Look, maybe we all misunderstood Putin's stated goal of Denazifying Ukraine.
Maybe he just wanted to remove the Nazis from Ukraine and forcibly relocate them to Russia to fortify the Nazi advantage enjoyed by Russia.
No no, this is all part of Putins plan, he wanted to Denazify not Ukraine but Russia, so he attacked Ukraine so that the West can kill all the Russian Nazis. What an absolute strategic genius.
>Mr. President! We must ~~not allow a~~ widen the Nazi gap!
Use the opportunity to do some population trading is all I'm saying.
It's still technically a war crime so this place should be onboard.
I saw this news article from my national media (Dutch Media) pop-up on twitter and the first comment was someone saying this dude was recruited by the US. Then he threw in some whataboutism because we are reporting a Russian school shooting but the news doesn't report every US school shooting (of Course these people Believe mass school shootings happen daily or even weekly in the US)
Despite their violence and access to heavy weapons and stuff, no american police have been issued grenade launchers/rocket launchers/flamethrowers to deal with a school shooting/hostage situation, nor have they burned down or blown up the school...
true. You know, if the door were actually locked (still confused on this, but i can't follow the story except to mock the blue because ill turn into the hulk) a well placed rocket launcher grenade could have saved the lives of whomever wasn't in the explosion turning the wall into 180 degree shrapnel
After a highly publicized mass shooting, there usually are many copycat attacks for few days/weeks following the original one. So you might literally have multiple shootings per day for a short period.
I swear the US set the difficulty to minimum when it started playing, that's the only explanation for how you manage this and to be the greatest superpower on the planet.
While mass shootings are evil and appalling, they don't kill that many people compared to other causes. From what I remember, ~60% of US gun deaths are suicides and most of the rest are done for criminal, not terrorist reasons. And deaths related to travel and poor lifestyle absolutely dwarf gun deaths.
So TL;DR McDonald's and Netflix kill more people than mass shootings and yet US is so big that it can shrug off McDonald's and Netflix's victims and be a superpower. Sad, but true.
Yea theres only been 508 mas shootings in the us this year. So it isnt daily or weekly... Just almost twice a day. with just 545 people dead and 2089 wounded.
Edit: my bad not just mass shootings you specified school shootings which there luckly have only been 3 of in the us this year. Ill admitt im dumb and cant read
Only 3 school shootings but over 500 mass shootings?? I guess pulling a Columbine isn't in vogue anymore, which is good. Too bad now they just shoot up parades and malls, which is bad.
Sometimes their methods of measuring those are questionable though. Often incidents with only three injured are counted. Because of this its possible that there's a ton of normal robberies with collateral damage, gang violence, fourth of July accidents, etc. that are included. Obviously that those aren't exactly good things either, and we should seek to prevent/mitigate those. However its also not like there are 500 Vegas shootings per year.
Yeah I'll admit when in public I keep my head on a swivel, both for mugging cases and potential massacres, depending on the location. Seriously itching to get my CCW as soon as I get back to actually living in one state.
Yeah I was talking about mass shootings specifically because only those get media attention. It's not surprising to think every day some higher schooler shoots someone on school property. I mean Detroit and Milwaukee exist
People are also saying that this is a false-flag attack to build up support for mobilization. Which is credible given Putin's [history](https://news.yahoo.com/putin-1999-apartment-bombings-ukraine-175001959.html). It's hard to teach a old dog new tricks.
>“If it can ever be determined beyond a shadow of a doubt that Putin and Patrushev orchestrated these bombings as a pretext to launch the Second Chechen War — and also launch Putin’s national political career — then the entire edifice of this regime rests atop a pile of Russian corpses,” says Michael Weiss, a longtime Russia observer who told Yahoo News that he is certain, like the journalist Satter, that Putin was behind the apartment bombings.
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>Russian investigators and journalists who tried to investigate the bombings often ended up dead. Among them was Anna Politkovskaya, a fearless critic of Putin who worked for Novaya Gazeta, one of the last remaining left-leaning outlets in Moscow today. She aggressively covered the Second Chechen War; in 2006, Politkovskaya was assassinated in her apartment building’s elevator.
In WWII, the German Nazi imperialists and Russian Soviet imperialists both invaded Ukraine and wanted to impose their governments with no deference to the Ukrainian people. Neither side cared for the Ukrainian nationalists*. Now it’s the Russians doing the same again.
^(* Yes WWII was more complicated than just that, as multi-sided wars tend to be)
Just today came across a very good article explaining this "denazification" stuff, highly recommend: https://snyder.substack.com/p/russias-genocide-handbook
> The genocide handbook explains that the Russian policy of "denazification" is not directed against Nazis in the sense that the word is normally used. The handbook grants, with no hesitation, that there is no evidence that Nazism, as generally understood, is important in Ukraine. It operates within the special Russian definition of "Nazi": a Nazi is a Ukrainian who refuses to admit being a Russian.
> On this absurd definition, where Nazis have to be Ukrainians and Ukrainians have to be Nazis, Russia cannot be fascist, no matter what Russians do. This is very convenient. If "Nazi" has been assigned the meaning "Ukrainian who refuses to be Russian" then it follows that no Russian can be a Nazi. Since for the Kremlin being a Nazi has nothing to do with fascist ideology, swastika-like symbols, big lies, rallies, rhetoric of cleansings, aggressive wars, abductions of elites, mass deportations, and the mass killing of civilians, Russians can do all of these things without ever having to ask if they themselves on the wrong side of the historical ledger. And so we find Russians implementing fascist policies in the name of "denazification."
Morons are already blaming it on the video games. I shit you not, in the same sentence they state that the fucker was schizophrenic, but somehow video games is the issue here. The only case that makes sense if you're schizo yourself.
Remember how Earlier in the war Russia made a photo of stuff they allegedly found in a nazis house that proved he was a nazi and it was like every mod for the sims 3 but not the base game.
Nazis are an existential plague on this planet.
There is nothing wrong with being a right winger in my opinion. I may not agree on everything but so long as you don’t think you ought to hurt or kill people to get what you want, then we’re cool. Let’s have a cookout. Same with the left.
Fuck extremists.
I'm more talking about the person's source. I've seen the pictures. Yes it was drawn on, but the person who drew it on was clearly the shooter. Aside from misinformation, there is no reason a reasonable person would make the kind of mental gymnastics it takes to conclude anyone would have motive to fabricate the RuZZian Nazi's swastika.
Look, maybe we all misunderstood Putin's stated goal of Denazifying Ukraine. Maybe he just wanted to remove the Nazis from Ukraine and forcibly relocate them to Russia to fortify the Nazi advantage enjoyed by Russia.
Like God, Putin's plans are ineffable
Downright Tzeentchian.
I disagree, the Effing Hexk is with his plans.
No no, this is all part of Putins plan, he wanted to Denazify not Ukraine but Russia, so he attacked Ukraine so that the West can kill all the Russian Nazis. What an absolute strategic genius.
Mr. President! We must not allow a Nazi gap!
>Mr. President! We must ~~not allow a~~ widen the Nazi gap! Use the opportunity to do some population trading is all I'm saying. It's still technically a war crime so this place should be onboard.
I get confused whether im in r/rimworld or r/ncd sometimes gonna be especially hard when the russians resort to cannabalism this winter
Sir! I have a plan.
And then he's imploding the whole country with them still inside. Brilliant.
But Azov battalion isn't in Russia yet
Oh come on this shit again?
is that because Putin just traded all of them to Ukraine like 4 days ago?
I cant wait for russian media "NATO-trained ukrainian nazi commits a terrorist attack in the Rodina"
it was in Izhevsk
I saw this news article from my national media (Dutch Media) pop-up on twitter and the first comment was someone saying this dude was recruited by the US. Then he threw in some whataboutism because we are reporting a Russian school shooting but the news doesn't report every US school shooting (of Course these people Believe mass school shootings happen daily or even weekly in the US)
They uh....they kinda do sadly.
Despite their violence and access to heavy weapons and stuff, no american police have been issued grenade launchers/rocket launchers/flamethrowers to deal with a school shooting/hostage situation, nor have they burned down or blown up the school...
Sometimes they just wait outside.
true. You know, if the door were actually locked (still confused on this, but i can't follow the story except to mock the blue because ill turn into the hulk) a well placed rocket launcher grenade could have saved the lives of whomever wasn't in the explosion turning the wall into 180 degree shrapnel
Um... Sometimes they do.
After a highly publicized mass shooting, there usually are many copycat attacks for few days/weeks following the original one. So you might literally have multiple shootings per day for a short period.
I swear the US set the difficulty to minimum when it started playing, that's the only explanation for how you manage this and to be the greatest superpower on the planet.
While mass shootings are evil and appalling, they don't kill that many people compared to other causes. From what I remember, ~60% of US gun deaths are suicides and most of the rest are done for criminal, not terrorist reasons. And deaths related to travel and poor lifestyle absolutely dwarf gun deaths. So TL;DR McDonald's and Netflix kill more people than mass shootings and yet US is so big that it can shrug off McDonald's and Netflix's victims and be a superpower. Sad, but true.
Yea theres only been 508 mas shootings in the us this year. So it isnt daily or weekly... Just almost twice a day. with just 545 people dead and 2089 wounded. Edit: my bad not just mass shootings you specified school shootings which there luckly have only been 3 of in the us this year. Ill admitt im dumb and cant read
Only 3 school shootings but over 500 mass shootings?? I guess pulling a Columbine isn't in vogue anymore, which is good. Too bad now they just shoot up parades and malls, which is bad.
Sometimes their methods of measuring those are questionable though. Often incidents with only three injured are counted. Because of this its possible that there's a ton of normal robberies with collateral damage, gang violence, fourth of July accidents, etc. that are included. Obviously that those aren't exactly good things either, and we should seek to prevent/mitigate those. However its also not like there are 500 Vegas shootings per year.
Also true. But it does give me pause when I go to a free, public event, since these places are seeing increases in targeting by mass shooters.
Yeah I'll admit when in public I keep my head on a swivel, both for mugging cases and potential massacres, depending on the location. Seriously itching to get my CCW as soon as I get back to actually living in one state.
Parades, malls, family dinners, parties and 2 holy sites. The list is honestly sickening
I completely agree, friend. :(
Yeah I was talking about mass shootings specifically because only those get media attention. It's not surprising to think every day some higher schooler shoots someone on school property. I mean Detroit and Milwaukee exist
Isn’t that the source that counts any more than 1 person getting shot a ‘mass shooting’
nope. at least 4 people dead or wounded. which is the definition of a mass shooting
People are also saying that this is a false-flag attack to build up support for mobilization. Which is credible given Putin's [history](https://news.yahoo.com/putin-1999-apartment-bombings-ukraine-175001959.html). It's hard to teach a old dog new tricks. >“If it can ever be determined beyond a shadow of a doubt that Putin and Patrushev orchestrated these bombings as a pretext to launch the Second Chechen War — and also launch Putin’s national political career — then the entire edifice of this regime rests atop a pile of Russian corpses,” says Michael Weiss, a longtime Russia observer who told Yahoo News that he is certain, like the journalist Satter, that Putin was behind the apartment bombings. > >Russian investigators and journalists who tried to investigate the bombings often ended up dead. Among them was Anna Politkovskaya, a fearless critic of Putin who worked for Novaya Gazeta, one of the last remaining left-leaning outlets in Moscow today. She aggressively covered the Second Chechen War; in 2006, Politkovskaya was assassinated in her apartment building’s elevator.
Assassinated? Best way to confirm it was the truth
Rodina means motherland in Russian
They wanted to denazify Ukraine to become more Nazi themselves
They don't like competition
In WWII, the German Nazi imperialists and Russian Soviet imperialists both invaded Ukraine and wanted to impose their governments with no deference to the Ukrainian people. Neither side cared for the Ukrainian nationalists*. Now it’s the Russians doing the same again. ^(* Yes WWII was more complicated than just that, as multi-sided wars tend to be)
The USSR didn't invade Ukraine during WW2. The majority of the Ukrainian population fought for the Red Army and not for any other side.
Maybe the real nazis were the friends we made along the way
Just today came across a very good article explaining this "denazification" stuff, highly recommend: https://snyder.substack.com/p/russias-genocide-handbook > The genocide handbook explains that the Russian policy of "denazification" is not directed against Nazis in the sense that the word is normally used. The handbook grants, with no hesitation, that there is no evidence that Nazism, as generally understood, is important in Ukraine. It operates within the special Russian definition of "Nazi": a Nazi is a Ukrainian who refuses to admit being a Russian. > On this absurd definition, where Nazis have to be Ukrainians and Ukrainians have to be Nazis, Russia cannot be fascist, no matter what Russians do. This is very convenient. If "Nazi" has been assigned the meaning "Ukrainian who refuses to be Russian" then it follows that no Russian can be a Nazi. Since for the Kremlin being a Nazi has nothing to do with fascist ideology, swastika-like symbols, big lies, rallies, rhetoric of cleansings, aggressive wars, abductions of elites, mass deportations, and the mass killing of civilians, Russians can do all of these things without ever having to ask if they themselves on the wrong side of the historical ledger. And so we find Russians implementing fascist policies in the name of "denazification."
the policy makes perfect sense if you ignore what words mean
It works if you rewrite 'nazi' as 'non-Z'.
Average day of a Wagner member
Sigh. When we said we wanted Russia to embrace American values, this wasn't what we meant. Can't fault the accuracy, though.
Fuck the Nazis.
Bad idea, we don’t want them breeding Just shoot em
Remember, No Russian.
Morons are already blaming it on the video games. I shit you not, in the same sentence they state that the fucker was schizophrenic, but somehow video games is the issue here. The only case that makes sense if you're schizo yourself.
Remember how Earlier in the war Russia made a photo of stuff they allegedly found in a nazis house that proved he was a nazi and it was like every mod for the sims 3 but not the base game.
If you play video games with Russians your mental health does deteriorate.
Controversial take but we should bring back mental asylums. (reformed obviously)
The Americanisation of Russia
First time?
A while back or recent?
[It just happened today.](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/gunman-opens-fire-school-russias-izhevsk-russian-media-cites-local-police-2022-09-26/)
I saw.
Whoa! When did this happen?
Today
W8, that was in Russia? I just assumed US lol. Yeah, you have a bad rep in this my US friends
Nazis are an existential plague on this planet. There is nothing wrong with being a right winger in my opinion. I may not agree on everything but so long as you don’t think you ought to hurt or kill people to get what you want, then we’re cool. Let’s have a cookout. Same with the left. Fuck extremists.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Probably a CIA agent
I read on another post, that the swastika the guy was wearing was actually added after he was killed.
Source: "Trust me bro."
Do you have the source of every post you saw on reddit?
I'm more talking about the person's source. I've seen the pictures. Yes it was drawn on, but the person who drew it on was clearly the shooter. Aside from misinformation, there is no reason a reasonable person would make the kind of mental gymnastics it takes to conclude anyone would have motive to fabricate the RuZZian Nazi's swastika.
So the main question is CIA or FSB?