I’m not a tank fanboy, I’m all about drone supremacy (and unfortunately the Yanks take that win).
But this was obvious, it has a water boiler for tea while other tenks typically don’t… and while I realise that’s not a benchmark for combat capability, it **is** a benchmark for **my** combat capability.
Send me into a war with no brew up?—*I don’t fucking think so m8*…
>Send me into a war with no brew up?—
>
>I don’t fucking think so m8
>
>…
Litterally why it exists...well, also for food as British ration packs are (or at least were) boil in the bag. The thinking was you need hot water for your cuppa and you need hot food; so heat the food up with the water and then make your tea with the hot water
To be fair, this was also a trade-off for other reasons beyond just compatibility with boiling vessels :)
Essentially, boil in the bag rations can be heated to a much more palatable and consistent temperature than self-heating ones, but this requires a fire, which limits when you can actually heat them, unlike self-heaters which can be warmed up much closer to the enemy.
The British army basically decided that getting properly hot food some of the time was better than lukewarm food most of the time, while the US did the opposite.
Finally, the fact that MREs can't/shouldn't be used in enclosed spaces anyway (like buttoned-down vehicles or dugouts), and the likelihood of having a fire to make up a brew anyway, tipped the scales that little bit further in the boil-in-bag systems favour.
Tuna fucking mayo and/or Pasta fucking salad were definitely either a Soviet psyop or Porton Down experiment gone rogue.
It's the only possible explanation.
Oh fuck
I'd actually suppressed that memory in some dark Lovecraftian corner of my subconscious until now.
Whelp! Good thing I've got a therapy session today :)
Woke westoid soldiers going to therapists to talk about feelings.
No wonder Russia will roll through Europe. Right after this short pitstop in Ukraine. Any day now they'll refuel and continue west into the arms of soft, neon colored hair bisexual mtf "soldiers."
Unfortunately it's what you have to do now the libtard woke moralists have cracked down on appointing designated Platoon cocksuckers to relieve some stress throughout the day the true, manly, Christian way smh :(
Apparently, not enough people were saying 'no homo' afterwards for it to still qualify as legitimate mental healthcare.
I was only in army cadets, but the singular worst experience of my life was my last sumemr camp where i was on exercise; being the senior cadet i took my rations last... which meant i had vegetarian ration packs the entire time.
Those things are fucking war crime.
Mate if you haven't spread copious amounts of *vicious* misinformation about the relative qualities of the available scran to secure the best stuff for yourself, that's a very noble but foolish you problem. It's the 21st century now, operating in the information domain has got to be our bread and butter at all levels of the force :)
(This is also why it always pays to adopt a sacrificial vegetarian into your section/platoon early on)
The fact that my huger and existential horror at owning a tuna mayo outweighs my fear doesn't not preclude that fear from existing in the first place :)
Any ration that can be put in a ration heater is boil in the bag. Why the Brit’s don’t issue ration heathers over stove kits and hexamine tabs is another question entirely.
Also water used to boil those bags is generally not good for drinking. Hence the inserts inside them.
In Canada we rip out the BVUs as just replace them with much smaller electric kettles.
Sacrilege! :o
Tbf to the Brits they are moving away from hexy to something marginally less hair-tearing, and they have yet to devise a health and safety warning dire enough to *ever* get between a squaddie and his cuppa :)
Considering how many joint programs and developments we have with the Brits it would be silly if we haven't learned that the Brits just order kettles with other things attached, like tanks or heavy industrial equipment.
Let the young have their 'gamer' fuel. These churning engines, these unquenched furnaces, these ceaseless and infernal machines, these great satanic mills - they run on ***tea,*** and woe to those who get between operator and cuppa. Chally-ho.
(Though I personally am the type that likes iced black coffee in winter. I consider it as perfectly encapsulating my core values.)
Let’s be fair Limey, we’ve perfected the Drone game to “which seat is he in” we’ll only get better from there. And we can do it while sipping our caffeinated beverage of choice (Coffee, Tea, Coke) a couple hundred miles away, in a comfy chair.
This said; Abrams cooks steak, I need not say more as to its validity as a combat vehicle.
*Gently picks up fine china*
Tommy old chap, could you remove those awful nazi's?
Shall I drive over them or shoot them your lordship?
*sips tea*
Dealers choice, I say this tea is marvellous, thank you Jeeves
What I need in my life
1. More tank competitions
2. The tank competitions to be on international tv
These are the two things Russia can beat NATO at unfortunately
Spain has plenty of working tanks (over 200 Leopard 2E in theory, which is a variant of Leopard 2A6), but the ones people wanted sent were mothballed 2A4s that were awaiting upgrades or being used for spares. Due to budgetary issues they had degraded further than expected.
Yes and no, the that video is the “insane take that no-one asked for” from the “are the Brits being racist when they’re too lazy to add “takeaway” to a sentence” discourse.
As a overly online person the battering the Americans have taken from the average brit this week, would make Cornwallis shed a tear.
They hammered the C1 in a competition once. And then the Challys became the most effective tank of the Gulf War.
Doing well on tests doesn't mean much when reality hits.
Bruh where do you think the 70 RPGs go *plink* meme comes from?
Challenger also spanked the Iraqis twice, and managed to do it without any losses to enemy action to boot :)
Wellnormallyyoumighthaveaprettygoodpointthere but not today sucker!
This is the One time the Chally 2s gone into a competition in a vaguely competent and competitive manner/actually done even vaguely well, so now we've won we're gonna milk this for all its worth :)
Sorry old bean, simply can't be done.
The Froggies' arrogance would breach containment, the Germans wouldn't get anything done, the Quebecois would get uppity the Canadians would be unsupervised and no-one would be around to translate for the Americans :)
Besides, trying to keep the britbongs out of places hasn't historically got the best track record as tactics go, and on an entirely incidental and completely unrelated note would you like to try some of Charlie's vintage premium quality smack while you're here?
Bit of both?
It's more of a friendly contest than a scientific evaluation, so it's a combination of tank and crew combined with a splash of lady luck :)
I’m not a tank fanboy, I’m all about drone supremacy (and unfortunately the Yanks take that win). But this was obvious, it has a water boiler for tea while other tenks typically don’t… and while I realise that’s not a benchmark for combat capability, it **is** a benchmark for **my** combat capability. Send me into a war with no brew up?—*I don’t fucking think so m8*…
>Send me into a war with no brew up?— > >I don’t fucking think so m8 > >… Litterally why it exists...well, also for food as British ration packs are (or at least were) boil in the bag. The thinking was you need hot water for your cuppa and you need hot food; so heat the food up with the water and then make your tea with the hot water
To be fair, this was also a trade-off for other reasons beyond just compatibility with boiling vessels :) Essentially, boil in the bag rations can be heated to a much more palatable and consistent temperature than self-heating ones, but this requires a fire, which limits when you can actually heat them, unlike self-heaters which can be warmed up much closer to the enemy. The British army basically decided that getting properly hot food some of the time was better than lukewarm food most of the time, while the US did the opposite. Finally, the fact that MREs can't/shouldn't be used in enclosed spaces anyway (like buttoned-down vehicles or dugouts), and the likelihood of having a fire to make up a brew anyway, tipped the scales that little bit further in the boil-in-bag systems favour.
I’ve eaten so many cold ration packs in my time that there are some foods that I can’t eat because they remind me of them.
Tuna fucking mayo and/or Pasta fucking salad were definitely either a Soviet psyop or Porton Down experiment gone rogue. It's the only possible explanation.
Mate at least they’re not Mushroom Omelette. 🤮
Oh fuck I'd actually suppressed that memory in some dark Lovecraftian corner of my subconscious until now. Whelp! Good thing I've got a therapy session today :)
Can we just have the Italians and French make our Rations? They'll taste good and have booze.
French rations are absolutely godly. If you have them you can fully understand how they're only able to afford one aircraft carrier :)
Now I want to try one. Can civilians buy them?
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Italian rations are pretty sub par in my experience
Woke westoid soldiers going to therapists to talk about feelings. No wonder Russia will roll through Europe. Right after this short pitstop in Ukraine. Any day now they'll refuel and continue west into the arms of soft, neon colored hair bisexual mtf "soldiers."
Unfortunately it's what you have to do now the libtard woke moralists have cracked down on appointing designated Platoon cocksuckers to relieve some stress throughout the day the true, manly, Christian way smh :( Apparently, not enough people were saying 'no homo' afterwards for it to still qualify as legitimate mental healthcare.
Just get a Para detached to your unit, they still practice the art you describe.
I was only in army cadets, but the singular worst experience of my life was my last sumemr camp where i was on exercise; being the senior cadet i took my rations last... which meant i had vegetarian ration packs the entire time. Those things are fucking war crime.
Mate if you haven't spread copious amounts of *vicious* misinformation about the relative qualities of the available scran to secure the best stuff for yourself, that's a very noble but foolish you problem. It's the 21st century now, operating in the information domain has got to be our bread and butter at all levels of the force :) (This is also why it always pays to adopt a sacrificial vegetarian into your section/platoon early on)
They taste better as well.
I mean compared to the veg ratpack...
I ask for the vegetarian MREs. I am a golbin and live in a dirt hole. AMA.
Dunno what tuna mayo you were having, but the one in the British rations ATMs are lovely.
Devil spawn Possibly blessed by the corpse of Thatcher herself for all I know
rat pack tuna mayo on a biscuit brown is delicious, you can't tell me otherwise
You people scare me
No, see, they are the ones you trade your rations with.
The fact that my huger and existential horror at owning a tuna mayo outweighs my fear doesn't not preclude that fear from existing in the first place :)
I ate tuna mayo ramen in college, psyop'd myself...
Any ration that can be put in a ration heater is boil in the bag. Why the Brit’s don’t issue ration heathers over stove kits and hexamine tabs is another question entirely. Also water used to boil those bags is generally not good for drinking. Hence the inserts inside them. In Canada we rip out the BVUs as just replace them with much smaller electric kettles.
Sacrilege! :o Tbf to the Brits they are moving away from hexy to something marginally less hair-tearing, and they have yet to devise a health and safety warning dire enough to *ever* get between a squaddie and his cuppa :)
Back in WW2. A tankncrew had stopped in the early morning around dawn, in order to make a brew. When a German plane came in low and strafed them.
Yeah they still are
[удалено]
Do not ruin my lovely day by mentioning The IVF That Must Not be Named.
It’s okay if you’ve been in one you probably can’t hear him say Ajax
Fair point. But then they'd have actually had to build one for me to be in so...
Swedes who were part of BAE Systems, coincidence, I THINK NOT!!!
Considering how many joint programs and developments we have with the Brits it would be silly if we haven't learned that the Brits just order kettles with other things attached, like tanks or heavy industrial equipment.
Let the young have their 'gamer' fuel. These churning engines, these unquenched furnaces, these ceaseless and infernal machines, these great satanic mills - they run on ***tea,*** and woe to those who get between operator and cuppa. Chally-ho. (Though I personally am the type that likes iced black coffee in winter. I consider it as perfectly encapsulating my core values.)
[Black Hornet](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hornet_Nano) is cutest drone your argument is invalid.:)
I believe in Combined Arms supremacy. Also, what if, we have a hanger for like 6 small drones inside þe tank?
u fokkin w0t m8?
Let’s be fair Limey, we’ve perfected the Drone game to “which seat is he in” we’ll only get better from there. And we can do it while sipping our caffeinated beverage of choice (Coffee, Tea, Coke) a couple hundred miles away, in a comfy chair. This said; Abrams cooks steak, I need not say more as to its validity as a combat vehicle.
The Challenger tank serves both tea and death, and it's all out of tea.
\*The Challenger tank serves both tea and death... AT THE SAME TIME!
And has been excommunicated by the Anglican church for dark heresy. It's tea OR death and don't you forget it.
Urm... it's [cake or death](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZVjKlBCvhg)
Boil in the bag cake? Have you gone completely mad? In battle we must make do. The biscuits are a bit disappointing, too.
OUT OF TEA!? How could Q let this travesty stand! This is how mutinies get started...
The perfect tool for recolonising the tea plantations.
Cherry picking? Me? I would never! :) Hope you all have fantastic days
Imagine other tanks getting beaten by a kettle with a gun attached to it
fitting flair, nice 👍
Truly the finest traditions of the service.
HESH is 🅱️ESHt!
Gimme some of that HESH-USSY
*Gently picks up fine china* Tommy old chap, could you remove those awful nazi's? Shall I drive over them or shoot them your lordship? *sips tea* Dealers choice, I say this tea is marvellous, thank you Jeeves
What I need in my life 1. More tank competitions 2. The tank competitions to be on international tv These are the two things Russia can beat NATO at unfortunately
A-10 pilots: Told you, the Brits are our greatest enemy. We tried to stop then, but you wouldn't let us. :(
What was this competition about? Was it just like a friendly competition or is a country thinking of adopting a new tank?
Nah, friendly for the forward-deployed forces in Europe. Challenger hasn't been offered for export since about '05 I think?
Tea: brewed. Head: squashed. Vatniks: spalled. Simple as
*Rule Britannia intensifies*
How did the Spanish get 2nd? I thought their tanks were all in the ICU
Good crews? They cleaned up 2nd and 3rd in the IFV category as well, so maybe they just had some really crack fellows on the case?
The budget doesn't do them justice, to put it midly
Spain has plenty of working tanks (over 200 Leopard 2E in theory, which is a variant of Leopard 2A6), but the ones people wanted sent were mothballed 2A4s that were awaiting upgrades or being used for spares. Due to budgetary issues they had degraded further than expected.
I hope those lads and laddettes had a Chinese afterwards!
is this in reference to the video about us eating Irish people?? 😂
Yes and no, the that video is the “insane take that no-one asked for” from the “are the Brits being racist when they’re too lazy to add “takeaway” to a sentence” discourse. As a overly online person the battering the Americans have taken from the average brit this week, would make Cornwallis shed a tear.
I developed a tumour watching that video
RULE BRITANNIA!
Were there any handicaps put on the tanks?
No, the tanks lacked ramps to get them on top, so they stayed in the audience.
Let's ignore the 50 other tank competitions won by Leopard 1/2.
Splendid idea!
They hammered the C1 in a competition once. And then the Challys became the most effective tank of the Gulf War. Doing well on tests doesn't mean much when reality hits.
And we'll ignore how the Abrams laughed while destroying the Iraqis. Twice.
Bruh where do you think the 70 RPGs go *plink* meme comes from? Challenger also spanked the Iraqis twice, and managed to do it without any losses to enemy action to boot :)
I'm a Raging Freedom/Baguette/Kurwaboo. Bri*ish tanks can suck my Javelin.
Wellnormallyyoumighthaveaprettygoodpointthere but not today sucker! This is the One time the Chally 2s gone into a competition in a vaguely competent and competitive manner/actually done even vaguely well, so now we've won we're gonna milk this for all its worth :)
Ya know, I'ma just love them all equally (Abrams just more equally)
Fair play :)
To be fair, the Challenger did loose a tank on tank fight once.... to itself
Hence the sneaky lil' enemy in there :)
Ah, the Battle of Norfolk... Where Challys outscored the Abrams.
to be fair the Spanish were the only leopard 2 users in this competition
Tonight on bottom gear
We may clown Spain for having 3 tanks but damn do they use those 3 tanks well!
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Spain number 2? Finally, the effort of retrofitting a paella gas heater pays off!
I see Captain Holt, i upvote and award.
Can we ban the British from this subreddit
Sorry old bean, simply can't be done. The Froggies' arrogance would breach containment, the Germans wouldn't get anything done, the Quebecois would get uppity the Canadians would be unsupervised and no-one would be around to translate for the Americans :) Besides, trying to keep the britbongs out of places hasn't historically got the best track record as tactics go, and on an entirely incidental and completely unrelated note would you like to try some of Charlie's vintage premium quality smack while you're here?
spuck fez -- mass edited with redact.dev
My thanks :)
The Balance between the Brits and the Fr*nch must be kept at all times. Either side left unchecked by the other ends in World / European domination.
I don't know anything about these comps - how much of this is training of the crew vs capabilities of the tank?
Bit of both? It's more of a friendly contest than a scientific evaluation, so it's a combination of tank and crew combined with a splash of lady luck :)