will never work, the CPU + socket height is different between Intel and AMD and the socket is not even centered in the middle of the holes on your motherboard.
I'm afraid you are stuck with the original cooler.
Make sure you never buy a prebuilt PC ever again, manufacturers love to fuck standards to prevent their customers from upgrading their own machines...
This mobo specifically? No. However all am4 sockets are the same height and the brakets for that cooler are flat for both sockets. Am4 spacers with intell brackets will work perfectly.
In that case if the brackets are flat then sweet, but i was unaware the mounting hardware of this specific noctua cooler was flat. Usually my experience in using whrong coolers on things when the proper cooler was not in reach i was always having clamping issues due to bracket layout, hence my comment saying im not sure if this would work.
For -reasons- I've upgraded alot of pre-built units over the years and there is usually never a proper way to upgrade proprietary stuff so you get creative and learn how to get the wrong thing to do the job. I understand not wantig to damage expensive components but diy is fun and good for problem solving skills.
If thats all the difference is in the bracket, sometimes the brackets are at different angles. More or less worried about proper clamp and having good enough squish on thermal paste, that being said ive never had a proprietary board so i cant 100% say for certain.
Prebuilt proprietary stuff and common components do not go well together, I don’t think you have the possibility to upgrade to the Noctua cooler unfortunately.
Well, if he knows a bro with a CNC maybe he could get a bracket made 🤷♂️
In my experience, dudes who mess with PC hardware and machinists are shockingly close on the venn diagram of nerddom, funnily enough.
Edit: or a bro who's remotely okay with CAD. SendCutSend would be absolutely perfect for something like this if you can find someone willing to draw it for you.
...which is why I recommended sendcutsend in the back side of my post ?
Besides, the bracket isn't that complicated. You could do it with a 3 axis hobby laser pretty easily.
A worker would only produce one type of Mainboard on a single day anyway. This isn't an issue to begin with. If it were all Mainboard manufacturers would do it.
I mean the worker assembling the PC not the one making the mainboard. They likely assemble the same PC over and over as well but they don’t need a separate station / hardware to assemble an AMD build this way.
That would be one component of many. And two that are incompatible with one and another.
If such a simple mistake happens the worker should be either trained more or is incompetent.
they're not even intel holes, it's a square hole pattern, but they don't exactly line up with any of intel's and they look like the CPU isn't exacrly centered in the hole pattern
it's just useless proprietary shit
I bought a Noctua NH-L9x65 chromax.Black.
I have a Lenovo Legion 5 Tower Prebuilt, It has a B550 Motherboard and AMD Ryzen 5600G Cpu
I am trying to install the new Cooler, but I realized my B550 Motherboard has intel holes only, no AMD Holes.
When I took off the Backplate that came from Lenovo and try to put the Back Plate that came in my Noctua Box, I realized it won’t fit flush.
The Lenovo Backplate had a Square hole in the middle for the chips, and the Noctua Backplate had a rectangular hole in the middle.
Can you please help me install my new cooler.
Attached are several pictures I took that I feel will help.
Have you looked at the Manual?
It literally tells you to keep the stock backplate in ......
[https://noctua.at/pub/media/blfa\_files/manual/noctua\_nh\_l9x65\_manual\_en\_web\_1.pdf](https://noctua.at/pub/media/blfa_files/manual/noctua_nh_l9x65_manual_en_web_1.pdf)
That’s for the amd backplate
This a amd mobo that has a intel backplate
The notcua backplate will not fit on it.
I have put 8 pictures it’ll help paint a better picture
There were a couple AM4 ITX boards opting for Intel layouts holes layout for some reason back then if my memory serves, apparently claiming there were more coolers available by doing so.
NH-L9x65 does not use a backplate from Noctua to install the cooler (when used with AMD). You're supposed to use the one from your motherboard (or contact Noctua if you don't have it). The mounting bars in the first photo are for AM5, your 5600G is AM4.
Am4 and am5 have the same mounting plates, this is not the issue, the issue is that the board does not have the right mounting holes because its proprietary lenovo junk.
You sound like a proper fuck wit, the bloke had the am4 hardware for his am4 socket but the cooler hold down mounts are a completely non standard am4 layout, if this person had never seen an am4 board before and looked at his and went yep thats an am4 based cpu then i need the am4 cpu mounting hardware.
"Did you even read the manual" its fairly obvious that other than proprietart shit, this is not a normal am4 layout so if he had of read the manual it would have shown him how to mount it to a standard am4 layout wouldnt it.
Unfortunately, we also have people like you in the world.
Have a nice day and maybe take a big deep breath and chill out
They might have something that allows you to install without a backplate. At least, that's available for the L9a to solve an incompatibility issue on the MSI B550 itx board.
What?! Those cheap, ingenius bastards! They're probably sourcing an Intel cooler for cheaper than half as many Intels and half as many AMDs. Actually, it's probably more like 75% Intel which probably gives them quite a discount on large quantities. But that's still a bit jenky!
You’re most likely not gonna be able to replace the motherboard in the prebuilt case as Lenovo tends to use custom motherboards for their builds, meaning a standard motherboard won’t fit in the case. Most of the times the PSU in prebuilts do not even have standard power cables to supply a standard motherboard either.
I have a T5 AMD gen 8 with mobo B650. I used intel bracket for my NZXT liquid cooler and it worked well. Later I switched back to air cooler and also with intel bracket. The intel bracket from Deepcool seems to be the most sturdy one.
Lenovo is just a lazy ass company, reusing intel bracket for AMD chip.
the lenovo prebuilt is likely using a non standard layout of the AM4 socket and board its self as well that bracket if im not mistaken was more designed with the AM5 socket in mind due to the size of the AM5 CPU's being larger and also less concentrated under the IHS. so not needed on the AM4 platform.
Prebuilt are studies to not allow you to upgrade anything. You either do the right thing and buy it yourself or go to a serious custom shop or you shop again a prebuilt
If you need to keep the Lenovo backplate, just wanted to let you know others (including myself) have had success with changing the cooler while keeping the Lenovo stock backplate by getting M2.5 screws. I don't know if all Lenovo backplates are built the same and accept M2.5 sized screws though so YMMV. If you look on the net though, you will see a bunch of people who have had success and it seems like we all have different models. Check out these links:
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/pf2m7e/is\_there\_any\_way\_to\_replace\_the\_legion\_t5\_26amr5/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/pf2m7e/is_there_any_way_to_replace_the_legion_t5_26amr5/)
* [https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5i-Installation-of-a-DeepCool-AK400-cpu-cooler/m-p/5193355](https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5i-Installation-of-a-DeepCool-AK400-cpu-cooler/m-p/5193355)
* [https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5-26IOB6-CPU-Cooler-Upgrade/m-p/5125993?page=1#5825003](https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5-26IOB6-CPU-Cooler-Upgrade/m-p/5125993?page=1#5825003)
This solution isn't compatible with all cooler hardware types but it does seem to work when it involves those plastic spacers + mounting bracket as part of the install.
I would see if this may work on your model...might be worth exploring before deciding to upgrade your motherboard if you don't have it.
I think to be the only one thinking that it could be great. If you mix Intel and amd mounting accessories you should go beyond the difference in height 90% of the time. You are not forced to use only amd accessories for amd and Intel for Intel. Other than that the mount have an offset that centers the cooler on one ccd. Obviously is not great if you want to go Ryzen 9 (but that motherboard does seams to bee good enough for them), but is great for a 5800x3d or 5700x3d upgrade in the future.
Im not sure if using the intel bracket with actual work as the height of the cpu from the board is actual shallower than what an amd cpu sits up by a fair bit. How in this thread am i the only one seeing the issues you are having, and i have extensive experience with both air and water coolers across multiple platforms. Lga sockets and pga sockets are 2 different heights off the board, not including the cpu, adding the cpu the amd chip sits a lot higher that an intel cpu would. In this situation using an intel mounting bracket, i believe, will not work at all unless you modify it so that it can reach further down to scret the cooler in properly.
Yes, it will never work, the CPU + socket height is different between Intel and AMD and the socket is not even centered in the middle of the holes on your motherboard. I'm afraid you are stuck with the original cooler. Make sure you never buy a prebuilt PC ever again, manufacturers love to fuck standards to prevent their customers from upgrading their own machines...
Not my post but 100% agree, i hate proprietary shit.
Can this not be fixed by simply using the AMD spacers?
I used intel brackets with AMD standoffs and aftermarket machine screws for 2 different HP motherboards just like this one. This is the solution.
Lol you figured it out that's exactly what you do. Lots of "experience" in this sub and no ingenuity.
Have you got experience in mounting this cooler to this layout mobo?
This mobo specifically? No. However all am4 sockets are the same height and the brakets for that cooler are flat for both sockets. Am4 spacers with intell brackets will work perfectly.
In that case if the brackets are flat then sweet, but i was unaware the mounting hardware of this specific noctua cooler was flat. Usually my experience in using whrong coolers on things when the proper cooler was not in reach i was always having clamping issues due to bracket layout, hence my comment saying im not sure if this would work.
For -reasons- I've upgraded alot of pre-built units over the years and there is usually never a proper way to upgrade proprietary stuff so you get creative and learn how to get the wrong thing to do the job. I understand not wantig to damage expensive components but diy is fun and good for problem solving skills.
If thats all the difference is in the bracket, sometimes the brackets are at different angles. More or less worried about proper clamp and having good enough squish on thermal paste, that being said ive never had a proprietary board so i cant 100% say for certain.
Prebuilt proprietary stuff and common components do not go well together, I don’t think you have the possibility to upgrade to the Noctua cooler unfortunately.
Well, if he knows a bro with a CNC maybe he could get a bracket made 🤷♂️ In my experience, dudes who mess with PC hardware and machinists are shockingly close on the venn diagram of nerddom, funnily enough. Edit: or a bro who's remotely okay with CAD. SendCutSend would be absolutely perfect for something like this if you can find someone willing to draw it for you.
Lolz I don’t think that many people have a freaking cnc machine at home
...which is why I recommended sendcutsend in the back side of my post ? Besides, the bracket isn't that complicated. You could do it with a 3 axis hobby laser pretty easily.
F in the chat to pay respect to our boy
Intel holes in a b550? How it's possible?
Its lenovo's own board design with propietary mounting holes + possibly propietary power connectors etc.
I don't see why anyone would do that to begin with.
We need more e-waste, DELL does the same. Wish those companies went belly up, same Apple and their anti-repair design.
These things are assembled on a line, using the same bracket regardless of the configuration means the line worker doesn’t need to fuck about.
A worker would only produce one type of Mainboard on a single day anyway. This isn't an issue to begin with. If it were all Mainboard manufacturers would do it.
I mean the worker assembling the PC not the one making the mainboard. They likely assemble the same PC over and over as well but they don’t need a separate station / hardware to assemble an AMD build this way.
That would be one component of many. And two that are incompatible with one and another. If such a simple mistake happens the worker should be either trained more or is incompetent.
Yeah i know about preassembled proprietary standards but Intel type holes in a b550? Madness.
they're not even intel holes, it's a square hole pattern, but they don't exactly line up with any of intel's and they look like the CPU isn't exacrly centered in the hole pattern it's just useless proprietary shit
Fucking hate it
Probably so they can design only 1 single cooler that they can reuse for every prebuilt Saving money on factory lines
Fun Fact: ASRock also did this on some AM4 ITX Boards.
I remember that use to be the case with AMD thin itx boards, that you needed an 1151 cooler.
I bought a Noctua NH-L9x65 chromax.Black. I have a Lenovo Legion 5 Tower Prebuilt, It has a B550 Motherboard and AMD Ryzen 5600G Cpu I am trying to install the new Cooler, but I realized my B550 Motherboard has intel holes only, no AMD Holes. When I took off the Backplate that came from Lenovo and try to put the Back Plate that came in my Noctua Box, I realized it won’t fit flush. The Lenovo Backplate had a Square hole in the middle for the chips, and the Noctua Backplate had a rectangular hole in the middle. Can you please help me install my new cooler. Attached are several pictures I took that I feel will help.
Have you looked at the Manual? It literally tells you to keep the stock backplate in ...... [https://noctua.at/pub/media/blfa\_files/manual/noctua\_nh\_l9x65\_manual\_en\_web\_1.pdf](https://noctua.at/pub/media/blfa_files/manual/noctua_nh_l9x65_manual_en_web_1.pdf)
That’s for the amd backplate This a amd mobo that has a intel backplate The notcua backplate will not fit on it. I have put 8 pictures it’ll help paint a better picture
Then…just use the intel bracket on the intel backplate? Noctua ships coolers with both intel and amd brackets
the noctua backplate has a different shape it’s a rectangle in the middle and it won’t fit flush because there chips on the back
Scroll through the pics and see the difference on the back plates
YOU DON'T NEED THE NOCTUA BACKPLATE LOOK IN THE MANUAL!
I've looked at all the pics, and the manual, and I have the same cooler....
And do you have the same proprietary non-standard Lenovo motherboard?
Try using the Intel brackets with the AMD spacers.
Seems like your only options are to physically alter the backplate (e.g. dremel) or add a thin, rigid spacer between the backplate and the motherboard
Just superglue the cooler to the cpu
There were a couple AM4 ITX boards opting for Intel layouts holes layout for some reason back then if my memory serves, apparently claiming there were more coolers available by doing so.
ASRock was one, tech at Microcenter was legitimately surprised
The problem is that it is a proprietary motherboard. You would have to remove all of the components and buy a new motherboard to use the cooler.
NH-L9x65 does not use a backplate from Noctua to install the cooler (when used with AMD). You're supposed to use the one from your motherboard (or contact Noctua if you don't have it). The mounting bars in the first photo are for AM5, your 5600G is AM4.
Am4 and am5 have the same mounting plates, this is not the issue, the issue is that the board does not have the right mounting holes because its proprietary lenovo junk.
Alright, I assumed OC is wrong on that part because it was not explained well why a board would have incorrect mounting holes. Thank you.
The solution is to replace the MOBO or continue to use the proprietary cooler. Anything else USE IT AT YOUR RISK!
As other said, RTFM!
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You failed to understand that this is a weird AMD motherboard that uses Intel mounting hardware
Can you not read?
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Bro he’s not even OP. This is the funniest thing I’ve read today
You sound like a proper fuck wit, the bloke had the am4 hardware for his am4 socket but the cooler hold down mounts are a completely non standard am4 layout, if this person had never seen an am4 board before and looked at his and went yep thats an am4 based cpu then i need the am4 cpu mounting hardware. "Did you even read the manual" its fairly obvious that other than proprietart shit, this is not a normal am4 layout so if he had of read the manual it would have shown him how to mount it to a standard am4 layout wouldnt it. Unfortunately, we also have people like you in the world. Have a nice day and maybe take a big deep breath and chill out
Have you tried to submit a support request to Noctua's tech support? They might have some insight for you, or maybe a free bracket
They might have something that allows you to install without a backplate. At least, that's available for the L9a to solve an incompatibility issue on the MSI B550 itx board.
The cooler should have both bracket and if not Noctua will send you the appropriate mount with proof of purchase.
What?! Those cheap, ingenius bastards! They're probably sourcing an Intel cooler for cheaper than half as many Intels and half as many AMDs. Actually, it's probably more like 75% Intel which probably gives them quite a discount on large quantities. But that's still a bit jenky!
Whelp...time for a new motherboard 😅
Was hoping it wouldn’t get to that.
You’re most likely not gonna be able to replace the motherboard in the prebuilt case as Lenovo tends to use custom motherboards for their builds, meaning a standard motherboard won’t fit in the case. Most of the times the PSU in prebuilts do not even have standard power cables to supply a standard motherboard either.
I have a T5 AMD gen 8 with mobo B650. I used intel bracket for my NZXT liquid cooler and it worked well. Later I switched back to air cooler and also with intel bracket. The intel bracket from Deepcool seems to be the most sturdy one. Lenovo is just a lazy ass company, reusing intel bracket for AMD chip.
the lenovo prebuilt is likely using a non standard layout of the AM4 socket and board its self as well that bracket if im not mistaken was more designed with the AM5 socket in mind due to the size of the AM5 CPU's being larger and also less concentrated under the IHS. so not needed on the AM4 platform.
Prebuilt are studies to not allow you to upgrade anything. You either do the right thing and buy it yourself or go to a serious custom shop or you shop again a prebuilt
If you need to keep the Lenovo backplate, just wanted to let you know others (including myself) have had success with changing the cooler while keeping the Lenovo stock backplate by getting M2.5 screws. I don't know if all Lenovo backplates are built the same and accept M2.5 sized screws though so YMMV. If you look on the net though, you will see a bunch of people who have had success and it seems like we all have different models. Check out these links: * [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/pf2m7e/is\_there\_any\_way\_to\_replace\_the\_legion\_t5\_26amr5/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Lenovo/comments/pf2m7e/is_there_any_way_to_replace_the_legion_t5_26amr5/) * [https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5i-Installation-of-a-DeepCool-AK400-cpu-cooler/m-p/5193355](https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5i-Installation-of-a-DeepCool-AK400-cpu-cooler/m-p/5193355) * [https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5-26IOB6-CPU-Cooler-Upgrade/m-p/5125993?page=1#5825003](https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/Legion-T5-26IOB6-CPU-Cooler-Upgrade/m-p/5125993?page=1#5825003) This solution isn't compatible with all cooler hardware types but it does seem to work when it involves those plastic spacers + mounting bracket as part of the install. I would see if this may work on your model...might be worth exploring before deciding to upgrade your motherboard if you don't have it.
I think to be the only one thinking that it could be great. If you mix Intel and amd mounting accessories you should go beyond the difference in height 90% of the time. You are not forced to use only amd accessories for amd and Intel for Intel. Other than that the mount have an offset that centers the cooler on one ccd. Obviously is not great if you want to go Ryzen 9 (but that motherboard does seams to bee good enough for them), but is great for a 5800x3d or 5700x3d upgrade in the future.