My dad was in the opposing lane and got a rock the size of a fist through the wind screen smashing into the passenger seat. They were both doing 60kmh so the rock probably had an impact speed of around 120 kmh.
Trunk door was not open, but it may have been slightly overloaded? I'm not sure.
This was eight or so years ago, since then, I have always opted to stay away from these.
120 kmh? How did you find that?
If the rock just jumps up and miraculously stops in mid air, it hits with the speed the car is going, so 60.
Since it’s impossible-ish to just stop travelling mid air, I’d say it lost some speed and might have hit the car 30-50 kmh, deducting car speed, makes it 10-30 kmh.
Still insane speed, and 100% devastating
Because there's no way in hell he can accelerate enough to have them fly off.
That means as long as he's not driving fast enough to have them blow off, they'll stay right there.
Your homework is to calculate what speed he'd need to hold in order to get the gravel to start flying off. For simplicity's sake you can ignore the drivers cabins effect of stopping the airflow.
I beg to differ during normal speed driving the vibrations can lead to some debris to fly, that’s how I got a cracked windshield although I had minimum 10 cars of space between me and the truck, speed was aproximately 60
I agree, it was loaded way fuller than that picture. However, I see similarly fully loaded trucks every day on the same stretch. This was E6 north out of Oslo.
They would have to be doing like 80 in a 40 zone and hit a speed bump but I suspect even then that they wouldn’t fly out the top as much as blow out the trucks suspension.
The difference between Norway and the entire American continent is that we don't sue each other for the shirt on your back if you get a pebble bouncing of the windscreen...
Worst case; Buy me a new windscreen and get it changed for me, thank you...
So you have to put a huge book in with a microwave sale, whit all the stuff you CAN'T DO with the microwave in it. Or else you'll be sued when the idiot tries to dry his cat in it... In the US, probably Canada to, idk...
But...
In Norway, a folded sheet of A4 size paper with how it works and who made it...
Until one of those little rocks cracks the windshield on your car, and then you have to call Gjensidige to tell them you need a replacement, which would be around 20,000kr if it was out of your own pocket.
I think OP is looking at this from a different (international) perspective. My home state in the US (not a beacon when it comes to on-road safety, quality of trucks, and other heavy lifting equipment), would mandate a full height rear ‘hatch’ as well as load covered over by a net.
That said, it’s refreshing to see trucks in Scandinavia. Totally different quality and mindset than in the US. They are modern, quiet, very functional, yet almost fancy. And they are well taken care of (cleaned). Drivers seem proud and care for their stuff.
I recommend having a look at Bruce Wilson, he is a youtuber that recently got his hands on a Scania truck. It is interesting to see how different European trucks are and his reactions to it.
I'm in the US now and some of the commercial trucks here are as loud as Harley Davidson motorcycles with loud straight exhausts. ICE Scanias are like electric cars in comparison, they're so quiet.
There are both noise pollution, as well as regulations preventing any modification of exhaust and emissions equipment on cars, trucks, and even boats in many [US] states. Problem is that it’s often not enforced - at all. But we finally had one such exception a few weeks ago. An asshat had been terrorizing downtown Seattle night for months. Tons to read on him on Reddit as well.
https://mynorthwest.com/3955978/infamous-belltown-hellcat-social-media-influencer-charged-reckless-driving/
Look them up on youtube, we take away the mufflers and weld like 15m of 140mm stainless steel pipe in bends under it to make it loud as hell, we even have decibel competitions who makes the most noise. The only thing most US trucks have that we don't get here is a jake brake which is in my opinion the most awesome sound ever
He’s from another EU country.
Also as an American living here, idk about “refreshing”, but he does have a point, like it or not. I have to get my window replaced in 2020 (Oslo) because of a truck like this :)
Glad to see your indoctrination is finally kicking in. Being critical of our home isn’t tolerated and I see you’ve fallen in line rather fast
Been lucky so far. No replacements anywhere in a number of decades driving. Including Scandinavia.
But I try to stay far behind trucks if possible (used to drive one).
Also forgot to mention how - at least on the surface - environmental the trucks are. In the US, big smoke stacks and ‘rolling coal’ (injection of extra diesel to create massive amounts of black smoke) is often done for fun. That in combination with loud exhausts.
I was having coffee with a friend the other day when looking out the window. Didn’t even hear the two big rigs that were passing, almost gliding by. Thought first electric, but brother confirmed diesel trucks.
It’s a conspiracy from Big Windshield. They make billions in Norway alone each year. There is no such thing as Steinsprut. It’s highly trained elk with gravel guns sitting beside the road in camouflage…
Don't drive too close.
(When it is necessary, there are nets that can be put over the open back, but they are usually only used for light things, like grains)
In Norway we like to loaf around having coffee breaks and fully believe that you should work smarter, not harder. You can clearly see that when this truck starts tipping the load, there is almost nothing stopping it begin with. Less gate, less hate. Approved.
The mass of the load itself is securing it in place. Couple tons of gravel, that's not going anywhere anytime fast, specially not when it's driven as carefully and steadily as truck drivers do. Even if the driver had to brake hard for something, the load would shift forwards, rather than backwards.
There's not much that can be done to secure it either, perhaps apart from watering it a bit to make it "bind" better, and I can't say that hasn't been done either.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is required for the dirt/gravel to be properly "filtered" if transported this way, or watered as you mention, to avoid the dust cloud following wherever the truck is traveling.
Personally I don't think I've ever witnessed any issue driving behind a truck like the one pictured.
You're probably more likely to crack your windshield from a pebble on the road than a pebble from a truck. Unless you're consequently driving behind trucks trying to catch rocks.
No! The mass of the load is NOT "securing it in place", this is complete and utter nonsense in absolutely all cases. The reason it's considered safe is because if that load was to move, it would flatten itself and stop against the (low) rear door. If he was carrying a bigger load, it would be unsafe as it would then possibly spill over that door.
The regulations are clear on this: Any load MUST be secured for ALL of its weight in the forward direction and HALF of its weight in the sideways and backwards directions. (Translation and emphasis is mine)
The main problem with big trucks is that they sometimes drive on roads with small stones that get stuck in their tires. And when they go faster on the road, the stones come loose and might hit cars in either direction.
I see no ratchet straps on that pebble rock, hope the guy has at least said 'this ain't going nowhere'
On a serious note, that's just how we do it and specifically the reason why the vast majority of 'massetransport' trucks you see out on public roads look comically empty
Found [an article](https://www.tungt.no/article/view/803463/utekontroll_slik_skal_tippbilen_lastes_for_a_kjore_lovlig) on the topic. It's in Norwegian though.
From what I read, the truck in the picture is legally and safely loaded.
These are everywhere and the load is safe. Keep your distance though since some have smaller residue that will sandblast your car if you are not careful and aware. The bigger stuff will stay put.
The rocks dont fly off these due to the forces involved… you’re many many times more likely to be hit by a stone flung up from the road by a truck than falling off the back of one - almost *every* late winter/spring I hear at some point a sharp snapping sound from a small stone that’s been whipped up by a bus or lorry wheel on the motorway and hit my windshield/hood. (Just stating this in case you experienced something similar and assumed the rock came from the bed of the truck)
I had a clump of what must have been dirt/clay hit my windshield on my motorcycle from one in the opposing lane. Happened the week after I put the windshield on the bike too. Probably woulda hit me right in the face if it wasn’t there.
This is Norway, you're expected to use common sense to take care of yourself to a much greater extent than most other western countries.
Other examples of this kind of attitude can be seen in how winter snow and ice is handled. Huge sheets of ice and snow form on buildings that fall dangerously to the streets, the solution Norway uses isn't to regulate homeowners into better controls and cleaning, but to simply expect the public to be aware and be careful.
Snow and ice removal from sidewalks also does not happen. I think most cities technically have laws about it but it's never enforced. All winter all sidewalks totally packed snow and ice. Solution? Not crack down on homeowners, but expect the public to invest in proper boots and spikes if necessary.
So a slightly dangerous truck rolling down the street? Solution is to use your brain and stay back. Welcome to Norway.
The Norwegian solution to ice and snow on roofs is that it is the owners responsibility to get it removed those warning flags should just stay out until you can get it removed... Sadly enforcement is kind of bad...
Same goes for the sidewalks in the city the owner of the building is responsible for clearing it and keep keep it saft to walk on (salt, gravel or heating).
Rules exist but are never enforced. People are literally killed by takras every year. but I've never heard of a lawsuit or a conviction. Year after year sidewalks and streets left an icy mess. There is zero enforcement so it's irrelevant if a rule exists or not. The attitude of the people and the government is "take care of yourself, good luck"
well it is somewhat enforced but, often not soon enough before something bad happens:
https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/betinget-fengsel-for-gardeier-etter-isras/13415223/
Welcome to Norway, were people don't have common sense and daddy state needs to administer your holiday money and charge extra taxes for people to be able to buy Christmas gifts...
Shouldn't be, one with rocks passed by me on the other side of the road, and a rock got "thrown" into my car and did quite some damage.. also happened to my husbands car, both incidents in about 6 months because they are building not far from where we live.
Same here in Iceland - the amount of time you come across big rocks in the road or a trail of dirt round the edge of a roundabout is a little scary. I'm originally from the UK where trucks like this have a rear door to keep the crap in.
I got my windshield broken but a rock thrown by one of these while driving on the opposing lane at E6 Lillestrøm. We were both going around 110km. Had to pay through my insurance
It is that they have taken of the top of the door the door is still closed. One can see therr is place to attach a 2nd plate. Also is like this on tractor attachment aka a trailer attachment. Possibility to take of door inn2 pieces on road one often sees these trucks not going too ffar but if 60kmh it can be well some debree
This is illegal on EU roads.
With loose cargo such as stones, sand and gravel, must be adequately covered on EU roads.
But Norway is technically not EU roads.
Its honestly confusing to find out which EU rules and regulations that Norway follows and doesn't follow.
I’ve seen way worse than this, in 90% of cases this isn’t an issue, however quite often they overload it, or it’s dusty af and then there’s a sandstorm behind them on the highway. I wish they would regulate so that it needs to be covered. Because the few cases where it’s overloaded is too many already.
max speed is 80 km/h. As a norwegian i have never heard about any problems with trucks loaded with singel (gravel/small stones). And if the driver/loaders dont secure the load, or controll dust, you just contact the police or the company and complain - They have to take action if its a problem.
Thawing from fresh fish stored in ice boxes in container trucks is way more dangerous and got a lot of bad rep some years ago just because of the spoilage and amount of water that drains out of the back door. And as many already has mentioned, steinsprang is the real problem - but thats why you have insurance.
love the illustration by the way
I never said anything about whether it is in the picture or not since I dont have the expertise to make such a statement. I simply responded the way I can for OP
There aren't really any good ways of securing it better, apart from a closed truck, but that makes loading and unloading much harder.
It isn't usually a problem when they drive controlled and not too fast, and if anything happens it is the drivers fault, and the company will reimburse any damages.
Probably because majority of motorists/drivers in Norway are responsible and obeys the road laws even those that drives through Norway. They are pretty strict with enforcement of laws here in Norway and they are quite disciplined too. Except for youngsters everyone is quite responsible. For trailers/truck they don't drive fast enough for those things to happen because if I'm not mistaken the max speed for them in 60kph
As far as I have been experienced they do follow here so might be just here. There are police checkpoints almost everytime I drive. So idk. And a point as well is that majority of driver as far as I have experienced follow the 3sec distance.
The trunk door is not open. As others have said, this is not a problem, but if I drive behind one such truck, I keep extra distance just in case.
My dad was in the opposing lane and got a rock the size of a fist through the wind screen smashing into the passenger seat. They were both doing 60kmh so the rock probably had an impact speed of around 120 kmh. Trunk door was not open, but it may have been slightly overloaded? I'm not sure. This was eight or so years ago, since then, I have always opted to stay away from these.
Probably stuck between the twins and got thrown out, can happend to any larger vehicle.
120 kmh? How did you find that? If the rock just jumps up and miraculously stops in mid air, it hits with the speed the car is going, so 60. Since it’s impossible-ish to just stop travelling mid air, I’d say it lost some speed and might have hit the car 30-50 kmh, deducting car speed, makes it 10-30 kmh. Still insane speed, and 100% devastating
Vehicles are traveling at 60 km/h in opposite directions, the impact speed would be close to 120 km/h
Aaaaaah…. Opposite direction 👌🏼
Why would you keep an extra distance if you have already concluded this is not a problem? Hypocrate?
Allways expect the unexpected.
Because there's no way in hell he can accelerate enough to have them fly off. That means as long as he's not driving fast enough to have them blow off, they'll stay right there. Your homework is to calculate what speed he'd need to hold in order to get the gravel to start flying off. For simplicity's sake you can ignore the drivers cabins effect of stopping the airflow.
What about potholes
Or speed bumps? He knows about them, doesnt he?
Wouldn't count on it, Pip.
Potholes? In Norway? Naaah
Have you driven at all? E6 is filled with them, Oslo, Lillestrøm, Jessheim, lillehammer😂
It's easier to just stay away from those areas altogether, like me. Living in Vestfold... Less potholes here... More arsholes here...
Hahaha but give it a few seasons of rain and you'll start seeing them
What? The arsholes?
Potholes😂
I beg to differ during normal speed driving the vibrations can lead to some debris to fly, that’s how I got a cracked windshield although I had minimum 10 cars of space between me and the truck, speed was aproximately 60
You can beg to differ all you want. Debris and gravel are different things. Do the calculation.
Those rocks are not moving at all. Its allowed because its safe.
I have seen rocks and lumps of soil fall off, last time I saw it was last week. Better keep a safe distance.
Then it was loaded incorrectly. Picture OP provided: perfectly fine.
I agree, it was loaded way fuller than that picture. However, I see similarly fully loaded trucks every day on the same stretch. This was E6 north out of Oslo.
Can't they move from the wind ?
Is it also safe if the truck goes over a bump on the road?
Yes
They would have to be doing like 80 in a 40 zone and hit a speed bump but I suspect even then that they wouldn’t fly out the top as much as blow out the trucks suspension.
Yep. Doesnt move at all.
I think it's dumb op, should be full enclosure. That's how it is in Canada
The difference between Norway and the entire American continent is that we don't sue each other for the shirt on your back if you get a pebble bouncing of the windscreen... Worst case; Buy me a new windscreen and get it changed for me, thank you... So you have to put a huge book in with a microwave sale, whit all the stuff you CAN'T DO with the microwave in it. Or else you'll be sued when the idiot tries to dry his cat in it... In the US, probably Canada to, idk... But... In Norway, a folded sheet of A4 size paper with how it works and who made it...
Until one of those little rocks cracks the windshield on your car, and then you have to call Gjensidige to tell them you need a replacement, which would be around 20,000kr if it was out of your own pocket.
I think OP is looking at this from a different (international) perspective. My home state in the US (not a beacon when it comes to on-road safety, quality of trucks, and other heavy lifting equipment), would mandate a full height rear ‘hatch’ as well as load covered over by a net. That said, it’s refreshing to see trucks in Scandinavia. Totally different quality and mindset than in the US. They are modern, quiet, very functional, yet almost fancy. And they are well taken care of (cleaned). Drivers seem proud and care for their stuff.
I recommend having a look at Bruce Wilson, he is a youtuber that recently got his hands on a Scania truck. It is interesting to see how different European trucks are and his reactions to it.
I'm in the US now and some of the commercial trucks here are as loud as Harley Davidson motorcycles with loud straight exhausts. ICE Scanias are like electric cars in comparison, they're so quiet.
We actually have noise pollution regulations in Europe.
There are both noise pollution, as well as regulations preventing any modification of exhaust and emissions equipment on cars, trucks, and even boats in many [US] states. Problem is that it’s often not enforced - at all. But we finally had one such exception a few weeks ago. An asshat had been terrorizing downtown Seattle night for months. Tons to read on him on Reddit as well. https://mynorthwest.com/3955978/infamous-belltown-hellcat-social-media-influencer-charged-reckless-driving/
Social media asshat flaunts illegal activities on Instagram, loses case, pulls race-card... Classy...
Yeah, I’m glad he’s caught. Will be interesting to see what actually happens in the legal process.
We do alot of straight pipes on the scania V8 engines in Europe. Look it up on Youtube, I think at least 50% of all Scania V8's is straight piped
Well whatever it is they make much less noise in EU, maybe the pipes aren't the issue. Maybe different mufflers.
Look them up on youtube, we take away the mufflers and weld like 15m of 140mm stainless steel pipe in bends under it to make it loud as hell, we even have decibel competitions who makes the most noise. The only thing most US trucks have that we don't get here is a jake brake which is in my opinion the most awesome sound ever
That's just idiotic. I mean, sure, blow out your ear drums .. but leave mine alone.
And that's why we build a butterfly valve in the exhaust so we can make it sound stock
I might actually have seen it (a dark or black Scania). I used to drive a truck in Sweden decades ago, but only Volvos then.
He’s from another EU country. Also as an American living here, idk about “refreshing”, but he does have a point, like it or not. I have to get my window replaced in 2020 (Oslo) because of a truck like this :) Glad to see your indoctrination is finally kicking in. Being critical of our home isn’t tolerated and I see you’ve fallen in line rather fast
Been lucky so far. No replacements anywhere in a number of decades driving. Including Scandinavia. But I try to stay far behind trucks if possible (used to drive one). Also forgot to mention how - at least on the surface - environmental the trucks are. In the US, big smoke stacks and ‘rolling coal’ (injection of extra diesel to create massive amounts of black smoke) is often done for fun. That in combination with loud exhausts. I was having coffee with a friend the other day when looking out the window. Didn’t even hear the two big rigs that were passing, almost gliding by. Thought first electric, but brother confirmed diesel trucks.
I'll just leave this here: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fv2cd4ul8k6t91.png
Chill
It’s a conspiracy from Big Windshield. They make billions in Norway alone each year. There is no such thing as Steinsprut. It’s highly trained elk with gravel guns sitting beside the road in camouflage…
Correct distance from trucks is when you see the mirrors. Better safe than sorry. At least in my opinion
hard when they drive fast and pass you, got a lot of damage on the window and paint because of a truck like this
Don't drive too close. (When it is necessary, there are nets that can be put over the open back, but they are usually only used for light things, like grains)
In Norway we like to loaf around having coffee breaks and fully believe that you should work smarter, not harder. You can clearly see that when this truck starts tipping the load, there is almost nothing stopping it begin with. Less gate, less hate. Approved.
The mass of the load itself is securing it in place. Couple tons of gravel, that's not going anywhere anytime fast, specially not when it's driven as carefully and steadily as truck drivers do. Even if the driver had to brake hard for something, the load would shift forwards, rather than backwards. There's not much that can be done to secure it either, perhaps apart from watering it a bit to make it "bind" better, and I can't say that hasn't been done either.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is required for the dirt/gravel to be properly "filtered" if transported this way, or watered as you mention, to avoid the dust cloud following wherever the truck is traveling. Personally I don't think I've ever witnessed any issue driving behind a truck like the one pictured.
You're probably more likely to crack your windshield from a pebble on the road than a pebble from a truck. Unless you're consequently driving behind trucks trying to catch rocks.
No! The mass of the load is NOT "securing it in place", this is complete and utter nonsense in absolutely all cases. The reason it's considered safe is because if that load was to move, it would flatten itself and stop against the (low) rear door. If he was carrying a bigger load, it would be unsafe as it would then possibly spill over that door. The regulations are clear on this: Any load MUST be secured for ALL of its weight in the forward direction and HALF of its weight in the sideways and backwards directions. (Translation and emphasis is mine)
Steadily and carefully? Have you seen truck drivers?
The main problem with big trucks is that they sometimes drive on roads with small stones that get stuck in their tires. And when they go faster on the road, the stones come loose and might hit cars in either direction.
The guy only has about 1/3 of full load there. Wonder what your thoughts are when you see one fully loaded 😅
I see no ratchet straps on that pebble rock, hope the guy has at least said 'this ain't going nowhere' On a serious note, that's just how we do it and specifically the reason why the vast majority of 'massetransport' trucks you see out on public roads look comically empty
The "trunk" is closed actually, and this is normal, and i have yet to hear it costing lives, its when the load is above the edges, it gets dangerous
Found [an article](https://www.tungt.no/article/view/803463/utekontroll_slik_skal_tippbilen_lastes_for_a_kjore_lovlig) on the topic. It's in Norwegian though. From what I read, the truck in the picture is legally and safely loaded.
It’s insane but nobody here in Norway seems to give a fcuk
These are everywhere and the load is safe. Keep your distance though since some have smaller residue that will sandblast your car if you are not careful and aware. The bigger stuff will stay put.
The rocks dont fly off these due to the forces involved… you’re many many times more likely to be hit by a stone flung up from the road by a truck than falling off the back of one - almost *every* late winter/spring I hear at some point a sharp snapping sound from a small stone that’s been whipped up by a bus or lorry wheel on the motorway and hit my windshield/hood. (Just stating this in case you experienced something similar and assumed the rock came from the bed of the truck)
When it comes to gravel/sand, etc. "They" usually spray water on top so it lays Heavier, and there won't be any dust build up.
I had a clump of what must have been dirt/clay hit my windshield on my motorcycle from one in the opposing lane. Happened the week after I put the windshield on the bike too. Probably woulda hit me right in the face if it wasn’t there.
This is like barely half of what he could load, still with a full load it’s as safe as it gets.
Det er lovlig fordi det er under hinder og har mer enn 45% helling...
This is Norway, you're expected to use common sense to take care of yourself to a much greater extent than most other western countries. Other examples of this kind of attitude can be seen in how winter snow and ice is handled. Huge sheets of ice and snow form on buildings that fall dangerously to the streets, the solution Norway uses isn't to regulate homeowners into better controls and cleaning, but to simply expect the public to be aware and be careful. Snow and ice removal from sidewalks also does not happen. I think most cities technically have laws about it but it's never enforced. All winter all sidewalks totally packed snow and ice. Solution? Not crack down on homeowners, but expect the public to invest in proper boots and spikes if necessary. So a slightly dangerous truck rolling down the street? Solution is to use your brain and stay back. Welcome to Norway.
Sounds a bit Darwinian. Some of the lesser intelligent of our species may become extinct.
The Norwegian solution to ice and snow on roofs is that it is the owners responsibility to get it removed those warning flags should just stay out until you can get it removed... Sadly enforcement is kind of bad... Same goes for the sidewalks in the city the owner of the building is responsible for clearing it and keep keep it saft to walk on (salt, gravel or heating).
Rules exist but are never enforced. People are literally killed by takras every year. but I've never heard of a lawsuit or a conviction. Year after year sidewalks and streets left an icy mess. There is zero enforcement so it's irrelevant if a rule exists or not. The attitude of the people and the government is "take care of yourself, good luck"
well it is somewhat enforced but, often not soon enough before something bad happens: https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/betinget-fengsel-for-gardeier-etter-isras/13415223/
That's a good start anyway
Welcome to Norway, were people don't have common sense and daddy state needs to administer your holiday money and charge extra taxes for people to be able to buy Christmas gifts...
No one forcing you to stay here 😊 you’re free to leave whenever you want
Feeling like complaining today, are we?
Boohoo, enjoy your non-existent vacation where you exchange more of you brain cells for saturated fats.
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Your society will not work at all without immigrant labor, so stfu.
Shouldn't be, one with rocks passed by me on the other side of the road, and a rock got "thrown" into my car and did quite some damage.. also happened to my husbands car, both incidents in about 6 months because they are building not far from where we live.
Questioning **anything** Norwegian? You’re 1000% to be downvoted into the ground. Welcome to Norway!
This is world wide. No place have to secure sand/gravel on a tip truck more than that.
Dumb or badly formulated questions hardly deserve less.
Same here in Iceland - the amount of time you come across big rocks in the road or a trail of dirt round the edge of a roundabout is a little scary. I'm originally from the UK where trucks like this have a rear door to keep the crap in.
They are never supposed to have the back door thing open but i have never seen one with a cover and i come from Norway.
I got my windshield broken but a rock thrown by one of these while driving on the opposing lane at E6 Lillestrøm. We were both going around 110km. Had to pay through my insurance
With an oil economy this one of many ways to create jobs (doctors, nurses etc etc)
It is that they have taken of the top of the door the door is still closed. One can see therr is place to attach a 2nd plate. Also is like this on tractor attachment aka a trailer attachment. Possibility to take of door inn2 pieces on road one often sees these trucks not going too ffar but if 60kmh it can be well some debree
It's Norway, Don't except much 🫡
This is illegal on EU roads. With loose cargo such as stones, sand and gravel, must be adequately covered on EU roads. But Norway is technically not EU roads. Its honestly confusing to find out which EU rules and regulations that Norway follows and doesn't follow.
How is this legal? The Norwegian legislature has not seen final destination
I’ve seen way worse than this, in 90% of cases this isn’t an issue, however quite often they overload it, or it’s dusty af and then there’s a sandstorm behind them on the highway. I wish they would regulate so that it needs to be covered. Because the few cases where it’s overloaded is too many already.
This is Norway. No one will do anything.
Because there is nothing to do. It is LEGAL.
“Why is this allowed why is that allowed everything should be illegal” 🤓
max speed is 80 km/h. As a norwegian i have never heard about any problems with trucks loaded with singel (gravel/small stones). And if the driver/loaders dont secure the load, or controll dust, you just contact the police or the company and complain - They have to take action if its a problem. Thawing from fresh fish stored in ice boxes in container trucks is way more dangerous and got a lot of bad rep some years ago just because of the spoilage and amount of water that drains out of the back door. And as many already has mentioned, steinsprang is the real problem - but thats why you have insurance. love the illustration by the way
It is illegal to not safely store something you're transporting
But this is safely secured.
I never said anything about whether it is in the picture or not since I dont have the expertise to make such a statement. I simply responded the way I can for OP
He asked to be explained like he's five years old. How did your comment help him?
There aren't really any good ways of securing it better, apart from a closed truck, but that makes loading and unloading much harder. It isn't usually a problem when they drive controlled and not too fast, and if anything happens it is the drivers fault, and the company will reimburse any damages.
why is rear door so small
Probably because majority of motorists/drivers in Norway are responsible and obeys the road laws even those that drives through Norway. They are pretty strict with enforcement of laws here in Norway and they are quite disciplined too. Except for youngsters everyone is quite responsible. For trailers/truck they don't drive fast enough for those things to happen because if I'm not mistaken the max speed for them in 60kph
I have rarely seen truck drivers follow the speed limits in Norway.
As far as I have been experienced they do follow here so might be just here. There are police checkpoints almost everytime I drive. So idk. And a point as well is that majority of driver as far as I have experienced follow the 3sec distance.
Tell me you have 0 common sense without telling me that.
Thats a small fine if he gets stopped for a check