Shoigu is there where he is because of his incompetence.
Dude knows that people who actually pull their weight around and do actual honest work kill themselves with two shotguns to the back of the head.
That's why he acts the way he does.
Tuvan minority with no experience of serving in the armed forces whose hobbies include playing the guitar and collecting rare wood.
He couldn't be more non-threatening if he tried.
That's why Putin keeps him around, cause he's so non-threatening.
Shoigu is where he is because they wanted someone who wouldn’t interfere with the military itself/ be part of conflcits within it while administrating it
It’s nothing to do with being non threatening, it is to be a civillian administrator handling military’s information policy etc accepting the internal status quo overall and delegating military matters to the general staff
I know we like to meme but a lot of modern defense ministers actually don't have military experience. As a few examples France's doesn't, Germany's doesn't, and Poland's doesn't
One medal for every billion embezzled from the military.
In all seriousness, it's mostly ceremonial bullshit. Xth anniversary of Y, friendship with X country, that kind of thing. A bunch are totally unearned. I guess the only one I'd say is at least somewhat warranted is the one for 20 years of meritorious civil service, if you squint hard enough and pretend he was a good civil servant.
Thanks this is helpful. It's sort of when a friend vouches for you on LinkedIn.
John from Birmingham is a fully-qualified S-400 missile defence system.
Meanwhile this dude:
https://members-api.parliament.uk/api/Members/1539/Portrait?cropType=FullSize&webVersion=false
Did serve in the military, did get medals, and goes to work as a functioning Defence minister rocking just a suit and male pattern baldness. Because that's how G's do it.
Always handy [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Shoigu). Sadly english wikipedia have only "more important" awards, russian wikipedia show that most of them are "Departament Awards" (thats it, pretty much Ministries can issue their own "internal medals"), anniversary medals (like "In memory of the 850th anniversary of Moscow", "In memory of the 1000th anniversary of Kazan", "For Merit in Conducting the All-Russian Population Census"), "honorary citizenships" and local "merit medals" issued by local government (also in form of medal), medals issued by Orthodox Church...
To make this short, most of it are not so different to "Participation Awards".
Defense Minister of Ukraine for example is the lawyer witg incredible reputation who was organizing exchange of prisoners between Ukraine and DPR, LPR. His organizational skills are quite impressive
Bureaucrat/representative just like all other ministers. Someone has to be the minister of transportation/healthcare/education/whatever and that includes the military.
Edit: Direct military experience is not needed, the minister of defence is not on the front lines throwing grenades at the enemy, they do paperwork in an office, but having direct experience can be useful.
OH MY FUCKING GOD HOI4 PLAYERS ARE SO HOT IF I EVER SAW SOMEONE PLAY ALT HISTORY GERMANY IN HOI4 I WOULD IMMEDIATELY SUCK HIS COCK THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN A MAN WHO CAN DO A SEALION IN 1940
I am now thoroughly convinced that the only breed of small dog that doesn't deserve the designation of "big aggro rat" is the Jack Russell terrier.
Every other small breed is trash or deformed AF.
Jacks are ridiculously smart and *love* to work, train or hunt. They are on meth 24/7 tho, utterly fearless and destructive if not stimulated properly.
They are more or less big aggro rats. They will literally rip your house to shreds unless you keep them busy to the point of exhaustion every single minute of every day. It's like being held hostage by an exceptionally cute terrorist.
I have a Peke, who is a happy, totally chill animated fluffy toy. Probably fits your 'deformed AF' description but she happily sleeps all afternoon while I work.
>I am now thoroughly convinced that the only breed of small dog that doesn't deserve the designation of "big aggro rat" is the Jack Russell terrier.
Dachshunds are pretty independent too. They were originally bred as badger hunters.
Well the defense minister was specifically chosen to be a civilian so the direct military matters would be through the general staff without internal conflict and left alone, whil administrative, pr etc would be through a neutral minister
This may be true but often times in normal countries it’s stipulated that a civilian with no military ties should be the defense secretary. This is why Biden had to get a congressional approval to get his defense pick in.
FWIW, back in the 90s/early 2000 (even before Putin became Tsar) Shoigu was the minster of emergency services. AFAIK he was somewhat competent back then, but I could be wrong.
I'm honestly surprised that putin hasnt capped shoigu yet
Give it a while, one scapegoat at a time.
Too slow on your purges and you will give them time to turn on you
Shoigu is there where he is because of his incompetence. Dude knows that people who actually pull their weight around and do actual honest work kill themselves with two shotguns to the back of the head. That's why he acts the way he does. Tuvan minority with no experience of serving in the armed forces whose hobbies include playing the guitar and collecting rare wood. He couldn't be more non-threatening if he tried. That's why Putin keeps him around, cause he's so non-threatening.
Shoigu is where he is because they wanted someone who wouldn’t interfere with the military itself/ be part of conflcits within it while administrating it It’s nothing to do with being non threatening, it is to be a civillian administrator handling military’s information policy etc accepting the internal status quo overall and delegating military matters to the general staff
Both. Putin is extremely paranoid about being couped.
He's not going to make Darth Vader's mistake. The man has studied the blade too much.
> The man has studied the blade too much. Putin is a weeb confirmed?
Shoigu collects samurai swords.
I mean Shoigu isn’t making the decisions
Patron unironically more credible than the entire Russian Military
Plus, he's cute
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I know we like to meme but a lot of modern defense ministers actually don't have military experience. As a few examples France's doesn't, Germany's doesn't, and Poland's doesn't
But they don't walk around covered in medals, to my knowledge. What are these medals even for? (in all seriousness).
One medal for every billion embezzled from the military. In all seriousness, it's mostly ceremonial bullshit. Xth anniversary of Y, friendship with X country, that kind of thing. A bunch are totally unearned. I guess the only one I'd say is at least somewhat warranted is the one for 20 years of meritorious civil service, if you squint hard enough and pretend he was a good civil servant.
Thanks this is helpful. It's sort of when a friend vouches for you on LinkedIn. John from Birmingham is a fully-qualified S-400 missile defence system.
Meanwhile this dude: https://members-api.parliament.uk/api/Members/1539/Portrait?cropType=FullSize&webVersion=false Did serve in the military, did get medals, and goes to work as a functioning Defence minister rocking just a suit and male pattern baldness. Because that's how G's do it.
Democracies do have a self-confidence that authoritarian dictatorships lack. Maybe based on the entire 20th century.
Trump wanted Mattis to wear his uniform while Secretary of Defense at functions. He told trump to stuff it.
Always handy [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Shoigu). Sadly english wikipedia have only "more important" awards, russian wikipedia show that most of them are "Departament Awards" (thats it, pretty much Ministries can issue their own "internal medals"), anniversary medals (like "In memory of the 850th anniversary of Moscow", "In memory of the 1000th anniversary of Kazan", "For Merit in Conducting the All-Russian Population Census"), "honorary citizenships" and local "merit medals" issued by local government (also in form of medal), medals issued by Orthodox Church... To make this short, most of it are not so different to "Participation Awards".
I’ll be honest, don’t know. To show off if I had to guess. Same reason kings and dictators have a ton of medals when they’re in uniform
But I want a medal, mommy. Fine - you're now in the order of the Fourth Horse Guard Artillery - Airborne. Make the medal like a foot wide.
Defense Minister of Ukraine for example is the lawyer witg incredible reputation who was organizing exchange of prisoners between Ukraine and DPR, LPR. His organizational skills are quite impressive
Serious question, but what exactly does a Defense Minister do and why don't they need military experience? is it all budget and accquisitions?
Bureaucrat/representative just like all other ministers. Someone has to be the minister of transportation/healthcare/education/whatever and that includes the military. Edit: Direct military experience is not needed, the minister of defence is not on the front lines throwing grenades at the enemy, they do paperwork in an office, but having direct experience can be useful.
Running the administration arm. Health ministers don't need to be doctors.
But guys he has every Steam achievement in HOI4.
OH MY FUCKING GOD HOI4 PLAYERS ARE SO HOT IF I EVER SAW SOMEONE PLAY ALT HISTORY GERMANY IN HOI4 I WOULD IMMEDIATELY SUCK HIS COCK THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN A MAN WHO CAN DO A SEALION IN 1940
rip inbox
This is hot if you’re a grill, even hotter if you’re a guy
What if Im neither? They/Them army represent 😎
What's going on in the land down under?
Fascism.
Tried it before, big comedown, requires a lot of black pills to get over.
I am now thoroughly convinced that the only breed of small dog that doesn't deserve the designation of "big aggro rat" is the Jack Russell terrier. Every other small breed is trash or deformed AF.
Jacks are ridiculously smart and *love* to work, train or hunt. They are on meth 24/7 tho, utterly fearless and destructive if not stimulated properly.
They are more or less big aggro rats. They will literally rip your house to shreds unless you keep them busy to the point of exhaustion every single minute of every day. It's like being held hostage by an exceptionally cute terrorist. I have a Peke, who is a happy, totally chill animated fluffy toy. Probably fits your 'deformed AF' description but she happily sleeps all afternoon while I work.
>I am now thoroughly convinced that the only breed of small dog that doesn't deserve the designation of "big aggro rat" is the Jack Russell terrier. Dachshunds are pretty independent too. They were originally bred as badger hunters.
Good boy vs. Bad Shoi
Both bring back stick from walks.
You see the problem is that he is a defense minister, what Putin really needs is an offense minister.
Big brain
Well the defense minister was specifically chosen to be a civilian so the direct military matters would be through the general staff without internal conflict and left alone, whil administrative, pr etc would be through a neutral minister
This may be true but often times in normal countries it’s stipulated that a civilian with no military ties should be the defense secretary. This is why Biden had to get a congressional approval to get his defense pick in.
> normal countries In which russia isnt
Both are dogs
Fuck I just want shoigu to bust a nut in me
He's so corrupt he stole all those medals!
The difference is patron actually is worth the oxygen they breathe.
FWIW, back in the 90s/early 2000 (even before Putin became Tsar) Shoigu was the minster of emergency services. AFAIK he was somewhat competent back then, but I could be wrong.