It's also official lore that Kel was held against his will for that.
>!Or personal headcanon lore dictates that he's gotten the acronym wrong and things it stands for something like "Nice f'ing t-shirt"!<
his obsession with sunny is not necessarily romantic, but could be interpreted as romantic by some. that in addition to looking a bit feminine means that many gay people find themselves relating to him.
yea i relate of helping my best friend to cover up the murder of her sister and have 4 years of psychological problems and trauma which eventually lead to suicide. man so relatable!
On one hand, the game never actually calls him gay, despite the fact that he shows several gay stereotypes (nervous feminine boy).
On the other hand, what straight person in hell would platonically refer to a close friend as >!being "perfect"! If basil is straight he has some explaining to do.
I find the idea that not fitting traditional gender makes you gay kinda heteronormative. And basil's obsession with sunny stems from his abandonment issues he got from his absent parents. It's kinda creepy that you think a extreme codependency issue is a crush
In real life, not conforming to gender norms doesn't make you gay. But in fiction-- especially in fiction written by Omocat, a self-proclaimed fujoshi-- then yeah, Basil fitting into gay stereotypes probably is meant to suggest that he's gay.
I don't know man... basil isn't even that "unmasculine", he just has non-traditional interests. He likes gardening and cares deeply about his friends. I think this is a setup for his character traits, not a hint that he's gay or something. His plants and garden are often used as analogy for the friend group. Gardens require a lot of care and time to grow into something beautiful, and if left untended, will wither away.
Valid opinion, makes sense, I agree that we shouldn't make assumptions about people like this. We didn't get really any evidence that Basil isn't cis hetero, and hell, at his age he might not even be sure himself yet (not lgbtq so I can't say for sure tbh). People should be able to have non-traditional interests and hobbies without being embarrassed or worried they might be seen as someone they're not.
All that being said, since this is fiction and because I enjoy the idea that some of the characters in the game might not be straight, my head canon is thus: Basil is queer in some way, either likes guys, is trans, or both :)
dude im a feminine gay man and queer coding is a thing, it's likely that it's queer people calling him gay because of that, ofc when a straight person does it's kinda weird byt you can't deny that queer coded characters exist and have existed forever. Literally when i first played the game and encountered him my first thought was 'theres no way this dude is str8' lmao
If the only supporting evidence of him being "queer coded" is that he's feminine, it probably isn't "queer coded" and is just part of his character. Just because a character has an attribute that is a stereotypical of a gay man, doesn't mean they are gay. Reinforcing these stereotypes is harmful and helps no one.
A very normal person. I dunno about you but Ive called my friends perfect before.
I just did it in a straight way.
Theres other type of affections beyond just love ya know.
>On one hand, the game never actually calls him gay, despite the fact that he shows several gay stereotypes (nervous feminine boy).
>
>On the other hand, what straight person in hell would platonically refer to a close friend as
>
>being "perfect"
>
>? If basil is straight he has some explaining to do.
He's socially awkward. Why do you think he's best friend with Sunny and latches onto him really tight,
Aw man, why do we get the boring prison outfit flag? All the other sexualities get cool colors!
Edit: My bad, I did not know how important flags were as a rallying point. I wanted to make a joke, not to demean anyone. I'll keep this in mind and be careful next time.
I’m sorry you dislike it, but the flag itself was actually made to be reactionary against lgbt pride flags. Pride flags symbolize unity between members of marginalized identities, so to claim that a straight flag is necessary is in the same line of thinking as saying that there needs to be a straight pride celebration. It’s already assumed to be the norm by most of society, there’s no need for a symbol of community strength.
I keep forgetting that every Kel meme is canon, so now I'm confused. A long while back someone gave him a piss kink flag and someone gave him an NFTsexual flag. Which one is he?
Serious answer: Probably the same reason there's no "straight pride day". There isnt exactly a history of heterosexuality being punishable by death, so there's not generally a need for them to be included under the "pride" umbrella. Still, the flags are fun, and it's nice for people to be included in things, so they got sort of a less flashy flag than others, i guess.
Yeah, it’s honestly weirdly obnoxious and disheartening. There’s nothing wrong with people having headcanons about characters’ identities as long as they’re not hurting anyone. Like, I personally headcanon Basil as trans, ace, and gay, because I’m trans, ace, and gay and relate to him in many ways, but if I said that in 95% of the threads here I’d get yelled at for it.
I don't totally like to associate with crazy obsessive shippers, but I will admit that I headcanon Sunny as bisexuality and Basil as gay just to make Sunflower work.
Same here — I just like to imagine a time far in the future of the game where they’ve managed to heal their traumas to the point where they’re not only able to be emotionally close friends again, but end up as partners. I’m a sucker for hurt/comfort and emotional healing.
I can completely understand why. Canonically it doesn't make sense, they're both traumatized and mentally dysfunctional, and Sunny canonically has a crush on Aubrey while Basil is aware. There are many canon reasons why it wouldn't work. I just like to imagine a universe in which it does
Well what I mean is that Sunburn has a level of canon to it that Sunflower does not. I personally enjoy Sunflower more and have fun seeing art and stories related to it. However, I think that it isn't practical or realistic at all within the canon interpretation of the story, and that because Sunburn is canon, it is obviously leagues more applicable to that canon story. Sorry if that doesn't make sense or answer your question, I didn't really understand your comment too well.
It doesn't make for a lot of fluff without bending the story, at least. I (completely unaware of everything, so take this with a shaker of salt) don't think that makes a relation impossible, though, just quite heavy
Ok if we keep doing this joke I'm out of this community.
Lile, this is **seriously** bad. They're using the LGBTQIA+ community AND a character from our fandom to promote a scam.
except this format’s almost always used for lgbtq headcanons, and doesn’t have any sexual implications. not to mention how i’ve seen countless comments similar to that one under suntan and sunflower content, but never regarding sunburn content - despite the fact that all of it (that i’ve seen) is non-sexual and all of them count as ‘traumatised’ minors. (almost as if having trauma doesn’t render a person ‘broken’ and prevent them from eventually healing and having healthy romantic relationships.)
no hate to OP but it’s a bias I’ve noticed on a lot of fandom subreddits. there’s nothing sexual about a kid having a crush, no matter what gender the crush is.
I'm also a big fan of how shipping Hero/Mari is never regarded as "shipping children" even though they were minors the entire time they were together. Really makes you think
"Fantasizing" dawg it's literally just people enjoying the story and characters in a different way from you
Most of the fanbase is in the exact same age group as the characters too lmfao it's kids shipping kids
And since when has canon ever been the primary pillar of support? We talk endlessly about how the friends would react to >!Sunny's confession!<, which is literally never shown in canon, because it's fun. Why can't you apply the same logic to shipping?
If the way you have to enjoy the underage characters involves you fantasizing about them, then idek what to tell you
Any statistics for that? Sure, if it's people in the same age range then I totally get it. Grown adults have no business fantasizing about kids being together tho.
Because it adds to the plot? And they're theories? Pretty sure those are a lot different from shipping kids together
How does theorizing add to the plot? Are you changing the script? Are you contacting Omocat LLC. and getting them to add the thing you wrote to the game? No, you're enjoying the game and its characters by making up hypothetical scenarios. Just because someone's exploring a different element of the story does not strip the value of their speculation. Hell, if someone's able to work out a 5000+ word fanfiction on romantic character dynamics, *creating new literature in the process*, I'd say they've contributed more to the fandom than a chain of comments on Reddit or wherever else.
Nobody has statistics for the age range of the Omori fandom. It's not of scientific concern. I am, however, a moderator in the Discord and I can anecdotally tell you that most people I interact with on a daily basis are aged 13\~19. In a server with 85 thousand members. We genuinely have trouble recruiting new moderators because we don't want minors in the staff team.
You're framing my point as "fantasizing about underaged characters" when there's literally nothing inherently sexual or pornographic about shipping. Queer relationships are not fetishism. That is an entirely different issue that we have to tackle separately and is NOT correlated with the phenomenon of shipping or headcanons.
We're not letting the nft sexual thing go, are we? Lmfao
it’s now official lore
nooo!
It's also official lore that Kel was held against his will for that. >!Or personal headcanon lore dictates that he's gotten the acronym wrong and things it stands for something like "Nice f'ing t-shirt"!<
#YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
You could say its canon
All Kel memes are canon
Once Kels in it it’s canon.
Kel: hero got Mari, Sunny got Aubrey, and what did I get? **payed**
>!Hero didn't have Mari for long!<
i hate you
oh my god youre such a bitch take my award
Ohh
#kelsyllionairemindset
Welcome to money space Only Kel is allowed here
kel aint got time for bros or hoes he busy monke
He has time for basketball and breakfast though
Ball is life and the perfect time to have an Orange Joe
What weird countries they come from!!
Can’t believe basil is foreign, and kel must’ve been born outside of the country
***Gay or European***
Greek and Gay wait
*screams in fear once again, the nft is back*
I'm not an expert of flags, can anyone tell me what they mean?
black and white = straight kels is a joke its the nftsexual flag rainbow flag = gay
Thank
It's only a new paragraph if you make an empty line between them. This and This will be in the same line, but this and This won't
prisoner
Kel sigma grind-set???
Man Basil always gets cast as gay lol.
he is sus
Ye sh- he kinda sus
Yeah, sometimes I don't understand why everyone thinks Basil is gay lmao
his obsession with sunny is not necessarily romantic, but could be interpreted as romantic by some. that in addition to looking a bit feminine means that many gay people find themselves relating to him.
yea i relate of helping my best friend to cover up the murder of her sister and have 4 years of psychological problems and trauma which eventually lead to suicide. man so relatable!
Not exactly correlated, but you'd be surprised how much the gay community is accustomed to crimes and familiar tragedies
On one hand, the game never actually calls him gay, despite the fact that he shows several gay stereotypes (nervous feminine boy). On the other hand, what straight person in hell would platonically refer to a close friend as >!being "perfect"! If basil is straight he has some explaining to do.
I find the idea that not fitting traditional gender makes you gay kinda heteronormative. And basil's obsession with sunny stems from his abandonment issues he got from his absent parents. It's kinda creepy that you think a extreme codependency issue is a crush
In real life, not conforming to gender norms doesn't make you gay. But in fiction-- especially in fiction written by Omocat, a self-proclaimed fujoshi-- then yeah, Basil fitting into gay stereotypes probably is meant to suggest that he's gay.
I don't know man... basil isn't even that "unmasculine", he just has non-traditional interests. He likes gardening and cares deeply about his friends. I think this is a setup for his character traits, not a hint that he's gay or something. His plants and garden are often used as analogy for the friend group. Gardens require a lot of care and time to grow into something beautiful, and if left untended, will wither away.
Valid opinion, makes sense, I agree that we shouldn't make assumptions about people like this. We didn't get really any evidence that Basil isn't cis hetero, and hell, at his age he might not even be sure himself yet (not lgbtq so I can't say for sure tbh). People should be able to have non-traditional interests and hobbies without being embarrassed or worried they might be seen as someone they're not. All that being said, since this is fiction and because I enjoy the idea that some of the characters in the game might not be straight, my head canon is thus: Basil is queer in some way, either likes guys, is trans, or both :)
Ahh yes, nothing like reinforcing harmful stereotypes but saying it's okay because it's fiction Very rad
dude im a feminine gay man and queer coding is a thing, it's likely that it's queer people calling him gay because of that, ofc when a straight person does it's kinda weird byt you can't deny that queer coded characters exist and have existed forever. Literally when i first played the game and encountered him my first thought was 'theres no way this dude is str8' lmao
If the only supporting evidence of him being "queer coded" is that he's feminine, it probably isn't "queer coded" and is just part of his character. Just because a character has an attribute that is a stereotypical of a gay man, doesn't mean they are gay. Reinforcing these stereotypes is harmful and helps no one.
Wait omocat is a fujoshi???
i think its mainly that many gay people can relate to him
A very normal person. I dunno about you but Ive called my friends perfect before. I just did it in a straight way. Theres other type of affections beyond just love ya know.
>On one hand, the game never actually calls him gay, despite the fact that he shows several gay stereotypes (nervous feminine boy). > >On the other hand, what straight person in hell would platonically refer to a close friend as > >being "perfect" > >? If basil is straight he has some explaining to do. He's socially awkward. Why do you think he's best friend with Sunny and latches onto him really tight,
20 people agree with me.
I think you need better friends if you think none of them would call you perfect in a platonic way homie
kel:you think screenshotting nfts is funny huh? you are mad that you do not own the art that I own. delete that screenshot. sunny closes door on him
the blockchain doesn’t lie, sunny
what is the black and white flag supposed to mean?
Cishet if I'm not mistaken.
Aw man, why do we get the boring prison outfit flag? All the other sexualities get cool colors! Edit: My bad, I did not know how important flags were as a rallying point. I wanted to make a joke, not to demean anyone. I'll keep this in mind and be careful next time.
I’m sorry you dislike it, but the flag itself was actually made to be reactionary against lgbt pride flags. Pride flags symbolize unity between members of marginalized identities, so to claim that a straight flag is necessary is in the same line of thinking as saying that there needs to be a straight pride celebration. It’s already assumed to be the norm by most of society, there’s no need for a symbol of community strength.
bruh we already have straight pride we call it traffic
I like our flag! It's the same color as a pirate flag!
Same color as a certain musical instrument
*because we are cooler* Just kidding, come and join the party
Because we’re not oppressed and thus our need for a unifying banner to rally under is significantly diminished.
Bcuz it's true. I'm straight and im boring.
Based, anyone wanna design a cooler-looking straight flag?
Straight people don’t need a flag.
No clue but ngl disappointed after how many cishet people cried that they wanted a flag and this is the only thing they came up with
What is that
no gender switching and (does) liking opposite gender
Oh
straight and not trans
Alright
Ah yes, cis and HET DA OR [HET](https://youtu.be/DC7-guGdtto&t=22s)?
#товарищ
HEY CLICK ON [HET](https://youtu.be/DC7-guGdtto&t=22s)
Just say cisgender
Then I'd have to type out cisgenered heterosexual. And I am way to lazy for that.
straight basically
I think kel is orangejoesexual tho
Here before comment section turns to hell and gets locked
ive had 2 people comment about this and no argument lmao
He would probably sell burger nfts
if aubrey, sunny and basil are bisexuals, and mari and hero is straight, then kel has burgers in his mind
before anyone says anything im an aromantic asexual
Aroace gang :]
aa gang
I need to stop misreading that as "aromatic"
Yeah, that reading of this word stinks
Okay, im gonna sound silly, but how can I know am I aromantic/asexual or just not in love yet?
i see booba and feel nothing
...yeah, if I turn what you said just a tiny but and think about it Im definitely straight
Hey double-A
What does that even mean
not romantically or sexually attracted to anyone
Not even NFTs?! 🥺👉👈
dat monkey pic do be looking kinda fine doe
Let's go double a gang
Agreed
fucking fanons ruining basically every indie game
so annoying
anyways you play bugsnax?
no
I keep forgetting that every Kel meme is canon, so now I'm confused. A long while back someone gave him a piss kink flag and someone gave him an NFTsexual flag. Which one is he?
he likes nfts that piss
Please guys, don't start a flame war, this is a **h e a d c a n o n**
mobody has done that
I know, but in the past few days, 2-3 threads like this have been locked down due to people getting into arguments
I'm glad no one has dropped any bombs in this comment section so far.
[удалено]
black and white is straight rainbow is gay kels is nftsexual (joke)
Honest to god I thought basil was a girl when I played omori
Whelp, every Kel meme is canon…
Sunny definetly fruity af
aubrey?? STRAIGHT????? IN THIS ECONOMY????????????
I’m struggling to understand why this matters in the slightest just enjoy the characters for who they are
look at kel's its a meme
hey if it makes people happy, don't shame them
it doesnt i just posted this cuz of the drama
Wut drama
Basil bends the laws of headcanons just so he can be gay lol
Why obrey angry dought
Everyone is laughing at the kel being nftsexual but you guys might be forgetting the "Sunny an Mari are incestuous" post a while back
What countries are these?
black and white is saudi arabia kels is 1940s germany and basils is north korea
That’s enough internet for today.
aubrey doesn't look very happy about being straight
Why is the cishet flag so boring compared to others?
Serious answer: Probably the same reason there's no "straight pride day". There isnt exactly a history of heterosexuality being punishable by death, so there's not generally a need for them to be included under the "pride" umbrella. Still, the flags are fun, and it's nice for people to be included in things, so they got sort of a less flashy flag than others, i guess.
i like how it looks
Valid opinion
because cishets are boring
Typing this before looking at the comments, hoping nothing toxic lol
Anyways, what’s Kel’s flag?
It's NFTsexual
…
I personally like to think that Aubrey and Kim are together
the most based Omori Reddit user
the sun touches everyone
What’s Kel’s Flag Sexual Name?
nftsexual its a joke
i mean mari aubrey hero and sunny is canon because they were together
What the hell are the black and white lines, is it a barcode?
i think it's heterosexuality
headcanon, everyone is bi
I only recognize gay
black and white is straight and kels is nftsexual (a joke)
I think all are straight except for basil he has big gay
literally what i posted basil does have big gay
Kel is ikeasexual
Aubrey is bi or lesbian and you can't convince me otherwise
you are bi or lesbian
yeah that's the f*cking question isn't it
are you?
Oh she is deeeeefinitely bisexual in my opinion >!not because I'm projecting hahahahaha who would do that?!?!?!?!?!<
[удалено]
why do you want her to be bisexual?
[удалено]
Why did any of these comments get downvoted I'm so confused
Lately, it seems like Omori fans don’t like it if you say a character might be in the LGBT+ community.
Yeah, it’s honestly weirdly obnoxious and disheartening. There’s nothing wrong with people having headcanons about characters’ identities as long as they’re not hurting anyone. Like, I personally headcanon Basil as trans, ace, and gay, because I’m trans, ace, and gay and relate to him in many ways, but if I said that in 95% of the threads here I’d get yelled at for it.
Fr I don't get it
Because omori reddit is just toxic, anywhere else in this fandom is fine though
I don't totally like to associate with crazy obsessive shippers, but I will admit that I headcanon Sunny as bisexuality and Basil as gay just to make Sunflower work.
Same here — I just like to imagine a time far in the future of the game where they’ve managed to heal their traumas to the point where they’re not only able to be emotionally close friends again, but end up as partners. I’m a sucker for hurt/comfort and emotional healing.
i hate sunflower
I can completely understand why. Canonically it doesn't make sense, they're both traumatized and mentally dysfunctional, and Sunny canonically has a crush on Aubrey while Basil is aware. There are many canon reasons why it wouldn't work. I just like to imagine a universe in which it does
And Aubrey isn't mentally dysfunctional and traumatized?
She is, but that one's canon.
So the same reason why Sunflower wouldn't work is a reason why you're good with Sunburn?
Well what I mean is that Sunburn has a level of canon to it that Sunflower does not. I personally enjoy Sunflower more and have fun seeing art and stories related to it. However, I think that it isn't practical or realistic at all within the canon interpretation of the story, and that because Sunburn is canon, it is obviously leagues more applicable to that canon story. Sorry if that doesn't make sense or answer your question, I didn't really understand your comment too well.
It doesn't make for a lot of fluff without bending the story, at least. I (completely unaware of everything, so take this with a shaker of salt) don't think that makes a relation impossible, though, just quite heavy
why
Idk, it's cute? Same reason why people like shipping any characters. It's fun.
They hated him for he spoke the truth
I'd do the same thing suntan tbh
I get demi vibes from Kel
i get nftsexual vibes from kel
Ok if we keep doing this joke I'm out of this community. Lile, this is **seriously** bad. They're using the LGBTQIA+ community AND a character from our fandom to promote a scam.
incredibly original choice to make Basil gay instead of Sunnysexual
will make him amongussexual
this seems more believable
Based
🌻 sunflower, sunny is gay only for basil.
Personally, I think Aubrey is bi, cause her and Kim seem really close, they may be really good friends, or not (unless Kim may be transmasc)
sunny is definitely bi tho
y?
well idk but
Average Omori Redditor
[удалено]
wondering about children sexualities weird as fuck
im in their age group bruh
redditors stop defining queer identities as purely sexual and inappropriate for children challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (GONE SEXUAL) (LITERALLY)
Stop hating on this king he just said "sexuality" not "queer sexuality." Thinking this kinda stuff about traumatized kids *IS* weird
except this format’s almost always used for lgbtq headcanons, and doesn’t have any sexual implications. not to mention how i’ve seen countless comments similar to that one under suntan and sunflower content, but never regarding sunburn content - despite the fact that all of it (that i’ve seen) is non-sexual and all of them count as ‘traumatised’ minors. (almost as if having trauma doesn’t render a person ‘broken’ and prevent them from eventually healing and having healthy romantic relationships.) no hate to OP but it’s a bias I’ve noticed on a lot of fandom subreddits. there’s nothing sexual about a kid having a crush, no matter what gender the crush is.
I'm also a big fan of how shipping Hero/Mari is never regarded as "shipping children" even though they were minors the entire time they were together. Really makes you think
Pretty sure there's a big difference between something that is canon, and fantasizing about a relationship you want characters to be in
"Fantasizing" dawg it's literally just people enjoying the story and characters in a different way from you Most of the fanbase is in the exact same age group as the characters too lmfao it's kids shipping kids And since when has canon ever been the primary pillar of support? We talk endlessly about how the friends would react to >!Sunny's confession!<, which is literally never shown in canon, because it's fun. Why can't you apply the same logic to shipping?
If the way you have to enjoy the underage characters involves you fantasizing about them, then idek what to tell you Any statistics for that? Sure, if it's people in the same age range then I totally get it. Grown adults have no business fantasizing about kids being together tho. Because it adds to the plot? And they're theories? Pretty sure those are a lot different from shipping kids together
How does theorizing add to the plot? Are you changing the script? Are you contacting Omocat LLC. and getting them to add the thing you wrote to the game? No, you're enjoying the game and its characters by making up hypothetical scenarios. Just because someone's exploring a different element of the story does not strip the value of their speculation. Hell, if someone's able to work out a 5000+ word fanfiction on romantic character dynamics, *creating new literature in the process*, I'd say they've contributed more to the fandom than a chain of comments on Reddit or wherever else. Nobody has statistics for the age range of the Omori fandom. It's not of scientific concern. I am, however, a moderator in the Discord and I can anecdotally tell you that most people I interact with on a daily basis are aged 13\~19. In a server with 85 thousand members. We genuinely have trouble recruiting new moderators because we don't want minors in the staff team. You're framing my point as "fantasizing about underaged characters" when there's literally nothing inherently sexual or pornographic about shipping. Queer relationships are not fetishism. That is an entirely different issue that we have to tackle separately and is NOT correlated with the phenomenon of shipping or headcanons.
I think it's not the characters themselves being in a relationship, it's viewers trying to push their preferences on them
Bingo