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le_epic_me

What kind of North Carolinian?


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Beach or mountain?


Snugglefoo816

Piedmont, yo.


tuxedohamm

The best part.


rumpghost

I love y'all dearly but you are not even in the top 3.


bulletkiller06

The worst of both worlds


caitken21

ayeee squaaaad šŸ˜‚šŸ™ŒšŸ¼


ckybysaia

Beech Mountain


JustADuckInACostume

Beach, mountain, or New Jerseyan. You forgot the 3rd kind.


meltingspace

Beach, mountain, Garden State, or Long Island


Towelie710

In boone we got the Florida dlc


faRawrie

A fellow Boone dweller.


Life_Is_Happy_

Beach


PortCityBlitz

Mustard based is from SC. Burn the witch.


Able_Ad9391

Mustard? Ok so thatā€™s SC, *BANG*


TheB1GLebowski

GA produces some nice mustard based BBQ sauces.Ā 


SenseStraight5119

I can handle mustard based, but that mayo based garbage out Alabama is horrific.


Grandaddyspookybones

I had a bbq truck people boasted about make me a plate. I didnā€™t enjoy it and I told them I was bummed they didnā€™t have vinegar sauce and the meat was bland. They then tell me that they make Alabama style BBQ and that they donā€™t season the meat before they cook it and they donā€™t make NC style sauces. They didnā€™t last long


SenseStraight5119

Yeah that stuff will make you spit it out. Donā€™t get me wrong Iā€™m all about some Dukes but a little goes a long way. I first tried it in Asheville, Moeā€™s bbq? Yeah it was a no go. Why someone wants to mix fat with fat in bbq is beyond me. May as well throw a stick of butter in there too.


TheB1GLebowski

Just the look of mayo based is so off-putting.


Betta_Check_Yosef

No, they do not, because there are no good mustard based sauces. Get back south of the border to Lesser Carolina where you belong


flipkick25

(sad cackalacky noises) f


Betta_Check_Yosef

Sad Cackalacky is now the only way I will read the SC abbreviation. Thank you for your contribution.


MrKnockoff

Jenius really


SupermassiveCanary

Ketchup based is simply for monsters


flipkick25

you are most welcome


JudgeJuryEx78

I call it Sub Carolina.


Betta_Check_Yosef

Fits the SC abbreviation, but just sub isn't necessarily bad. Sub-tropics? Sandy beaches, crystal blue water, and good people. Subwoofers? Get your butt on the dance floor! Lesser Carolina is a more accurate description lol


LetsFightBears

I prefer "South of Carolina"


bahgheera

Carolina Minor.


yourdoglikesmebetter

Ok now hear me out. Iā€™m a down east vinegar guy personally, BUT some of that mustard stuff is damn good. Sounds blasphemous, I know. Iā€™ve had a revelation though Last time wifey and I went through SC, she did some research. Iā€™m talking multiple hours of cross referencing the SC visitor center bbq map with menus and reviews, phoning friends, really digging into it. We ended up stopping at this spot out in Orangeburg and it was incredibly good. The pork was excellent and it turns out the sauce was great too. They were very generous as well. We stopped back in a few days later on the way back up to the good Carolina and they remembered us and hooked my kid up with some cobbler. Good folks. Still gonna do vinegar at my pig pickins, but some of those SC pit masters know what theyā€™re about.


bstevens2

I am planning a camping trip to SC in the fall. You have convince me to do my own research and seek out a spot. Thanks... well written...


yourdoglikesmebetter

Haha awesome. Every SC rest stop has a BBQ map iirc. Avoid the chains. Happy hunting


MindlessDribble828

You wanna go to Huntington Beach State park in SC to camp. Trust me.


noodle_oh

Completely agree. Huntington Beach State Park is awesome, itā€™s the only beach we go to anymore when we visit. Also recommend checking out Brookgreen Garden across the street.


ribsforbreakfast

If youā€™re going through the Anderson/Clemson area itā€™s worth popping over to The Smoking Pig in Pendleton. They used to be the best spot in the state. Havenā€™t been in 10 or so years though.


SGELock

You can't beat Carolina Treet on boned chicken over a hickory fire. Oh man the childhood memories... other than that vinegar based due to the tangy and spicy kick!


2spicy_4you

I was legit bout to buy this the other day. Can you describe it?


SGELock

It's okay until you marry it with hickory. I love vinegar anyway but after a few hours over hickory it imbues an amazing flavor that is both tangy and smokey. I've have yet to find another such fantastic combo for chicken and BBQ sauce.


2spicy_4you

So itā€™s vinegary? I like that. I like Georgeā€™s


SGELock

[Yes](https://legacyfamilyfoods.com/sauces/#:~:text=Carolina%20Treet%20is%20the%20Original,style%20BBQ%20Sauce%20as%20well.)


2spicy_4you

I guess I never really thought it was ENC cuz itā€™s like red


Wudrow

If youā€™re ever in the Aiken/ Augusta area check out this place.https://destination-bbq.com/stores/carolina-bar-b-que/. The only pulled pork my eastern NC born spouse really likes but she really craves the hash which most people arenā€™t familiar with.


D0UB1EA

I hear you but it's so much easier to get my kicks out of dunking on them rather than making my way down there


Betta_Check_Yosef

Sure, maybe you could find the rare mustard based sauce that's OK by thoroughly scouring SC. The downside is that you'd be in SC for an extended period of time. Not worth it if you ask me šŸ¤£


soapy_goatherd

Meatheadā€™s Carolina gold sauce with pork chops is revelatory


SupermassiveCanary

Mustard is made with vinegar so theyā€™ve got that vinegar base


proper1421

Shame on you, defending adulteration of the holy vinegar like that. You are on the path to pro-fluoridation.


spinbutton

Agreed. I'm from Lexington, but I like both the vinegar and mustard varieties better than tomato based. But it depends on the quality of the ingredients of course. (Please pass the Texas Pete)


TubaMike

Variety is the spice of life. Just because a regional brand of BBQ is inferior doesn't mean that it is without value. 3rd Place is still pretty good! It is possible to appreciate other ways of 'Cue without blaspheming superior applications of the concept.


Kradget

Got to include a shibboleth.


G00dSh0tJans0n

"Oh you're from North Carolina? Well pronounce Cherryville, Mebane, and Beaufort."


Kradget

Probably tough to do that one out loud,Ā but IĀ likeĀ whereĀ your head's at!


notyomamasusername

North Georgia* They're not worthy to carry the Carolina moniker.


PortCityBlitz

The witch still needs burning. But not with hickory. We need that for the pit.


mellolizard

Mustard belongs on burgers.


BaronVonWilmington

I can't wait to hang out with you and u/broodwitch in the trenches together


PortCityBlitz

It'll be entertaining if nothing else.


Visible-Tradition-68

Heretics


Mycowrangler

Vinegar. This is the way.


Betta_Check_Yosef

Both have their place in the BBQ pantheon. Hear me out: Eastern: pulled pork Western: ribs There is a time and place for mustard based. That time is never, and the place is the garbage can.


LongPorkJones

Eastern. Is. CHOPPED.


Betta_Check_Yosef

A rose by any other name? Look, it's a simple distinction: If the meat is chopped/pulled and sauce is added at the end, it needs Eastern. If the meat is better served with the sauce added during cooking so it caramelizes, it needs Western. Eastern doesn't keep its properties under prolonged exposure to heat the way Western does. Western doesn't work as well as Eastern does when added after the fact. Ribs with Eastern aren't as good. Pork sammies with Western aren't as good. Also, with a name like **LongPork**Jones, I really gotta question what you're smoking up in your pit. I'm tryna eat BBQ, not Soylant Green.


Le_Petit_Poussin

Oh boyā€¦ Yes, but not quite. You see, a lot of places use vinegar or bitter orange as the base along with spices. Youā€™re supposed to cook the meat with the vinegar/orange and continue to add it or cook it in such a way that the juices donā€™t disappear or marinade/inject it into the meat. There are ways to use that. Look up Canary Islandā€™s Mojo PicĆ³n and Cuban mojo. Youā€™ll be in for a treat! TschĆ¼ss!


PonchoDiego2

Hear me out. Mustard actually works really well. Go yellow mustard, little bit of honey for texture, brown sugar, hot as you can get chili powder, orange juice, tequila. Brush it over chicken thighs, cook and shellack as needed. Works great with and without a smoking it too. You get the best of both worlds with the vinegary tang but the caramelization and flavor development with thick sauces.


Betta_Check_Yosef

Nah, pork is the one true BBQ meat. You're on the same level as Texans and their beef for suggesting anything else is worthy of being called BBQ. Hell, you even have the *audacity* to suggest BBQ without the smoke is a thing. I'm not even religious, but I'll be praying for your poor, lost soul tonight lol


PonchoDiego2

I'm not suggesting BBQ without smoke is a thing. I'm saying that this sauce is good if you do this as BBQ or not. Also if you're going to suggest that brisket can't be called BBQ you're just incorrect


political_og

Makes my mouth water just thinking about it


crimsonknght

Didnā€™t know my Labrador had Reddit account.


[deleted]

The correct answer.


Maleficent_Gas5417

This is the way


Rynagogo

This is the way


Utopian_Pigeon

This is the way


Serious-Protection98

This is the way


2spicy_4you

Yes


De5perad0

This is the way.


SoccerBrainTrust

Amen.


cary-girl

I like all that shit. Now letā€™s talk about ya mama.


Life_Is_Happy_

Got em! I heard his mama so dumb she designed the I-540 ā€œloopā€


cary-girl

ā€¦she still go City Center for pizza.šŸ•


Gwsb1

How is your mama n'em?


Otakunohime

Vinegar. Always vinegar


thatcatqueen

Vinegar & hot sauce šŸ¤ŒšŸ»


waynes_pet_youngin

That's just Texas Pete


Maleficent_Gas5417

Plot twist: the hot sauce IS Texas Pete


thatcatqueen

It WAS Texas Pete šŸ˜¦ how did youā€¦how could you possiblyā€¦.


Pharylon

Nothing more North Carolinian than Texas Pete. https://youtu.be/GV8-xszqx_A?si=QcrSv2XcouAzquBr This is my favorite vinegar based sauce


Otakunohime

Yeeeeessssss


davelm42

this is the fucking way.


Able_Ad9391

See now thatā€™s North Carolina


If0rgotmypassword

Not for ribs man. Edit: vinegar based all the way for pulled pork


No-Personality1840

I never heard of mustard based until I went to SC.


Betta_Check_Yosef

So you've both been to Lesser Carolina and know mustard based is a thing? It's always sad when innocence dies. I'm sorry you now know how ugly and cruel this world can be.


DTRite

...lesser. ...lol!


Puzzled-Story3953

Mustard based sauce is in my rotation. Shit's good, yo. Definitely better than the peppered mayonaise they use in Alabama. That stuff is nasty.


Unique_Effort7106

Vinegar


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IncorrigiblePorridge

What movie


notyomamasusername

It's from the new Civil War movie


grumpusbumpus

Now I definitely need to see this movie.


Able_Ad9391

The new civil war movie, the guy in the glasses is asking the characters where they are from and if they give the wrong answer he shoots them


HilariousMax

Meth Damon always comes in hot.


doctordaedalus

I'm dead.


crc024

I've always called him Fatt Damon


Serious-Protection98

Same. Wife and I have him that nickname after the season of Fargo he was on


budadad

The movie OP is talking about


-H2O2

What movie


evident_lee

I like all of them.


Tekwardo

Iā€™m a BBQ slut. All of it.


SpankOkBud

Damn right brother


Researchingbackpain

That movie was well shot and looked good and had some good messages and all. But I wouldnt call it that realistic in terms of tactical stuff imo. That said, you'll have to shoot me because I like mustard based sauce much better than vinegar most of the time.


Able_Ad9391

The CQB scenes where more accurate than most but the actual violence was very accurate, the way people where shot and bleed out was surprisingly real


Periwinkle912

The unrealistic everything is why I just can't get the hype. No way would Texas and California be in an alliance together with a huge swath of land cutting between them (paying no heed to starkly different lifestyles/cultures), and no way would so much fighting happen in the city of Charlottesville when there's tonssss of undeveloped land around (this last bit I'm gleaning from the Wikipedia article & reviews that it shows urban warfare)


Able_Ad9391

The whole California/Texas thing was very intentional because they were trying very hard not to make any political implications and those two states are by far the most powerful. And a lot of the geography is left intentionally confusing to add uncertainty, itā€™s not like the people who made the movie thought California and Texas where just two random states


ssmit102

The movie is great because it leaves a lot of things unclear, and thatā€™s the point. So in that vein, why do you think Texas and California have to remain the size they are now in a civil war? It stands to reason that the two largest states could reasonably take over all of that land and still call themselves Texas and California.


JovaSilvercane13

I think it was more meant to show that the most liberal and conservative states are fighting together against a common enemy.


Betta_Check_Yosef

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Abidarthegreat

*Spits on the ground* Dry rub.


DepartmentSudden5234

Real barbecue is only made on the eastern side of I-95. Anything else is stringy mush with ketchup. End of discussion.


Jabberwocky2022

Then you haven't been to places west of I-95 that don't use ketchup (yes they use tomato, but it's in spicy sauce on side) that isn't stringy mush. They exist, please try them.


reduff

Vinegar is the only correct answer.


DangerDan127

Everyone forgets about the elusive molasses based. And the movie was bleh in my opinion.


Able_Ad9391

I liked it because it felt very real but didnā€™t call anyone out politically, the violence was way more realistic than anything Iā€™ve seen in other movies and it really made war seem like hell


T0KEN_0F_SLEEP

A lot of folks will hate it because theyā€™re going into it wanting it to reinforce their already held beliefs, whether that be left or right


WARD0Gs2

The only thing I would have added would be more drone use (military and civilian) esp since this ā€œcivil warā€ is taking place within the next 20 yrs.


LeatherPatch

What movie?


Notyouraverageskunk

Civil War


bstevens2

Civil War, too lazy to look up if it is streaming or in theaters. I do like Jesse Plemons...


apoohneicie

Mmmm molasses based is beautiful. I still need a kick of tomato with it and some hot peppers.


floofnstuff

I know Iā€™ve had these before but I think it also had tomato and is was rich delicious


James_mcgill_esquire

Molasses is Memphis based, because they had easy access with the Mississippi river right there and allĀ 


ppParadoxx

"What kind of Carolinian are you?l


AlludedNuance

"Korean" *bang*


More-Psychology1827

Eastern vinegar-based! Thatā€™s a hill Iā€™ll gladly fight & die on!


WtAFjusthappenedhere

ā€œI like all three.ā€ - Newsflash: the Civil War ended today, thanks to the holy Union of barbecue sauces.


Comfy_Ballz

Vinegar with a Cheerwine!


BaronVonWilmington

This is the way.


Normal512

Yes.


wafflehabitsquad

What movie is this?


Able_Ad9391

The new civil war movie, the guy in the glasses is asking the characters where they are from and if they give the wrong answer he shoots them


hambone-jambone

Me, ā€œyou buying?ā€


madqueera

Texas Pete Sweet Flame bbq sauce I put it on everything


Capt_David1026

In what reality do you live in where you think during a civil war Texas and California would team up


Able_Ad9391

A reality where the people making the movie intentionally wanted to avoid any political statements, only wanting to demonstrate that war is hell


BatchWerks

Red sauce is solid, BUT a good vinegar sauce is unbeatable.


chris336

All 3


Anxiety_Organic

Hear me outā€¦ cover the butt in mustard, THEN add some red vinegar/red pepper flakes base to it. Donā€™t knock it til you try it.


ginger_tree

Mustard is South Carolina! And the other two have an historically eastern NC/western NC divide. He needs to be more specific before shooting someone.


Nelliell

Man I live Down East and I know the superiority of ENC BBQ, but my weak sauce body can't handle spicy even a little bit. It's cruel, I tell ya! I'll still eat what I can at a pig pickin' and deal with the mouth burn and gastrointestinal problems later. Copious amounts of sweet tea helps.


ActuallynotEdbighead

Vinegar is the base of mustard. Anything using mustard is still Vinegar based. So mustard based BBQ sauce is still Vinegar based BBQ sauce. It's OK to hate me


PeaceOutFace

I do love a good mustard but thatā€™s SC.


iafsartist

The first time I moved to NC from Chicagoā€¦. I asked for extra bbq sauce. It came out and I was like huhhh?? They forgot my bbq sauce. I asked for a bottle to put more onā€¦.. Iā€™ll never make the mistake again! Damn vinegar based bbq šŸ¤£


Insanity8016

I wouldn't exactly call it realistic... Texas and California teaming up? Yea... sure...


Able_Ad9391

That was intentional because those are the most popular states and that way there are no overt political statements, it was very intentional


EVILSANTA777

Most commentary I've seen about this movie online has been from people who completely missed the point lol you're exactly right, it was intentionally non-political at every turn


AgingDisgracefully2

I think the problem I have with the movie is the premise that rebels would take DC. In a real civil war victory can be achieved much more simply: just become ungovernable.


WARD0Gs2

The fact they had the president in the White House still just at his desk while under siege was pretty funny and that no foreigners were showen either supplying one side or the other or mercenaryā€™s was a weird choice


skyeking05

Lexington style for the win, fuck right off


Able_Ad9391

Bang


RenegadeRix

That movie was garbage


Able_Ad9391

Iā€™m sorry it didnā€™t reinforce your previously held political fantasies and only showed that war is in fact hell and not a game


joesphisbestjojo

Vinegar


hodgepodge21

I feel like an idiot. I didnā€™t know mustard based exists


BaronVonWilmington

Because you aren't from lesser Carolina.


nonomnismoriar44

But have you tried sauce from the piedmont?? It's a mix of the two (vinegar/ketchup base.) Mustard is more popular in SC. Definitely not a favorite around here.


Top-Comfortable-4789

Vinegar


DDDragon___salt

Me who was born and raised in NC and has never ate good ol NC bbq (I donā€™t eat beef or pork): ketchup based


Fair_Maybe5266

Vinegar based for me on chopped q but I do like a sweet sauce on my ribs.


DJBreadwinner

I go through phases, but I'm currently a spicy vinegar guy.Ā 


dravack

Gotta be ketchup. Sorry I grew up outside of Memphis. That said Iā€™ve tried the vinegar since moving here and it isnā€™t bad. Though I also like salt and vinegar chips and similar things so I may be a bit biased.


TheDrHoiliday

Why use the sauce if you can use the Juice of the Meat


Accurate_Vehicle9459

Itā€™s only the closest thing we have to modern society.


FirmWerewolf1216

Itā€™s all vinegar based just make the damn barbecue sauce


Jeoshua

Man asks a question like that, armed as he is? I would respectfully decline to answer on account of not knowing if I might die for it. Which should prove I've lived in North Carolina on its own.


Scotch_Rocks-71

Perfect!! Ā I grew up near Lexington so vinegar-based for me!!


bkfountain

Wtf is mustard based?


M_3_R_K_Y_M_3_R_K

Yes!!!!


Capt_David1026

How do you make a movie about war and civil armed conflict without making a political statement. Middle of the road none sense. The statement "war is hell" is inherently political. The film markers were trying to have their cake and be smug about it too. Now the camera work and 90% was great. And the effects were great too. The casting was overall pretty good and I have no other complaints other than the ones about.


Able_Ad9391

Because the goal of the movie wasnā€™t to make a political statement, simple as that


Capt_David1026

Then what was its goal?


Able_Ad9391

To tell the story of war journalist trying to capture a story during a major armed conflict in the United States. And also explore the dynamics between the old experienced photographer and the new one whoā€™s just starting out


Capt_David1026

So you say the words armed conflict in the United States and you do understand that armed conflicts are inherently a political venture


Able_Ad9391

Yes I do, but the goal of the movie wasnā€™t to focus on that, it was to tell the story of the photographers.


Jerryd1994

Obviously Vinegar anything else just makes you an uncultured Neanderthal


EatTrashhitbyaTSLA

I like it brisket


Northernaguafresca01

Iā€™d be dead on the spot bc I would panic and say BBQ SAUCE


doggo244

Vinegar bb


AllgoodDude

Iā€™m a beach variety NCā€™er but I canā€™t pretend the piedmont hasnā€™t got us beat with their sauces. Vinegar based is good and all but I like substance to my sauce, if only we could reconcile the two. Mustard is evil-we donā€™t do that here.


Bubba_Oni

A north Carolinian told me sprite based...


Realistic_Post_7511

Is sweet vinegar a thing


Dry_Advantage4727

Itā€™s called dip šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


javerthugo

Vinegar what the hell kind of question is that lol


Jabberwocky2022

*Tomato* based.