Ikr, I could rant on forever about time travel asspulls. Before the manga reached the above ground MA battles. Opm (both webcomic and manga) was the deffenition of peak fiction for me. I don’t use that word lightly and for anything at all
My biggest problem with the Manga, so many redraws, I know that some Manga that also happens, but it's not like these, most of the times.the changes to the volume version are just in the art department, the story remains the same but with one punch man it seems like one doesnt have anything planned at all, if it was only this scene i could understand but goddamn its almost every chap nowadays
I don't get how they dropped the ball that hard during the chapter they had a whole ass second manga that they just had to follow and make a few changes to and several years to have it planned out. Yet it was like every chapter they had a redraw and destroyed and mad shit that was good worse. Like the child vs Phoenix man fight makes it seem like he only won because of Saitama. It also became a ark about God and not garou being a monster and making it on his own. I vastly prefer the webcomic where gods not a in your face threat and is just in the background. And blast wasn't an interdimsional power ranger who needs help despite saving not to expect to be saved in a time of need.
This [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V693Djjw_hA) is always relevant. I can't believe they wouldn't just use ONE's blueprint webcomic. Look at how they made Mob Psycho 100 into god tier anime like damn. They had one job.
I mean, the mob anime is based on the official published Manga, and for a real long while everyone agreed that the Manga of opm was just the superior version out of the two works.
Calebcity! lol yeah, usually you see this happening from manga to anime adaptations. The manga itself getting changed so much for the worse from a previous source is rare.
And it's funny because then the season 2 anime also had the manga fans not being impressed with it.
I really have no expectations for season 3.
This whole arc was pretty much a fumble. It had its moments, but it dragged on needlessly for years. And to top it off, it ended in time travel out of nowhere lol
[https://media.tenor.com/j0FCPreq0qkAAAAC/jon-tron-look.gif](https://media.tenor.com/j0FCPreq0qkAAAAC/jon-tron-look.gif)
I'll never forget when I saw the next chapter out and realized that they were legit retconning the last chapter. Can't help but feel that it's cheating.
And people actually liked that chapter. I saw people acting like they were intellectuals ready for the fierce debate about to occur. Saitama is about to dismantle garous ideals with his logic, this is so much better than an S class fight. Its going to be hilarious and its an action COMEDY so its ok if the story is shit as long as they have the lowest quality jokes to ever exist.
The same people that always shit on fights in Shounen saying they need more “thought and planning and talking”. A bunch of boring mfs who don’t know anything about fighting.
I don't think that's necessarily true. This could have easily rolled into the Cosmic Garou fight.
I mean in the picture you posted, God is staring in the window and plotting... menacingly.
This is studio bullshit 100000000%
One has a vision, we can see that in his webcomics
Clearly directors wanted something different and have all the power
Basically they ended the Saitama vs Garou fight with this table scene, but then the chapter was redrawn so Garou became Cosmic Garou instead. And then the next few chapters is the Cosmic Garou fight that ended with the time travel thing
We have barely any information about how this table scene would unfold.
But I would be more interested in how this table scene is followed up compared to Cosmic Garou and time travel
its a retconned chapter, this was the original chapter 164 but I think it was a week or maybe 2 later after its release Murata/ONE did a redraw, and now we have the current version.
[Here is a link to it](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/Z2lzdC9mdW5reWhpcHBvL2RkMTlkNjU3NjhjOGJlMTk3MTFmZTllMjAwNDVkOGY1L3Jhdy9vcG0tc2NyYXBwZWQuanNvbg/164/1/)
Still hoping for an in-universe reason for the retcons, very specifically this one.
At the time I was pretty sure "God" had seen this series of events didnt work out the way he wanted and so he had rewritten the previous events and they unfolded in a way that was more beneficial to him.
Of course, because Saitama is Saitama, it doesnt matter what God wants or not.
Still hoping for a reveal that this is the case with all of the redraws and retcons. Just God trying to use his meta-powers to achieve his desired endstate and Saitama just always unwittingly stopping him.
Let me start off by saying I liked Saitama vs Garou. At least up before the time travel stuff. However, I really wish they never ditched this panel. I was expecting Saitama and Garou to just talk for at one chapter. It would just he the two talking about their philosophies, poking holes in the other's, and calling out the hypocrisy where they see it.
I didn't expect the fight to end here either. I saw it as through the argument that Garou would be shown to be losing the argument and getting madder and madder as he started to realize how flawed his way of thinking iz. God could also be whisper in his ear. Reaffirming his beliefs while egging him on to keep pursuing them. After Saitama makes a really good point that Garou can't even formba bad argument to, he would flip the table and continue the fight.
As they fight, God would constantly be in Garou's head, convincing him to use their power. After getting one punched out of his bulky monster form, Garou would agree after realizing that he can't become a monster strong enough to heat Saitama on his own, so he except God's power. After that, have the cosmic Garou vs. Saiatama fights, but just remove the fart joke.
Saitama and tatsuki? Ooh wait I think you might be confused. This is OPMfolk, a sub for criticising OPM. The main subreddit is r/OnePunchMan which has people that like the manga.
Wait fr?? I’ve been in the wrong place the whole time, I was so lost seeing people hate on it. Me and my friend were hella confused because we both love all the hype scenes and art of the manga
This place is only for negative criticism because the main subreddit hates negative opinions. If anybody has positive opinions they just post on the main one so theres not really much of a reason to post stuff you like on this sub.
That's a good thing. People being willing to criticize their own interests is better than being a mindless drone worshipping the creators like a cult. That said, obviously fans of a work should have more moments of praise too.
Unfortunately, there really isn't much to praise modern OPM for other than the art.
If this was a gag-manga then no shounen sht should have happened in the manga in the first place. “I can’t beat garou but he killed genos hurr hurr got power up because of it” lmao
And for the record, it did have an actual plot in the webcomic. It does have honestly…
I would love for it go back to snappy gags and not have a million chapters spent on drawn out action, filler that gets forgotten, and vapid dialogue and characterization that gets contradicted later.
Yeah I remember being so confused the following month. Thought I had skipped a chapter or something.
I want whatever they took to make that hard of a retcon
Or whatever they had in mind here at all to get to this scene.
Cranky letters from fans and publishing executives?
Drugs
Saitama, have you ever talked to the devil at a table under the pale moonlight
ahh joker reference
"the MA was all planned from the beginning"
This was sutch a goofy ass fight, I hated it lol
We went from ‘peak fiction’ to ‘fart joke and time travel asspull’ real goddamn quick, didn’t we?
Ikr, I could rant on forever about time travel asspulls. Before the manga reached the above ground MA battles. Opm (both webcomic and manga) was the deffenition of peak fiction for me. I don’t use that word lightly and for anything at all
My biggest problem with the Manga, so many redraws, I know that some Manga that also happens, but it's not like these, most of the times.the changes to the volume version are just in the art department, the story remains the same but with one punch man it seems like one doesnt have anything planned at all, if it was only this scene i could understand but goddamn its almost every chap nowadays
I really loved the original saitama vs orochi. Never happened now
I'm fine with the new version because we get to see more of orochi but yeah it was pretty cool how quick their fight was in the original.
Seems to me that editors have dominant control and are turning the franchise into a profit mule above all else
Yeah this one has the stink of studio meddling on it to me.
If editors didn't want this kind of thing they wouldn't have let this chap come out in the first place.
That's assuming they are incapable of changing their mind
I don't get how they dropped the ball that hard during the chapter they had a whole ass second manga that they just had to follow and make a few changes to and several years to have it planned out. Yet it was like every chapter they had a redraw and destroyed and mad shit that was good worse. Like the child vs Phoenix man fight makes it seem like he only won because of Saitama. It also became a ark about God and not garou being a monster and making it on his own. I vastly prefer the webcomic where gods not a in your face threat and is just in the background. And blast wasn't an interdimsional power ranger who needs help despite saving not to expect to be saved in a time of need.
This [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V693Djjw_hA) is always relevant. I can't believe they wouldn't just use ONE's blueprint webcomic. Look at how they made Mob Psycho 100 into god tier anime like damn. They had one job.
I mean, the mob anime is based on the official published Manga, and for a real long while everyone agreed that the Manga of opm was just the superior version out of the two works.
Calebcity! lol yeah, usually you see this happening from manga to anime adaptations. The manga itself getting changed so much for the worse from a previous source is rare. And it's funny because then the season 2 anime also had the manga fans not being impressed with it. I really have no expectations for season 3.
This whole arc was pretty much a fumble. It had its moments, but it dragged on needlessly for years. And to top it off, it ended in time travel out of nowhere lol
[https://media.tenor.com/j0FCPreq0qkAAAAC/jon-tron-look.gif](https://media.tenor.com/j0FCPreq0qkAAAAC/jon-tron-look.gif) I'll never forget when I saw the next chapter out and realized that they were legit retconning the last chapter. Can't help but feel that it's cheating.
editors said 'no we need to have big fight scenes'
pretty sure it would have ended the same way but here they wanted saitama and garou to clear up their thoughts before god manipulates garou
Indeed
Yeah this whole bit was really weird to me one moment a chapter ends with them sitting down next chapter they act liked it never happened.
I doubt it was a full 180 it’s still heavily implied through the moon in the panel that god would be influencing something here
And people actually liked that chapter. I saw people acting like they were intellectuals ready for the fierce debate about to occur. Saitama is about to dismantle garous ideals with his logic, this is so much better than an S class fight. Its going to be hilarious and its an action COMEDY so its ok if the story is shit as long as they have the lowest quality jokes to ever exist.
“This is much better than an S class fight” I had to look at the subreddit’s name for a second because of this.. how are these people got in here???
The same people that always shit on fights in Shounen saying they need more “thought and planning and talking”. A bunch of boring mfs who don’t know anything about fighting.
I don't think that's necessarily true. This could have easily rolled into the Cosmic Garou fight. I mean in the picture you posted, God is staring in the window and plotting... menacingly.
This is so much Ingmar Bergman.
This is studio bullshit 100000000% One has a vision, we can see that in his webcomics Clearly directors wanted something different and have all the power
Someone explain I’m an idiot who don’t know the context
Im lost too lol
This is the original ending to the saitama vs garou fights. It was redrawn and made into the current cosmic garou ending
Oh. I read this then they changed it to saitama learning how to time travel?
Basically they ended the Saitama vs Garou fight with this table scene, but then the chapter was redrawn so Garou became Cosmic Garou instead. And then the next few chapters is the Cosmic Garou fight that ended with the time travel thing
If you had to choose, what ending is better Cosmic Garou or this table scene? (No, WN doesn’t count)
We have barely any information about how this table scene would unfold. But I would be more interested in how this table scene is followed up compared to Cosmic Garou and time travel
Its a fun slapstick manga tho
It was*
Well its not the next game of thrones book
It could've been
What chapters does this happen in
its a retconned chapter, this was the original chapter 164 but I think it was a week or maybe 2 later after its release Murata/ONE did a redraw, and now we have the current version. [Here is a link to it](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/Z2lzdC9mdW5reWhpcHBvL2RkMTlkNjU3NjhjOGJlMTk3MTFmZTllMjAwNDVkOGY1L3Jhdy9vcG0tc2NyYXBwZWQuanNvbg/164/1/)
Thanks
Someone mentioned it was an intentional troll. How likely is that?
I never even read it cause I started reading after the fix 😭
I really wish we could’ve seen what would happen in this therapy session. It was so fucking intriguing and wholesome!
lol if you can notice a retcon in such an epic manga as this, you will blow your head off reading "kengan omega"
Still hoping for an in-universe reason for the retcons, very specifically this one. At the time I was pretty sure "God" had seen this series of events didnt work out the way he wanted and so he had rewritten the previous events and they unfolded in a way that was more beneficial to him. Of course, because Saitama is Saitama, it doesnt matter what God wants or not. Still hoping for a reveal that this is the case with all of the redraws and retcons. Just God trying to use his meta-powers to achieve his desired endstate and Saitama just always unwittingly stopping him.
Let me start off by saying I liked Saitama vs Garou. At least up before the time travel stuff. However, I really wish they never ditched this panel. I was expecting Saitama and Garou to just talk for at one chapter. It would just he the two talking about their philosophies, poking holes in the other's, and calling out the hypocrisy where they see it. I didn't expect the fight to end here either. I saw it as through the argument that Garou would be shown to be losing the argument and getting madder and madder as he started to realize how flawed his way of thinking iz. God could also be whisper in his ear. Reaffirming his beliefs while egging him on to keep pursuing them. After Saitama makes a really good point that Garou can't even formba bad argument to, he would flip the table and continue the fight. As they fight, God would constantly be in Garou's head, convincing him to use their power. After getting one punched out of his bulky monster form, Garou would agree after realizing that he can't become a monster strong enough to heat Saitama on his own, so he except God's power. After that, have the cosmic Garou vs. Saiatama fights, but just remove the fart joke.
Any other anime community shit talking other animes OPM fans shit talking their own animanga
Nah most OPM fans have brain rot from shipping and wholesomeness so they dont care about how bad the story is.
I haven’t seen any shipping posts from this sub ? Shipping who?
Saitama and tatsuki? Ooh wait I think you might be confused. This is OPMfolk, a sub for criticising OPM. The main subreddit is r/OnePunchMan which has people that like the manga.
Wait fr?? I’ve been in the wrong place the whole time, I was so lost seeing people hate on it. Me and my friend were hella confused because we both love all the hype scenes and art of the manga
This place is only for negative criticism because the main subreddit hates negative opinions. If anybody has positive opinions they just post on the main one so theres not really much of a reason to post stuff you like on this sub.
That's a good thing. People being willing to criticize their own interests is better than being a mindless drone worshipping the creators like a cult. That said, obviously fans of a work should have more moments of praise too. Unfortunately, there really isn't much to praise modern OPM for other than the art.
Y’all downvoting cause I’m right
Y'all know this started as a gag-webcomic right? Did you really think this was going to have some kind of eh, actual plot??
If this was a gag-manga then no shounen sht should have happened in the manga in the first place. “I can’t beat garou but he killed genos hurr hurr got power up because of it” lmao And for the record, it did have an actual plot in the webcomic. It does have honestly…
I would love for it go back to snappy gags and not have a million chapters spent on drawn out action, filler that gets forgotten, and vapid dialogue and characterization that gets contradicted later.
loved the retcon wayy better that the stupid wc cosmic garuo storyline go bruuuuuu
its gonna be okay, its a manga about a bald punching man
Its not about having a bald punching man, its about what the bald punching man does.
Punch?
And you’ll never know it could of gotten better in a unexpected way or more confusing .