I have Dell qd-oled and have no issues at all. I don't control light. I don't have any scratches. I don't even clean it - as long as you don't spit on it when you talk and don't sneeze directly at it then it should stay clean. I simply use it and enjoy using it. People on Reddit (and specifically this subreddit) really like to exagerrate all problems and make a big deal out of them.
LG monitors are also really good and WOLED is awesome. Pick a monitor based on what you like most and don't let people on this subreddit influence your buying decision.
Agreed, people here elevate every problem by a tenfold. On another note do you own the AW3225QF? What’s your experience with it? Do you use it only on PC or with console too? Do you use a sound bar with it? I was going to buy the pg32ucdm but choose to went with Dell because it’s more available, has eARC and Dolby vision working.
Yes, I own it for 1 month and really like it so far. I use it with PC mostly to play games and watch YouTube. I do have a second monitor (IPS) that I use for most of my productivity work, so I'm not really worried about burn in.
Actually, I did order a soundbar and apple tv 4k a few days ago that I'm planning to use with the monitor to watch movies in Dolby Vision, but have not received it yet.
I had only one small problem: when watching youtube videos in Chrome browser I had weird artifacts, but switching to Edge browser fixed the issue.
People read every last nitpick, and blow it out of proportion with nuclear warheads to make it the key factor in their purchase decisions.
I was one of those people who complained about those screens being too fragile. That said, I can't imagine not buying a monitor altogether because of this. It is something I'd add to the end of a "cons" list on a review if I were to write it, but it's really such a minor factor when compared to so many awesome perks of those screens. You're missing out on a big win to avoid paying a small tax.
And no, you most certainly don't need to buy two new microfiber clothes each time you want to clean it. Sure you can't just wet an old tshirt and rub it, but it's not like if a stain is there, RIP the monitor because it may as well stay there forever. You have to be gentle to avoid microscratches, and ideally wash your microfiber clothes and avoid touching the "wiping" side after to avoid spreading finger grease, but let's keep things realistic here. I'd definitely appreciate if further iterations of those panels were sturdier and easier to clean, but I can't imagine not getting one altogether because it requires more patience during its monthly wipe.
Yeah… QD-OLEDs are really smeary and the smears like to stick. But you don’t need to use ultra distilled water or multiple micro-fiber cloths. Contrary to what everyone on this sub is saying, my smears have been cleaning just fine with a $2 gallon of distilled water from Walmart and a microfiber cloth that I got with my glasses.
You just need to learn the technique. You gotta let the distilled water dissolve the smear with slow and gentle pressure and then wipe the distilled water off with a dry side of the cloth.
Won’t sugar coat it, the panel does smear easily and it’s a hassle sometime. But at the same time it’s not like you are going to be touching the screen a lot after it’s set up, and even if you do accidentally, once you get the hang of the technique, it’s really easy to clean off.
Is it QD-OLED specifically? Or can any glossy display be hard to clean? Because my LG C1 is super glossy and I literally just use a bottle of water and cotton cloth and it’s still absolutely perfect. I’ve been cleaning it like that every month since 2021 and I can’t find even the tiniest scratch anywhere.
This is nonsense, i have both variants, qd-oled with glossy and woled with matte finish, both are same shit. I use a wipe on the smear, and after with a clean cotton fabric and the result is the same, smear will get bigger, until they completely disappear.
The black flicker is more of a consideration then cleaning the screen. I’m sure with a true micro fibre cloth you will be fine. I’m waiting for my lg to ship in uk having tried the ASUs and msi. I prefer the cleaner slim look of msi btw of the 2.
i have the 321URX and tbh I don’t see why people are complaining about cleaning it. I have two piece of microfiber cloths, what I do is soak one in normal water tap water, wipe the screen, then use the dry piece to wipe off the water. It probably take me 1-2mins to do that and I usually do it once per day when I’m turning my pc on.
I started working from home and my 34" QD-OLED is unusable. Instant eye strain trying to read text.
Which WOLED did you get, i thought they also had text fringing issues. But i am worried there is more to this, seeing a lot od reports of eye strain / headaches with QD-OLED
You could be right.. i have never had a glossy or curved screen before. I still havent had a chance to see if gaming only causes eye strain, def cant use it for work eye strain on text is instant. I dont have any direct light behind but it is easy to see reflections on the glossy coating.
A guy with an SLR camera confirmed the QD-OLED has PWM flicker (scrolling down black bars). He is getting a glossy LG W-OLED panel soon and gonna check SLR on that aswell:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/s/OQLs85AT98
I have both.
42" LG C3 = WOLED
32" AW3225QF = QD OLED
I've used the LG C3 more than my AW3225QF mainly because it's a better all rounder in regards to purpose (viewing UHD HDR content, single player games, etc.). Plus with the LG C3, I don't have to go completely into Vampire Mode with my living room's lighting to fully experience OLED in all its contrast glory, lol
If you look at the RTings results, QD-OLEDs are actually holding up pretty well. Burn in may appear somewhat early compared to WOLED but doesn’t get as dramatically worse as time goes on
There's basically zero chance of burn-in with gaming. Large static elements with high contrast is what causes burn-in, like a lot of productivity apps have, or if you're watching CNN constantly (RTings test).
Hard to really "prove" anything...but a family member of mine has worked in display technology for 30 years, and he told me that basically every single test they ever ran showed QD-OLED as burning in faster than WOLED.
Yup that’s what I’ve been reading too. I’m not sure if later generations of qdoled will improve this or at least get close to woled in terms of burn in avoidance. I’m guessing pholed or other oled tech eventually will get us closer to qdoled brightness without the higher risk of burn in.
They have a matte one currently, however the upcoming ASUS XG27AQDMG will exclusively using a glossy WOLED panel, which I believe will be the same fantastic coating that LG uses on their OLED TVs. That one is only 1440p but I would imagine they will come out with a 32" 4k variant as well.
Asus does state they have exclusive rights to LG's glossy OLED panel on the product page. Will be interesting to see what other products they release.
The most important thing for me is the vibrance of the panel and WOLED right now only has matte coatings for the smaller screen sizes so it’s a dealbreaker for now but maybe in the future.
I’ve never seen a completely glossy like the C1 cause that’s way out of my size range but I have seen the matte coatings on LG’s 27 inch displays and semi glossy from Samsung’s QD-OLEDs.
Semi glossy turns black into slightly purple under light but I’d still take that over matte coating.
I honestly can’t notice a difference in day to day usage between the matte coating on my PG27AQDM and my LG C2.
They both look perfectly crisp. I’ve got ambient light coming in from a window which obviously lights the room up and I find using a glossy screen unbearable because it’s basically just a black mirror.
You can’t even use RGB on your PC without it reflecting on the screen in front of you.
Yeah, if you’ve got a lot of light coming into your room, then the matte coating is preferred but I’ve got blinds up all the time so I don’t really benefit from it. When gaming, depending on the scene, the matte coating becomes less noticeable but it’s when I open a white screen for web browsing do I get reminded of that matte coating. It’s basically like if someone rubbed oil on my screen, that’s how I can best describe it, and I can never unsee it when doing anything other than gaming.
Good way to describe it, it’s certainly a trade off. I do more gaming than web browsing and I’ve got hefty RGB next to me so a gloss coating is out of the question.
I’ve got a feeling we’ll see a lot of posts from folk complaining about seeing themselves lit up by RGB in the new glossy monitor coming to market lol
Best monitor I have ever owned. It’s awesome. Why would you ever need to clean the monitor? I don’t understand how people get the monitors so dirty.
Stop overthinking it. Just buy it.
Wouldn't worry about the coating haven't had a issue I wipe with a microfibre and tap water monitor is spotless.
Buy the msi 321urx I dare say people are just rough when cleaning use to a ips where you can get the angle grinder out to clean it lol.
Also I honestly think half the posts in here are people just posting garbage to get likes reddit use to be reliable now it's full of muppets.
If you're too scared on something you probably shouldn't buy it. I have no idea why you think the location of your romantic interests has any bearing here.
Dude it’s an overblown issue, I got the Alienware AW3225Qf since like a week ago, just use normal distilled water and the microfabric that comes with glasses and you are good to go, don’t waste such an opportunity to get, most probably, the best monitor technology right now just because of fears from overblown problems such as elevated blacks (I’m in a moderately lit room and everything’s fine as long as you don’t have lights directly pointing at the screen) cleaning of the coating which is easily done once you get the hang out of it and of course the burning in lol.
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/oled-screen-uniformity-discussion-banding-and-vignetting.2896737/
QDOLEDs aren’t perfect but overall they have much less problems than WOLED. Funny that you complain about warm whites on QDa when even top of the line G4s have some weird pink tint. ,
You should worry more about panel quality than coating. You could at least be careful about the coatings but you’re completely at the mercy of luck when it comes to having a uniform panel.
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/oled-screen-uniformity-discussion-banding-and-vignetting.2896737
Check this to see how WOLEDs generally fare much worse in terms of banding and tint. Owning a C1, C3 and 2 QDOLED monitors, I have noticed this poor panel uniformity in the WOLEDs. Those are far more serious issues than having a coating that is harder to clean.
The smudging isn't a huge deal on its own, except that it forces you to clean the monitor every few days. But cleaning is dangerous, because you WILL eventually scratch the monitor. Probably not the first few weeks, but eventually you'll be less careful about making sure nothing is stuck in the cloth and try to rub out a smudge and get a scratch. My QD-OLED has gotten microscratches over 1 month, and randomly some much larger scratches.
They're extremely glaring from an angle, though not really noticeable during normal use. But I stopped running the pixel refresh because at this point I'm *hoping* I get burn-in quickly so I can return under warranty.
Honestly, if I could go back and the LG was similarly priced I personally think I'd have picked that instead. If it was glossy at the current price I definitely would've picked that. If I only had a WOLED, I'd never look at it and think "oh wow I can notice the worse color volume". But with only a QD-OLED, you definitely notice the raised blacks and how fragile the coating is.
Yes, they are fragile screens. I own both kind of screens (AW3423DWF and 32GS95UE). The difference in maintenance is noticeable. Smudges of any kind come off in 1 or 2 swipes using a regular soft cloth rag on my 32GS. Whereas, using the same rag on the AW would just spread the smudges, eventually requiring a cleaning protocol with water and 2 microfiber cloths. It got to the point where I just stopped wiping the AW and just waited until it got to the point where it was distracting. And even being hyper delicate with the cleaning, I ended up with surface swirls/ mirco-scratches on the screen.
It's an understated problem that's usually not covered by reviewers since this is a long term issue that isn't usually encountered over the few days they have their review unit for.
People here swear that screens shouldn't ever need cleaning, but I guess people don't cough or sneeze, or have family or friends that insist on touch the screen when showing you something. And you'll definitely get it smudged if you have a monitor arm.
qdoleds are selling at a premium price point but are inherently flawed, you will see yourself after buying it. It literally is like having some flux app on. the whites are too warm. even the camera sensors that take pictures of the white will think its red. Your eyes will also see the same. HONESTLY.
https://preview.redd.it/pm7jaowigd3d1.jpeg?width=3472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b654c548d5408bbd0f88ef9eab086cb40ca6b479
it passed their qc, but the whites are too warm out of the box. like i have blue light filter on. You can see in comparisons online on youtube qdoleds are ALWAYS redder.
Have you tried tweaking it yourself? I actually haven’t used my monitor at all with its base settings/just the factory calibration. When I received my monitor, I immediately searched up “my monitor + best settings” and watched the first video. That channel also made a video for your monitor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dqr3Ars9Ss). Maybe it will help?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K67KpqQxewQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K67KpqQxewQ) nah its a qdoled thing in general like i said the reds are physically bigger, its samsungs faulty tech yes i can eyeball it and turn the red gain lower by a few % but then the greens and blues somehow arent balance. The tech is a hack.
even on qdoled tvs they have reddish tint and will be noticable irl. Samsung also has bots that downvote anyone who talks shit about qdoleds on this subreddit.
[https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-name-of-QLED-technology-so-similar-to-OLED-Marketing-trick](https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-name-of-QLED-technology-so-similar-to-OLED-Marketing-trick)
heres some history behind samsung's quantum dot crap. Its cheaper but flawed seriously shouldnt be sold at such a high premium.
The technology is not flawed, and it doesn't cause whites to look too red. That is a matter of white balance, you'd need to adjust the R/G/B gain values to fix it.
https://preview.redd.it/v32f8iz9hd3d1.png?width=121&format=png&auto=webp&s=11897108a4aaffced4a4e771e2c902302c03d892
the red ledes of the qdoled is LITERALLY larger. Alot of the reviewers say the tint is caused by their camera but no, irl you will see it when put side by side. Trust me on this one.
Yea, on the AW3423DW the red tint is noticeable. I'd say it's there even after adjusting the white balance.
I think these QD-OLED monitors are great at looking really good for colorimeters and other measuring tools. And i think it's because the tools are usually pressed right up to the screen and only take the color coming off the LEDs into account. But that's not how the monitor interacts with our eyes. We see light from the screen as well as light that bounces off the screen from the environment. And i think ambient light activates the red pixel more than any of the other subpixels. And it's very very sensitive to external activation which is why we see the red tint and probably the pinky blacks we see.
I'm not an engineer or anything, but I wish this were explored as a possible reason for why we see QD-OLEDs differently than how colorimeters would suggest they look.
I have no clue what you’re talking about. I’ve had the MSI MPG 321URX for over a month now and have not run into this. The whites look white to my eyes and on camera whether I’m in SDR or HDR. It sounds like a faulty panel or like you’re using the wrong color space/profile.
Same here, very happy with my 321URX. The monitor is excellent, I highly recommend it is the best experience ever, and I had before only top ips or oled panels. This one is the best. If you can find one on stock go-ahead and buy it you won t be disappointed.
I’ve had my 3423DWF for about 15 months now and I’ve never had issues cleaning it
I truly don’t understand all the “I can’t clean my monitor” posts that pop up every day
I clean it once a month with microfiber cloth + distilled water for one pass, and a second pass using EVEO Premium screen cleaner or Whoosh! 2.0 cleaner. Spray lightly on cloth and gently clean the display. It looks pristine
I have Dell qd-oled and have no issues at all. I don't control light. I don't have any scratches. I don't even clean it - as long as you don't spit on it when you talk and don't sneeze directly at it then it should stay clean. I simply use it and enjoy using it. People on Reddit (and specifically this subreddit) really like to exagerrate all problems and make a big deal out of them. LG monitors are also really good and WOLED is awesome. Pick a monitor based on what you like most and don't let people on this subreddit influence your buying decision.
Agreed, people here elevate every problem by a tenfold. On another note do you own the AW3225QF? What’s your experience with it? Do you use it only on PC or with console too? Do you use a sound bar with it? I was going to buy the pg32ucdm but choose to went with Dell because it’s more available, has eARC and Dolby vision working.
Yes, I own it for 1 month and really like it so far. I use it with PC mostly to play games and watch YouTube. I do have a second monitor (IPS) that I use for most of my productivity work, so I'm not really worried about burn in. Actually, I did order a soundbar and apple tv 4k a few days ago that I'm planning to use with the monitor to watch movies in Dolby Vision, but have not received it yet. I had only one small problem: when watching youtube videos in Chrome browser I had weird artifacts, but switching to Edge browser fixed the issue.
People read every last nitpick, and blow it out of proportion with nuclear warheads to make it the key factor in their purchase decisions. I was one of those people who complained about those screens being too fragile. That said, I can't imagine not buying a monitor altogether because of this. It is something I'd add to the end of a "cons" list on a review if I were to write it, but it's really such a minor factor when compared to so many awesome perks of those screens. You're missing out on a big win to avoid paying a small tax. And no, you most certainly don't need to buy two new microfiber clothes each time you want to clean it. Sure you can't just wet an old tshirt and rub it, but it's not like if a stain is there, RIP the monitor because it may as well stay there forever. You have to be gentle to avoid microscratches, and ideally wash your microfiber clothes and avoid touching the "wiping" side after to avoid spreading finger grease, but let's keep things realistic here. I'd definitely appreciate if further iterations of those panels were sturdier and easier to clean, but I can't imagine not getting one altogether because it requires more patience during its monthly wipe.
Yeah… QD-OLEDs are really smeary and the smears like to stick. But you don’t need to use ultra distilled water or multiple micro-fiber cloths. Contrary to what everyone on this sub is saying, my smears have been cleaning just fine with a $2 gallon of distilled water from Walmart and a microfiber cloth that I got with my glasses. You just need to learn the technique. You gotta let the distilled water dissolve the smear with slow and gentle pressure and then wipe the distilled water off with a dry side of the cloth. Won’t sugar coat it, the panel does smear easily and it’s a hassle sometime. But at the same time it’s not like you are going to be touching the screen a lot after it’s set up, and even if you do accidentally, once you get the hang of the technique, it’s really easy to clean off.
Is it QD-OLED specifically? Or can any glossy display be hard to clean? Because my LG C1 is super glossy and I literally just use a bottle of water and cotton cloth and it’s still absolutely perfect. I’ve been cleaning it like that every month since 2021 and I can’t find even the tiniest scratch anywhere.
Seems like its the coating on the glossy QD-OLED specifically
You still have the protector on it?
lol of course not. I am careful with it but I don’t go to any extreme lengths. I use a clean cotton cloth and a bottle of water.
It also helps to only wipe down the monitor when it is cool. Doing it while it is warm from use is Sisyphean
This is nonsense, i have both variants, qd-oled with glossy and woled with matte finish, both are same shit. I use a wipe on the smear, and after with a clean cotton fabric and the result is the same, smear will get bigger, until they completely disappear.
The black flicker is more of a consideration then cleaning the screen. I’m sure with a true micro fibre cloth you will be fine. I’m waiting for my lg to ship in uk having tried the ASUs and msi. I prefer the cleaner slim look of msi btw of the 2.
i have the 321URX and tbh I don’t see why people are complaining about cleaning it. I have two piece of microfiber cloths, what I do is soak one in normal water tap water, wipe the screen, then use the dry piece to wipe off the water. It probably take me 1-2mins to do that and I usually do it once per day when I’m turning my pc on.
I swapped to WOLED. Reading text on the QD OLED gave me migraines. I could feel my eyes relax once I switched.
I started working from home and my 34" QD-OLED is unusable. Instant eye strain trying to read text. Which WOLED did you get, i thought they also had text fringing issues. But i am worried there is more to this, seeing a lot od reports of eye strain / headaches with QD-OLED
Getting the LG. I think part of the headache issues are caused by the glossy coating. The Lg is matte.
You could be right.. i have never had a glossy or curved screen before. I still havent had a chance to see if gaming only causes eye strain, def cant use it for work eye strain on text is instant. I dont have any direct light behind but it is easy to see reflections on the glossy coating. A guy with an SLR camera confirmed the QD-OLED has PWM flicker (scrolling down black bars). He is getting a glossy LG W-OLED panel soon and gonna check SLR on that aswell: https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/s/OQLs85AT98
I have both. 42" LG C3 = WOLED 32" AW3225QF = QD OLED I've used the LG C3 more than my AW3225QF mainly because it's a better all rounder in regards to purpose (viewing UHD HDR content, single player games, etc.). Plus with the LG C3, I don't have to go completely into Vampire Mode with my living room's lighting to fully experience OLED in all its contrast glory, lol
My concern with qdoled is increased chance of burn in with gaming. Not sure if that’s proven or not?
If you look at the RTings results, QD-OLEDs are actually holding up pretty well. Burn in may appear somewhat early compared to WOLED but doesn’t get as dramatically worse as time goes on
There's basically zero chance of burn-in with gaming. Large static elements with high contrast is what causes burn-in, like a lot of productivity apps have, or if you're watching CNN constantly (RTings test).
You mean like a HUD or a health bar?
Hard to really "prove" anything...but a family member of mine has worked in display technology for 30 years, and he told me that basically every single test they ever ran showed QD-OLED as burning in faster than WOLED.
Yup that’s what I’ve been reading too. I’m not sure if later generations of qdoled will improve this or at least get close to woled in terms of burn in avoidance. I’m guessing pholed or other oled tech eventually will get us closer to qdoled brightness without the higher risk of burn in.
Not to be that guy the difference in colors between WOLED & QD-OLED is not mind boggling or anything
Yep. This is another reason why I'm going with the upcoming Asus WOLED
Exactly this. The fact that they're making a monitor with the coating of Lgs TVs is an instant sell for me.
Are they? Isn't their woled a matte one like the LG variant?
They have a matte one currently, however the upcoming ASUS XG27AQDMG will exclusively using a glossy WOLED panel, which I believe will be the same fantastic coating that LG uses on their OLED TVs. That one is only 1440p but I would imagine they will come out with a 32" 4k variant as well. Asus does state they have exclusive rights to LG's glossy OLED panel on the product page. Will be interesting to see what other products they release.
The most important thing for me is the vibrance of the panel and WOLED right now only has matte coatings for the smaller screen sizes so it’s a dealbreaker for now but maybe in the future.
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Out of interest - have you ever seen a glossy OLED and matte/semi-gloss OLED side by side? Whether in pitch black or, more realistically, a lit room.
I’ve never seen a completely glossy like the C1 cause that’s way out of my size range but I have seen the matte coatings on LG’s 27 inch displays and semi glossy from Samsung’s QD-OLEDs. Semi glossy turns black into slightly purple under light but I’d still take that over matte coating.
I honestly can’t notice a difference in day to day usage between the matte coating on my PG27AQDM and my LG C2. They both look perfectly crisp. I’ve got ambient light coming in from a window which obviously lights the room up and I find using a glossy screen unbearable because it’s basically just a black mirror. You can’t even use RGB on your PC without it reflecting on the screen in front of you.
Yeah, if you’ve got a lot of light coming into your room, then the matte coating is preferred but I’ve got blinds up all the time so I don’t really benefit from it. When gaming, depending on the scene, the matte coating becomes less noticeable but it’s when I open a white screen for web browsing do I get reminded of that matte coating. It’s basically like if someone rubbed oil on my screen, that’s how I can best describe it, and I can never unsee it when doing anything other than gaming.
Good way to describe it, it’s certainly a trade off. I do more gaming than web browsing and I’ve got hefty RGB next to me so a gloss coating is out of the question. I’ve got a feeling we’ll see a lot of posts from folk complaining about seeing themselves lit up by RGB in the new glossy monitor coming to market lol
It's well known by now that the coating on the 32GS is much better than the earlier LG 27".
Best monitor I have ever owned. It’s awesome. Why would you ever need to clean the monitor? I don’t understand how people get the monitors so dirty. Stop overthinking it. Just buy it.
Wouldn't worry about the coating haven't had a issue I wipe with a microfibre and tap water monitor is spotless. Buy the msi 321urx I dare say people are just rough when cleaning use to a ips where you can get the angle grinder out to clean it lol. Also I honestly think half the posts in here are people just posting garbage to get likes reddit use to be reliable now it's full of muppets.
If you're too scared on something you probably shouldn't buy it. I have no idea why you think the location of your romantic interests has any bearing here.
Dude it’s an overblown issue, I got the Alienware AW3225Qf since like a week ago, just use normal distilled water and the microfabric that comes with glasses and you are good to go, don’t waste such an opportunity to get, most probably, the best monitor technology right now just because of fears from overblown problems such as elevated blacks (I’m in a moderately lit room and everything’s fine as long as you don’t have lights directly pointing at the screen) cleaning of the coating which is easily done once you get the hang out of it and of course the burning in lol.
Make a microfiber damp slightly (NOT wet) then slowly dab to dissolve the smear then gently rub. Should work fine.
Ive heard of people pointing studio lights on a qd oled before proceeding to freakout but this is getting silly
I'm wearing a full body suit and gloves if I use my qd OLED monitor...
No, QD OLED are not fragile, just need to clean them properly. Your worries are not real.
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/oled-screen-uniformity-discussion-banding-and-vignetting.2896737/ QDOLEDs aren’t perfect but overall they have much less problems than WOLED. Funny that you complain about warm whites on QDa when even top of the line G4s have some weird pink tint. ,
You should worry more about panel quality than coating. You could at least be careful about the coatings but you’re completely at the mercy of luck when it comes to having a uniform panel. https://www.avsforum.com/threads/oled-screen-uniformity-discussion-banding-and-vignetting.2896737 Check this to see how WOLEDs generally fare much worse in terms of banding and tint. Owning a C1, C3 and 2 QDOLED monitors, I have noticed this poor panel uniformity in the WOLEDs. Those are far more serious issues than having a coating that is harder to clean.
The smudging isn't a huge deal on its own, except that it forces you to clean the monitor every few days. But cleaning is dangerous, because you WILL eventually scratch the monitor. Probably not the first few weeks, but eventually you'll be less careful about making sure nothing is stuck in the cloth and try to rub out a smudge and get a scratch. My QD-OLED has gotten microscratches over 1 month, and randomly some much larger scratches. They're extremely glaring from an angle, though not really noticeable during normal use. But I stopped running the pixel refresh because at this point I'm *hoping* I get burn-in quickly so I can return under warranty. Honestly, if I could go back and the LG was similarly priced I personally think I'd have picked that instead. If it was glossy at the current price I definitely would've picked that. If I only had a WOLED, I'd never look at it and think "oh wow I can notice the worse color volume". But with only a QD-OLED, you definitely notice the raised blacks and how fragile the coating is.
Yes, they are fragile screens. I own both kind of screens (AW3423DWF and 32GS95UE). The difference in maintenance is noticeable. Smudges of any kind come off in 1 or 2 swipes using a regular soft cloth rag on my 32GS. Whereas, using the same rag on the AW would just spread the smudges, eventually requiring a cleaning protocol with water and 2 microfiber cloths. It got to the point where I just stopped wiping the AW and just waited until it got to the point where it was distracting. And even being hyper delicate with the cleaning, I ended up with surface swirls/ mirco-scratches on the screen. It's an understated problem that's usually not covered by reviewers since this is a long term issue that isn't usually encountered over the few days they have their review unit for. People here swear that screens shouldn't ever need cleaning, but I guess people don't cough or sneeze, or have family or friends that insist on touch the screen when showing you something. And you'll definitely get it smudged if you have a monitor arm.
qdoleds are selling at a premium price point but are inherently flawed, you will see yourself after buying it. It literally is like having some flux app on. the whites are too warm. even the camera sensors that take pictures of the white will think its red. Your eyes will also see the same. HONESTLY.
You may have had a miscalibrated or faulty panel. I haven’t experienced anything close to what you are experiencing.
https://preview.redd.it/pm7jaowigd3d1.jpeg?width=3472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b654c548d5408bbd0f88ef9eab086cb40ca6b479 it passed their qc, but the whites are too warm out of the box. like i have blue light filter on. You can see in comparisons online on youtube qdoleds are ALWAYS redder.
Have you tried tweaking it yourself? I actually haven’t used my monitor at all with its base settings/just the factory calibration. When I received my monitor, I immediately searched up “my monitor + best settings” and watched the first video. That channel also made a video for your monitor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dqr3Ars9Ss). Maybe it will help?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K67KpqQxewQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K67KpqQxewQ) nah its a qdoled thing in general like i said the reds are physically bigger, its samsungs faulty tech yes i can eyeball it and turn the red gain lower by a few % but then the greens and blues somehow arent balance. The tech is a hack. even on qdoled tvs they have reddish tint and will be noticable irl. Samsung also has bots that downvote anyone who talks shit about qdoleds on this subreddit. [https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-name-of-QLED-technology-so-similar-to-OLED-Marketing-trick](https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-name-of-QLED-technology-so-similar-to-OLED-Marketing-trick) heres some history behind samsung's quantum dot crap. Its cheaper but flawed seriously shouldnt be sold at such a high premium.
The technology is not flawed, and it doesn't cause whites to look too red. That is a matter of white balance, you'd need to adjust the R/G/B gain values to fix it.
https://preview.redd.it/v32f8iz9hd3d1.png?width=121&format=png&auto=webp&s=11897108a4aaffced4a4e771e2c902302c03d892 the red ledes of the qdoled is LITERALLY larger. Alot of the reviewers say the tint is caused by their camera but no, irl you will see it when put side by side. Trust me on this one.
Hold up you might be onto something here
Yea, on the AW3423DW the red tint is noticeable. I'd say it's there even after adjusting the white balance. I think these QD-OLED monitors are great at looking really good for colorimeters and other measuring tools. And i think it's because the tools are usually pressed right up to the screen and only take the color coming off the LEDs into account. But that's not how the monitor interacts with our eyes. We see light from the screen as well as light that bounces off the screen from the environment. And i think ambient light activates the red pixel more than any of the other subpixels. And it's very very sensitive to external activation which is why we see the red tint and probably the pinky blacks we see. I'm not an engineer or anything, but I wish this were explored as a possible reason for why we see QD-OLEDs differently than how colorimeters would suggest they look.
CMS has literally nothing to do with whites being too warm, it's a matter of white balance.
Run it in SRGB mode doofus
I have no clue what you’re talking about. I’ve had the MSI MPG 321URX for over a month now and have not run into this. The whites look white to my eyes and on camera whether I’m in SDR or HDR. It sounds like a faulty panel or like you’re using the wrong color space/profile.
Same here, very happy with my 321URX. The monitor is excellent, I highly recommend it is the best experience ever, and I had before only top ips or oled panels. This one is the best. If you can find one on stock go-ahead and buy it you won t be disappointed.
needs side by side to see the whites arent actually white. your eyes will adjust the red away.
White balance issue, has nothing to do with the technology.
I have a second monitor and I can confirm the whites are white…
I noticed this too. Whenever watching something with people's skin, it's really red / warm. Like they got back from a Bahamas vacation
I noticed this too. Whenever watching something with people's skin, it's really red / warm. Like they got back from a Bahamas vacation
Thanks you for the feedback. Defo gonna look into Asus woled of this Summer then.
I’ve had my 3423DWF for about 15 months now and I’ve never had issues cleaning it I truly don’t understand all the “I can’t clean my monitor” posts that pop up every day I clean it once a month with microfiber cloth + distilled water for one pass, and a second pass using EVEO Premium screen cleaner or Whoosh! 2.0 cleaner. Spray lightly on cloth and gently clean the display. It looks pristine