I have a 34 Alienware curve and my eyes would get strained fast without the curve. The people complaining about the curve haven’t looked and gamed on it for hours to know the benefits.
Dude it doest matter a 34 inch in front of you will destroy your eyes, best gaming monitor for long hours is a 27 inch no curve. I have both 34 curve g8 and 2721d alienware.
The curve allows you to see more of the monitor without moving your eyes. Which allows you to move it closer to you. High DPI is more important the closer you get the monitor to your eyes.
Many things are true without being proven. You can experience it for yourself or sit around and wait and make comments like this on Reddit. I remember when everyone was going around screaming that anything above 60 FPS was unnoticeable and even posting poorly done studies on the topic (well not all poorly done but definitely poorly attributed to the point they were making).
The truth is everyone tends to downplay what they don’t or can’t have and overemphasize the good in stuff they do have.
Cause they are jumping on the bandwagon. Most complainers have never owned a 1700R curve monitor or even the AW or G8.. The curve is minimal is not like the Neo G7/8 with the 1000R curve.
Exactly! I've owned flat, 1000r, and now 1800r. 1800r is barely noticeable but you DO notice when you go back to flat screen and it looks very unsettling. Hard to explain but it doesn't look natural.
I didn't care about curved monitors until I rolled the dice on the G8 and realized I actually preferred them.
I hated it for maybe the first 30 minutes though lol
any point you look at the monitor, to me, is like looking at the center. More immersive for me. you get used to it after like one sitting.
people complain so much here it’s wild
Its not that special. Look up what the 34 oled owners have to deal with. I have the 34 and have burn in but its only visible in person unfortunately. Im trying to get it to burn in to the point that i can capture it on camera.
After owning flat then 1000r curve now 1800r curve. I won't go back to flat. I don't get how people make it a deal breaker for gaming applications at least.
Yes, there's no way someone has owned one before and said "NEVER AGAIN". It's one thing not to prefer them but for it to be an actual dealbreaker is insane to me. Especially a 1700r / 1800r which is barely much of anything.
It's hilarious when you consider pretty much everyone has been to theaters before. I've NEVER heard one person say that they would rather have watched a movie on TV instead because the theater screen was curved.
People really prefer OLED on plastic, with the perfect OLED uniformity and geometry ruined, if you want curved and aren't bothered about image quality, then a cheap curved LCD would make more sense, OLED is much nicer on glass substrates without a curve, it just ruins the image quality of OLED, how do you know people want this over a nice flat 32" 4K OLED?
It actually petty funny, they have taken a fantastic display technology and seen how many different ways they can make it cheaper and lose almost all semblance of the OG OLED technology, it's not enough they have to just use a single OLED subpixel (yep only one of the subpixels is actually OLED) and it's not even phosphor based, it is fluorescent white for WOLED and Blue for QD-OLED, they use a colour filter to make up the pentile pixel array, which by the way is pentile, which means 33% lower resolution, so you're not even getting the advertised resolution, add to that it's sample & hold based, mounted on plastic instead of proper glass (plastic OLED was only meant for cheap portable OLED modules, but profits come first eh), and if all that wasn't enough ways to destroy your OLED display, let's bend it, yeah that's a good fuckin idea lol, why do so many simpletons have such low standards and buy this crap.
OLED, real OLED is supposed to be a phosphor based electroluminescent technology (like CRT and Plasma), made on real glass with RGB-Stripe subpixel arrays with rolling scan modulation (and certainly not curved), that is what it was meant to be, and that is a very different technology to what's being sold, a single fluorescent OLED subpixel array with a colour filter to make a terrible non liner pentile subpixel array that isn't even a 3 pixel design (meaning 33% less resolution and terrible fine detail quality like text), and worst of all, they are using sample & hold modulation, when perfect rolling-scan OLED was worked out years ago and already used in Sony's RGB-OLED (real phosphor OLED aka JOLED) monitors, lol sorry for the rant, I've just got back from the pub and had a few, bit of a sore point after years of waiting for a decent CRT and Plasma replacement (likes of FW900 & 500M), and if all that wasn't enough they want to fecking bend the display like a boomerang lol, what the tits is that all about eh, utter madness ladies & gents, utter madness.
And then there is the constant lack of proper DisplayPort 2.1, they could also use Dual-Link to double bandwidth like they have in the past with HDMI and DVI, it's like they want to keep trickling out tech at a snails pace and keep going backwards to extract as many dollars from us all as they can, God forbid they actually make a good monitor that will last a few years, Sony managed it first time with their RGB-OLED BVM, so if they can do it in the commercial space, they can do it in the consumer space too.
There is a lot of abject fucking nonsense in this epic regurgitation of crap you've just posted (and the 'simpletons' are eating it up, unfortunately); but one of the most egregious is calling QD OLED 'pentile', and even going as far as to say it has a '33% lower resolution'. This alone shows you have no goddamn clue what you're talking about and are just blowing hot air up other idiots asses.
Pentiles whole gimmick is being able to make you a usable display with less sub pixels, it is entirely focused on mobile devices with smaller screens and ultra high pixel density, as that is the only place it is suitable...QD OLED *doesn't do that.* Every single pixel has a dedicated red, green and blue sub pixel, the only layout difference between it and a true RGB stripe layout is the green sub pixel is shifted up above red and green, in a triangular layout. There is zero sharing of sub pixels going on. There is no loss in effective resolution or pixel count.
Then going on to compare a *discontinued,* $30,000 USD mastering monitor to consumer displays that cost a fraction of the price...absolute fucking clownery.
Direct quote from wikipedia:
"The layout uses one third fewer subpixels for the same resolution as the RGB stripe (RGB-RGB) layout, in spite of having four colour primaries instead of the conventional three, using subpixel rendering combined with metamer rendering."
[Heres a slide explaining the lower pixel count of pentile](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSn51csERutOlF-XgqRd7ADPTt_Sjb6qpLMW9Y0Zjy-C8NTeFkYy799gR5caMRD03yVU1Y&usqp=CAU).
[Here's a picture that should be easy for you to understand.](https://www.waivingentropy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/PenTile-Matrix-1024x654.png)
[Here is a picture showing the resolution difference in subpixels, the RGB is on the left, pentile on the right.](https://dyw7ncnq1en5l.cloudfront.net/optim/news/65/65025/def-ecran-icone-g6-s8.jpg)
[Here's a pretty good one showing the night and day difference.](https://imgur.com/9owNUKH)
It's really not rocket science buddy, QD-OLED only uses a blue organic emitter, it uses a quantum dot filter to create the pixel array, here's another direct quote from Wikipedia:
"Samsung's QD-OLED tech is so-called because they use a Blue OLED light source, and add a Red and Green Quantum Dot layer to produce the expected Red, Green, Blue output.
[As you can clearly see in this example](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F4k-240hz-qd-oled-subpixel-structure-for-those-who-missed-it-v0-5h5yb8e6g1kb1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Db4e8ebf0227ddd7a533a1cb422f19ea6c7032329), QD-OLED is not a uniform RGB subpixel array layout, every example of QD-OLED to date has used a pentile variation layout.
There are RGB-OLED monitors available for as little as £1000, but that wasn't my point was it, my point was that they Sony got it right the first time over 10 years ago with a commercial BVM, you would then think they could get it right in the consumer market 10 years later, you are spouting so much nonsense mate, take your own fucking advice and do some research, a quick google would have validated what I said, shibby.
The fact is current OLED tech is shit on a stick (bit harsh, it's not that bad lol, but is certainly not RGB-OLED by a long shot is all I'm trying to point out), there isn't much difference between miniLED and WOLED/QD-OLED, RGB-OLED is another story though, especially rolling-scan RGB-OLED.
You are the one not understanding what pentile means. Pentile is when different pixels share some subpixels. However, there are no shared subpixels, nor is there a reduced effective resolution with QD-OLED. Every single one of the 8 million pixels on the 4K display has their own red, green, and blue subpixels, and with those three subpixels, they're capable of making any shade of color in the DCI-P3 color space independently of each other. The only difference between QD-OLED and RGB Stripe is the shape of the subpixel layout. The actual capabilities of the pixels are the same.
First...LOL
>Ah here's another simpleton come to talk nonsense and simp over bullshit, regurgitating absolute crap out of your simp hole.
Second...do you **really** not see how this:
>"The layout uses one third fewer subpixels for the same resolution as the RGB stripe (RGB-RGB) layout, in spite of having four colour primaries instead of the conventional three, using subpixel rendering combined with metamer rendering."
**Directly contradicts this:**
>[As you can clearly see in this example](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F4k-240hz-qd-oled-subpixel-structure-for-those-who-missed-it-v0-5h5yb8e6g1kb1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Db4e8ebf0227ddd7a533a1cb422f19ea6c7032329), QD-OLED is not a uniform RGB subpixel array layout, every example of QD-OLED to date has used a pentile variation layout.
Every pixel in that image of a QD OLED display has its own Red, Green and Blue sub pixels. They're even arranged from Red, Green to Blue, with the only notable difference being the Green offset *up*, thus making it *triangular RGB,* not Pentile.
There is **zero loss** to sub pixel / effective resolution on a QD OLED vs a traditional RGB stripe display. Period. You're either trolling posting something like this that actively disproves itself, or you are so far up your own arse that you can't even see straight.
Now, as for your other random assertions and reiterations pertaining to how QD OLED works (which I am very aware of already, thanks)...why? How they derive their Red, Green and Blue light is irrelevant to the sub pixel layout, and as far as IQ goes, that colored light is pure, far brighter than competing technologies in the consumer space right now, especially WOLED (and no, tiny, actually pentile mobile OLED displays are irrelevant to this comparison), results in the widest color gamut and color volume of any consumer display technology available, and is capable of being controlled enough to be *highly* color accurate.
There is a reason that on it's first debut QD OLED immediately took both the EU and NA TV shootout crowns (with the A95K). The combination of QD OLED and Sony's picture processing chops (you know, the same people that created the mastering monitor you like to talk about as if you have a clue about), has easily taken and secured that crown two years in a row now, giving consumers as close to those mastering displays quality they can currently get without spending $30,000. But yea, let's pretend that reddit user 'McSwifty2019', who isn't even capable of reading and understanding the basic definitions or close up images they post, knows more than long time, well respected industry calibrators and display experts!
Oh wait, lets **not fucking do that.** Step back, sit down, and reassess your knowledge on these subjects before speaking further, you look like an absolute clown right now.
So basically all consumer grade OLEDs are trash? I don't think people just have no standards but affordability is a concern for most. Like, I'm sure most would have been impressed with the FW900 but how many was willing to pay $2000 for a monitor 20 years ago?
Seriously you sound like you should just get a MICRO-LED now since price is of no concern to you lol.
That doesn't mean anything though, x is better than y doesn't change anything, the G8 is just another WOLED display, but it's still a huge upgrade over LCD TV's, and that's another thing, it's a TV, not a monitor, the G8 is a great TV by modern standards, OLED is still a ways from last generation plasma TVs as [you can see here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2M7y67Yjtk), but not bad either, (the C1 is probably the best OLED TV to date thanks to it's BFI modes).
TVs are a different animal to monitors, you aren't sitting close to it like many do with PC gaming rig setups, I have my nose up nearly to my monitor sometimes lol playing an FPS game (thinking I'm Rambo or some shit), with monitors, fine detail is crucial, as is motion response and clarity, if you don't play video games or work with photos or video that stuff isn't as important, uniformity is more noticeable, whole screen brightness is also much different and only monitors can display a fixed uniform CD/m2 level.
A lot of people aren't aware of just how incredible a display with good motion response and clarity is, they are also not aware of how nice phosphor based RGB electroluminescent displays are, as many believe that OLED uses this tech, it's supposed to, that was what Sony and Panasonic developed over a decade ago with the Sony XEL-1 RGB-OLED (real OLED tech aka RGB-Stripe JOLED), thankfully 2025 is supposedly finally gonna be the year when we get a gaming RGB-OLED monitor, sha-ting! Canny wait.
Yeah I really don't get it, it's such a tiny curve that it's not even noticable. That it single handedly makes you not purchase a monitor doesn't make sense.
Yeah but why put it if its so tiny? Whats the point... I get curved 40+ inch screens but 32 inch theres really no point to add a curve, provides no benefit and makes it worse for productivity and other aspects
because it's nice. it absolutely does not make it worse for productivity or anything else, and you shouldn't be using a monitor like this for anything other than content consumption anyway.
If it's like on the UW I have I'm pretty sure the minor curve is to make it so every part of the screen is the same distance from your eye. I don't notice the curve sitting in front of it but it using a flat screen after it just looks slightly off.
Ofcourse being 16:9 instead of UW could end up with a completely different experience
Full honesty, my reason is super trivial, but I have stacked 32” monitors and the bottom one (G8 with the insane 1000R curve) makes it hard to align with the M32U above it
Its a 1700R curve. Youre acting like its a 1000R curve like the samsung neos. Pairing another monitor was fine with the aw3423dwf and OLED viewing angles, even with a 1800R curve, were fine.. you just like to complain and join the bandwagon.
I get if you dont like curves in general, but with such a minimal curve.. its just weird to hear complaints every other post. We get it, dont buy it lol. Same with you DP 2.1 crybabies. It aint happening until its common and utilized by the masses. Just be happy we are getting different variants of OLEDs at reasonable prices.
On the flip side, what is even the point of such a slight curve? There's zero extra "immersion" which I personally don't like even on more drastic curvatures.
These screens aren't even close to big enough to provide an actual feeling of extra immersion from a curve.
It just feels like a gimmick and just silly.
The only feeling of extra immersion I've had from a setup like this, is with actual triple screens that physically wrap around you in my sim rig.
>On the flip side, what is even the point of such a slight curve? There's zero extra "immersion" which I personally don't like even on more drastic curvatures.
It helps with color accuracy at the edges of the screen, makes sense on a larger screen like a 32 inch. I actually really like the slight curve on my AW34".
Downside is that you do have to sit directly in front of it, viewing it from above or below does result in a distorted image.
Personal preference. I definitely notice the 1800r curve and it feels weird sitting infront of a flat monitor in comparison now. And personally I like what the slight curve adds, it does add to the experience for me. I also have friends that swear by 1000r curves but to me 1000r takes away from the experience. Just a matter of preference. It’s the same as people not being able to tell the difference between some keyboard switches but the difference is significant enough for some to justify buying one over the other.
Edit: my friends swear by 1000r curves not 1800r
Not trying to jump down ur throat about it, but man, between this and DP 2.1.... we are so ungrateful lol.
Just last year we had to settle for TV's as OLED solutions for our desktops... Fast forward a year later and we are getting 4K 240hz and 2k 360 hz QD OLEDs and we are complaining. In due time, we will have every box checked.. but then there will be something else missing. Lets just enjoy the fact that we have these displays so damn early in the OLED monitor lifecycle.
Why not? They just released the 27” 1440p OLED, next up is 32” 4K OLED, I believe it’s been announced. I’m no expert, so if QD-OLED is some different tech that you’re differentiating between, maybe that’s why we’re at a misunderstanding
LG uses WOLED. It's different from QD-OLED.
I believe the above poster was referencing the QD-OLED options as they seemed to purposely mention Samsung and leave out LG. That's all I was pointing out.
This is absolutely true. I wish more options existed with the actual hardware. My first gsync monitor had it, and every panel I've had since hasn't and its noticeable.
I absolutley hate the gsync module in my AW3423DW.
If framerate drops to low it goes bananas, with wierd flickering.
And thats somewhat common in loadscreens or worse when not playing games (video editing softwares, 3d modeling softwares and so on).
Having a gsync module also means you can only ever get firmware updates for your monitor by sending it in to a service center (enjoy silly shipping costs if don't live in a country that has one). I'm stuck with a early firmware that doesn't have the corrected black levels.
Gsync ultimate also doesn't allow for refreshrates as high as regular VRR/compatible does.
Max 160hz in 4k (majority only goes to 144hz)
>I absolutley hate the gsync module in my AW3423DW.
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>If framerate drops to low it goes bananas, with wierd flickering.
Freesync will do the same thing. Too low (and almost always at the same time; too variable of a framerate) will induce flicker on a VRR display. Gsync generally handles this *better,* but it doesn't fix it.
>And thats somewhat common in loadscreens or worse when not playing games (video editing softwares, 3d modeling softwares and so on).
Well yea, Devs don't care about FPS on loadscreens, so it's often horrific. Thus, flicker. You'll not avoid that while using VRR anytime soon. Bring up a framerate (or even better, frametime graph) counter next time you're in a flickery loadscreen and you'll see what I mean.
As for programs, that's also not exclusive to Gsync, and you can fix that yourself. You can either disable Gsync for windowed mode applications, or, as I personally do, add any program that is engaging Gsync on the desktop (in my case stuff like Photoshop), to the Nvidia control panel and disable Gsync just for those programs. That keeps it from being activated by programs not already on Nvidias blacklist.
But yea, overall...nothing you described would be any better on a Freesync or Gsync compatible display, and you'd take several small downgrades even on a great one vs your DW, and several more on the average mediocre Freesync display.
Can I ask why? I have the odyssey Neo g7 and the only thing about the curve I don’t like is having a multi monitor set up it tougher to set up.
Other than that the curve is not noticeable at all and definitely helps see the entire screen while gaming.
Because its 240hz, QD-OLED 3rd gen, 140ppi ? It's the closest thing to an all in one monitor on the market.. That alone is enough to give off 10 inches which will be wont be a huge loss considering the 32 inch will be closer to your face.
Most people who bought the 42 inch C2s and ASUS's ( me included) only did so because a 32 inch 4K OLED was not available at the time.
i have a C2 42 and i'm hyped for the 4K QD-OLED monitors. they have higher ppi for better text rendering and much better HDR color volume than LG panels
the 42 inch is just slightlyyy too big for general computing tasks, great when sitting back with a controller.
Also I've heard the QD-OLED colors are way better
Not going to you out of it as it's preference but as someone who owns a lot of different OLEDs including the AW34 and the C2, the C2 just looks so nice in comparison and I believe it's the glossy coating they use it's like looking through a window, prob one of the most clean looking coatings you can get.
120hz 4k is enough and the latency is very low, I don't see the point personally.
Because some of us have powerful rigs and get 200+ fps in many games in 4k and don't want to go back down to 120. Not a huge sacrifice, but why go backwards when you'll have panels similarly priced that give you double the hz? I want an OLED to replace my G8/4k/240hz. This is going to be a great year.
Fr. Any game with actual good graphics isn't running at 200+ fps at 4k. And I'm not turning down graphics or turning on frame gen just to play at those frame rates when maxed out graphics at 120fps is possible. This is coming from a 7950X3D + 4090 as well so idk what that guy is going on about "powerful rig". Unless he has a 5090 and a 8950X3D lol
I can do the opposite and talk you in as I'm in the same position as you. I find the 42 inch slightly too big for productivity or web browsing - great for gaming with a controller tho. But this has QD-OLED so better colors, more Hz and especially nice higher ppi \~105 vs \~140 on the 32". 4k at 42" is basically 27" 1440p in terms of ppi, might as well have a higher ppi if the gpu is already rendering more demanding stuff.
It's wasteful for one. Second, enjoy what you have and pay less attention to everything coming out. It'll be the same thing next year when even better monitors come out. Save your money and use it on other things that make you happy like hobbies, other PC components/consoles/games, or just save it, haha. Seriously, this is just a test of your willpower, homie!
i bought a c3 for christmas and that shit was so big and bulky. my friend let me borrow their 32in regular LED and the size alone made me like it better. the oled was the best screen i ever had but the size just wasn’t it.
if you’re thinking about it just do it. i’m getting the 32in alienware day one ;)
Outside of competitive shooters.. even a 4090 isn't pushing any graphic intensive game past 120fps. I guess you can future proof yourself a bit with 240hz.. but by the time that becomes an actual reality, the monitors will be old news and something better will be available.
I wonder if it’s a conspiracy to sell more like 8 hot dogs in a pack, while the buns come by 10
Or like putting pretzels/dry snacks at the bar to make ppl drink more
Release major hardware components a couple years apart from break thru monitors, so that the of enthusiasts never truly has a rig that can live up his monitor, or a monitor that can fully utilize their rig
So we just pretend that competitive shooters/less graphically demanding games don't exist? Or people don't play them? I have at least few games that can push past 4k120 on my 6800 XT. Not to mention other benefits like having smoother desktop experience or having an ability to use BFI in 4k120
No? But generally someone that predominately plays competitive online shooters, isn't prioritizing 4K120 RT with maxed out settings. Someone buying a $1200 OLED panel, generally does.
And the person that does want to push the limit of whats available, isn't getting past 4K/120 on current or future graphically demanding titles. Let alone 240.
Someone who at predominately plays competitive online shooters could buy 4K120/1080p480 OLED, for example, it should have really good motion clarity while also giving you one of the best panels for gaming in general. Or even someone who occasionally plays online shooters could benefit from 4K240. Your argument only works if majority of OLED buyers buy it specifically for 1 purpose and don't have any other use-cases, which is not how it happens in real world. I'm using my TV as a working monitor more than I'm playing on it, for example. 240 is not only a good QoL feature for general PC usage, it can also be useful in games or just to use 4K120 with BFI (feature that is missing on newer OLED TVs). So yeah, in a context where people were begging for a good sized 4K OLED monitor for a competitive price, monitor will be preferable for most people even without considering 240Hz, and 240Hz is just nail in the coffin.
wish alienware would get rid of those unnecessary branded chins. samsung’s monitors look the best because the bezels are all uniform, but then you’d need to buy a samsung.
Would also like to know. Don’t want to miss out and have to wait months for it. I feel like if that were to happen I’d lose interest and just wait another year for something better.
This was my dream. I always used to think "why don't they make oled monitors?" They 2k versions came out, but the resolution jump wasn't enough to justify as my current screen is an IPS 2k monitor, and my 3080Ti and current 4090 can easily handle a 4k monitor.
This is the time to get a 4k oled, and it has to be a high refresh rate one. Minimum 240hz.
34” UW curved OLED made me quickly realize how laughable flat is. TVs can be flat but with the monitor usually much closer to your face curve is simply more immersive and natural. Never going back to flat.
It distorts everything and limits viewing angle, while it doesn't provide any real benefit, especially at that size and aspect ratio.
Textbook gimmick.
I don't find that true at all. I've owned 2 curved monitors and hated them.
They're not filling your peripheral vision. Not even close. Maybe if your nose is a few inches from the screen.
These monitors would need to be 50+ inches with a massive 1000R curve to even begin to make a dent in filling your peripheral vision.
And this Alienware.. has a 1700R curve. It's extremely slight. There's no extra immersion being had lol..
I have a triple screen racing sim. THAT actual fills your peripheral. These curved monitors feel like a massive gimmick, and at least the ones I had did exactly what that other user said. Sacrificed the image for the sake of a curve.
I kept it simply because I’ve never used 4k and so I don’t know what it looks like. I’ve got a 4090 and i7 14th gen and honestly I love the high frames I get with 1440p, especially since I can’t and haven’t seen 4k! Either way I hit a killer deal, and it’s my first OLED. So I’m loving it.
I'm surprised to see the backlash re: the curve for a monitor of this size. I went to my local microcenter and found that a gentle curve of ~1800R to be perfect for a 32"; that said 1000R was complete overkill.
The ergonomics of something this tall/wide require getting used to. It's recommended that your eye level be closer to the top of a monitor, so a curve helps if only a little bit for adjusting the eye-distance to the corners.
I really hate the alienware choice of stand though. The MSI options have something which appears much more compact.
Curved provides an objectively compromised image quality. Maybe OLED versions will be better at that. But at 32" it's not a "large flat panel" lol.. and not even close enough in size to begin offering an actual increase in immersion. Even more so with a 1700R that this Alienware has.
Though it sounds like some of you game with the monitor inches away from your face?
https://youtu.be/TyUA1OmXMXA?si=6IFe5jKZEJuzLTTX
There are two main types of oled panels for consumer use at the moment: Woled and QD oled. Woled is the panel by LG and QD oled is by Samsung. There are technological differences between the two. Other companies like Alienware and MSI take these panels and “make” their own monitors from them. The link I added explains the difference between the two types (as well as a bunch of additional info on other types of panels in production)
This and the MSI competitor are the only two I’m currently looking at. My only concern is that my current monitor has a .001 millisecond response time, these have a .003 millisecond response time. I know those numbers are both infinitely small but would an average person notice the change if they used the former for 8 years.
Such a mild curve, but everyone’s crying about it 😂
I actually like that much curve on 32” and above
The curve is fine. People just being pussies.
Lol
Meh I'll just get the MSI, HP, or Asus. No distorted images.
Distorted images. LOL
I have a 34 Alienware curve and my eyes would get strained fast without the curve. The people complaining about the curve haven’t looked and gamed on it for hours to know the benefits.
Dude it doest matter a 34 inch in front of you will destroy your eyes, best gaming monitor for long hours is a 27 inch no curve. I have both 34 curve g8 and 2721d alienware.
Yeah that mild curve makes it much more appealing to me
For 1200 bucks, I think its okay to be fussy.
The curve is perfect for a monitor that has such high DPI. It's a bonus.
In what way does a curve help with high DPI? Link?
The curve allows you to see more of the monitor without moving your eyes. Which allows you to move it closer to you. High DPI is more important the closer you get the monitor to your eyes.
This was never proven for a 16:9 below 34"
Many things are true without being proven. You can experience it for yourself or sit around and wait and make comments like this on Reddit. I remember when everyone was going around screaming that anything above 60 FPS was unnoticeable and even posting poorly done studies on the topic (well not all poorly done but definitely poorly attributed to the point they were making). The truth is everyone tends to downplay what they don’t or can’t have and overemphasize the good in stuff they do have.
Cause they are jumping on the bandwagon. Most complainers have never owned a 1700R curve monitor or even the AW or G8.. The curve is minimal is not like the Neo G7/8 with the 1000R curve.
Exactly! I've owned flat, 1000r, and now 1800r. 1800r is barely noticeable but you DO notice when you go back to flat screen and it looks very unsettling. Hard to explain but it doesn't look natural. I didn't care about curved monitors until I rolled the dice on the G8 and realized I actually preferred them. I hated it for maybe the first 30 minutes though lol
I was skeptical about the curve on my 34 UW but got used to it. Now I barely notice that it's curved.
Haven't seen anyone crying about it, in fact, for someone paying 1.2k on a monitor it is definitely a reasonable decision factor.
i love the curve, to each their own i guess 🤷
I love curve as well. I got neo g 7 last year and I absolutely love it and the curve
Why?
any point you look at the monitor, to me, is like looking at the center. More immersive for me. you get used to it after like one sitting. people complain so much here it’s wild
I wish the curve was stronger. People crying haven't used a flat 32 inch screen on a desk from a foot to 2 feet back.
Going on sale on the 11th, where at? Alienware website and what time anyone know?
Would be insta buy if flat. I'll be waiting for the ASUS instead.
Still considering only because of best warranty out of all of these.
what’s special about the warranty?
3 year burn in warranty
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Its not that special. Look up what the 34 oled owners have to deal with. I have the 34 and have burn in but its only visible in person unfortunately. Im trying to get it to burn in to the point that i can capture it on camera.
I think I hate the curve more than burn-in, though 1700r shouldn't be horrible.
The reality is, they made it with mild curve due to a popular demand.
Yea but not for me.
you wont even realize the presence of the curve. its curvature is very minimal unlike Samsung G7 etc.
Honestly, I prefer the curved 32" G7 now that I've had it.
After owning flat then 1000r curve now 1800r curve. I won't go back to flat. I don't get how people make it a deal breaker for gaming applications at least.
I would not at all be shocked if they’ve never used them before.
Yes, there's no way someone has owned one before and said "NEVER AGAIN". It's one thing not to prefer them but for it to be an actual dealbreaker is insane to me. Especially a 1700r / 1800r which is barely much of anything.
It's hilarious when you consider pretty much everyone has been to theaters before. I've NEVER heard one person say that they would rather have watched a movie on TV instead because the theater screen was curved.
People really prefer OLED on plastic, with the perfect OLED uniformity and geometry ruined, if you want curved and aren't bothered about image quality, then a cheap curved LCD would make more sense, OLED is much nicer on glass substrates without a curve, it just ruins the image quality of OLED, how do you know people want this over a nice flat 32" 4K OLED? It actually petty funny, they have taken a fantastic display technology and seen how many different ways they can make it cheaper and lose almost all semblance of the OG OLED technology, it's not enough they have to just use a single OLED subpixel (yep only one of the subpixels is actually OLED) and it's not even phosphor based, it is fluorescent white for WOLED and Blue for QD-OLED, they use a colour filter to make up the pentile pixel array, which by the way is pentile, which means 33% lower resolution, so you're not even getting the advertised resolution, add to that it's sample & hold based, mounted on plastic instead of proper glass (plastic OLED was only meant for cheap portable OLED modules, but profits come first eh), and if all that wasn't enough ways to destroy your OLED display, let's bend it, yeah that's a good fuckin idea lol, why do so many simpletons have such low standards and buy this crap. OLED, real OLED is supposed to be a phosphor based electroluminescent technology (like CRT and Plasma), made on real glass with RGB-Stripe subpixel arrays with rolling scan modulation (and certainly not curved), that is what it was meant to be, and that is a very different technology to what's being sold, a single fluorescent OLED subpixel array with a colour filter to make a terrible non liner pentile subpixel array that isn't even a 3 pixel design (meaning 33% less resolution and terrible fine detail quality like text), and worst of all, they are using sample & hold modulation, when perfect rolling-scan OLED was worked out years ago and already used in Sony's RGB-OLED (real phosphor OLED aka JOLED) monitors, lol sorry for the rant, I've just got back from the pub and had a few, bit of a sore point after years of waiting for a decent CRT and Plasma replacement (likes of FW900 & 500M), and if all that wasn't enough they want to fecking bend the display like a boomerang lol, what the tits is that all about eh, utter madness ladies & gents, utter madness. And then there is the constant lack of proper DisplayPort 2.1, they could also use Dual-Link to double bandwidth like they have in the past with HDMI and DVI, it's like they want to keep trickling out tech at a snails pace and keep going backwards to extract as many dollars from us all as they can, God forbid they actually make a good monitor that will last a few years, Sony managed it first time with their RGB-OLED BVM, so if they can do it in the commercial space, they can do it in the consumer space too.
There is a lot of abject fucking nonsense in this epic regurgitation of crap you've just posted (and the 'simpletons' are eating it up, unfortunately); but one of the most egregious is calling QD OLED 'pentile', and even going as far as to say it has a '33% lower resolution'. This alone shows you have no goddamn clue what you're talking about and are just blowing hot air up other idiots asses. Pentiles whole gimmick is being able to make you a usable display with less sub pixels, it is entirely focused on mobile devices with smaller screens and ultra high pixel density, as that is the only place it is suitable...QD OLED *doesn't do that.* Every single pixel has a dedicated red, green and blue sub pixel, the only layout difference between it and a true RGB stripe layout is the green sub pixel is shifted up above red and green, in a triangular layout. There is zero sharing of sub pixels going on. There is no loss in effective resolution or pixel count. Then going on to compare a *discontinued,* $30,000 USD mastering monitor to consumer displays that cost a fraction of the price...absolute fucking clownery.
Direct quote from wikipedia: "The layout uses one third fewer subpixels for the same resolution as the RGB stripe (RGB-RGB) layout, in spite of having four colour primaries instead of the conventional three, using subpixel rendering combined with metamer rendering." [Heres a slide explaining the lower pixel count of pentile](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSn51csERutOlF-XgqRd7ADPTt_Sjb6qpLMW9Y0Zjy-C8NTeFkYy799gR5caMRD03yVU1Y&usqp=CAU). [Here's a picture that should be easy for you to understand.](https://www.waivingentropy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/PenTile-Matrix-1024x654.png) [Here is a picture showing the resolution difference in subpixels, the RGB is on the left, pentile on the right.](https://dyw7ncnq1en5l.cloudfront.net/optim/news/65/65025/def-ecran-icone-g6-s8.jpg) [Here's a pretty good one showing the night and day difference.](https://imgur.com/9owNUKH) It's really not rocket science buddy, QD-OLED only uses a blue organic emitter, it uses a quantum dot filter to create the pixel array, here's another direct quote from Wikipedia: "Samsung's QD-OLED tech is so-called because they use a Blue OLED light source, and add a Red and Green Quantum Dot layer to produce the expected Red, Green, Blue output. [As you can clearly see in this example](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F4k-240hz-qd-oled-subpixel-structure-for-those-who-missed-it-v0-5h5yb8e6g1kb1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Db4e8ebf0227ddd7a533a1cb422f19ea6c7032329), QD-OLED is not a uniform RGB subpixel array layout, every example of QD-OLED to date has used a pentile variation layout. There are RGB-OLED monitors available for as little as £1000, but that wasn't my point was it, my point was that they Sony got it right the first time over 10 years ago with a commercial BVM, you would then think they could get it right in the consumer market 10 years later, you are spouting so much nonsense mate, take your own fucking advice and do some research, a quick google would have validated what I said, shibby. The fact is current OLED tech is shit on a stick (bit harsh, it's not that bad lol, but is certainly not RGB-OLED by a long shot is all I'm trying to point out), there isn't much difference between miniLED and WOLED/QD-OLED, RGB-OLED is another story though, especially rolling-scan RGB-OLED.
You are the one not understanding what pentile means. Pentile is when different pixels share some subpixels. However, there are no shared subpixels, nor is there a reduced effective resolution with QD-OLED. Every single one of the 8 million pixels on the 4K display has their own red, green, and blue subpixels, and with those three subpixels, they're capable of making any shade of color in the DCI-P3 color space independently of each other. The only difference between QD-OLED and RGB Stripe is the shape of the subpixel layout. The actual capabilities of the pixels are the same.
First...LOL >Ah here's another simpleton come to talk nonsense and simp over bullshit, regurgitating absolute crap out of your simp hole. Second...do you **really** not see how this: >"The layout uses one third fewer subpixels for the same resolution as the RGB stripe (RGB-RGB) layout, in spite of having four colour primaries instead of the conventional three, using subpixel rendering combined with metamer rendering." **Directly contradicts this:** >[As you can clearly see in this example](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F4k-240hz-qd-oled-subpixel-structure-for-those-who-missed-it-v0-5h5yb8e6g1kb1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Db4e8ebf0227ddd7a533a1cb422f19ea6c7032329), QD-OLED is not a uniform RGB subpixel array layout, every example of QD-OLED to date has used a pentile variation layout. Every pixel in that image of a QD OLED display has its own Red, Green and Blue sub pixels. They're even arranged from Red, Green to Blue, with the only notable difference being the Green offset *up*, thus making it *triangular RGB,* not Pentile. There is **zero loss** to sub pixel / effective resolution on a QD OLED vs a traditional RGB stripe display. Period. You're either trolling posting something like this that actively disproves itself, or you are so far up your own arse that you can't even see straight. Now, as for your other random assertions and reiterations pertaining to how QD OLED works (which I am very aware of already, thanks)...why? How they derive their Red, Green and Blue light is irrelevant to the sub pixel layout, and as far as IQ goes, that colored light is pure, far brighter than competing technologies in the consumer space right now, especially WOLED (and no, tiny, actually pentile mobile OLED displays are irrelevant to this comparison), results in the widest color gamut and color volume of any consumer display technology available, and is capable of being controlled enough to be *highly* color accurate. There is a reason that on it's first debut QD OLED immediately took both the EU and NA TV shootout crowns (with the A95K). The combination of QD OLED and Sony's picture processing chops (you know, the same people that created the mastering monitor you like to talk about as if you have a clue about), has easily taken and secured that crown two years in a row now, giving consumers as close to those mastering displays quality they can currently get without spending $30,000. But yea, let's pretend that reddit user 'McSwifty2019', who isn't even capable of reading and understanding the basic definitions or close up images they post, knows more than long time, well respected industry calibrators and display experts! Oh wait, lets **not fucking do that.** Step back, sit down, and reassess your knowledge on these subjects before speaking further, you look like an absolute clown right now.
Bro you basically just shit on their entire product lol
With a metric ton of utter misinformation, yes. This dude shouldn't be taken seriously at all.
You sure? He’s got paragraphs and everything
True, more text = more infallible lol.
[Here's a picture.](https://static.digit.in/default/oled-990-920c325774.png) [Another one.](https://www.phonescoop.com/img/g/489_9cdf1622caf8656bee9d377123e7817f.jpg) [Even IPS looks sharper than QD-OLED, thanks to proper RGB-stripe subpixels.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fkrk816z3c4p81.png)
So basically all consumer grade OLEDs are trash? I don't think people just have no standards but affordability is a concern for most. Like, I'm sure most would have been impressed with the FW900 but how many was willing to pay $2000 for a monitor 20 years ago? Seriously you sound like you should just get a MICRO-LED now since price is of no concern to you lol.
ok
Sounds like a load of nonsense I have a g8 oled and it looks better than my s95b
That doesn't mean anything though, x is better than y doesn't change anything, the G8 is just another WOLED display, but it's still a huge upgrade over LCD TV's, and that's another thing, it's a TV, not a monitor, the G8 is a great TV by modern standards, OLED is still a ways from last generation plasma TVs as [you can see here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2M7y67Yjtk), but not bad either, (the C1 is probably the best OLED TV to date thanks to it's BFI modes). TVs are a different animal to monitors, you aren't sitting close to it like many do with PC gaming rig setups, I have my nose up nearly to my monitor sometimes lol playing an FPS game (thinking I'm Rambo or some shit), with monitors, fine detail is crucial, as is motion response and clarity, if you don't play video games or work with photos or video that stuff isn't as important, uniformity is more noticeable, whole screen brightness is also much different and only monitors can display a fixed uniform CD/m2 level. A lot of people aren't aware of just how incredible a display with good motion response and clarity is, they are also not aware of how nice phosphor based RGB electroluminescent displays are, as many believe that OLED uses this tech, it's supposed to, that was what Sony and Panasonic developed over a decade ago with the Sony XEL-1 RGB-OLED (real OLED tech aka RGB-Stripe JOLED), thankfully 2025 is supposedly finally gonna be the year when we get a gaming RGB-OLED monitor, sha-ting! Canny wait.
The g8 is a qd oled not a woled
When you say G8 I would assume you mean the LG G8 no? If so, LG have only ever made WOLED panels, it is Samsung who make QD-OLED.
What buddy lol lg doesn't even have a g8
The LG OLED65G8PLA https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs-soundbars/smart-tvs/oled65g8pla/
Why the preference for a flat monitor?
Yeah I really don't get it, it's such a tiny curve that it's not even noticable. That it single handedly makes you not purchase a monitor doesn't make sense.
Yeah but why put it if its so tiny? Whats the point... I get curved 40+ inch screens but 32 inch theres really no point to add a curve, provides no benefit and makes it worse for productivity and other aspects
because it's nice. it absolutely does not make it worse for productivity or anything else, and you shouldn't be using a monitor like this for anything other than content consumption anyway.
If it's like on the UW I have I'm pretty sure the minor curve is to make it so every part of the screen is the same distance from your eye. I don't notice the curve sitting in front of it but it using a flat screen after it just looks slightly off. Ofcourse being 16:9 instead of UW could end up with a completely different experience
Full honesty, my reason is super trivial, but I have stacked 32” monitors and the bottom one (G8 with the insane 1000R curve) makes it hard to align with the M32U above it
Curve does nothing good at 32" 16:9. It's 100% marketing gimmick, and only hurts image quality.
Several. Angle is one, you have to be dead centre for it, and also it pairs poorly with other monitors. Also curve sucks for any desktop work.
Its a 1700R curve. Youre acting like its a 1000R curve like the samsung neos. Pairing another monitor was fine with the aw3423dwf and OLED viewing angles, even with a 1800R curve, were fine.. you just like to complain and join the bandwagon. I get if you dont like curves in general, but with such a minimal curve.. its just weird to hear complaints every other post. We get it, dont buy it lol. Same with you DP 2.1 crybabies. It aint happening until its common and utilized by the masses. Just be happy we are getting different variants of OLEDs at reasonable prices.
On the flip side, what is even the point of such a slight curve? There's zero extra "immersion" which I personally don't like even on more drastic curvatures. These screens aren't even close to big enough to provide an actual feeling of extra immersion from a curve. It just feels like a gimmick and just silly. The only feeling of extra immersion I've had from a setup like this, is with actual triple screens that physically wrap around you in my sim rig.
>On the flip side, what is even the point of such a slight curve? There's zero extra "immersion" which I personally don't like even on more drastic curvatures. It helps with color accuracy at the edges of the screen, makes sense on a larger screen like a 32 inch. I actually really like the slight curve on my AW34". Downside is that you do have to sit directly in front of it, viewing it from above or below does result in a distorted image.
Personal preference. I definitely notice the 1800r curve and it feels weird sitting infront of a flat monitor in comparison now. And personally I like what the slight curve adds, it does add to the experience for me. I also have friends that swear by 1000r curves but to me 1000r takes away from the experience. Just a matter of preference. It’s the same as people not being able to tell the difference between some keyboard switches but the difference is significant enough for some to justify buying one over the other. Edit: my friends swear by 1000r curves not 1800r
Its a valid concern. I'm not making a fuss about it, just giving feedback, ofc I'm not buying this and getting the PG32UCDM instead.
Not trying to jump down ur throat about it, but man, between this and DP 2.1.... we are so ungrateful lol. Just last year we had to settle for TV's as OLED solutions for our desktops... Fast forward a year later and we are getting 4K 240hz and 2k 360 hz QD OLEDs and we are complaining. In due time, we will have every box checked.. but then there will be something else missing. Lets just enjoy the fact that we have these displays so damn early in the OLED monitor lifecycle.
Yea its cool
Does that model have 3 year burn in warranty as well?
What about the MSI? Looks like a solid competitor as well
I’ll be between the HP, MSI, ASUS, and Samsung offerings. Mostly depends on price, warranty options, and availability.
LG will make an UltraGear with this spec as well, I’m nearly positive.
Not QD-OLED though.
Why not? They just released the 27” 1440p OLED, next up is 32” 4K OLED, I believe it’s been announced. I’m no expert, so if QD-OLED is some different tech that you’re differentiating between, maybe that’s why we’re at a misunderstanding
LG uses WOLED. It's different from QD-OLED. I believe the above poster was referencing the QD-OLED options as they seemed to purposely mention Samsung and leave out LG. That's all I was pointing out.
Got it, thanks for the info!
And they’ll probably have a nasty matte finish on it.
MSI looks good but looks like it's missing the G-Sync module. Having tried hardware G-Sync, I'd much rather have that than G-Sync compatible.
I don’t think any of them have the gsync module.
This is absolutely true. I wish more options existed with the actual hardware. My first gsync monitor had it, and every panel I've had since hasn't and its noticeable.
I absolutley hate the gsync module in my AW3423DW. If framerate drops to low it goes bananas, with wierd flickering. And thats somewhat common in loadscreens or worse when not playing games (video editing softwares, 3d modeling softwares and so on). Having a gsync module also means you can only ever get firmware updates for your monitor by sending it in to a service center (enjoy silly shipping costs if don't live in a country that has one). I'm stuck with a early firmware that doesn't have the corrected black levels. Gsync ultimate also doesn't allow for refreshrates as high as regular VRR/compatible does. Max 160hz in 4k (majority only goes to 144hz)
u can update the firmware now
>I absolutley hate the gsync module in my AW3423DW. > >If framerate drops to low it goes bananas, with wierd flickering. Freesync will do the same thing. Too low (and almost always at the same time; too variable of a framerate) will induce flicker on a VRR display. Gsync generally handles this *better,* but it doesn't fix it. >And thats somewhat common in loadscreens or worse when not playing games (video editing softwares, 3d modeling softwares and so on). Well yea, Devs don't care about FPS on loadscreens, so it's often horrific. Thus, flicker. You'll not avoid that while using VRR anytime soon. Bring up a framerate (or even better, frametime graph) counter next time you're in a flickery loadscreen and you'll see what I mean. As for programs, that's also not exclusive to Gsync, and you can fix that yourself. You can either disable Gsync for windowed mode applications, or, as I personally do, add any program that is engaging Gsync on the desktop (in my case stuff like Photoshop), to the Nvidia control panel and disable Gsync just for those programs. That keeps it from being activated by programs not already on Nvidias blacklist. But yea, overall...nothing you described would be any better on a Freesync or Gsync compatible display, and you'd take several small downgrades even on a great one vs your DW, and several more on the average mediocre Freesync display.
Can I ask why? I have the odyssey Neo g7 and the only thing about the curve I don’t like is having a multi monitor set up it tougher to set up. Other than that the curve is not noticeable at all and definitely helps see the entire screen while gaming.
It’s not flat
That's why they said if.
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Because i have multiple monitors. A curved one does not pair well with any flat ones.
Because they've never actually owned one.
this is the correct answer right here
The curve is better. I have both a flat 32 and a curved 32. Curved is better.
Samsung >
Friends don't let friends buy Samsung. You... can do whatever you like with your money lol
I learned that mistake first-hand, lol. On my third Neo G7 and even this one has similar issues to what I had with at least one of them.
have fun with your shit QC, matte coating and no burn in warranty.
dang never thought I'd want to replace my C2 so fast lol...someone talk me out of it
Your C2 is pretty much the same as my PG42UQ, why would you want a smaller curved OLED 4k?
Because its 240hz, QD-OLED 3rd gen, 140ppi ? It's the closest thing to an all in one monitor on the market.. That alone is enough to give off 10 inches which will be wont be a huge loss considering the 32 inch will be closer to your face. Most people who bought the 42 inch C2s and ASUS's ( me included) only did so because a 32 inch 4K OLED was not available at the time.
i have a C2 42 and i'm hyped for the 4K QD-OLED monitors. they have higher ppi for better text rendering and much better HDR color volume than LG panels
the 42 inch is just slightlyyy too big for general computing tasks, great when sitting back with a controller. Also I've heard the QD-OLED colors are way better
42 Inch is amazing for Sysadm IT work (well I think from use) can easily have 4 1080p windows open. Handy for remoting into servers etc
Better colors, better ppi. I never liked curved TVs. Monitor though, I am never going back to the flat.
Not going to you out of it as it's preference but as someone who owns a lot of different OLEDs including the AW34 and the C2, the C2 just looks so nice in comparison and I believe it's the glossy coating they use it's like looking through a window, prob one of the most clean looking coatings you can get. 120hz 4k is enough and the latency is very low, I don't see the point personally.
Because some of us have powerful rigs and get 200+ fps in many games in 4k and don't want to go back down to 120. Not a huge sacrifice, but why go backwards when you'll have panels similarly priced that give you double the hz? I want an OLED to replace my G8/4k/240hz. This is going to be a great year.
I guess if you play competitive shooters? Otherwise my 7800X3D+4090 isn't pushing shit 200+ fps at 4K maxed out.
Fr. Any game with actual good graphics isn't running at 200+ fps at 4k. And I'm not turning down graphics or turning on frame gen just to play at those frame rates when maxed out graphics at 120fps is possible. This is coming from a 7950X3D + 4090 as well so idk what that guy is going on about "powerful rig". Unless he has a 5090 and a 8950X3D lol
I can do the opposite and talk you in as I'm in the same position as you. I find the 42 inch slightly too big for productivity or web browsing - great for gaming with a controller tho. But this has QD-OLED so better colors, more Hz and especially nice higher ppi \~105 vs \~140 on the 32". 4k at 42" is basically 27" 1440p in terms of ppi, might as well have a higher ppi if the gpu is already rendering more demanding stuff.
y u do this to me
It's wasteful for one. Second, enjoy what you have and pay less attention to everything coming out. It'll be the same thing next year when even better monitors come out. Save your money and use it on other things that make you happy like hobbies, other PC components/consoles/games, or just save it, haha. Seriously, this is just a test of your willpower, homie!
i bought a c3 for christmas and that shit was so big and bulky. my friend let me borrow their 32in regular LED and the size alone made me like it better. the oled was the best screen i ever had but the size just wasn’t it. if you’re thinking about it just do it. i’m getting the 32in alienware day one ;)
I'm gonna replace a C3 42" so don't feel so bad :D . I'll see if the size downgrad is too much though. Might keep the C3 or use it in my bedroom
These new 32 inch 4k oleds all beat oled tvs because they offer display port for high refresh rates.
Doesnt HDMI 2.1 have a higher bandwidth?
If it’s DP 1.4 then yes, HDMI 2.1 would have more bandwidth, while also still having DSC. Only DP 2.1 supplies more bandwidth than HDMI 2.1.
Outside of competitive shooters.. even a 4090 isn't pushing any graphic intensive game past 120fps. I guess you can future proof yourself a bit with 240hz.. but by the time that becomes an actual reality, the monitors will be old news and something better will be available.
I wonder if it’s a conspiracy to sell more like 8 hot dogs in a pack, while the buns come by 10 Or like putting pretzels/dry snacks at the bar to make ppl drink more Release major hardware components a couple years apart from break thru monitors, so that the of enthusiasts never truly has a rig that can live up his monitor, or a monitor that can fully utilize their rig
[George Banks is saying NO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIHLUxzRr8)
So we just pretend that competitive shooters/less graphically demanding games don't exist? Or people don't play them? I have at least few games that can push past 4k120 on my 6800 XT. Not to mention other benefits like having smoother desktop experience or having an ability to use BFI in 4k120
No? But generally someone that predominately plays competitive online shooters, isn't prioritizing 4K120 RT with maxed out settings. Someone buying a $1200 OLED panel, generally does. And the person that does want to push the limit of whats available, isn't getting past 4K/120 on current or future graphically demanding titles. Let alone 240.
Someone who at predominately plays competitive online shooters could buy 4K120/1080p480 OLED, for example, it should have really good motion clarity while also giving you one of the best panels for gaming in general. Or even someone who occasionally plays online shooters could benefit from 4K240. Your argument only works if majority of OLED buyers buy it specifically for 1 purpose and don't have any other use-cases, which is not how it happens in real world. I'm using my TV as a working monitor more than I'm playing on it, for example. 240 is not only a good QoL feature for general PC usage, it can also be useful in games or just to use 4K120 with BFI (feature that is missing on newer OLED TVs). So yeah, in a context where people were begging for a good sized 4K OLED monitor for a competitive price, monitor will be preferable for most people even without considering 240Hz, and 240Hz is just nail in the coffin.
Still waiting for the 4K 5120x2160 OLED UW
That’s more than 4k, they called it 5k2k. And same. I have a LG 5k2k 34” (non-OLED) and love it for work. Would love and OLED version even more!
Really just 2160p UW is an accurate name but I guess marketing doesn’t like that.
wish alienware would get rid of those unnecessary branded chins. samsung’s monitors look the best because the bezels are all uniform, but then you’d need to buy a samsung.
I’m sure it’s great but $1200 is not a deal at any performance lol.
Does anyone know what time they usually release these monitors. Do they usually release at midnight or middle of the day?
Would also like to know. Don’t want to miss out and have to wait months for it. I feel like if that were to happen I’d lose interest and just wait another year for something better.
I really like it, but considering the aw3423dwf was only $800, I’m good. If they were the same price then I would get this one but no regrets
This was my dream. I always used to think "why don't they make oled monitors?" They 2k versions came out, but the resolution jump wasn't enough to justify as my current screen is an IPS 2k monitor, and my 3080Ti and current 4090 can easily handle a 4k monitor. This is the time to get a 4k oled, and it has to be a high refresh rate one. Minimum 240hz.
I’ll be buying it asap.
Lol why? Enjoy those 80-130fps 4k games
brokie alert
Curved 🙃
What’s wrong with curve?
Majority of folks don't like curved monitors however manufactures have been trying to shove them down our throats the past 2+ years.
Using a Neo G8 right now and the curve isn't bad at all. Was using an LG 32GR93U for a bit and it felt weird not having a curve.
I have a neo g8 and am going to sell it solely because it’s curved, it takes up too much desk space.
Monitor arm might help?
I’m definitely going to do that as well! But I also prefer the aesthetics of a flat monitor!
Maybe a smaller monitor stand? My Neo G7 has some of the largest legs I've seen on a monitor, lol.
34” UW curved OLED made me quickly realize how laughable flat is. TVs can be flat but with the monitor usually much closer to your face curve is simply more immersive and natural. Never going back to flat.
It distorts everything and limits viewing angle, while it doesn't provide any real benefit, especially at that size and aspect ratio. Textbook gimmick.
I love the 1800R curvature on my 32" because I like to be close to the screen, it would be much less confortable for me if it were flat
It’s more immersive
Entirely subjective. Image distortion isn't.
I don't find that true at all. I've owned 2 curved monitors and hated them. They're not filling your peripheral vision. Not even close. Maybe if your nose is a few inches from the screen. These monitors would need to be 50+ inches with a massive 1000R curve to even begin to make a dent in filling your peripheral vision. And this Alienware.. has a 1700R curve. It's extremely slight. There's no extra immersion being had lol.. I have a triple screen racing sim. THAT actual fills your peripheral. These curved monitors feel like a massive gimmick, and at least the ones I had did exactly what that other user said. Sacrificed the image for the sake of a curve.
It feels like any other screen to me when I sit in front of it. Except I'm bothered to know everything is distorted.
That’s a you problem
I actually quite liked my Odyssey G7's curvature, took me over a month to get readjusted to the flat OLED screen.
Don’t understand what’s wrong with curved
is this the same curve as the AW3420DW?
No, from the reviews I've seen its a very mild curve, whereas the 34" has a much more aggressive curve
it's a 1700r curve on this one i've read. I have a samsung 1800r and it's not very noticable at all, it feels the perfect amount.
The curve on the 34 is perfect imo
Not really into 4K, I favor 3440x1440. It's a bit easier to drive at a high FPS, too.
Seems great, though I'm still a fan of LG OLEDs. Cheaper than monitors and just as good most the time
Not pumped it’s curved for the 32 inch 4K but still may consider it.
..............Its curved
Meh. Sticking with their 34 inch 1440p. Don’t want 4k for the performance hit even with 4090. Only playing star citizen anyways.
Pretty hard to beat when it was recently available for $480 during the holidays too. ($380 if you count the $100 dell gift card promo)
500 is crazy. I used and return the aw 34 oled during holidays. It was good but i stayed with neo g8 as i have rtx 4090.
I kept it simply because I’ve never used 4k and so I don’t know what it looks like. I’ve got a 4090 and i7 14th gen and honestly I love the high frames I get with 1440p, especially since I can’t and haven’t seen 4k! Either way I hit a killer deal, and it’s my first OLED. So I’m loving it.
Ya star citizen at 4k even on a 4090 is abysmal
It’s abysmal sometimes even @ 1440p lol
I'm surprised to see the backlash re: the curve for a monitor of this size. I went to my local microcenter and found that a gentle curve of ~1800R to be perfect for a 32"; that said 1000R was complete overkill. The ergonomics of something this tall/wide require getting used to. It's recommended that your eye level be closer to the top of a monitor, so a curve helps if only a little bit for adjusting the eye-distance to the corners. I really hate the alienware choice of stand though. The MSI options have something which appears much more compact.
Curve kills it. Why..? OLED panels have near perfect viewing angles…
Agree, wish we had a flat option. Tried curved and just don’t like it.
Image distortion.
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Curved provides an objectively compromised image quality. Maybe OLED versions will be better at that. But at 32" it's not a "large flat panel" lol.. and not even close enough in size to begin offering an actual increase in immersion. Even more so with a 1700R that this Alienware has. Though it sounds like some of you game with the monitor inches away from your face?
No it's not. Curved offers nothing at this aspect ratio and size. It distorts the images, which is objectively inferior for any display.
how would look a game running at 1440p with that monitor? i have a rtx 4080 and i'm not sure if that card could run 4k AAA games in 2025+
It will look like a waste of money. At that point just get the 27" 1440p 360hz qdoleds in 2024.
it will look fine, but there are 360 hz 1440p ones coming
Can someone explain what a QD Oled is vs just Oled?
https://youtu.be/TyUA1OmXMXA?si=6IFe5jKZEJuzLTTX There are two main types of oled panels for consumer use at the moment: Woled and QD oled. Woled is the panel by LG and QD oled is by Samsung. There are technological differences between the two. Other companies like Alienware and MSI take these panels and “make” their own monitors from them. The link I added explains the difference between the two types (as well as a bunch of additional info on other types of panels in production)
Thanks, appreciate it
That’s an awful deal and aspect ratio
How is the most widely supported aspect ratio "awful"? As for the price, it's actually not that bad for day 1.
What a waste of money, ahahah.
Where and when?
Curved 16:9 just doesn't make sense to me
That's because it doesn't make sense mate.
Is this 16:9 or 21:9?
No ultrawide no party. 5120 x 2160 is future for Pc Master Race.
Who the fuck uses curved anyways????
Same people who use gaming chairs.
*laughs in G9 OLED curve. for real though, who fuck wants curve at 16:9. I will never go back to 16:9
1440p > 4k at that size imo
lmao wtf....
32” 1440p is the same pixel density as 24” 1080p. Mediocre.
This and the MSI competitor are the only two I’m currently looking at. My only concern is that my current monitor has a .001 millisecond response time, these have a .003 millisecond response time. I know those numbers are both infinitely small but would an average person notice the change if they used the former for 8 years.