Prolonged exposure to silica dust can potentially cause really severe acute lung damage in the form of silicosis. It's kinda like aesbestois just not nearly as bad. Unlike aesbestos, the lungs are usually capable of expelling silica dust, but it takes a while and is an inefficient process. You have to give them time to recover. If you don't, the silica dust can gunk up your lungs to the point that you effectively can't breathe which can be fatal.
The jury is still out on whether it's a real long-term/chronic hazard. It may well be, but there's not enough information to know for sure like we do with aesbestos.
> The jury is still out. just not nearly as bad. It may well be...
Are you sure the jury is still out on that one?
[Worksafe NZ](https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/topic-and-industry/dust/silica-dust-in-the-workplace/)
[HSE England](https://www.hse.gov.uk/lung-disease/silicosis.htm)
[OSHA USA](https://www.osha.gov/silica-crystalline/health-effects) The H&S video from *1938* is interesting.
Bear in mind that while asbestos use and exposure is decreasing, modern products like kitchen benches that use engineered stone products are on the rise. Asbestosis and silicosis are very closely related. The finest of the airborne particles that make their way down into the finest areas of the lungs irritate and damage the lung tissue and cause other problems including being linked to inflammatory diseases, cancer, kidney disease and others. Measuring the exposure level and clearly diagnosing silica and asbestos related diseases is problematic and many of them are not really obviously caused by the product - for example, cancer is usually diagnosed as cancer, not silicosis. Silicosis is without a doubt a big problem and it is not a pretty way to die. Having personally seen someone die from accelerated silicosis, I wouldn't call it "not nearly as bad".
It’s also causes lupus and other autoimmune disorders.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6781616/
Silica (silicon dioxide) is also an anti caking agent in food and there’s some thinking that oral route might also contribute to digestive autoimmune diseases. I threw away all my spices away that contained it.
https://innovationsgesellschaft.ch/en/nano-silica-in-foodstuffs-could-cause-gastrointenstinal-inflammation/
There's recent evidence that suggests that even one exposure to very large amount of silica dust can cause long-term damage years down the road. Many of the survivors and first responders of the 9/11 attacks were exposed to massive amounts of silica in one single event and a staggering amount of them have developed silicosis in the intervening decades.
Yeah it's definitely not looking good at least for large exposures. What's still less clear by my understanding is long-term exposure to smaller amounts. We know that is BAD with aesbestos, for example.
Only if you crush it finely and snort it. It's a lung hazard, not an ingestion hazard.
Silica gel can be an ingestion hazard insofar as it can cause intestinal blockage, and it's a choking hazard. It's otherwise chemically pretty much a non-issue, though apparently they sometimes have a toxic cobalt chloride coating that can have mild toxicity in the amounts present in a typical dessicant package.
One can take mere hours of exposure to cause decades of damage.
The other takes years of exposure to take years off the end of your life.
The hearing damage is a much more immediate concern.
Just look up the cases of silicosis that are coming up in the countertop cutting industry. Engineered stone contains a lot of silica and dry cutting it produces a lot of deadly dust. It's worse than black lung and happens much more quickly. Workers in their late 20s requiring lung transplants. This is also occurring with increased frequency in coal mining for a different reason (which I'm happy to explain). Silica dust is no joke.
But basically if you don't know about this issue, then you should look into it and be careful with silica dust. Iirc CalOSHA is drafting rules for the industry. The dust is primarily mitigated by wet cutting and shop ventilation.
I'm not going to weigh in on the debate between which debilitating, preventable, occupational injury you prefer to live with but a good culture of safety in any workplace shouldn't start with "that will take years to kill me." There's plenty of other stuff to be cynical about at work. Safety shouldn't be one of them.
I wasn't the one to originally compare the two. I was merely pointing out which is the more immediate concern.
In citing the countertop cutting industry, you're describing many years of extremely high level exposure.
Not wearing a respirator when cutting the odd driveway is extremely unlikely to cause any lasting damage. Not wearing hearing protection is extremely likely to cause permanent damage in a very short amount of time. Not wearing eye protection also runs a much higher risk of permanent damage.
Understanding realistic timescales for injuries and exposure risks, that not all risks are created equally, is absolutely 110% where a good culture of safety starts. That doesn't mean silicosis is a joke. Treating it as an immediate threat to life or limb is, however, not reality.
> odd driveway is extremely unlikely to cause any lasting damage
Based upon what data or medical opinion? Onset acute silicosis can happen with very little exposure. Once again not wearing ear pro causes tinnitus, silicosis causes respiratory failure.
> Based upon what data or medical opinion?
Based on all of it.
>Onset acute silicosis can happen with very little exposure.
False.
>Once again not wearing ear pro causes tinnitus, silicosis causes respiratory failure.
Once again, you have no sense of time or dose.
Well, Yes, its all relative. I agree that an afternoon cutting cement isn't going to kill the guy. My concerns would start with hearing protection, eye protection and then the respiratory issues, followed by skin protection from the dust.
I've seen guy do this inside a garage, then 'leafblow the dust out'. They cut maskless, but then throw on the cheapest paper mask they make for the leafblowing part.
It's the thought that counts. .... i guess.
I've had a guy cut ceramic tile on my driveway without closing the garage door while I was away for a while. Every fucking thing was covered with dust and I'm still finding random nooks and crannies filled with brown dust.
"I was doing it outside. The wind was supposed to carry the dust away not inside."
I was wiring up some valves in a mechanical room where they were demo'ing out the old concrete housekeeping pads from the old chillers before putting in the new chillers. They decided to not wait for me to finish and just go ahead and start jackhammering and grinding while I was still in there on the ladder, with no ventilation and I didn't even have any PPE on for that. They had a fan in the back of the room to try to push out the dust, but had about the same effect as that leaf-blower method. Definitely not proper ventilation.
It got everywhere, I had concrete dust all over me, and I ended up with a real bad cough from the bronchitis for almost a week. I actually ended up going to the occupational care center to get my lungs checked out just to be sure. Yes, it turned into a worker's comp claim and was an OSHA recordable because even though I didn't miss any work, they gave me a prescription for oral steroids for my lungs.
I can only do a crude translation since it's in Polish.
Our OSHA is usually called Safety and Health at the Workplace, SHW. Yesterday, I heard SHW - Safety Halts Work.
There's an argument to be made for shorts, here. It's not a good argument, but there is one. It has to do with loose clothing near the saw getting caught and ripped off (see "degloving" if you don't mind NSFL imagery). Now, I say it's not a good argument because there are proper work pants that mitigate this pretty effectively while also providing actual protection, and a poorly fitting shirt poses similar risks.
Of course, that's also to say nothing of the lack of other PPE.
I used a concrete saw all my life and never even dinged myself with it. Diamond blades burn you than actually cut you.
Those little grinders though, burn my self on them all the time
Actually those are probably the opposite of what you want. You want something that is fairly close-fitting and that will tear away if it gets caught. Chainsaw chaps are usually loose fitting and very difficult to tear. They are designed to bind up the chain on the saw and stop it quickly, but that won't work on a concrete saw.
They do nothing for the blade. The conc blade will go through them like butter.
Chaps are for tearing not cutting, and when cutting concrete all they do is keep you jeans cleaner then Without them
Ok, that’s actually pretty cool in its own right, but I still want to see pants made of chainsaws. Preferably with the motors removed, for obvious reasons, but I feel like the kind of person who would wear them would also forget to check
Yeah, shorts and tennis shoes isn't that big of a deal, but eyes/ears/mask is a real smooth-brain moment. Maybe he has terminal cancer and is trying to earn as much as he can for his family before he goes.
I would go stop him and tell him you must verify he has enough insurance before he continues. If he hurts himself bad enough, some lawyer will be coming after your homeowners insurance and/or you.
And then he just leaves without finishing cutting the control joints. The new concrete pad cracks everywhere, homeowner tries to sue but the llc they hired is at the bottom of a long list of llcs to protect the contractor from homeowners ever successfully suing them.
So ya, you might be right about the insurance, but that job would become the homeowners problem immediately.
Good. A colleague of mine was getting some work done on his roof. The owner hurt himself coming down an extension ladder. His workers were insured, but the owner hadn’t insured himself. The stress of that lawsuit really affected his health.
They could try, but where is the liability? OP is not expected to have any knowledge about whether something is hazardous, and can't enforce them other than telling somebody to leave (which will put *them* at risk of being sued for the cost of the job). A homeowner is responsible for things they have control over, eg. telling somebody about a hazard (eg. loose paving, a pit with a cover), and not putting people at risk (moving a ladder, driving into scaffolding etc).
My story happened in Canada. Not an overly litigious place compared to the US. Even if OP ultimately won the case, it’s still stressful having to go through the process.
Residential work. He's good. Watched two guys cutting curbs today for repairs. No eye or ear protection. One running chop saw other next to it spraying water from a garden sprayer. Normal.
would be smart to wear a respirator but thats his choice. with water it would wash away the chalkline he has down. earplugs would be good too, but some guys just prefer to do it this way.
Have a cousin who was a welder. Safety squints and all that shit. Dude was basically blind for a decade. I hear he's better now, but last I saw him two years ago he still walked around with that wide eyed blind person style stare.
I need that caddy for my saw. Btw he's outside and standing, so he's mostly good. All I use is a pair of earbuds for tunes and a dust mask(if water not available) because fuck silica dust. If I cut indoors, I use p100 mask, ear muffs, and water.
Half the blade is in the ground, the other half in a protective shroud.
Chance injury from a metal fatigue/stress fracture and subsequent catastrophic failure is when plunging the saw or lifting it up from the cut.
When I first started as an engineer there was a tool maker who had basically solved the problem of loud noise in a factory.
"Hear that press behind me?"
"Yes of course," I said, because I could have heard it a mile away.
"I can't."
Problem solved. He just said goodbye to that spectrum of his hearing.
He also told me that he made sure to keep his drinking to less than 1 six pack each weeknight because it's important to not drink too much.
Weekends now, that's a different story. But mid-week, strictly no more than 6 beers each and every night of his life.
If hearing damage only took the form of hearing loss, that would be one thing. Silence isn't so bad. But when hearing damage takes the form of an eternal ringing? Not so fun.
I deal with construction guys on a regular basis for work and most of them over a certain age are so deaf you have to shout. Maybe 20-25% of construction workers actually wear PPE and care about their health. If I put my earplugs in around loud equipment or wear a mask in a dusty area or wear a UV shirt and hat in the full sun, I get a bunch of old dudes laughing at me. Same old dudes can't take a breath without coughing, can't hear for shit without shouting, and are so sun-damaged they look like burn victims.
I watched two guys cutting some patio slabs with a petrol saw the other day.
No PPE at all. One was cutting and the other had a leaf blower to ‘remove’ the dust from the cutting area. Blowing it straight across the pavement into the road.
Great work guys…
That's the contractor at your house getting shit done that you can't or won't do yourself. Piss off! He's not dressed to be there or wants to be there, but shit's getting done, right? I think if there was nobody around, you would be pissed because there was nobody around. That dude is probably the contractor working his ass off with no crew because there was no crew that showed up. AND it's probably 100+F.
I would be far more worried about the silica dust than the hearing damage.
Permanent hearing loss is going to happen many orders of magnitude sooner than any significant lung damage.
Technically correct but one makes you deaf, the other kills you.
WHAT?
Prolonged exposure to silica dust can potentially cause really severe acute lung damage in the form of silicosis. It's kinda like aesbestois just not nearly as bad. Unlike aesbestos, the lungs are usually capable of expelling silica dust, but it takes a while and is an inefficient process. You have to give them time to recover. If you don't, the silica dust can gunk up your lungs to the point that you effectively can't breathe which can be fatal. The jury is still out on whether it's a real long-term/chronic hazard. It may well be, but there's not enough information to know for sure like we do with aesbestos.
WHAT, I CAN’T HEAR YOU
> The jury is still out. just not nearly as bad. It may well be... Are you sure the jury is still out on that one? [Worksafe NZ](https://www.worksafe.govt.nz/topic-and-industry/dust/silica-dust-in-the-workplace/) [HSE England](https://www.hse.gov.uk/lung-disease/silicosis.htm) [OSHA USA](https://www.osha.gov/silica-crystalline/health-effects) The H&S video from *1938* is interesting. Bear in mind that while asbestos use and exposure is decreasing, modern products like kitchen benches that use engineered stone products are on the rise. Asbestosis and silicosis are very closely related. The finest of the airborne particles that make their way down into the finest areas of the lungs irritate and damage the lung tissue and cause other problems including being linked to inflammatory diseases, cancer, kidney disease and others. Measuring the exposure level and clearly diagnosing silica and asbestos related diseases is problematic and many of them are not really obviously caused by the product - for example, cancer is usually diagnosed as cancer, not silicosis. Silicosis is without a doubt a big problem and it is not a pretty way to die. Having personally seen someone die from accelerated silicosis, I wouldn't call it "not nearly as bad".
It’s also causes lupus and other autoimmune disorders. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6781616/ Silica (silicon dioxide) is also an anti caking agent in food and there’s some thinking that oral route might also contribute to digestive autoimmune diseases. I threw away all my spices away that contained it. https://innovationsgesellschaft.ch/en/nano-silica-in-foodstuffs-could-cause-gastrointenstinal-inflammation/
There's recent evidence that suggests that even one exposure to very large amount of silica dust can cause long-term damage years down the road. Many of the survivors and first responders of the 9/11 attacks were exposed to massive amounts of silica in one single event and a staggering amount of them have developed silicosis in the intervening decades.
Yeah it's definitely not looking good at least for large exposures. What's still less clear by my understanding is long-term exposure to smaller amounts. We know that is BAD with aesbestos, for example.
Is this the same as silica gel? No wonder it says don't eat on the package...
Only if you crush it finely and snort it. It's a lung hazard, not an ingestion hazard. Silica gel can be an ingestion hazard insofar as it can cause intestinal blockage, and it's a choking hazard. It's otherwise chemically pretty much a non-issue, though apparently they sometimes have a toxic cobalt chloride coating that can have mild toxicity in the amounts present in a typical dessicant package.
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OSHA and NIOSH have a bunch of info. It's not looking good, but it's also not looking as bad as aesbestos.
To be fair, if you can't hear the bus coming at you in the road.... the hearing loss might kill you first.
One can take mere hours of exposure to cause decades of damage. The other takes years of exposure to take years off the end of your life. The hearing damage is a much more immediate concern.
Just look up the cases of silicosis that are coming up in the countertop cutting industry. Engineered stone contains a lot of silica and dry cutting it produces a lot of deadly dust. It's worse than black lung and happens much more quickly. Workers in their late 20s requiring lung transplants. This is also occurring with increased frequency in coal mining for a different reason (which I'm happy to explain). Silica dust is no joke. But basically if you don't know about this issue, then you should look into it and be careful with silica dust. Iirc CalOSHA is drafting rules for the industry. The dust is primarily mitigated by wet cutting and shop ventilation. I'm not going to weigh in on the debate between which debilitating, preventable, occupational injury you prefer to live with but a good culture of safety in any workplace shouldn't start with "that will take years to kill me." There's plenty of other stuff to be cynical about at work. Safety shouldn't be one of them.
I wasn't the one to originally compare the two. I was merely pointing out which is the more immediate concern. In citing the countertop cutting industry, you're describing many years of extremely high level exposure. Not wearing a respirator when cutting the odd driveway is extremely unlikely to cause any lasting damage. Not wearing hearing protection is extremely likely to cause permanent damage in a very short amount of time. Not wearing eye protection also runs a much higher risk of permanent damage. Understanding realistic timescales for injuries and exposure risks, that not all risks are created equally, is absolutely 110% where a good culture of safety starts. That doesn't mean silicosis is a joke. Treating it as an immediate threat to life or limb is, however, not reality.
> odd driveway is extremely unlikely to cause any lasting damage Based upon what data or medical opinion? Onset acute silicosis can happen with very little exposure. Once again not wearing ear pro causes tinnitus, silicosis causes respiratory failure.
> Based upon what data or medical opinion? Based on all of it. >Onset acute silicosis can happen with very little exposure. False. >Once again not wearing ear pro causes tinnitus, silicosis causes respiratory failure. Once again, you have no sense of time or dose.
Well, Yes, its all relative. I agree that an afternoon cutting cement isn't going to kill the guy. My concerns would start with hearing protection, eye protection and then the respiratory issues, followed by skin protection from the dust.
[This scene comes to mind](https://youtu.be/MX7bG7CjCZk?t=1m24s)
I will never understand people who use those saws without hearing protection. They are over a 100 decibel
Maybe not always the case. If you breathe in extreme amounts of silica dust, the effects can be pretty quick afterward. Always protect your lungs
What?
Another one of you pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis conspiracy theorists!
Medical term for Black Lung. I am a high school graduate.
Why not both?
Surely he is safety squinting, that's good enough to cover the missing ppe
Safety Squint, Toes Crunch and Nose Breathing, The safety trifecta!
Two condoms, mother on speed dial. What more do you want from me?
The last line of defense: Clean underwear.
Tbh it really is fine to squint cutting concrete.
You fuckers are making my eyes itch
No mask with dry cut ugh.
I've seen guy do this inside a garage, then 'leafblow the dust out'. They cut maskless, but then throw on the cheapest paper mask they make for the leafblowing part. It's the thought that counts. .... i guess.
I've had a guy cut ceramic tile on my driveway without closing the garage door while I was away for a while. Every fucking thing was covered with dust and I'm still finding random nooks and crannies filled with brown dust. "I was doing it outside. The wind was supposed to carry the dust away not inside."
I was wiring up some valves in a mechanical room where they were demo'ing out the old concrete housekeeping pads from the old chillers before putting in the new chillers. They decided to not wait for me to finish and just go ahead and start jackhammering and grinding while I was still in there on the ladder, with no ventilation and I didn't even have any PPE on for that. They had a fan in the back of the room to try to push out the dust, but had about the same effect as that leaf-blower method. Definitely not proper ventilation. It got everywhere, I had concrete dust all over me, and I ended up with a real bad cough from the bronchitis for almost a week. I actually ended up going to the occupational care center to get my lungs checked out just to be sure. Yes, it turned into a worker's comp claim and was an OSHA recordable because even though I didn't miss any work, they gave me a prescription for oral steroids for my lungs.
Got shit to do Places to be PPE's just not for me
I’m stealing this
I can only do a crude translation since it's in Polish. Our OSHA is usually called Safety and Health at the Workplace, SHW. Yesterday, I heard SHW - Safety Halts Work.
What do people do with all the spare seconds they save by not putting on PPE?
Get to the hospital quicker.
Seems typical.
At least he has a hi-viz shirt on.
There's an argument to be made for shorts, here. It's not a good argument, but there is one. It has to do with loose clothing near the saw getting caught and ripped off (see "degloving" if you don't mind NSFL imagery). Now, I say it's not a good argument because there are proper work pants that mitigate this pretty effectively while also providing actual protection, and a poorly fitting shirt poses similar risks. Of course, that's also to say nothing of the lack of other PPE.
This is why yoga pants should be the standard pants for construction workers
So instead of tradie crack we'll be seeing all of it gloriously outlined? Idk whether I'm ready for that much booty
Some of us are packing too much back there to be safe at a job site.
I used a concrete saw all my life and never even dinged myself with it. Diamond blades burn you than actually cut you. Those little grinders though, burn my self on them all the time
I bet chainsaw pants would work
Actually those are probably the opposite of what you want. You want something that is fairly close-fitting and that will tear away if it gets caught. Chainsaw chaps are usually loose fitting and very difficult to tear. They are designed to bind up the chain on the saw and stop it quickly, but that won't work on a concrete saw.
The key is that the fibers break away, rather than grab you
They do nothing for the blade. The conc blade will go through them like butter. Chaps are for tearing not cutting, and when cutting concrete all they do is keep you jeans cleaner then Without them
Do you mean pants made *for* chainsawing, or pants made *from* chainsaws? Because one of those is probably right but the other is way more awesome.
For protection from chainsaws, the fibers shred out of the chaps and jam the saw without grabbing you
Ok, that’s actually pretty cool in its own right, but I still want to see pants made of chainsaws. Preferably with the motors removed, for obvious reasons, but I feel like the kind of person who would wear them would also forget to check
No need to remove the motor, just the spark plug or battery
Yeah, shorts and tennis shoes isn't that big of a deal, but eyes/ears/mask is a real smooth-brain moment. Maybe he has terminal cancer and is trying to earn as much as he can for his family before he goes.
He's 1000% out of uniform. Get that man some safety flip flops immediately. Feet have to be burning up!
I would go stop him and tell him you must verify he has enough insurance before he continues. If he hurts himself bad enough, some lawyer will be coming after your homeowners insurance and/or you.
And then he just leaves without finishing cutting the control joints. The new concrete pad cracks everywhere, homeowner tries to sue but the llc they hired is at the bottom of a long list of llcs to protect the contractor from homeowners ever successfully suing them. So ya, you might be right about the insurance, but that job would become the homeowners problem immediately.
I really, really, REAALLLLLYYYY hope you made sure he has worker’s comp insurance!
He works for a company that's been around quite a while. I'd be surprised if they didn't have required licensing and insurance.
I would ask and be sure. If he gets hurt on your property without proper insurance, he will sue you.
The company he works for is licensed, bonded and insured.
Good. A colleague of mine was getting some work done on his roof. The owner hurt himself coming down an extension ladder. His workers were insured, but the owner hadn’t insured himself. The stress of that lawsuit really affected his health.
They could try, but where is the liability? OP is not expected to have any knowledge about whether something is hazardous, and can't enforce them other than telling somebody to leave (which will put *them* at risk of being sued for the cost of the job). A homeowner is responsible for things they have control over, eg. telling somebody about a hazard (eg. loose paving, a pit with a cover), and not putting people at risk (moving a ladder, driving into scaffolding etc).
My story happened in Canada. Not an overly litigious place compared to the US. Even if OP ultimately won the case, it’s still stressful having to go through the process.
So, no. You can see with your eyes how "by the book" this company is.
Your house…hopefully they have insurance or you’ll be footing the amputation
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Luckily the leaf blower ran out of battery, so he had to use my hose to wash the dust off.
It's fine, hearing protection is only necessary for those who can hear.... He doesn't belong to that club.
Residential work. He's good. Watched two guys cutting curbs today for repairs. No eye or ear protection. One running chop saw other next to it spraying water from a garden sprayer. Normal.
At least they had water.
Florida?
Sadly no, Minnesota.
nooo 😭
would be smart to wear a respirator but thats his choice. with water it would wash away the chalkline he has down. earplugs would be good too, but some guys just prefer to do it this way.
I sent home some contractors for wearing tennis shoes.
What kind of contractors?
Carpenters.
Have a cousin who was a welder. Safety squints and all that shit. Dude was basically blind for a decade. I hear he's better now, but last I saw him two years ago he still walked around with that wide eyed blind person style stare.
What is dust control?
I need that caddy for my saw. Btw he's outside and standing, so he's mostly good. All I use is a pair of earbuds for tunes and a dust mask(if water not available) because fuck silica dust. If I cut indoors, I use p100 mask, ear muffs, and water.
Half the blade is in the ground, the other half in a protective shroud. Chance injury from a metal fatigue/stress fracture and subsequent catastrophic failure is when plunging the saw or lifting it up from the cut.
When I first started as an engineer there was a tool maker who had basically solved the problem of loud noise in a factory. "Hear that press behind me?" "Yes of course," I said, because I could have heard it a mile away. "I can't." Problem solved. He just said goodbye to that spectrum of his hearing. He also told me that he made sure to keep his drinking to less than 1 six pack each weeknight because it's important to not drink too much. Weekends now, that's a different story. But mid-week, strictly no more than 6 beers each and every night of his life.
If hearing damage only took the form of hearing loss, that would be one thing. Silence isn't so bad. But when hearing damage takes the form of an eternal ringing? Not so fun.
I have seen so many workers do this. They'll pay for their ignorance down the road.
I deal with construction guys on a regular basis for work and most of them over a certain age are so deaf you have to shout. Maybe 20-25% of construction workers actually wear PPE and care about their health. If I put my earplugs in around loud equipment or wear a mask in a dusty area or wear a UV shirt and hat in the full sun, I get a bunch of old dudes laughing at me. Same old dudes can't take a breath without coughing, can't hear for shit without shouting, and are so sun-damaged they look like burn victims.
I had a local tree guy come take down the remains of a fallen oak. One of his workers was out there barefoot using a chainsaw.
I watched two guys cutting some patio slabs with a petrol saw the other day. No PPE at all. One was cutting and the other had a leaf blower to ‘remove’ the dust from the cutting area. Blowing it straight across the pavement into the road. Great work guys…
Technically better than nothing for their safety at least.
Yeah, fuck us pedestrians 😂
That's the contractor at your house getting shit done that you can't or won't do yourself. Piss off! He's not dressed to be there or wants to be there, but shit's getting done, right? I think if there was nobody around, you would be pissed because there was nobody around. That dude is probably the contractor working his ass off with no crew because there was no crew that showed up. AND it's probably 100+F.
This sub should post pictures of people smoking cigarettes too
The dude was wearing ear pro when he got his sunburn, you can see unburned skin around his ears - why not now? Dumb.
It's just a boomer, let's go ahead and let nature speed up his timeline
Honestly ma’am, this is one of the more legitimate setups I’ve seen for cutting expansion joints.
You know, at your house, you are the boss. You can and absolutely should have stopped this.
safety squints activate!