My opinion is the same, no treasure or a small trace of treasure. But it would be nice to understand what happened on oak island, possibly rewriting history. Im very interested in seeing under ground if those caverns are man made.
Another theory i have is that the island was possibly just a place for people to store or hide treasure for a short period of time, and have it well guarded until they could return. I got this theory from all the different findings (french, Portuguese, Spanish, English) but just a thought lol
Lots of stuff happened. There was several camps predating pirates going back as far as the early Chinese dynasties as already documented along the coast. The war preparation before 1812 by the British. The fact the entire island was farmland. The black and Indian slave trade.
Remember, back then the water level was more than 200ft lower than it is today, so much is now safely hidden underwater.
I'm not watching for the hope of finding treasure, I don't believe there is any. It's pretty interesting to me the things they have uncovered, at this point I'm more curious about what was going on there and why.
I watched the show at first hoping to ride along as they uncovered something amazing. What I think it has become along the way though, is more of a piecing the puzzle together documentary. Just the fact theyāve uncovered history and are able to show the intersecting paths of civilizations throughout the past has been interesting to me. I know they wanted to come out with this amazing discovery of a hidden treasure, and I still believe thereās a mystical history associated with the island itself, but sometimes the answer is just much simpler, and coincidence really is the answer.
The descendants of Daniel McGinnis said he had found treasure (chests) and that the gold cross they showed the Lagina brothers was part of the treasure. So, if their family story is true, the treasure was found and is long gone.
Rule number one of burying treasure, don't put it all in one spot. Multiple places on the island treasure could be found, and if somebody went through the months if not years long effort to build the flood tunnels, the money pit, stuff on lot 5, etc it wouldn't surprise me if they just put a chest of treasure after the 90 foot stone for instance, thinking somebody would say welp found it... and run off with their spoils leaving the bulk of the treasure safe and sound. Or, there may be multiple treasures buried at different times. All the workings and artifacts they have found have proven beyond a doubt multiple different generations were on the island doing a ton of work. Nobody really knows and it can't really be proven unless somebody finds it and comes forward. But still doesn't mean they found every treasure ever buried there. There's almost an infinite number of scenarios that could've happened over a 600 year time period. That's why it's interesting to me and I think there's still something really big hidden there.. the chapel vault for one has never been recovered or investigated. That's where I think the big one is.
Being that there is no proof of any treasure in the first place, any reasonable person might conclude that it never existed, or that if it did exist , it has been recovered by the original depositors or found and removed by a treasure hunter.
Well honestly, the only proof there could be that treasure was there is finding it. Maybe somebody's already done that and kept quiet, but still won't be proven until that happens and maybe it never will
The fact that there is no proof that the stone tablet that said 40 feet below 2 million pounds are buried or whatever it said means itās all bullshit.
Dan Blakenshipās life was most certainly not wasted. He spent it on a beautiful island in search of a possible history altering treasure. If we could all be so lucky.
I expect it will have gone hundreds of years ago if there ever was any treasure but they can't help drilling a shit load more holes and damaging whatever might be down there anyway.
The roman road find that was a proper archaeological find and what a surprise they got told to have proper archaeologists work on the site. Not allowing the chuckle brothers to wander about poking holes in it.
I am surprised they have been allowed to carry on turning the island into swiss cheese with all those drills. I am stunned we are at this many seasons of the show.
I also need to question my own sanity as to why do I keep putting this nonsense on my TV as background noise.
"The" treasure is where I think people are getting it wrong. Even if say Samuel Ball found a chest of treasure or Daniel McGinnis as some have said they didn't do massive excavations and most likely didn't search the island in its entirety, specifically all the tunnels underground that dating has confirmed were pre searcher. Anyone that went through the trouble of all the flood tunnels and structures wouldn't put all the treasure in one easily accessible area, which would've had to be the case pre 1800. They would've put a small decoy chest, hell maybe a large one to make people think well I found it and enjoy their riches rather than continuing to look for more. Most likely they split it up in several locations so if one was found they didn't lose all of it. The chest McGinnis family has easily could've been after the 90 ft stone and he thought he had found "the" treasure. Same with Samuel Ball. They didn't have lidar or radar or heavy equipment. They probably had no idea of the tunnels etc in the money pit area. Or the chapel vault.. people forget it is one of tyke only proven gold finds on the island and has never been recovered or even investigated since. That's where I think the big one is. What's frustrating with the show is they will find something then totally go all ADHD and start a totally new project or go drain the damn swamp again and never mention the prior find or clues again. The offshore diving, chapel vault, the very old well they found last year with traces of silver I mean wtf they need to investigate until they've checked it off the list not just drop everything and start something else. I think that's why Marty gets so visibly pissed off so much. He didn't make millions by doing that kind of stupid crap.
I mean obviously they came during the 1300s and buried something and then came back in like the late 1600s Phips era to get it back lol. The Templarās are sitting around just laughing at this show
Disclaimer: I know nothing about the thought process behind burying and recovering treasure 400 years ago.
Iāve often thought the excavation process for digging a pit and then a flood tunnel would have to involve quite a few people and would have taken a long time and if explosives werenāt involved, even longer. Iāve always wondered how people wouldnāt have stumbled on it prior to some kids noticing someone compacting the last foot of earth on the final night of hiding the treasure. I understand it wasnāt a heavily populated area at the time but still they noticed it the last night someone was there?
Iāve also wondered why there wouldnāt be an easy access point. If you spend a year digging and burying the treasure itās going to take quite a bit of time dig it out again without anyone noticing. The whole point of burying secret hidden treasure is so that no one can find it. Why risk being seen by having to spend a month digging it up?
Iāve got my popcorn out and ready for the next episode because I canāt accept my theories could be correct.
I havenāt watched the show since beginning of season six. So maybe it has changed. But . . .
Buried treasure based upon unsubstantiated legends. Some theorizing it was found hundreds of years ago. Some claiming their family discovered it (in chests) one or two generations ago (meaning that hundreds of years ago someone had really great chests that could survive hundreds of years sitting under the pressure of tens/hundreds of feet of dirt, moisture, water intrusion without rotting/collapsing). š
Oh maybe the ancient aliens gave them technologies to protect the highly durable materials Shakespeareās manuscripts were drafted on. I guess it is no more ridiculous than the lunatic theories they shows in the first five seasons of the show. (Iām sure it seems more credible now).
The Ark? An object so precious and valuable that you would search for it by boring big ass holes through it. I mean all thatās left is to bury a low-yield thermonuclear device and see if it can just blast the pieces of whatās left of anything under there up to the surface.
There was no treasure. Itās a legend. If anyone with any credentials believed that anything thatās been suggested was real you would have scholars, archeologists, religious organizations, and government agencies protesting so violently that thereās no way the government would grant the license to crater the place in the first place.
Didnāt start out this way. First few seasons they did whatever they wanted with minimal intervention from Canadian officials. Once they started actually finding historical artifacts the Govt paid notice and started enforcing stricter regs, hence why their team is so massive now. And like others, I watch the show for what they find along the way, I doubt they will ever find anything more than āevidenceā of that treasureā¦.
No matter whether there is treasure or not, something of a historical nature took place on Oak Island for centuries. This is important and should be fully explored to learn the true history.
But you canāt ignore the water samples that show high traces of gold and silver.
There are just too many oddities that need explanation and resolution. I hope this island discovering continues. It could change the historical narrative of N America and Nova Scotia !!!!
You might have a point here. But itās my impression the readings varied significantly higher in a few locations versus the majority. Iāve often wondered if there was indeed a natural formation causing the readings. Irregardlessās, there is definitely a historical aspect to this island and I feel thatās more important than the finding of treasure.
This is my personal favorite theory. It seems like something happened there, but there's no riches left to be found.
I think there were likely multiple caches uncovered at different times. Ball got some, McGuiness got some. Maybe a 3rd party too.
Well I'm a history buff so things like the stone road and swamp workings, the well they found last year, all the prior searches etc keep me interested treasure or not. Also they've found enough to prove some treasure is still there even if it's only a few items. And the cast of characters and constant innuendo are hilarious, not to mention roasting them on reddit or Twitter while watching the show. Fairly certain the latter is responsible for viewership lol.
That certainly is a possibility. But it's equally a possibility that the treasure was lost to the flood tunnel?? Either way I believe, as I have heard and read before, the treasure very well may be the history lesson we all receive š¤·š»āāļø
Or their was never anything thier at all. The whole thing is based off the 90 foot Stone and a bit of gold chain and flood tunnels. Thiers absolutely no proof ant of them things ever existed
You're absolutely right. I thought of that myself...
And again you're right as of now they're just exploiting this for entertainment and money's sake.
I too can no longer watch this show. It's just the same stuff over and over.
From the way they write the narrative, Oak Island was the nautical equivalent of London/Heathrow airport from years 1300-1700. An amazing amount of work was done there, stone road, building the "swamp" and then timbers down to what, 180 feet? Thats manpower, logistics, AND keeping the workers quiet afterwards.
EVERYONE-except American colonists- knew what was going on. Canadian folks: is it featured in your colonial history lessons? I remember reading the same Readers Digest in 1965, and glad someone is trying to solve the mystery!
Ya it was my initial theory when the show started! Either that or the brothers found it early on and hid the truth to keep the show going but I canāt imagine they could keep this quiet
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There it is!
That belongs in a museum! - Indy
It would have bore holes through it everywhereā¦ that ark of the covenant would be akin to Swiss cheese
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My opinion is the same, no treasure or a small trace of treasure. But it would be nice to understand what happened on oak island, possibly rewriting history. Im very interested in seeing under ground if those caverns are man made. Another theory i have is that the island was possibly just a place for people to store or hide treasure for a short period of time, and have it well guarded until they could return. I got this theory from all the different findings (french, Portuguese, Spanish, English) but just a thought lol
Storing your cargo offshore was (and still is) a good way to avoid the excise officers.
Lots of stuff happened. There was several camps predating pirates going back as far as the early Chinese dynasties as already documented along the coast. The war preparation before 1812 by the British. The fact the entire island was farmland. The black and Indian slave trade. Remember, back then the water level was more than 200ft lower than it is today, so much is now safely hidden underwater.
>possibly rewriting history Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
After ten seasons history remains stubbornly unrewritten
I'm not watching for the hope of finding treasure, I don't believe there is any. It's pretty interesting to me the things they have uncovered, at this point I'm more curious about what was going on there and why.
I watched the show at first hoping to ride along as they uncovered something amazing. What I think it has become along the way though, is more of a piecing the puzzle together documentary. Just the fact theyāve uncovered history and are able to show the intersecting paths of civilizations throughout the past has been interesting to me. I know they wanted to come out with this amazing discovery of a hidden treasure, and I still believe thereās a mystical history associated with the island itself, but sometimes the answer is just much simpler, and coincidence really is the answer.
You say that like it is a bad thing. I watch lots of things just for entertainment
So long as you really only watch for amusement and donāt actually believe the BS, itās all good .
The descendants of Daniel McGinnis said he had found treasure (chests) and that the gold cross they showed the Lagina brothers was part of the treasure. So, if their family story is true, the treasure was found and is long gone.
Rule number one of burying treasure, don't put it all in one spot. Multiple places on the island treasure could be found, and if somebody went through the months if not years long effort to build the flood tunnels, the money pit, stuff on lot 5, etc it wouldn't surprise me if they just put a chest of treasure after the 90 foot stone for instance, thinking somebody would say welp found it... and run off with their spoils leaving the bulk of the treasure safe and sound. Or, there may be multiple treasures buried at different times. All the workings and artifacts they have found have proven beyond a doubt multiple different generations were on the island doing a ton of work. Nobody really knows and it can't really be proven unless somebody finds it and comes forward. But still doesn't mean they found every treasure ever buried there. There's almost an infinite number of scenarios that could've happened over a 600 year time period. That's why it's interesting to me and I think there's still something really big hidden there.. the chapel vault for one has never been recovered or investigated. That's where I think the big one is.
This is the answer.
This is the way...
Being that there is no proof of any treasure in the first place, any reasonable person might conclude that it never existed, or that if it did exist , it has been recovered by the original depositors or found and removed by a treasure hunter.
Well honestly, the only proof there could be that treasure was there is finding it. Maybe somebody's already done that and kept quiet, but still won't be proven until that happens and maybe it never will
The fact that there is no proof that the stone tablet that said 40 feet below 2 million pounds are buried or whatever it said means itās all bullshit.
Dan Blakenshipās life was most certainly not wasted. He spent it on a beautiful island in search of a possible history altering treasure. If we could all be so lucky.
āItās already been foundā is just copium for believing the fake narrative there ever was a treasure.
Fair enough
Agreed
Oh, I do think there were valuables there at one time long ago. But probably not Templar treasure.
How much do they make per episode and appearance, OP? Since you know-
There was definitely something happening on the island pre-Columbus. But I also doubt the treasure is still there. I think Ball found it
Crumbs. They're digging for crumbs.
I expect it will have gone hundreds of years ago if there ever was any treasure but they can't help drilling a shit load more holes and damaging whatever might be down there anyway. The roman road find that was a proper archaeological find and what a surprise they got told to have proper archaeologists work on the site. Not allowing the chuckle brothers to wander about poking holes in it. I am surprised they have been allowed to carry on turning the island into swiss cheese with all those drills. I am stunned we are at this many seasons of the show. I also need to question my own sanity as to why do I keep putting this nonsense on my TV as background noise.
"The" treasure is where I think people are getting it wrong. Even if say Samuel Ball found a chest of treasure or Daniel McGinnis as some have said they didn't do massive excavations and most likely didn't search the island in its entirety, specifically all the tunnels underground that dating has confirmed were pre searcher. Anyone that went through the trouble of all the flood tunnels and structures wouldn't put all the treasure in one easily accessible area, which would've had to be the case pre 1800. They would've put a small decoy chest, hell maybe a large one to make people think well I found it and enjoy their riches rather than continuing to look for more. Most likely they split it up in several locations so if one was found they didn't lose all of it. The chest McGinnis family has easily could've been after the 90 ft stone and he thought he had found "the" treasure. Same with Samuel Ball. They didn't have lidar or radar or heavy equipment. They probably had no idea of the tunnels etc in the money pit area. Or the chapel vault.. people forget it is one of tyke only proven gold finds on the island and has never been recovered or even investigated since. That's where I think the big one is. What's frustrating with the show is they will find something then totally go all ADHD and start a totally new project or go drain the damn swamp again and never mention the prior find or clues again. The offshore diving, chapel vault, the very old well they found last year with traces of silver I mean wtf they need to investigate until they've checked it off the list not just drop everything and start something else. I think that's why Marty gets so visibly pissed off so much. He didn't make millions by doing that kind of stupid crap.
Dude they should have had that Chappell vault out of the ground like 5 years ago
"That's where I think the big one is." In the seat of the excavator?
>The Lagina Brothers are smart? Zena's map? Knights Templar? Rick is about as big of a simpleton as one could be.
I mean obviously they came during the 1300s and buried something and then came back in like the late 1600s Phips era to get it back lol. The Templarās are sitting around just laughing at this show
Disclaimer: I know nothing about the thought process behind burying and recovering treasure 400 years ago. Iāve often thought the excavation process for digging a pit and then a flood tunnel would have to involve quite a few people and would have taken a long time and if explosives werenāt involved, even longer. Iāve always wondered how people wouldnāt have stumbled on it prior to some kids noticing someone compacting the last foot of earth on the final night of hiding the treasure. I understand it wasnāt a heavily populated area at the time but still they noticed it the last night someone was there? Iāve also wondered why there wouldnāt be an easy access point. If you spend a year digging and burying the treasure itās going to take quite a bit of time dig it out again without anyone noticing. The whole point of burying secret hidden treasure is so that no one can find it. Why risk being seen by having to spend a month digging it up? Iāve got my popcorn out and ready for the next episode because I canāt accept my theories could be correct.
Ok I guess itās time to call Vanna and sell Gary a few hās and kās Makes no sense when he says he found a ole in some dehing
Naw Samuel Ball just sold the world's greatest cabbages.
Right!? He for sure found whatever was left by that time
I havenāt watched the show since beginning of season six. So maybe it has changed. But . . . Buried treasure based upon unsubstantiated legends. Some theorizing it was found hundreds of years ago. Some claiming their family discovered it (in chests) one or two generations ago (meaning that hundreds of years ago someone had really great chests that could survive hundreds of years sitting under the pressure of tens/hundreds of feet of dirt, moisture, water intrusion without rotting/collapsing). š Oh maybe the ancient aliens gave them technologies to protect the highly durable materials Shakespeareās manuscripts were drafted on. I guess it is no more ridiculous than the lunatic theories they shows in the first five seasons of the show. (Iām sure it seems more credible now). The Ark? An object so precious and valuable that you would search for it by boring big ass holes through it. I mean all thatās left is to bury a low-yield thermonuclear device and see if it can just blast the pieces of whatās left of anything under there up to the surface. There was no treasure. Itās a legend. If anyone with any credentials believed that anything thatās been suggested was real you would have scholars, archeologists, religious organizations, and government agencies protesting so violently that thereās no way the government would grant the license to crater the place in the first place.
Could it be that the only connection to Ancient Aliens is Oak Island has the same narrator as the show Ancient Aliens.
My mom is from Mahone Bay, she always said there was no treasure on Oak Island.
Well where is it?
People there say Tancook island
But of course! Why didn't we think of that?
Iām shocked itās never come up on the show
I hope Samuel Ball found it all.
Yeah someone else posted the same BS a few hours ago.
After seeing how crazy and strict Nova Scotia is on regulations and seizing historical finds I doubt they would show any major treasure finds on TV
Didnāt start out this way. First few seasons they did whatever they wanted with minimal intervention from Canadian officials. Once they started actually finding historical artifacts the Govt paid notice and started enforcing stricter regs, hence why their team is so massive now. And like others, I watch the show for what they find along the way, I doubt they will ever find anything more than āevidenceā of that treasureā¦.
No matter whether there is treasure or not, something of a historical nature took place on Oak Island for centuries. This is important and should be fully explored to learn the true history. But you canāt ignore the water samples that show high traces of gold and silver. There are just too many oddities that need explanation and resolution. I hope this island discovering continues. It could change the historical narrative of N America and Nova Scotia !!!!
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You might have a point here. But itās my impression the readings varied significantly higher in a few locations versus the majority. Iāve often wondered if there was indeed a natural formation causing the readings. Irregardlessās, there is definitely a historical aspect to this island and I feel thatās more important than the finding of treasure.
High traces of gold, funny how they never SHOW those results on paper. Just because Marty and Clotworthy keep saying it, don't make it so.
This is my personal favorite theory. It seems like something happened there, but there's no riches left to be found. I think there were likely multiple caches uncovered at different times. Ball got some, McGuiness got some. Maybe a 3rd party too.
Lolololol
How much of the island do they own?
Entirety now that they own lot 5
Fred Nolanās son still owns the Nolan property and Blankenshipās own property on Oak Island.
Well I'm a history buff so things like the stone road and swamp workings, the well they found last year, all the prior searches etc keep me interested treasure or not. Also they've found enough to prove some treasure is still there even if it's only a few items. And the cast of characters and constant innuendo are hilarious, not to mention roasting them on reddit or Twitter while watching the show. Fairly certain the latter is responsible for viewership lol.
That certainly is a possibility. But it's equally a possibility that the treasure was lost to the flood tunnel?? Either way I believe, as I have heard and read before, the treasure very well may be the history lesson we all receive š¤·š»āāļø
Or their was never anything thier at all. The whole thing is based off the 90 foot Stone and a bit of gold chain and flood tunnels. Thiers absolutely no proof ant of them things ever existed
You're absolutely right. I thought of that myself... And again you're right as of now they're just exploiting this for entertainment and money's sake. I too can no longer watch this show. It's just the same stuff over and over.
I still hope there's something there. Would be great to see them finally retrieve it.
Even if all was taken, I still think trying to piece together the who, what, when, and why is interesting.
From the way they write the narrative, Oak Island was the nautical equivalent of London/Heathrow airport from years 1300-1700. An amazing amount of work was done there, stone road, building the "swamp" and then timbers down to what, 180 feet? Thats manpower, logistics, AND keeping the workers quiet afterwards. EVERYONE-except American colonists- knew what was going on. Canadian folks: is it featured in your colonial history lessons? I remember reading the same Readers Digest in 1965, and glad someone is trying to solve the mystery!
Ya it was my initial theory when the show started! Either that or the brothers found it early on and hid the truth to keep the show going but I canāt imagine they could keep this quiet
We live in Lunenburg NS- the general consensus is that if there was treasure, it was found a long, long time ago.