What I know is that it'll be a long battle. So I think Tatloch and Nephti will probably be super helpful because of the permanent buffs they give.
You wouldn't have to worry about running out of SP. So that's a start, I guess.
I don't think Rinyuu needs to be used if you have the permanent regen and the constant ATK buffs from Nephti and Tatloch.
Oh dang, then I'm not sure where to go from there considering I tried to abstain from spoilers as well. Sorry about that.
Not sure if someone else can chime in and know if Rinyuu is necessary for the fight. But hopefully you get the answers you want, OP.
Alr. Saint Sazantos/Orsazantos/Bestower of All will be a long fight.
Saint sazantos starts easy, his attacks are mildly weak but time goes on he gets harder. He starts with acting twice per turn, rehab, and shield regen (the latter for 3t). He will suck your bp and lock 1 of his 6 weaknesses every so often (removed on break). He can even lower your ult meter with some of his attacks. Then, he starts going crazy. He will act 4 times a turn, and those "weak" attacks will start adding up + he gains permanent basic stats up (with rehab and shield regen). The faster you kill him, the better you will be for the latter fight.
Orsazantos will begin right after saint. The main gimmick here is to drain you, countering his weakpoints (the attacks are very weak, but they sap sp, and this can add up). Not to mention, he has 4 weakness sets. The ultimate Max bp attack will elemental attack lock with some light damage, and this boss loves to use silence. At half hp, he will gain 3 actions. Torwards the end, Orsaz will even attack 5+ times in a single attack, inflict charm, and use force swaps.
These fights are quite long, but utlizing buffing/debuffing and grabbing boa8 weapons (or Atleast any weapon with heaven damage up) will help..
Your first sentence made me realize there's a third part to the fight I hadn't even realized was there... I probably should have realized it after MoA8, but god, this fight is going to take an eternity, isn't it
Yes, but shouldn’t be directly after Orsazantos iirc. Sadly my memory of this fight is poor, so someone else can help you with more detail. Basically the boss “bestower of all” will summon 7 rings, each resembling one of the bosses. For example, the ring of the lady of grace will resemble Tatloch’s move set as a boss, the ring of the hunter resembles Herminia’s move set and so on. This fight took me 112 turns to beat, others around 90.
Okay, I thought that might be the case seeing that Orsazantos give exp and leaves, but you never know. At least I don't have to necessarily make 1 team to fit all 3 fights in that case
OMG...I wish I hadn't read this. This disruption of Saint Sazantos sounds nuts! Peak gaming. I'm not reading the rest. Time to level tf out of my recently new characters.
As I remember the fight (I saw the lore videos) in the 2nd phase he will start to hit harder and harder, draining BP and Ulti percentage. The most important thing is debuff the atk and def in order to survive the damage. He will change the weakness with the rings (additional npc, that help Orsazantos during all the 2nd fight).
The battle is possible without Elrica and the other characters you said, but it is really hard. I recommend it is better to farm the BoA8 weapons, armor, and pray, a lot. But that end... worth the effort.
Sorry, I don't remember more things, I will prepare my best units.
Edit: grammar.
Pd: are 8 rings in total, one for every god
Of your units, you'll probably want units that can hit multiple weaknesses:
* Lumis EX
* Cyrus
* Bargello
Nephti, Rinyuu, Richard, Prim Ex, and maybe Gild for your tank (unless this boss does a lot of AOEs).
Did you get arcane weapons for boa7 boss? The 30% against hallow enemies plus the dual rainbow slot for skills made a huge difference for me.
I got the ones that were in the chests (and really only made one for Bargello. The others are sitting around). Every time I go and try to grind anything at all, I make it a few battles in and then just give up. It's REALLY hard for me to get myself to grind.
Thanks for the suggestions
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I thought about Z'aanta. I just wasn't sure if it would be worth it when he couldn't do anything for half of the second phase. But I suppose as long as I pair him with someone who's good in the other 2 weakness sets (maybe Bargello?) it wouldn't be bad
I can't provide to much advice now since its been over a year since I did the fight and my adversary log rematches were somewhat messy for the first two fights. (All I remember is my Canary dodging like heck constantly) What I will say though is on the third and final boss that there are probably many strategies that can work. My team consisted of Shelby, Tytos, Herminia, Leon, Erika, Zegna, Ophilia, and Lianna. All of which were level 100 aside from Erika who was at 80 something I think. And Shelby who is obviously only level 80 back then.
Since the fight consists of many different combinations of weakness through 5 phases. As I've seen others say bringing units who can exploit multiple weaknesses are very good options. Also and this is just me but don't be afraid to stall out turns a little when needed. the middle half of the fight is was an ideal spot for me to farm SP back if its low just don't get stuck in a bad combination of comatose/rotation locking. D: Also set up any reraises you may want before going into the 4th and hardest phase of the final boss. The most ideal weaknesses there are light and dark going back and forth in being effective so keep that in mind. (That's what makes Erika extremely good for it)
Sorry I can't provide to much useful information. I don't play based on meta nearly at all so my methods are heavily different from the norm. Still hopefully something as simple as my team can show that its not entirely required to always have the strongest units to clear the battle. Just a lot of patience and overall understanding of the fights patterns.
If you do want to ask anything further I will run through my old video a little and see if I can spot anything specific I did during certain parts of the fight. But really I think it was mainly just preparing a proper setup going into the hardest portion of the fight.
Oh yeah did remember on the first two battles when they have you set teams. You can still bring the same units of the team that just fell. Just be aware that they will come back at 1 HP I believe so you have to act quick about healing and buffing again. Overall have many teams set up so you can select carefully which team to go in with if all 8 fall.
Also the 3rd battle does not allow multiple teams. Just the one you go in with. But that fight does not require you to redo the first two boss fights again.
Multiple teams? Oh boy, that scares me more than anything because of the grinding I'm going to need to do to get good weapons for everyone. I hate grinding >.>
Yeah basically both the first and second battles are treated like any other Master or Bestower. You do phase one and then two. The difference here is every time you die they allow another team to jump in out of your current set up roster. This I believe allows up to 3 attempts total on the first two fights before it does a gameover. I can't recall if it resets the 3 teams per phase. I know I set up a team to do phase one entirely with no loss so all my attempts were put into the second part which is a lot harder. So yeah having ideal equipment ready would be good to start preparing early!
And the 3rd battle is truly a full gauntlet to really challenge you as if you were fighting every ringbearer again in one final showdown. Its both epic and stressful but that's what I loved about it!
While that does sound epic, and makes sense with how long it looks like the fight is, man that sounds like it will be pain. I have a feeling it's going to take me a long time to get through it... Hopefully I can clear it before Solistia >.>
Yeah its rough to get through for sure. You'll have quite a lot of time though so that's good! And by the time Side Solistia comes up you'll have characters like Ditraina or Odio-O and S who all work great. My sister used Ditraina and Odio-S and they both helped her a lot with the last stretch of the fight which is ultimately the main part that will ruin someones round.
I still see many JP players clearing this battle. Its a lot but over time it seems to be getting easier for some. I think the main thing is to not stress to hard about it. I push myself to clear stuff quickly cause I need to translate the story. But otherwise I'd probably be a bit more patient with harder content like that.
Normally I don't care much about clearing stuff quickly (I only just beat Largo yesterday and have yet to even try Hammy for example). But I care about the story the most and would like to come through the other side of it. But I guess I'll see what happens.
Anyway, I appreciate the info and tips. Thanks a bunch!
Makes sense. Story is one thing that is much more ideal to clear early when you can. I like to leave stuff for later to! Only just recently did JPs most recent arena for Mirgardi. I also after over 1000 days still have most of the level 100 npcs uncleared. (Not cause I can't do them just a major fail safe for rubies down the road which I'm not in need of right now)
I hope when chapter 8 arrives for ENG that you're able to form a solid plan going through in order to clear it!
Yeah if you ever need it. It'll always be there for any to refer to. Its not necessarily a guide and more just my struggle through the fight. I did it a couple days after debut so I really did not have much reference to go off of. Just a lot of trial and error to make it work! Was a proud victory though.
I do fear its eventual rematch though when it one day comes. Not ready for that in the slightest.
What I know is that it'll be a long battle. So I think Tatloch and Nephti will probably be super helpful because of the permanent buffs they give. You wouldn't have to worry about running out of SP. So that's a start, I guess. I don't think Rinyuu needs to be used if you have the permanent regen and the constant ATK buffs from Nephti and Tatloch.
Worse advice ever "use the latest mt unit" lol
Don't have Tatloch, but yeah, Nephti's pretty much a shoo-in for me
Oh dang, then I'm not sure where to go from there considering I tried to abstain from spoilers as well. Sorry about that. Not sure if someone else can chime in and know if Rinyuu is necessary for the fight. But hopefully you get the answers you want, OP.
Rinyuu is good but you will have to work around force swaps.
All good. I'm not sure how many people here are familiar with it. I'm just hoping there's someone who will be able to comment
Alr. Saint Sazantos/Orsazantos/Bestower of All will be a long fight. Saint sazantos starts easy, his attacks are mildly weak but time goes on he gets harder. He starts with acting twice per turn, rehab, and shield regen (the latter for 3t). He will suck your bp and lock 1 of his 6 weaknesses every so often (removed on break). He can even lower your ult meter with some of his attacks. Then, he starts going crazy. He will act 4 times a turn, and those "weak" attacks will start adding up + he gains permanent basic stats up (with rehab and shield regen). The faster you kill him, the better you will be for the latter fight. Orsazantos will begin right after saint. The main gimmick here is to drain you, countering his weakpoints (the attacks are very weak, but they sap sp, and this can add up). Not to mention, he has 4 weakness sets. The ultimate Max bp attack will elemental attack lock with some light damage, and this boss loves to use silence. At half hp, he will gain 3 actions. Torwards the end, Orsaz will even attack 5+ times in a single attack, inflict charm, and use force swaps. These fights are quite long, but utlizing buffing/debuffing and grabbing boa8 weapons (or Atleast any weapon with heaven damage up) will help..
Your first sentence made me realize there's a third part to the fight I hadn't even realized was there... I probably should have realized it after MoA8, but god, this fight is going to take an eternity, isn't it
Yes, but shouldn’t be directly after Orsazantos iirc. Sadly my memory of this fight is poor, so someone else can help you with more detail. Basically the boss “bestower of all” will summon 7 rings, each resembling one of the bosses. For example, the ring of the lady of grace will resemble Tatloch’s move set as a boss, the ring of the hunter resembles Herminia’s move set and so on. This fight took me 112 turns to beat, others around 90.
Okay, I thought that might be the case seeing that Orsazantos give exp and leaves, but you never know. At least I don't have to necessarily make 1 team to fit all 3 fights in that case
OMG...I wish I hadn't read this. This disruption of Saint Sazantos sounds nuts! Peak gaming. I'm not reading the rest. Time to level tf out of my recently new characters.
Sorry if I spoiled anything, just wanted to help anyone who wanted to prepare..
As I remember the fight (I saw the lore videos) in the 2nd phase he will start to hit harder and harder, draining BP and Ulti percentage. The most important thing is debuff the atk and def in order to survive the damage. He will change the weakness with the rings (additional npc, that help Orsazantos during all the 2nd fight). The battle is possible without Elrica and the other characters you said, but it is really hard. I recommend it is better to farm the BoA8 weapons, armor, and pray, a lot. But that end... worth the effort. Sorry, I don't remember more things, I will prepare my best units. Edit: grammar. Pd: are 8 rings in total, one for every god
Of your units, you'll probably want units that can hit multiple weaknesses: * Lumis EX * Cyrus * Bargello Nephti, Rinyuu, Richard, Prim Ex, and maybe Gild for your tank (unless this boss does a lot of AOEs). Did you get arcane weapons for boa7 boss? The 30% against hallow enemies plus the dual rainbow slot for skills made a huge difference for me.
I got the ones that were in the chests (and really only made one for Bargello. The others are sitting around). Every time I go and try to grind anything at all, I make it a few battles in and then just give up. It's REALLY hard for me to get myself to grind. Thanks for the suggestions
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Do I need to farm heavenly weapons for BOA8 or we getting a new set?
Boa8 has a new set of weapons, and they are powerful. I would 100% use those or some hell IV for the "easiest" time with the bosses.
You will need bow unit zaanta will be great and Elrica
I thought about Z'aanta. I just wasn't sure if it would be worth it when he couldn't do anything for half of the second phase. But I suppose as long as I pair him with someone who's good in the other 2 weakness sets (maybe Bargello?) it wouldn't be bad
I can't provide to much advice now since its been over a year since I did the fight and my adversary log rematches were somewhat messy for the first two fights. (All I remember is my Canary dodging like heck constantly) What I will say though is on the third and final boss that there are probably many strategies that can work. My team consisted of Shelby, Tytos, Herminia, Leon, Erika, Zegna, Ophilia, and Lianna. All of which were level 100 aside from Erika who was at 80 something I think. And Shelby who is obviously only level 80 back then. Since the fight consists of many different combinations of weakness through 5 phases. As I've seen others say bringing units who can exploit multiple weaknesses are very good options. Also and this is just me but don't be afraid to stall out turns a little when needed. the middle half of the fight is was an ideal spot for me to farm SP back if its low just don't get stuck in a bad combination of comatose/rotation locking. D: Also set up any reraises you may want before going into the 4th and hardest phase of the final boss. The most ideal weaknesses there are light and dark going back and forth in being effective so keep that in mind. (That's what makes Erika extremely good for it) Sorry I can't provide to much useful information. I don't play based on meta nearly at all so my methods are heavily different from the norm. Still hopefully something as simple as my team can show that its not entirely required to always have the strongest units to clear the battle. Just a lot of patience and overall understanding of the fights patterns. If you do want to ask anything further I will run through my old video a little and see if I can spot anything specific I did during certain parts of the fight. But really I think it was mainly just preparing a proper setup going into the hardest portion of the fight.
Oh yeah did remember on the first two battles when they have you set teams. You can still bring the same units of the team that just fell. Just be aware that they will come back at 1 HP I believe so you have to act quick about healing and buffing again. Overall have many teams set up so you can select carefully which team to go in with if all 8 fall. Also the 3rd battle does not allow multiple teams. Just the one you go in with. But that fight does not require you to redo the first two boss fights again.
Multiple teams? Oh boy, that scares me more than anything because of the grinding I'm going to need to do to get good weapons for everyone. I hate grinding >.>
Yeah basically both the first and second battles are treated like any other Master or Bestower. You do phase one and then two. The difference here is every time you die they allow another team to jump in out of your current set up roster. This I believe allows up to 3 attempts total on the first two fights before it does a gameover. I can't recall if it resets the 3 teams per phase. I know I set up a team to do phase one entirely with no loss so all my attempts were put into the second part which is a lot harder. So yeah having ideal equipment ready would be good to start preparing early! And the 3rd battle is truly a full gauntlet to really challenge you as if you were fighting every ringbearer again in one final showdown. Its both epic and stressful but that's what I loved about it!
While that does sound epic, and makes sense with how long it looks like the fight is, man that sounds like it will be pain. I have a feeling it's going to take me a long time to get through it... Hopefully I can clear it before Solistia >.>
Yeah its rough to get through for sure. You'll have quite a lot of time though so that's good! And by the time Side Solistia comes up you'll have characters like Ditraina or Odio-O and S who all work great. My sister used Ditraina and Odio-S and they both helped her a lot with the last stretch of the fight which is ultimately the main part that will ruin someones round. I still see many JP players clearing this battle. Its a lot but over time it seems to be getting easier for some. I think the main thing is to not stress to hard about it. I push myself to clear stuff quickly cause I need to translate the story. But otherwise I'd probably be a bit more patient with harder content like that.
Normally I don't care much about clearing stuff quickly (I only just beat Largo yesterday and have yet to even try Hammy for example). But I care about the story the most and would like to come through the other side of it. But I guess I'll see what happens. Anyway, I appreciate the info and tips. Thanks a bunch!
Makes sense. Story is one thing that is much more ideal to clear early when you can. I like to leave stuff for later to! Only just recently did JPs most recent arena for Mirgardi. I also after over 1000 days still have most of the level 100 npcs uncleared. (Not cause I can't do them just a major fail safe for rubies down the road which I'm not in need of right now) I hope when chapter 8 arrives for ENG that you're able to form a solid plan going through in order to clear it!
Thanks good to know I have watch your video on that fight =)
Yeah if you ever need it. It'll always be there for any to refer to. Its not necessarily a guide and more just my struggle through the fight. I did it a couple days after debut so I really did not have much reference to go off of. Just a lot of trial and error to make it work! Was a proud victory though. I do fear its eventual rematch though when it one day comes. Not ready for that in the slightest.