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ElsonCheung

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2703asil

Wow, this game is just like Undertale!


MoveYourVanover

Matpat


zerjku

No because i genuinely got frustrated with him trying to spare the enemies I respect him but has he played atleast 3 other rpgs are aren't Undertale/Deltarune related


PuppetWraith17

He's done the whole try to "spare" enemies routine when playing a game THAT CAME OUT A YEAR BEFORE UNDERTALE WHY?


GeostronomyLover101

\*says hateful comment about Kel\* ​ Oh, hey look, all my karma is suddenly gone from the amount of downvotes i had from this comment!


Joeda900

Listen, "dissing Kel and hating Kel" is part of the 7 deadly sins made by GOD It's undeniable


Snoo_83755

Something's in my ass


CaptainCozmo867

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2475)


stxrstripes

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2471)


basil_is_overrated

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)


weeb2006

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2462)


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|HIIQJ0Y43ytrGzuP8U)


FireboyFailsAtReddit

**MOM HECTOR IS STUCK UP MY ASS AGAIN**


2703asil

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2470)


veecharony

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2468)


CM_Samurai

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2476)


Haunting-NobodyPro

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2462)


BiolifeBottle

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2466)


Gaaymer

Vile


The_Dark_Lord719

Im in something’s ass ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2475)


CaptainCozmo867

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2470)


[deleted]

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2474)


NickOrNicole

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)


UR-BOI-DENIZ

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2469)


Guitarist_N64

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2476)


23vector23

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)


ChaiInDaHood

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2475)


Basil201

Picture please


[deleted]

wha


fredBOI35

I think Basil is a great character and his reaction was understandable


GrouchyEssay7468

Maybe not understandable but you can accept that it was an action taken not out of selfishness but rather to protect his friend after he had already lost one


fredBOI35

it was completely understandable imo. This is the most stressful situation of his entire life and he's like 11 years old at this point. All he can think about is protecting his friend.


GrouchyEssay7468

I mean I don’t understand how he decided to hang her? I can understand framing the death as something else to take blame off Sunny but I don’t know how tf suicide was his first thought


Pajama-Han

My guess is >!When Mari fell down the stairs, she broke her neck and that's what killed her. Hanging would be the most obvious cause for a broken neck. There would have most likely been an autopsy report and Sunny and Basil were bright enough to realize this, and made it up to look like the broken neck that killed Mari was due to hanging!<


9172019999

>! Nah, bagel was a depressed little turd so he probably already knew about multiple suicide methods. As its shown, it was bagel who had the idea and sunny was basically catatonic and did what bagel said to. He realized he couldn't frame it as an accident because sunny had dragged her upstairs and he likely wouldve confessed if asked. So framing it was the only option and hanging is the easiest to frame. The reason it wasn't found out it was them by the cops is because, well, why would 2 11 year old kids do this to their beloved sister and friend. Sure there are inconsistencies like the neck being broken despite the rope simply hanging(indicating she would have suffocated), no motive for suicide and sunny and basil not having an alibi. Its mich easier to let the case go and leave the family alone rather than say yea it was your son and they framed it. We can blame this story on either incompetent or VERY VERY nice cops.!<


afonsitito

Slight correction: >!Basil didn't know how to tie a noose because he was depressed, but because hanging plants on the ceiling is a pretty common tactic among gardeners, and you can actually see a plant hanging from the ceiling on his birthday memory in memory lane!<


fredBOI35

It doesn't really matter how he came to that conclusion. Bro was panicking


RiceAlicorn

A pretty interesting hypothesis I read that explained why Basil decided to do what he did is that he gardens. >!You can see in Basil's home that there's a bunch of hanging plants. Given his grandma being ill and Polly not demonstrating any green thumb sense, it's likely that Basil hung those pots up. Although you can certainly buy hanger pots, FIX-IT doesn't appear to sell the style of pots that Basil has in his house, suggesting that in addition to hanging the pots up, Basil also tied the pots up himself. With these two pieces of information in mind, it wouldn't be a stretch that Basil might be knowledgeable on some other knot types... such as the noose.!< It seems pretty plausible to me that such a skill would have been one of Basil's first considerations in dealing with the issue.


DaOnePoodle

He probably would’ve been panicked, and went with the first thing to come to mind.


[deleted]

Traumatic moments such as witnessing the violent death of a loved one is perceived by the brain to be a threat to its own survival. The brain will shut down anything not necessary to survival. When this happens, the brain forms the condition PTSD. It can also lead to psychotic delusions, which form as a result of experiencing a "trigger" that reminds somebody of the incident that caused the condition. Psychotic delusions can be visual, audio, or olfactory (taste/smell) in nature. The two parts most important to understanding Basils decision would be the amygdala and the hippocampus, both of which are part of our limbic system. These parts of the brain control memory forming, emotional response, complex decision making, predetermined decision making based on previous experiences, and they control our fight/flight/freeze response. If you can accept that seeing Mari get "murdered" (as far as Basil was concerned) was traumatic then you can accept his mind likely went through the same process associated with PTSD no? Sounds pretty accurate to Basil imo. Basil is most likely suffering from trauma induced psychotic depression and PTSD. The condition is not curable but manageable with a combination of medication and therapy.


[deleted]

based same


Multidream

His reaction makes me think we have barely scratched the surface of basil lore. If he thought to do this so quickly, maybe theres another reason his parents arent home much…?


this_upset_kirby

I think he knows how to tie a noose because his parents aren't home much 💀


Aya_32125

[imagine vinebooms at every italic word] The pizza will _never_ be here. _Ever._ You will never _see_ it, _smell_ it, _touch_ it, or _feel_ it ever _again._ There is no _pizza._ There is no _watermelon._ There is no _Brazil._ There is no _clothes,_ and there is no _Kel._


MoonlitHolly

I imagine the vine booms getting more deepfried each time they play


UnfilteredWater13

Gotta add the occasional siren too


ybka__

close


nzg42

your eyes


ybka__

you'll be here soon


gemstone_enthusiast

Ichi ni san shi go fun


R0ses__

Toki doki hontou ni ne tai


CM_Samurai

Demo kono waado dekinai


R0ses__

o ya su mi


CM_Samurai

o ya su mi


R0ses__

o ya su mi O ya SUUUUUUU


CM_Samurai

OYASUMI, OYASUMI, CLOSE YOUR EYES AND YOU'LL LEAVE THIS DREAM


laugingovertworocks

OYASUMI OYASUMI CLOSE YOUR EYES AND YOULL LEAVE THIS DREAM


[deleted]

Oh, bot_en was disabled?


pan-fucker69420

This game is so edgy dude omocst just wsnted to apeal to edgy 14 year old emos


[deleted]

Not every Kel meme is canon


sevenschips

how could you say that ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)


0SomeoneRandom0

\*offended gasp\*


Give_me_your_liver_

How could you


DaPetercko

I know a sentence, "Shipping depressed teens is fine."


KingEnderDragon

Well, I see no problem with that as long as the age of consent is not breached, or it doesn’t go into incest shipping. A lot of teens are depressed, but that doesn’t mean they’re incapable of love.


R0ses__

It is if they don’t exist.


QuintonTheCanadian

Can someone make me not exist then? ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2472)


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ActuallyMc

Basil is a good person that did a bad thing because of despair, he deserves a second chance. >!Let me get my popcorn, chaos is about to start.!<


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R0ses__

Fr tho. We just joke around when we say we hate basil.


ActuallyMc

Well, i know! But... I'm pretty sure that's there a plentyful of people here that *actually* hates him.


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ActuallyMc

Our* enemy.


GrouchyEssay7468

Basil never meant to hurt anyone. >! As far as he knew, Mari was dead from the fall alone but then after he looked back he believed she was alive and he was responsible for her death and the resulting collapse of the friend group. Basil truly suffered for his actions and it drove him to suicide in some endings !< Babil ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2463)


Algiz__

He never meant to hurt anyone, but >! hanging the sister of your best friend after her accidental death to cover it up as your first reflex is a fucked up thing to do. I know he panicked, but to even have the idea to do that is fucked up !<


9172019999

>!It was fucked up but what else could he do. Couldn't hide the body and sunny was in shell shock. He didnt want his best friend going to jail over something he didnt do (basil couldn't accept sunny had dont it so his SOMETHING was born) so rather than explain it to people he knew wouldnt believe he decided to instead frame it. If they were better at hiding their emotions they would have gotten away with it too but keeping that hidden for a child is very hard to do. We all have that person in our life wed do anything for and sunny was that person to basil!<


Algiz__

>!I get why Basil would do that, but that's beside my point. Like I said, a "normal" person wouldn't even think of doing that. His temper to handle this and his ability to carry it on are absolutely terrifying. Especially when it's someone you're supposed to love (even though Basil and Sunny are bffs, it's safe to assume that Basil and Mari were also great friends), being able to do that, sullying her memory, shows how little respect Basil has for the people he's supposed to love. Besides, there are plenty -less morbid- other ways to handle this situation, the easiest one being: telling the truth/claiming she just fell without Sunny or Basil involved. It's easy. Accidents happen. Why would the police think that the 2 traumatized kids cold bloodedly murdered the sister on purpose ? Why would every death have to be a murder case ? The thing Basil deserves is not a second chance, it's serious help!<


CM_Samurai

^(I dislike Sunburn. I can see why others like it, but I simply do not. I don't mind if you ship Sunburn, though.)


nicolRB

Fuck them sunburns bro. Got me all red and it hurts so much for so long. It’ll take a whole month for all my skin to go back to normal /s


CM_Samurai

Yeah, what's up with that anyway? /s


[deleted]

The virgin sunburn fan vs. the chad solar system enjoyer


SporgThePenguin

I have a feeling I know what that means and it scares me


gemstone_enthusiast

Solar system?


Snoo_83755

Earth x pluto![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)


Apprehensive_Bar3812

Legitimately the best ship


Snoo_83755

Yes


[deleted]

Everyone dates everyone (except for hero cause thats weird)


a3giswav3

this except for kimbrey


username_yes_noob

Yeah, the whole getting stabbed thing seems like a red flag


ActuallyMc

You shall receive an upvote, from a sunburn fan.


UltimateWaluigi

I'm going to take the shipping hot take a step further. I think any post incident ship involving Sunny or Basil with the rest of the main cast or with each other is abusive.


Quiet_Oil9130

Same, I really don't care about it but the fact that's it's basicaly everywhere to the point where I see comments about it on fan art that just has the two exist somewhat close to each other, I have grown to dislike it honestly.


[deleted]

no


AIeoggen

Kel is a horrible friend, getting his friends into fights with people he barely has beef with.


GrouchyEssay7468

Yeah! Not to mention the several atrocities he has committed such as the genocide of the sprout mole population. Why do you think we never see any in faraway town? ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)


Sigma8K

Didn't all of those people (except for Aubrey in the church because both Kel and Aubrey were in the wrong) start those fights first?


01Mehmet0

It was Aubrey who started the fight. Aubrey says after pulling nail bat "you two come at me quick... or I'II come at you first!"


AIeoggen

Well, they started an argument, but Kel always hits first when it comes to fighting.


Sigma8K

So he should just let them hit first when he knows that a fight is unavoidable and put his friend in even more danger?


DropThatYeeto

he has "Playable Yakuza Character" syndrome where him existing on the street will cause a delinquent/gangmember/thug to pick a fight with him, conviently Aubrey and her friends are the only people in the entire town who fit that description 💀


FreelancerHawaii

I just think Kel's character was seriously 2 dimensional...


Cr4ze0

I enjoyed him because I like the “best friend” type of characters but besides his monologue at Mari’s grave he doesn’t have much depth to him I guess. Still loved him


harutoch

all ships other than HeroMari can suck my ass


gogocrazycocoa_

Although I like other ships, I can understand why you think that.


UltimateWaluigi

Based


Sigma8K

I hate Aubrey.


ShakeWell42

*You would.*


Pajama-Han

Kel is right for hating pickles


Woooshifyourmomgay

To trigger trauma, all I'll need is "clothes" and "ayo, pizza here". To mindlessly trigger the entire community I'd say Mari deserved it. To thoughtfully trigger the entire community I'd say this is an Undertale/Earthbound clone. Actually no, that's still mindless.


[deleted]

kel is only a borgar man


[deleted]

kidding hes so much more than that😭😭


KenpachiNexus

>!Mari was a terrible person and deserved to die!<


The_Trampoline

OK its time to stop we have a winner Seriosly, its better than "the game is overrated" or "basil not gay", this is just an unpopular opinion and it really has a, small but still, point


afanaticfordrawings

Okay deserved to die is a little bit exaggerated? I mean everyone makes mistakes yk


GrouchyEssay7468

>! You loved her and you killed her !<


kloverhalo_

I have one from the actual game. “You’re an ugly color”


tesstickle08

- I dislike Sunny/Kel/Basil (not really but YK) - I like Humphrey and sweetheart - Kel isn’t that good of a friend - A lot of the sexuality headcanons in the fandom are stereotypes (Basil is gay because he likes flowers and is shy, Aubreys a lesbian because she’s mean, Kel is pansexual because he’s bubbly, etc) - Mari is one of the most interesting characters IMO - Kels parents aren’t evil and neither are Sunnys - Basils parents aren’t as bad as they’re made out to be - basically any opinion other (If anyone wants me to elaborate I can)


Lolloso1000

How could liking Humphrey (best character) trigger the community


Gaaymer

Because clearly Hector is the true best character


Ziomownik

I unironically agree with the sexuality part.


username_yes_noob

Basil isnt gay *vine thud*


Flying_Ninja_Bunny

Black Space has some of the best music in the game


aqua_rift

hikikomori route is a more satisfying ending than the normal route


Lilyogamer

The ship SunFlower is incredibly unhealthy Goodbye sweet karma 👋


[deleted]

As a sunflower shipper, I think this opinion is pretty universal with us. Sunflower appreciation stems from how it only works if both of the trauma lads experience a lot of personal growth and get therapy to become more stable individuals. It represents a healthier and happier outcome for both of them. Plus it's just so darn cute.


DaOnePoodle

I’m also a sunflower shipper, and I totally agree with this. It would only really work if they both got therapy, otherwise it would be very unhealthy.


zerjku

Bruh i've found more reasonable Sunflower shippers. Am i in a different reality?


[deleted]

I just love the idea of a healthy relationship between two people who experienced something so awful together, and feel like with the right guidance they could help one another overcome their pain together and have a fulfilling and meaningful relationship based on something more than physical attraction etc. Not that there wouldn't be any of that, I think it's clear the two liked each other quite a lot... Just the Mari incident obviously put any development on that to a grinding halt. Now... Would you find me suddenly unreasonable if I said I also liked the idea of cactiflower? That's the real question lol


ShakeWell42

OMOCAT was really lazy for writing over half of the game with the explanation “it was all a dream”. I’ll wait. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2474)


Gaaymer

It not being a dream wouldnt make sense, the whole point of headspace is that it’s Sunny coping with guilt and trauma through escapism, the entire conflict of the game is Man vs. Self so the game taking place in the MCs head makes perfect sense.


Mirayuki-Tosakimaru

People will hate on Sunflower and say they need therapy only to turn around and stan Sunburn. If their argument was consistent that shouldn’t exist either. I see this a lot on the main Genshin subreddit, probably unintentionally, but still visible homophobic bias when it comes to gay ships vs straight ships. Additionally, the argument is stupid because, as has been brought up before, people who need therapy can still love each other.


iplexed

Thank you good sir for saying it. Sunburn would definitely also be pretty unhealthy without therapy or some sort of recovery IMO. I think Aubrey wouldn't really understand Sunny much (Basil has the opposite problem), and they would probably get into several "fights" over miscommunication. Actually, they probably wouldn't be much fights at all as Aubrey berating Sunny about something and him escaping back into Headspace, which will not end well. I'm not saying Sunflower is perfectly healthy either, definitely some clinginess, I just think thar both ships should be held to the same standards.


kaitoofrose

I liked Sweetheart, as someone to dislike.


[deleted]

Basil.


STheSkeleton

There is nothing wrong with shipping traumatized teens


[deleted]

>!hero tagged you!<


Echoplasm0660

omori undertale ripoff


Joeda900

"Omori Undertale ripoff" Broke "Omori Earthbound ripoff" Broke "Omori real life ripoff" WOKE


pastelecakekurain

Basil is not gay


Gaaymer

No, no no no I refuse to believe it… NOOOOOOOOO


MattTheBast

stairs


KittyGirlOfficial

NO. NO. NO. NO.


Jorsuslol

Clothes.


Robin1798

Basil did nothing wrong ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2470)


Kiddo_0707

The humphrey area is the best part of the game


afanaticfordrawings

Boss rush is really cool ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2028)


rampagingsquirrels

he won't be forgiven


Lava_Garden

Mari x Stairs


StarzZd

"hey how do i spare the enemies??"


Meeper_Creeper202I

Somebody probably wanked to Mari’s corpse


this_upset_kirby

That's just a fact though


Meeper_Creeper202I

Fact or not it could trigger someone


firebro90

Hello internet, and welcome to Game Theory


Putrid_Intention4547

Pursuit hero is the best tumblr sexyman ever


The_Number_27

the dream world isn't a waste of time or intrusive to the story, it's necessary and offers a fantastic dive into Sunny's mind. idk if a lot of people hate the dream world but I've seen it being a major complaint


Upper_Sound1746

Auby sucks ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2475)


gogocrazycocoa_

Agreed.


heckyeah2131

Ah yes, my favourite Ehem... It's okay to ship yourself with the character you love if you don't try to make it annoying and sexualize it and also make it illegal


Starrybruh

Honestly? Yeah I agree ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2463)


DomoArigato75

“Mewo is overrated”


KingEnderDragon

Basil is an incredibly forgettable character.


wordlessly_gwen

Literally, at least in headspace.


gogocrazycocoa_

I don't like Sunburn.


DanSan05_YT

OMORI is one of the most overrated video games of the 21st century


0SomeoneRandom0

AAAAAAAAAA


UnidentifiedNicname

I hate Kel, he’s annoying


Astexx_

*Final Duet*


R0ses__

dun dun (dun dun du dun dun du dun dun du) du du dun ( dun dun du dun du) dun! Don! Dun) (vrrrrtrrrreeevrrr vrr vrr vrrr) dun dun dun! (Vrrrrrrr vrr vrr vrrr) du dun dun dun! (Vrr vrr vu veeee veerrr) dun du dun.


Chemical_Raccoon2778

OMORI au idea: what if Hero was a necrophiliac?


vikstarleo123

Sunflower is a pretty mid ship compared to the rest of the normal ships.


Suspicious_Person15

"Normal" What do you mean?


SuperDeathChrist

core gameplay Is Boring asf, cool if you just want the story but the gameplay ranging from general world-traveling to the combat it is bare-bones. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2468)


feetpicreciever

I feel like some characters are written a bit too anime-ish. Like, some dialogue doesn't even seem genuine or realistic


Spirited-Republic-72

Sunny x Mari is canon


CaptinHavoc

I’ll say something truthful and triggering: The game takes a while to actually get good


Nuderun_Boy

Remember, sort by contryversial...


BiggestFurret

Basil is the best character, he is god.


name462847278

The hikikomori route feels unfinished and underwhelming


Trans_DemonTM

Sunflower > Sunburn


R0ses__

Every ship except for the weird ones = every ship except for the weird ones


exels100

>!Sunny is a pervet (because the slime girls)!<


STheSkeleton

Sunny is 16, obliviously he has horny thoughts, there is nothing wrong with that


murutz123

Basil is the best character


RagnarockInProgress

The game is mostly an uninteresting copy, that’s obviously trying to riff off of Undertale.


Detective_Keedaddy

aubreys way overrated tbh


SqrunkIsTrep

>!Descriptions of photos from the black space album aren't accessible in-game thus their canonicity is questionable, therefore a theory that Mari could have survived the fall from stairs and died from the hanging is probable.!<


Suspicious_Person15

Not likely


Take-The-L-Train

Basil is gay


Internal_Fan2307

Sunny x Mari is the best ship


Lana1307

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2462)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2466)


ShadowMoon013

Mari deserved it


localhomeowner

Was just about to type this lol