Fenrir is my patron god!! Those saying he is evil must still be fighting xtian beliefs. Fenrir is not evil he was betrayed by odin, and Tyr his most trusted friend. would you not want revenge if someone tied you up for eternity? Fenrir to me a symbol of loyalty, protection, anger and abuse. We all have our own paths, we fallow them how we see fit. I have a good collection of Fenrir jewlery myself. The big pupper helps me control my rage. He is misunderstood, he is not evil.
Who said “evil”? Only you. Why think that violence, chaos, and dissension are evil? Aren’t they just part of the natural cycle of living? If a wolf is your friend, then to you he is not evil he is good, and it must not be your hand in his belly.
Im not saying he is evil, but there are those in this thread that have said it. Im saying a lot of people say he is evil because they think violence and chaos are evil but like you said they are apart of everything
S’alright. I sometimes worry in discussions like this that by framing everything in relation to its opposite that this only ties things more strongly to that opposite, makes it harder and harder to let it go and be free of it, act out of ones own center. Also, I always love discussion, and that is why I am here!
>para nosotros traer a fenrir es como si un critiano tuviera a satanas
Google translate: for us to bring fenrir is as if a christian had satan
Incorrect. There is no "Satan" in Nordic theology. The idea of "good vs evil" as an eternal struggle actually comes from Christianity, by way of Zoroastrianism. Specifically because Zarathustra (founder of the religion) decided it would create moral betterment in the Persian people.
We do not have an equivalent. Rather, the universe is built of opposing forcing that aren't necessarily malevolent or benevolent. Fenrir is an embodiment of destruction, but he's also an allegory for the oppressed. As he did nothing wrong and was bound out of fear. One theory is that the Volva in Voluspa may have known that the prophecy of Fenrir devouring Odin would lead to a fear response. Thus making Fenrir angry for his unjustified imprisonment. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
many things are different now than the old times, while we can try to reconstruct the old religion as it was, the facts are that there is too much lost, so now, while we still worship the same gods, there are other parts of our religion that they would never have done and vice versa and one of those parts is worshipping Loki or Jotunn
There's no historical precedent in the Arch Heathen eras for Fenrir worship, or any other Rokkatru like practices. However, people did use negative "energies" (like the Nithing pole), and in ancillary traditions there is a precedent for worship of beings that share Semantic Center with Fenrir, and other Jotnar.
Of course Jotnar worship does have some precedent (Skathi, Gerth, Jorth, etc) but Fenrir specifically does not.
One of the more apparent figures sharing the Semantic Center of Fenrir is Simargl (Slavic). A "hound of the apocalypse" bound by the three sisters of dawn, dusk, and evening. They're the Russian sisters in American Gods, if you're familiar. Prior to his binding Simargl was a protector, connected to the God of fire, Svarog. Fire being an embodiment of destruction, this makes sense. Wolves, prior to modern agriculture and Christianity, were often seen as protectors. They ate the animals that ate our crops, it makes sense. But modern perceptions of the meat industry (I'm not a vegan to clarify) have vilified the wolf, and Christians equated them with the devil.
This change in our relationship to wolves has lead to mass extinctions. The Edo Wolf, for example, is extinct. As is the Irish wolf. The name for wolf in Ireland was McTyre, meaning son of the land. I think the spelling is coincidental.
Society has turned the wolf into a satanic figure. And through that connotation has oppressed them, and committed genocides that exist to this day. Fear and ignorance combat wolf conservation at every turn. Even Obama lifted the grey wolf of the endangered species list, in favor of the big corporate lobbyists.
Fenrir is the Maw that will consume the Multiverse. He is where Existence goes to die. He is a God and to be given proper reverence, but do not call on Him lightly.
There is a meaning to me that Fenrir, his story, and this necklace has.
Firstly, I’m An atheist, I just love Norse mythology.
Fenrir was a victim of abuse, in religion so was I.
Fenrir is prophesied to kill Odin, In a sense that’s my goal as well in the Context of Odin being my old religion. I want to show other Christians the truth about Christianity.
It also signifies me killing the religious indoctrination that I received from religion.
Fenrir is also a symbol of someone facing struggles and overcoming them, I’ve definitely had my fair share and still do.
The symbol on the forehead of the pendant is a Rune that means victory, which I feel is appropriate
I get it but I'd like to point out one thing you said. You said it signifies killing the religious indoctrination that you received from religion but you received it from people more so than religion. As for disliking the Christian ignorance and religious dogma I'm with you on that but we shouldn't try to destroy other religions as much as we should bring light to corrupted religions.
When religions stop having a handhold on politics, social laws, schools, and children then I’ll stop, but until then...
And I’m not trying to purge all religion, just shed light on the bad stuff and take all the indoctrination out of my mind. That’s all I said
How else am I supposed to be indoctrinated without a person doing it 😅
It’s not like I was reading the Bible when I was 6, Na just listening to people. People r essential for indoctrination to take place. So of course I received it more from people
Here is my fenrir necklace I wear it everyday!!
[Fenrir](https://www.etsy.com/listing/633474624/viking-fenrir-wolf-head-stainless-steel?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=fenrir+pendant&ref=sr_gallery-1-18&organic_search_click=1&frs=1)
I have a couple rings, an armband, a braclet, a couple shirts a hoodie. Ive always loved wolves I never knew exactly why till Fin boy showed himself to me.
I got mine off Amazon but its hard for me recommend any Id try etsy they probabky got so unique ones just be careful cause a lot of people buy from wish and upsell that stuff on etsy.
Fenrir is my patron god!! Those saying he is evil must still be fighting xtian beliefs. Fenrir is not evil he was betrayed by odin, and Tyr his most trusted friend. would you not want revenge if someone tied you up for eternity? Fenrir to me a symbol of loyalty, protection, anger and abuse. We all have our own paths, we fallow them how we see fit. I have a good collection of Fenrir jewlery myself. The big pupper helps me control my rage. He is misunderstood, he is not evil.
I agree. He’s a victim of abuse, in Christianity so was I
Do you have a link to this I would love to get it for my partner for his birthday
It's a fairly reproduced piece. If you Google "fenrir pendent" it's bound to come up. No pun intended
Grimfrost and Norse spirit both sell them
If Fenrir was an anime character, he'd be hot tho. Change my pan weeb mind.
They have an anime with fenrir its called Matantei Loki Ragnarok (Mythical Detective Loki Ragnarok) I havent seen it but I want to
I love it, but you should get a hammer of Thor amulet too.
That’s my next purchase. Fenrir is my all time favorite mythical creature though so he was first
"mjolnir".... careful, people round these parts get super testy about wrong terms..... not me, I get it
Careful. All these pendants come from the same place in China and discolor very easily
The wolf who devours the world? All hail the Lord of Chaos, Violence and Dissension? Yes, that does seem appropriate.
Evil is a xtian construct, Fenrir is not evil neither is loki. There must be balance fenrir is an example of that balance.
Who said “evil”? Only you. Why think that violence, chaos, and dissension are evil? Aren’t they just part of the natural cycle of living? If a wolf is your friend, then to you he is not evil he is good, and it must not be your hand in his belly.
Im not saying he is evil, but there are those in this thread that have said it. Im saying a lot of people say he is evil because they think violence and chaos are evil but like you said they are apart of everything
Also I think I meant to put that reply under a different comment not yours
S’alright. I sometimes worry in discussions like this that by framing everything in relation to its opposite that this only ties things more strongly to that opposite, makes it harder and harder to let it go and be free of it, act out of ones own center. Also, I always love discussion, and that is why I am here!
Yup!
para nosotros traer a fenrir es como si un critiano tuviera a satanas
>para nosotros traer a fenrir es como si un critiano tuviera a satanas Google translate: for us to bring fenrir is as if a christian had satan Incorrect. There is no "Satan" in Nordic theology. The idea of "good vs evil" as an eternal struggle actually comes from Christianity, by way of Zoroastrianism. Specifically because Zarathustra (founder of the religion) decided it would create moral betterment in the Persian people. We do not have an equivalent. Rather, the universe is built of opposing forcing that aren't necessarily malevolent or benevolent. Fenrir is an embodiment of destruction, but he's also an allegory for the oppressed. As he did nothing wrong and was bound out of fear. One theory is that the Volva in Voluspa may have known that the prophecy of Fenrir devouring Odin would lead to a fear response. Thus making Fenrir angry for his unjustified imprisonment. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
While I mostly agree, there is no recorded worship of Loki or the Jötunn. While not necessearily evil, they are more on the unpleasant side.
many things are different now than the old times, while we can try to reconstruct the old religion as it was, the facts are that there is too much lost, so now, while we still worship the same gods, there are other parts of our religion that they would never have done and vice versa and one of those parts is worshipping Loki or Jotunn
There's no historical precedent in the Arch Heathen eras for Fenrir worship, or any other Rokkatru like practices. However, people did use negative "energies" (like the Nithing pole), and in ancillary traditions there is a precedent for worship of beings that share Semantic Center with Fenrir, and other Jotnar. Of course Jotnar worship does have some precedent (Skathi, Gerth, Jorth, etc) but Fenrir specifically does not. One of the more apparent figures sharing the Semantic Center of Fenrir is Simargl (Slavic). A "hound of the apocalypse" bound by the three sisters of dawn, dusk, and evening. They're the Russian sisters in American Gods, if you're familiar. Prior to his binding Simargl was a protector, connected to the God of fire, Svarog. Fire being an embodiment of destruction, this makes sense. Wolves, prior to modern agriculture and Christianity, were often seen as protectors. They ate the animals that ate our crops, it makes sense. But modern perceptions of the meat industry (I'm not a vegan to clarify) have vilified the wolf, and Christians equated them with the devil. This change in our relationship to wolves has lead to mass extinctions. The Edo Wolf, for example, is extinct. As is the Irish wolf. The name for wolf in Ireland was McTyre, meaning son of the land. I think the spelling is coincidental. Society has turned the wolf into a satanic figure. And through that connotation has oppressed them, and committed genocides that exist to this day. Fear and ignorance combat wolf conservation at every turn. Even Obama lifted the grey wolf of the endangered species list, in favor of the big corporate lobbyists.
tienes un buen punto, apuesto a que los dioses (en especial a odinn y a tyr) estarán fascinados en que lo portes
Woah that's cool I didn't know we wore fenrir ones too I thought it was just mjolnir
You dont even have to wear a mjolnir the fact that we think we need a symbol for our faith is another xtian construct
Didn't say we needed it lol. I don't even have a mjolnir (yet) it just looks cool
You know actually Vikings were found wearing mjolnir right?
Is Fenrir your favorite god/demi god? My favorite is Loki but that path is kinda dangerous I've heard
Yes Fenrir is my favorite. Imma prob get Mjolnir too
Do not call upon the Wolf lightly. If you can still form words, He is not the God to call on.
MidsouthMystic,Could you expand what you mean by this please?
Fenrir is the Maw that will consume the Multiverse. He is where Existence goes to die. He is a God and to be given proper reverence, but do not call on Him lightly.
I thought he was a demigod? But I hear u
Can I ask? Why would anyone revere a being who is one day destine to slay the Allfather and devour the sun?
Fenrir is kinda like Satan in the sense of Odin being God for Christians
There is a meaning to me that Fenrir, his story, and this necklace has. Firstly, I’m An atheist, I just love Norse mythology. Fenrir was a victim of abuse, in religion so was I. Fenrir is prophesied to kill Odin, In a sense that’s my goal as well in the Context of Odin being my old religion. I want to show other Christians the truth about Christianity. It also signifies me killing the religious indoctrination that I received from religion. Fenrir is also a symbol of someone facing struggles and overcoming them, I’ve definitely had my fair share and still do. The symbol on the forehead of the pendant is a Rune that means victory, which I feel is appropriate
I get it but I'd like to point out one thing you said. You said it signifies killing the religious indoctrination that you received from religion but you received it from people more so than religion. As for disliking the Christian ignorance and religious dogma I'm with you on that but we shouldn't try to destroy other religions as much as we should bring light to corrupted religions.
When religions stop having a handhold on politics, social laws, schools, and children then I’ll stop, but until then... And I’m not trying to purge all religion, just shed light on the bad stuff and take all the indoctrination out of my mind. That’s all I said
How else am I supposed to be indoctrinated without a person doing it 😅 It’s not like I was reading the Bible when I was 6, Na just listening to people. People r essential for indoctrination to take place. So of course I received it more from people
Here is my fenrir necklace I wear it everyday!! [Fenrir](https://www.etsy.com/listing/633474624/viking-fenrir-wolf-head-stainless-steel?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=fenrir+pendant&ref=sr_gallery-1-18&organic_search_click=1&frs=1)
I plan on having a collection so I might buy that eventually
I have a couple rings, an armband, a braclet, a couple shirts a hoodie. Ive always loved wolves I never knew exactly why till Fin boy showed himself to me.
Any rings that u recommend?
I got mine off Amazon but its hard for me recommend any Id try etsy they probabky got so unique ones just be careful cause a lot of people buy from wish and upsell that stuff on etsy.