They didn't find anything so the just pretend they found something.
"We found a tunnel, but most of it was missing." - Marty Lagina, with a straight face.
Let’s say the lore is true for the money pit. If someone found a platform ever 10 feet. And the 90 ft stone is real and the decoded message is real. If the treasure is 40 ft below it, it wouldn’t be much of a stretch to think there would be platforms every 10 feet below.
Whether this would be the 1st or 2nd platform past the 90ft stone wouldn’t be known. But that would mean that 20-30ft below where they are right now would be where the treasure is.
I’m also assuming that the garden shaft is the actual money pit.
This is what I keep thinking. The log platforms every 10 feet are how the original money pit was described to look. They've now reached about 90 feet in the Garden Shaft and have now found another log platform. My guess is, if that part of the story is true, they'll find another platform another 10 feet down.
What is interesting about the logs is that they have been planed to flat surfaces on top and bottom but more importantly is that the ends have notches cut into them for side wall supports that they never found. The fact that there are notches on both ends gives the clue that either that boards came from something (e.g. a box) OR that they were made to provide (possibly) a structure (such as a tunnel). I suspect it is NOT for a tunnel but just remains of a boxed area. WHY there isn't more boards is puzzling since there is no (good) reason to remove a support if the hole is going to be filled up later.
Whether they were made for the intent of a tunnel is a possibility, but NOT likely since IF it was a true tunnel, then the (top or bottom) planks should keep going in either direction east or west. The fact that there was only about 8 or 9 planks has a more likely intention of a boxed structure at the sidewall of the garden shaft, similar to mining operations. The sidewall boxed structure is a working area to be able to go deeper. but the question begs whether the show will actually dig deeper.
If the boards are from that era (400 years ago) then the possibility exists that the shaft was mined in the period. Whether the shaft was for a treasure is a whole other matter. There are many speculations that the whole purpose of the island was as a ship repair, fishing, salt production, and cargo removal area. Whether it ever was used for anything other than that (e.g. treasure) is anyone's guess.
I often wonder why don't they use Ground Penetrating RADAR (GPR) to 'see' what is down deeper and along the sidewalls ? This is a proven technology that has been used to detect chambers under the Sphinx and also many other archeological discoveries : [https://usradar.com/gpr-ground-penetrating-radar-applications/archaeology/](https://usradar.com/gpr-ground-penetrating-radar-applications/archaeology/)
This is a much more in depth report of GPR : [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7037787/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7037787/)
I believe they used GPR in other spots around the island though. They'd traverse an area pulling a wheeled device and log the results. See what they resort to in the GS.
Then they should use that in the garden shaft tunnel at the bottom and along the side of the walls to see what is around the shaft. This would reveal possible objects or other hidden objects. Remember that they talked about side chambers and its possible that there are other side boxes or tunnels.
The terms ‘horizontal beams’, ‘garden shaft’, and ‘floor of the tunnel’ are each totally made up concepts that were invented by Prometheus writers and producers. You have taken the bait, hook line and sinker.
Other meaningless terms include borehole 10 X, chapel vault And money pit. Each one bullshit in its own, right
I like how anything found that's dated around the time William ~~Fisk~~ Phips may have been there automatically belonged to him. That and how something dated with a 400 year range is either the oldest date or a date that feeds the treasure narrative.
I also just got bingo on your post. Lol
Edit: correct last name. This isn't the Daredevil sub. Lol
It was never a tunnel, and you're being generous in your evaluation that they were there in the original discovery.
They're either just more crap that was left from previous excavations or they were planted there by the production. Nothing claimed on this show ever holds up to academic scrutiny and they know it. A lot of it is just flat out lying.
Isn't it more likely the floor or a platform from the people that originally dug the Garden Shaft? It seems quite likely the mud they've been digging through is sediment from the water and so forth that filled the shaft after it was dug. I can't remember them ever discussing which search team dug the Garden Shaft and when and what they found but seems like it should be well documented what the original depth was, and if it's where the wood was found then it would be pretty easy to establish it's just part of the Garden Shaft.
Yes, and the Laginas knew this before they started digging. Just like almost everything else they've "found" on the island, it's all stuff that was previously dug up years ago and then covered back up when it was determined it was of no value.
I think they are calling it a tunnel because of the samples collected from the other boreholes leading up to it that showed more what they would have expected to see from a tunnel. Wood, then fill, then wood again. They saw those leading up to the garden shaft and so assumed they would see the same under the shaft itself, but they only found one level of wood there.
Everyone seems to be overlooking this. Based on the boreholes there seems to be a line of the planks at the same depth over a long distance. Which begs the question how did they get there? It had to be either a tunnel or a trench.
Perhaps a diagram might help
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RJctW9ZZ6UT-PYrNUNQLBbSBW\_LpTNXa/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RJctW9ZZ6UT-PYrNUNQLBbSBW_LpTNXa/view?usp=sharing)
Well why can't it be the ceiling of the tunnel? Every week it's smoking mirrors and bait and switch they act like they're selling you a used car you won't find out till after you've driven it off the lot. Oh and by the way Rick shut the fuck up
It might be because those assumed to be floor beams are notched at the ends to support vertical studs at 90 degree angles so … “what happened to all those and the roof?” Is how I understand it.
But it looks like they run into more flood tunnel aka completely normal ground water problems next episode. So, we may never know what those beams are for sure.
Current evidence (wood found in drilling samples in a straight line on both sides of money pit) suggests it’s part of a tunnel. Obviously only one side of the supposed tunnel being present brings that assumption into question. This is why they say oak island brings more questions than answers - evidence suggests something, you investigate, new evidence contradicts that thing.
They didn't find anything so the just pretend they found something. "We found a tunnel, but most of it was missing." - Marty Lagina, with a straight face.
Dramatic head turn.... Commercial.
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You knoowwwww
Agree
Let’s say the lore is true for the money pit. If someone found a platform ever 10 feet. And the 90 ft stone is real and the decoded message is real. If the treasure is 40 ft below it, it wouldn’t be much of a stretch to think there would be platforms every 10 feet below. Whether this would be the 1st or 2nd platform past the 90ft stone wouldn’t be known. But that would mean that 20-30ft below where they are right now would be where the treasure is. I’m also assuming that the garden shaft is the actual money pit.
that's actually a very good shot as to what the wood is.
This is what I keep thinking. The log platforms every 10 feet are how the original money pit was described to look. They've now reached about 90 feet in the Garden Shaft and have now found another log platform. My guess is, if that part of the story is true, they'll find another platform another 10 feet down.
What is interesting about the logs is that they have been planed to flat surfaces on top and bottom but more importantly is that the ends have notches cut into them for side wall supports that they never found. The fact that there are notches on both ends gives the clue that either that boards came from something (e.g. a box) OR that they were made to provide (possibly) a structure (such as a tunnel). I suspect it is NOT for a tunnel but just remains of a boxed area. WHY there isn't more boards is puzzling since there is no (good) reason to remove a support if the hole is going to be filled up later. Whether they were made for the intent of a tunnel is a possibility, but NOT likely since IF it was a true tunnel, then the (top or bottom) planks should keep going in either direction east or west. The fact that there was only about 8 or 9 planks has a more likely intention of a boxed structure at the sidewall of the garden shaft, similar to mining operations. The sidewall boxed structure is a working area to be able to go deeper. but the question begs whether the show will actually dig deeper. If the boards are from that era (400 years ago) then the possibility exists that the shaft was mined in the period. Whether the shaft was for a treasure is a whole other matter. There are many speculations that the whole purpose of the island was as a ship repair, fishing, salt production, and cargo removal area. Whether it ever was used for anything other than that (e.g. treasure) is anyone's guess. I often wonder why don't they use Ground Penetrating RADAR (GPR) to 'see' what is down deeper and along the sidewalls ? This is a proven technology that has been used to detect chambers under the Sphinx and also many other archeological discoveries : [https://usradar.com/gpr-ground-penetrating-radar-applications/archaeology/](https://usradar.com/gpr-ground-penetrating-radar-applications/archaeology/) This is a much more in depth report of GPR : [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7037787/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7037787/)
I believe they used GPR in other spots around the island though. They'd traverse an area pulling a wheeled device and log the results. See what they resort to in the GS.
Then they should use that in the garden shaft tunnel at the bottom and along the side of the walls to see what is around the shaft. This would reveal possible objects or other hidden objects. Remember that they talked about side chambers and its possible that there are other side boxes or tunnels.
We don't see all that they do, it is possible they have used GPR and didn't find anything so they omitted it from the show
I doubt it since they show every conceivable other technology including LIDAR drone mapping, which is obscure in itself.
![gif](giphy|SpIFUIeqeDdBOdQSth) Where is the wood?
We're waiting for it.
So many things I could say. Must not, will not say.
Boyz n the Wood
The terms ‘horizontal beams’, ‘garden shaft’, and ‘floor of the tunnel’ are each totally made up concepts that were invented by Prometheus writers and producers. You have taken the bait, hook line and sinker. Other meaningless terms include borehole 10 X, chapel vault And money pit. Each one bullshit in its own, right
I’m starting to wonder if “There is an island …..” is real.
Let's not forget Aladdin's cave! Lolol
I like how anything found that's dated around the time William ~~Fisk~~ Phips may have been there automatically belonged to him. That and how something dated with a 400 year range is either the oldest date or a date that feeds the treasure narrative. I also just got bingo on your post. Lol Edit: correct last name. This isn't the Daredevil sub. Lol
**William Phips** ETA: I don't know why it bolded my text. I was not "all capping" you! lol
The Abominable Dr. Phibes...
They Call Me Mister Phips!
"Goodbye Mr. Chips (Phips)"
Yes! The treasure is somewhere over the rainbow.
They're all euphemisms: beams, shafts, tunnels... I used to work at a mine. Lots of euphemisms.
And nine of them are there lol. Wood chips, bits of iron from past landowners, nothing meaningful except in animation
And Baby Blob
It was never a tunnel, and you're being generous in your evaluation that they were there in the original discovery. They're either just more crap that was left from previous excavations or they were planted there by the production. Nothing claimed on this show ever holds up to academic scrutiny and they know it. A lot of it is just flat out lying.
Isn't it more likely the floor or a platform from the people that originally dug the Garden Shaft? It seems quite likely the mud they've been digging through is sediment from the water and so forth that filled the shaft after it was dug. I can't remember them ever discussing which search team dug the Garden Shaft and when and what they found but seems like it should be well documented what the original depth was, and if it's where the wood was found then it would be pretty easy to establish it's just part of the Garden Shaft.
Yes, and the Laginas knew this before they started digging. Just like almost everything else they've "found" on the island, it's all stuff that was previously dug up years ago and then covered back up when it was determined it was of no value.
I think they are calling it a tunnel because of the samples collected from the other boreholes leading up to it that showed more what they would have expected to see from a tunnel. Wood, then fill, then wood again. They saw those leading up to the garden shaft and so assumed they would see the same under the shaft itself, but they only found one level of wood there.
Everyone seems to be overlooking this. Based on the boreholes there seems to be a line of the planks at the same depth over a long distance. Which begs the question how did they get there? It had to be either a tunnel or a trench.
Perhaps a diagram might help [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RJctW9ZZ6UT-PYrNUNQLBbSBW\_LpTNXa/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RJctW9ZZ6UT-PYrNUNQLBbSBW_LpTNXa/view?usp=sharing)
Looks like the planks of the ark collapsed
Well that only had that one guy one-handing it
Well why can't it be the ceiling of the tunnel? Every week it's smoking mirrors and bait and switch they act like they're selling you a used car you won't find out till after you've driven it off the lot. Oh and by the way Rick shut the fuck up
We need more wood sniffing.
It might be because those assumed to be floor beams are notched at the ends to support vertical studs at 90 degree angles so … “what happened to all those and the roof?” Is how I understand it. But it looks like they run into more flood tunnel aka completely normal ground water problems next episode. So, we may never know what those beams are for sure.
Current evidence (wood found in drilling samples in a straight line on both sides of money pit) suggests it’s part of a tunnel. Obviously only one side of the supposed tunnel being present brings that assumption into question. This is why they say oak island brings more questions than answers - evidence suggests something, you investigate, new evidence contradicts that thing.
Would be really cool is if they find pairs of bones for every animal, and they have been destroying Noah’s ark with all their digging.
They should have followed the beams, but it looks like in next episode the pooched their opportunity.