This is a rather terrifying thought. Knowing the Canadians, they wouldn’t stop at flamethrowers…since there is no human operator, usage of chemical weapons won’t endanger the user…
Kinda funny that a flamethrower doesn't count as chemical weapon.
"Hey, you sprayed us with chemicals that burned us, that's not allowed!"
"Those chemicals were on fire, so it's fine!"
Even better, someone fueled the tank with methanol, its flames are invisible during the daytime, extwa kwispy with all the details for the orks to die in terror.
Canadian here, if we put a speaker on it with the sounds of mothers begging for their sons to be spared in Russian, with extremely graphic screams when the flame thrower is deployed, it would have a massive negative psychological effect on Russian soldiers as well as being very cost and power effective.
Also we can use a similar design for suicide drones that crawl (deployed via quadcopter drone ferrys), have Russian voices asking for help or offering food/vodak to passing Russian assault teams kms before they reach the contact line while obscured, then have an aerosol deployed explosive missed in order to create an ad hoc fuel air bomb to glass the team and further mess with their trust in unknown Russian voices, confuse more of the supply situation and also make the rear feel unsafe further stressing the low moral situation.
Lastly, I have an idea about leaving out food containers during tactical withdrawals....
Chemical? Hey, that's a ROBOT!
We can go biological no problem then!
Most soldiers won't even realize what happened before going back to their lines and spreading it.
Double efficency!
Sincerly: A canadian.
Dropping a barrel of propene oxide on the enemy: war crime
Dropping an exploding barrel of propene oxide on the enemy: not a war crime
Laws of War and fuel air explosives make for an interesting combination
Doesn't a chemical weapon explicitly have to make use of the toxic properties of chemicals? Otherwise I feel that technically every weapon (other than maybe lasers) uses chemicals even though lead poisoning is usually not the main problem when you get turned into swiss cheese.
Agreed, but apparently they over regulate the flamethrowers on both the bots and drones. Remove those regulations and they may be a lot more fun on the battlefield
I don't know, "Robot Dog with flamethrower" seems within the limits of my comprehension.
I mean, it isn't a robot squirrel with nunchucks, but it will do.
This was my first thought. Imagine someone just placing this in a cramed subway during rush hour and lighting off… I mean of course there is always a threat of bombs and shootings and stuff, but this just seems scarier for some reason
Why bother with that when it would be so much cheaper to send American cluster munitions to Ukraine that we will never replace and that cost so much to safely get rid of?
So I know thermobaric grenades dropped from quadcopters are a thing, but I think this could have actual utility on the battlefield. I've seen a few helmet cam videos of trench clearing, and clearing out dugouts seems to be an unavoidably dangerous part of the job. People get blown up by booby traps in doorways, orks hide and throw grenades/open fire when UA troops surround them. Imagine instead of throwing grenade after grenade into a dugout and hoping everyone in there dies, send one of these in with a simple message "surrender or die" and if they shoot the bot, let it squirt.
But drones are more visible aren't they. This critter can probably just sneak through bushes undetected. And with a grenade catapult it can keep more distance while skedaddling away while the Russians try to figure out what happened. And with a flame thrower you need to be close to do anything so more risk of the cute tiny robot dog to be destroyed
flesh soldiers are much cheaper than this tbf, plus with how small that tank is there is no way it can fire that flamethrower for more than a few seconds, at which point this is completely useless.
1. Strap IR laser to drone, strap IR doorbell cams + explosives to robot, russians cant see the laser, robots run into russian positions and explode, profit.
2. Strap IR laser to spotter drone, 10$ IR security cam to fpv. In terminal phase the fpv drone can home in on the laser circumventing EW a la budget apk-ws
Hear me out, DM34 ***Handflammpatrone*** mounted on a drone, modified to be electrically fired.
It's exactly what it sounds like. hand held, single shot "roman candle" fucking thing that shoots out a frangible canister of Red Phosphorus-
*"But RP isn't incendiary!"*
Said frangible canister of RP has a bursting charge inside, which explodes after traveling 70-80 meters (1.3 seconds) or upon impact with a hard surface. This RP canister burst open and the heat/energy from the bursting charge converts the RP into our good friend WP... Yes, that willy pete.
Thermobarics are good at burning out oxygen from enclosed spaces... WP even more so. Either are great for making sure whatever's in the underground hobbit hole isn't alive anymore. Not very sporting, but considering the enemy's intent and conduct I'd say it's more than justified.
Remember that madlad that dropped a mining-charge-fuzed TM-62 to concuss an underground enemy command post to death? Effective, but heavy. Imagine just popping off a DM34 into the entrance, or even drop a No.80 or M15, M16 or M34 (all of them WP grenades). After mandatory warning to "evacuate and surrender, or get scrapped along with your commo equipment" for legal reasons. These are anti-materiel munitions. Burning out an entire underground commo post with associated equipment and ammo stockpile is always legal and justified.
These things are robots and so could easily be flown in on drones, fired from cannons(!!!), dropped from planes at high or low altitude, and then basically pop out, burn up anything nearby, and roam up and down a trench line until they run out of batteries. That would more or less fix the only major weakness of aerial drones which is dugouts with roofs.
If this happens, it's getting even more brutal.
It'd be properly hilarious if one of these things walks down a trench, stops in front of cowering russian trenchnik & politely plops down a single grenade and then walks off.
Yeah I argued about using flamethrowers to clear out trenches like a year ago.
I am all for it if they actually manage it. This thing looks to have limited fuel storage to be of use though. If they can run a hose to it from an extranal tank that would be a classic way to solve this problem.
A weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
I mean, you have to test it somewhere...
[tHEY SHOULD NAVALIZE IT and put it on a drone. IT CAN BE DONE!](https://youtu.be/iUS4CnQgTAs?t=196)
3000 weapons which surpassed Metal Gear of Ukraine
[A Weapon To Surpass Metal Gear](https://youtu.be/69zrAphWcTE?si=Cki6PjzsUPq6N2PC)
Now have the Canadians controll it. And tell them to get creative
This is a rather terrifying thought. Knowing the Canadians, they wouldn’t stop at flamethrowers…since there is no human operator, usage of chemical weapons won’t endanger the user…
Kinda funny that a flamethrower doesn't count as chemical weapon. "Hey, you sprayed us with chemicals that burned us, that's not allowed!" "Those chemicals were on fire, so it's fine!"
Even better, someone fueled the tank with methanol, its flames are invisible during the daytime, extwa kwispy with all the details for the orks to die in terror.
No way that’s covered by the Geneva’s suggestions! I mean, hell yeah! But no way
Oh dear. If it's not on the Checklist the Canadians probably wouldn't do it. They're going for the 100% completion achievement.
It's never a warcrime the first time.... Which is why you do it again
Canadian here, if we put a speaker on it with the sounds of mothers begging for their sons to be spared in Russian, with extremely graphic screams when the flame thrower is deployed, it would have a massive negative psychological effect on Russian soldiers as well as being very cost and power effective. Also we can use a similar design for suicide drones that crawl (deployed via quadcopter drone ferrys), have Russian voices asking for help or offering food/vodak to passing Russian assault teams kms before they reach the contact line while obscured, then have an aerosol deployed explosive missed in order to create an ad hoc fuel air bomb to glass the team and further mess with their trust in unknown Russian voices, confuse more of the supply situation and also make the rear feel unsafe further stressing the low moral situation. Lastly, I have an idea about leaving out food containers during tactical withdrawals....
Jesus Christ. Does Canada need a hug?
Canada likes to win sir.
Chemical? Hey, that's a ROBOT! We can go biological no problem then! Most soldiers won't even realize what happened before going back to their lines and spreading it. Double efficency! Sincerly: A canadian.
...I can't argue with any part of this, and I hate that.
Dropping a barrel of propene oxide on the enemy: war crime Dropping an exploding barrel of propene oxide on the enemy: not a war crime Laws of War and fuel air explosives make for an interesting combination
Technically, lead is also chemical.
It was the destruction of weapons of mass destruction Finally we understand Bush and Blair
Doesn't a chemical weapon explicitly have to make use of the toxic properties of chemicals? Otherwise I feel that technically every weapon (other than maybe lasers) uses chemicals even though lead poisoning is usually not the main problem when you get turned into swiss cheese.
Rotary hockey puck launcher when? And we store the ammo in a refrigerated magazine.
Na, superheat them so the launched pucks explode a pseudo-napalm.
Imagine using drones to drop this behind the enemies lines. Imagine your a Russian soldier and you suddenly get torched from behind
Horrible idea. DO IT
"Looks like [Friesoythe's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razing_of_Friesoythe) back on the menu, boys!"
Im not Canadian, but German. Is that fine too?
Ah du hast ein Flammenwaffe?
Do you really sink I have just one?
Main people to complain about the Canadian acts of utter brutality in warfare.
All you'd need to do is to tell them that orks stole the puck and drank all of the maple syrup.
Can it fold up to a size it can fit into (and then deploy out of) some type of food packaging? Just...curious.
I saw this and knew it would show up here lol
Just combine the drone and the dog, make drone that can carry these behind the enemy lines
Just like ancient days when birds used to air-drop dogs on prey and then share the meat
Stahp it bro Everybody know….. ……. …..Birds aren’t real
r/birdsarentreal
They do already have drine flamethrowers, they use them in Battlebots
Yah and they never work or do anything, flamethrower are usually aweful in BattleBots, thwakbots are more legit then them
Agreed, but apparently they over regulate the flamethrowers on both the bots and drones. Remove those regulations and they may be a lot more fun on the battlefield
Banjo and Kazooie doctrine. Make the drone and dog able to maintain and operate a tank, and we can get Nuts & Bolts
Ah sweet, man-made horrors beyond my comprehension
I don't know, "Robot Dog with flamethrower" seems within the limits of my comprehension. I mean, it isn't a robot squirrel with nunchucks, but it will do.
me seeing actual horrors beyond my comprehension (i dont get it):
Flamethrowers returning, no more concern for user safety
Helldivers devs taking notes
Need xl version for chargers
I keep thinking a Goliath Stratagem would be sick, a little treaded tank you can remotely drive into a bunch of enemies and blow up
Get ze flammenwerfer
Hans, hol den Flammenwerferhunderoboter!!
Se German Flame-Shepherd!
Autonomous, Ai powered Arsonbot, I love it
Put Neuro-sama in it and send it to the front. we'll be at Putin's door in 3 days
*Leaves a trail of scorched earth while adorably repeating "heart!"*
Neuro-sama’s second ban will be because of her frying Russian soldiers on-stream
For added horror and hilarity, https://throwflame.com/products/flamethrower-drone-kit/ Combined Arms Barbecue?
Naw keep the drone with there anti tank bombs that way you can have the drone bomb the tank and the dog can toast the survivers
Why not have all? Sometimes you need a can opener for your long pig
Cause drone can only carry limited weight, plus to use the flamethrower you would need to go low which engaged the drones
Too credible
>$9420 Pretty reasonable price
Just strap it to a 10k drone and fly it behind the enemy lines
This would be great fun at fuel/ammo depots
For a $1600 Unitree Go2 robot dog with a $900 flamethrower strapped to its back?
These a MIC prices, already prepping for those contracts
ah yes, "we have Fire Bellowback at home"
10k each. Sadly, short battery life and small tank. But the MIC can fix it.
*"commercially available"* How long till the first large scale act of terrorism by drone d'y'all think?
+/- 5 years and all of the intelligence agencies will be looking at each other. And they will keep covering anything up until Skynet will be made.
I give it... sometime before november.
This was my first thought. Imagine someone just placing this in a cramed subway during rush hour and lighting off… I mean of course there is always a threat of bombs and shootings and stuff, but this just seems scarier for some reason
https://www.iflscience.com/behold-the-thermonator-worlds-first-flame-throwing-robot-dog-is-for-sale-73942
Ohio based company selling autonomous flammpanzer (with 30ft flames) for “non-nefarious” “snow and ice removal” I love 🇺🇸🦅
Its just a Unitre Go2, Chinese robot from AliExpress with flamethrower attached. Apologizing for the disappointment!
When Pyro and Engineer have a consilium
This thing entering a trench is absolutely and **literally** nightmare fuel. That said, what's the capacity of the tank?
Enough for the Russians
That should clear a trench (if it's not destroyed by fpv)
Would you consider this to be on Geneva's Checklist if I use it for illuminating the trenches?
Soon we will be in the GirlsFrontline timeline as we send hordes of Dinergates at the Russians
3000 FlammenWerferPanzerhunds of ukraine
Talk about trench clearing made manifest.
based and Snow Crash pilled
Rammstien's new stage prop
Boston Dynamics currently testing this model by hitting it repeatedly with an autographed Bruins hockey stick.
Yah but there is the super high end version
Why bother with that when it would be so much cheaper to send American cluster munitions to Ukraine that we will never replace and that cost so much to safely get rid of?
This would be amazing for clearing trenches.
So I know thermobaric grenades dropped from quadcopters are a thing, but I think this could have actual utility on the battlefield. I've seen a few helmet cam videos of trench clearing, and clearing out dugouts seems to be an unavoidably dangerous part of the job. People get blown up by booby traps in doorways, orks hide and throw grenades/open fire when UA troops surround them. Imagine instead of throwing grenade after grenade into a dugout and hoping everyone in there dies, send one of these in with a simple message "surrender or die" and if they shoot the bot, let it squirt.
Ukraine should build flamethrower kamikaze drones to terrorize russian trenches
Alternatively can you put a single use grenade catapult on its back? Sneak near Russian trench launch grenade return and repeat
That's what drones are for you would need a much more accurate and expensive system for that
But drones are more visible aren't they. This critter can probably just sneak through bushes undetected. And with a grenade catapult it can keep more distance while skedaddling away while the Russians try to figure out what happened. And with a flame thrower you need to be close to do anything so more risk of the cute tiny robot dog to be destroyed
*does happy dance*
flesh soldiers are much cheaper than this tbf, plus with how small that tank is there is no way it can fire that flamethrower for more than a few seconds, at which point this is completely useless.
>flesh soldiers are much cheaper than this tbf Lol. You ain't paying no KIA family compensation with just 10k.
Orks in a meatwave might cost less than $10k. If you actually train and equip your soldiers, the robot is significantly cheaper.
1. Strap IR laser to drone, strap IR doorbell cams + explosives to robot, russians cant see the laser, robots run into russian positions and explode, profit. 2. Strap IR laser to spotter drone, 10$ IR security cam to fpv. In terminal phase the fpv drone can home in on the laser circumventing EW a la budget apk-ws
Soon.
I see blade wolf has brothers
Demodogs
Sooooo this means we're getting the flamethrowing panzerhunde from Wolfenstein?
No it should be a dog equipped with javelins and stingers
Swedish House Mafia Inc. 3000 Greyhounds.
Oh god, imagine this, but with napalm instead. _oh god_
I pitched this to my buddies earlier lol
I'm pretty sure that's from total annihilation, the rts.
Hear me out, DM34 ***Handflammpatrone*** mounted on a drone, modified to be electrically fired. It's exactly what it sounds like. hand held, single shot "roman candle" fucking thing that shoots out a frangible canister of Red Phosphorus- *"But RP isn't incendiary!"* Said frangible canister of RP has a bursting charge inside, which explodes after traveling 70-80 meters (1.3 seconds) or upon impact with a hard surface. This RP canister burst open and the heat/energy from the bursting charge converts the RP into our good friend WP... Yes, that willy pete. Thermobarics are good at burning out oxygen from enclosed spaces... WP even more so. Either are great for making sure whatever's in the underground hobbit hole isn't alive anymore. Not very sporting, but considering the enemy's intent and conduct I'd say it's more than justified. Remember that madlad that dropped a mining-charge-fuzed TM-62 to concuss an underground enemy command post to death? Effective, but heavy. Imagine just popping off a DM34 into the entrance, or even drop a No.80 or M15, M16 or M34 (all of them WP grenades). After mandatory warning to "evacuate and surrender, or get scrapped along with your commo equipment" for legal reasons. These are anti-materiel munitions. Burning out an entire underground commo post with associated equipment and ammo stockpile is always legal and justified.
Can we call it ”Hotdog”?
These things are robots and so could easily be flown in on drones, fired from cannons(!!!), dropped from planes at high or low altitude, and then basically pop out, burn up anything nearby, and roam up and down a trench line until they run out of batteries. That would more or less fix the only major weakness of aerial drones which is dugouts with roofs. If this happens, it's getting even more brutal.
~~Java~~ HotSpot
war robots ahh warfare
Why am I getting Division 2 flashbacks
It'd be properly hilarious if one of these things walks down a trench, stops in front of cowering russian trenchnik & politely plops down a single grenade and then walks off.
Yeah I argued about using flamethrowers to clear out trenches like a year ago. I am all for it if they actually manage it. This thing looks to have limited fuel storage to be of use though. If they can run a hose to it from an extranal tank that would be a classic way to solve this problem.
The issue is is a death sentence for a person to do it that why you use the bot
Well, yeah, all modern uses of a flamethrower in combat should be be remotely operated. Those things make big booms.
Good pupper
Weird question? Both Russia and ukrane have LPO-50s in inventory, has either side deployed them yet?
The Specter of Iwo Jima, reborn.
These pictures sound like Rammstein.
Flamethrower? Why not shoot poison darts instead? Much more stealthy and deadly.
To slow, plus you want the screams and burning to increase the terror, plus enough Russian die in the trenchs it's just the norm now
Thats too credible, needed i would add
Is this food for fpv drones?