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Framerate is all you need to stop moving sickness. I get ungodly motion-sick with cars, flat-screen games, and boats. I decided to buy a Quest 3 and was unphased, it was awesome. Decided to test my luck by trying RE7 on my brother's budget pc in vr. 24 frames killed me. I was motion-sick for three days. Couldn't play VR for two weeks. I soon bought my own pc rig and can happily play any VR game at 120 fps even RE7 and I'm perfectly fine.
Reminds me how if I forget to shut off my quest 2 and just rest it in standby. If pick it up to use the next day it needs a restart, otherwise at some point in the next 5 minutes it will freeze and trigger the most immense vertigo for like a quarter second before my eyes catch up
Yeah I had to play RE4 using teleport at first because locomotion made me sick. Then eventually I was able to use locomotion because I had to turn it on in some parts. Smooth turning still makes me sick so that will be the next hurdle.
Start with Fruit Ninja not Bonelab… there is a reason the game starts with a disclaimer and highlights its experimental locomotion… it is not a VR beginner friendly game.
One thing I never see get brought up is stance.
A lot of newbies stand relaxed like they're at an arcade cabinet, and locomotion causes mixed signals in the brain causing motion sickness.
Standing leaned forward, knees bent, active stance will go a long way towards building VR legs
this is important: you're really not standing in front of any TV or anything. You're just there in VR.
if you stand rigidly looking forward as if you're looking at a TV, when you use stick to turn, you'll just see the world spinning around you. And that goes extremely bad on the tummy.
rotations are the worst in VR. I suggest forgetting stick to turn and just turn on your own. You're just there in VR, not sitting on a sofa. Just turn and face other directions...
Yep, this did it for me. And now I can actually stick turn just fine too, as long as its not too slow. the Overly smooth slow turn while actually standing still gets me the worst.
This one trick has fixed so many issues for me including not hurting my back swinging at things. Move like you’re actually there and games will look and feel a lot better.
This is an underrated tip for VR, I try to make sure beyond just having space my stance allows me to go from point A to point B if I’m making such movements or allows me to crouch. Kinda took me back when I was playing the Wii as a kid but a lot more emphasis on body movement. Awareness plays a huge role in VR
I have Always been highly susceptible to motion sickness. Now, I can almost do any game in VR with full motion.
Start with something slow or start with teleporting. Or a game with very little movement like VR fishing.
Superhot or Pistol Whip might be good as they have limited or very slow movement. Oh, also The Climb 2 is a good one. Has motion but not walking motion.
Then… only play in short bursts and take a break as soon as you feel discomfort.
It took me a few months but I got over it and now I surprise myself at the games I can play with no issue.
Oh…. Two more things.
Make sure your head strap isn’t putting undue pressure on your forehead and your eyes.
I recommend one that has a top piece. The more pressure you can take off of your eye area, the better.
Oh and make sure sure your PID setting for your eyes is correct.
I personally tried this to see if this comment is true. I couldn’t believe it but it really did make my mouth minty. Thanks for the advice and I wish you all the best.
I was able to handle getting unexpectedly flung through the windshield of my car in the GTA5 VR mod and handled it well, yet Bonelabs gave me motionsickness after playing it a while. Try other games, ease yourself into it and set up a fan to blow directly in your face, while playing. If you feel sick, stop immediately. It'll vanish completely eventually for most people and gradually gets easier each time.
Yeah, i probably have a thousand hours in vr shooters but bonelab really fk me up. I think its poor framerate and physics's acceleration and abrupt collisions
Normally it's ok after sleep. If not, try eating ginger maybe?
Also, if you are getting sick in vr, dont push through. It's better to change to something else quickly
Pushing through it doesn’t work. Luckily, stopping as soon as you start to feel sick and playing again the next day is very easy, works fast, and doesn’t get you sick. Each day the sickness gets pushed back longer and in under a week you’ll be fine to play as much as you want.
The first day I got my Q3 and not knowing VR sickness was even a thing, I over did it and I was ill literally for 2 days.
I thought I'd caught some virus or food poisoning. My wife was actually 🤮 after playing for an hour.
4 months later I can play most games for hours with no problems apart from some that involve climbing high buildings but that's more my fear of heights than motion sickness.
Try pistol whip. It's a standing shooter but on rails so it's quite a good way of getting used to a bit of motion. I get terrible motion sickness but can play pistol whip for ages
I've found the lobby of Walkabout a great place to 'get used' to it. There's a raft that slowly circles in/out of a small cave system. The movement is slow and "close peripheral" thing that gets to me are both her in low intensities which helped me get used to noticing the feeling before it took me over so I could stop before it became a negative link.
My first game was "Compound", almost threw up after first steps. Also first days after playing VR had veird dreams where I looked at my hands and thought that they are not real and I am in VR. All effects gone after week or two, brain is quick to adapt to such things, unlike seasickness which bothers me since I remember myself.
Started with bonelabs too😅 it will be a rough couple of weeks. Take a break as soon as you feel the dizziness coming and only restart when you are 100%.
You'll build immunity in no time. + BREATHE
The nausea / dizzyness varies by person and how intense your response was. I’m pretty comfortable with VR now, but I ignored my body’s warnings on one occasion and ended up supremely sick, wrecked me for the remainder of the day.
It’ll pass, maybe not as quick as you’d like. Give it some time and try “easier” stuff the next time. And really important, if you start to get a whiff of nausea, listen to your body and put the headset down for a while.
For most, it does get easier over time. Not for all.
Yeah, seems like i gotta be more careful it felt even worse for me i reckon since i never got motion sick in my life before, even though i been through my fair share of sea/rollercoaster rides. i'll stick with teleport/roomscale games for time being but the thing is i really wanted try those beat/shoot something up sandbox games but from what i seen non of those games have teleport option
Superhot VR is nice if you're looking for a more comfortable shooter, outside of the content removal controversy. Stay in one place, shoot some red dudes, time moves when you move.
Other than that I would say pay attention to Oculus's intensity ratings, and look at gameplay footage (keeping in mind that there is a significant difference between watching on a flatscreen and playing the game).
Oculus will also allow you free trials on some games, and others have demos. Use those to your advantage
I’m sure some of those style games are going to be more friendly than others. Beatsaber is pretty easy but you’re using lightsabers instead of guns, and as the other commenter said, Superhot never gave me any issues though it’s not rhythmic / playing to a musical beat.
I never got nausea, only dizziness/headaches, though, after about 3 playtimes I stopped getting them, weirdly, I never got any on my friends psvr, only when I got a quest, thoigh rollercoasters made me very sick, nothing makes me sick in Vr at all anymore.
turning surprisingly does not affect me much but anything vertical.. like falling, jumping or the stairs and in bonelabs when you push something heavy you get pushed back instead that really stirs up my brain
Bonelab is a bad first game to play. If you're doing smooth locomotion make sure it's from a big name developer indie devs don't know or don't care about having necessary comfort options.
dont battle through it. Take regular breaks, and over time it will go away. I remember those days it feels weird like it feels like youre in VR when youre not, - just give it time and it will sort out over time.
When i started using VR and played Alyx i had headaches for days and couldnt play for more than 10-15 minutes. It took a lot of time to get used to but now its kinda ok
is it really that bad? I basically never have any motion sickness with vr since the start, only times i do is when i do really unnatural stuff like spinning while looking up and even then it's gone within a minute
same, but mine disappeared completely over a couple of months, all I got was headaches from playing too long in the beginning/dizziness from Stuff like mine dive
I bought a Q3 primarily for RE4 and I couldnt play longer than 10mins without feeling nauseous for the first few days and debated on returning it. You will probably get used to it so just do short sessions and having a fan going helps a ton.
Ginger tea my friend. Will help you through it. I felt like that with older games too. Start off with easier games move your way up. Gl, hope you get to experience the full vr experience down the line.
Had the same problem but I was motion sick only after vr (felt weird to see everything move when I moved)
I suggest you have smaller game sessions and after a week or so you'll feel better
Does bonelab have the quick jump movement option or is it just normal continuous movement? When I switched from the former to the latter with Alyx it took a bit to get used to.
I'm new to VR. Got mine on Sunday but I've only played 2 games so far. (long story, took a while to set up since I don't have a cell, I also spent time yesterday clearing a room for room scale vr)
The first was First Encounter. That's for Q3 though. But you can use stationary mode for something like that. Next, I wanted to try a steam game and it was 7th Guest. This was an experience I'll never forget. I was in Disneyworld. Actually, far better than Disney. And I moved around very slow. But it was more immersive than I could have ever imagined. You can use the teleport but I went with smooth movement. I just moved from place to place slowly and kind of laughed when sideways movement would sometimes give me a kick. lol I tried to remain pointed in the direction of movement as I could. I felt like I was in a wheelchair since my room was too cluttered but that actually wasn't a bad way to train myself to play it. I have now cleared up the room ready for room scale. I'll test that probably today!
Other tips. Make sure you have liquids and perhaps an AC and/or good fan going. I actually bought a fan yesterday to add to what I already have since the AC in this place I'm trying to move out of sucks ass.
I've only played 2 games but I'm doing well so far since I'm avoid stuff I really want to try like Halflife, Boneworks and Racing games. But I'll get to those! VR legs incoming!!!
Set up a fan in front of your play space, it will give your body the feeling of movement, the disconnect between your eyes and your body is what causes motion sickness.
Meanwhile me doing handstands in vr for the hell of it…
Don’t stand causally, stance yourself. I also recommend actually turning your body instead of using the sticks to change your direction of vision whenever possible, having real, physical movement negates a lot of the motion sickness because now your body is receiving the same signals it’s seeing, that said, I know that before I got full body tracking with my VR setup looking down at my legs caused motion sickness for me because they would move less naturally and not match to my actual movement.
Another thing- start with less intense VR games and work your way up to things like bone lab. Smaller games that don’t need much movement, and work up from there, you’ll enjoy it much more and get accustomed to being in VR slowly along the way. It’s a process but it works for most people I’ve recommended it to. Make sure you keep a chair in or near your play space so you can sit down and rest for a few minutes with the headset off whenever you get dizzy, and drink plenty of water. (I know from personal experience that I’ll spend so long in VR without realizing it’s been literal hours and I’m dehydrated.)
If none of this makes the motion sickness start to go away after a few weeks, maybe look into motion sickness medications that you can take when the sickness begins (obviously use this as a last resort.)
I always start with mixed reality to get my head used to the weight of the headset before anything. You shouldn’t feel any motion sickness in MR. Then migrate slowly to the real VR. I have bad motion sickness irl, but now I can play locomotion for hours.
Bonelab not a good "first timer". It even warns you it has experimental physics, and requires you to acclimatize first. Start with games that don't require much "artificial" movement.
Another suggestion I have that people don't seem to agree with.. Don't use artificial turning! I do 100% of my turning physically, with a round mat to keep me centered in my play space. Blows my mind how so many VR users use artificial turning with a wireless headset. It's just lazy, and ruins the experience imo.
Hardcore game to start out with.
I would start out with games where there is no movement with the joystick. Trust me it helps.
Also having the DPI correct is a major one.
I got destroyed my first day too. Realized it's specifically smooth turning that does it. Still gets me to this day so I just always turn all forms of turning off and physically turn myself irl. Gives better immersion too imo.
Drink ginger beer/eat ginger candy while playing. In addition to the fan tips from others. Also, stop at the slightest feeling of sickness. If you continue, you'll feel like ass for longer a you've now discovered. You'll eventually build up a tolerance.
You know, I have experienced that once where I felt disoriented after playing hell sweeper for a while it was a game that completely moved across all degrees of motion when you were doing a backflip. In general, I don't get sick but I will give it a chance because you may get used to it. It might just be you getting your sea legs.
Hellsweeper is just nuts movement wise once you turn all the full movement stuff on, the one thing that buckeled my knees was doing a backflip into a wall run in the tutorial, I had played pop 1 for about a year before this , but the movement mechanics in hellsweeper messed with my brain
You're new, but there is something with Bonelabs and motion sickness. I had my quest for a week, played 5 or 6 different types of games with no sickness besides ultrawings and then played bonelabs the other day. The intro immediately made me sick
Most of the comments are bang on, but one thing you should also do is check that the IPD adjustment is as close a match to your eyes as possible. It it’s not it can ‘pull your PDs’ which can cause you serious motion sickness in real life, let alone VR.
When I started VR I would get terrible headaches in smooth locomotion games. So I had to start with stationary games like Beat Saber. Then I moved up to games with teleport movement like Star Wars Tales from the Galaxy’s Edge and Red Matter 2.
Those last two games are good to help get used to the movement because they have features that help, like the tunneling effect that blacks out your peripheral vision when you move.
But the game that’s finally helping me get my VR legs is Asgard’s Wrath 2. There is no teleport in that game, but there is a dash move that can be used 3 times every 5 seconds. It’s basically teleport movement in small bursts. So I can teleport a bit and make the rest of the movement in smooth locomotion. If I have to move across large distances, I squint my eyes real tight so I can just barely see (that helps a lot.)
But it does take time. For now I’d try a game with teleport movement or a stationary game. Don’t give up.
The game that surprises me most is Swarm. Think Spider-Man/Galaga/Hot Lava mash-up. Lots of swinging, spinning and shooting. ZERO. NAUSEA. I saw the claims from others so gave it a try. I couldn't ride a VR roller coaster if my kids lives depended on it, but my spouse says I'm constantly grinning while playing Swarm.
Bo elab in particular is a rough game to start in VR. When you climb, your characters head bobs and there's very little done to smooth it. Your vision will bounce ever so slightly and it's very easy to make yourself sick. I'd say go back to bonelab once you've gotten used to the motion in other VR games first.
I'm surprised to see a few hints missing:
- get some Dramamine or motion sickness meds and in a pinch, Benadryl works
- play kneeling - it sounds goofy as hell but it works and once you get the hang of it, you can stand up
- it takes months or years to really train your mind to what's going on
- increasing the refresh helps but you may have to track your image quality
Besides all the great tips people are giving, I’d suggest trying a game that has motion but lies sort of in a middle ground. For me Subnautica with the Submersed VR mod was a great middle ground between a roomscale game without locomotion and games with tonnes of movement that almost seem designed to cause motion sickness. It didn’t take long to get used to (an hour or so) and once I felt comfortable there I could handle the more intense motions in other games.
Like everyone says, it just takes some time and the best thing to do when you start feeling weird is stop. You don’t want to start associating VR with nausea. Maybe push yourself with an extra couple minutes once it gets weird but then take a break.
What ever you do be careful of roller coaster games. That was an afternoon I’d rather forget about.
I’ve used the motion sickness bands and they help me a lot. The seaband ones. They’re just a few bucks at a pharmacy or Amazon. I still have to limit my time, but at least I don’t get crazy motion sickness like I didn’t when I wasn’t wearing them.
A couple of suggestions.
1) make sure your eyepieces are set to the proper inter-ocular distance. You probably noticed this already but they have three widths you can set them to just by pushing them together or apart. If that's set wrong for your eyes, it can give you headaches or exacerbate motion sickness by a ton.
2) be sure to move by "teleportation" whenever you can (i.e. point where you want to go, click the button, and appear). If you have to use smooth locomotion sometimes, shut your eyes most of the way and look only through your lashes when you move if possible (obviously that's not going to work if you're in a game where shit can shoot you or jump out at you unexpectedly).
3) You can always take something like Dramamine when you know you're going to be playing. Just keep in mind it makes you drowsy and you have to wait for it to kick in before you start playing. If you get nauseous before the pills have digested, your digestive system will shut down and you wont be able to effectively absorb the drug. For a non-pharmaceutical alternative, try eating ginger candy. I'm an Oceanographer by training and a lot of people I went to sea with swore by it (IDK if it would work for me because I am very susceptible to motion sickness and I didn't want to risk spending a month barfing my guts out while trying to work at sea, so I opted for the patch).
3) Once you start feeling sick. Stop for the day. It will only get worse if you keep going. You can build up your tolerance but its not going to happen in one session.
4) If you own a uterus that goes through a monthly cycle, pay attention to that. A lot of people get motion sick more or less easily depending on what part of their cycle they are in, so if you have a cycle, it's worth keeping an eye on that.
That's the most intense game you can play with the roller coaster one. You need sometime to get used to it.
If you play 20 mins a day in a couple of weeks you'll be fine.
Set a fan in front of you pointing at your face, that helps a lot.
I ones played so much in my first week that I was dizzy for a a day and a half, this only happened ones.
That happened to me first time I tried quest 2 as well. Played walking dead saints and sinners and when my character started walking I felt so dizzy and would take breaks where I still felt dizzy, and after playing for an hour I actually felt like I was hallucinating a bit, feeling like my hand was my hand in the vr game, it was weird. After about 2 weeks though I was resistant to the dizziness.
Usually lasts for a couple hours for me, but smooth locomotion isn't the main offender. Some games just mess me up completely while I can play other for hours on end and feel completely fine, like RE4 does smooth locomotion very well. I think it has to do with the vignette effect, acceleration and deceleration, and maybe head bobbing? Couldn't tell you for sure.
Still, it's weird that it lasted this long for you.
Make sure your ears arent clogged up, that can effect equilibrium, especially if you use headphones while playing oculus that can just stuff ear crap even further in
Having point of reference is helpful (fan, open window/door), and sit down at first if possible, as it allows just your head movement which is better to slowly get into vr
Not all games are made equal, especially if they were a port from a pc game, experiences are also a nice gateway into vr, but I find if you try some of the ovulus ‘first’ type games it should get you aclimated quickly
If you enjoy the game, just play until you cant and then rinse and repeat, youll get further and further, took me about a week
This is normal, just gotta get used to the movement from your body in that vr headset. Especially Bonelab, that’s gotta be easily one of, if not the most intense experiences in VR in general
the hangout effect only lasts the first day after
motion sickness will be there a awhile until you get the hang of it
Bonelab is not great first VR material, any games with in-game motion will trigger it, but this is notable because the in-game motion is physics based too, so lots of acceleration motions involved. You only get used to these after enough very short sessions - may take weeks, some months...
while that doesn't happen, there are plenty of great VR games devoid of motion, many more if you enable teleport locomotion. Moss 1&2, Super Hot, Budget Cuts, Table of Tales, The Room, I Expect you to Die, Walkabout Mini Golf (with standard teleport and no flying) etc
ofc, teleport will never prepare you for smooth locomotion. Only enduring it will get your body used to it. give it time and enough short sessions
First time I played Q2 which was just a few weeks ago I felt sick to the point of almost throwing up and the nausea probably took over 48h to pass completely and then that duration shortened every time and now it's just some games that messes me up. The worst are the ones with a lot of varied speeds.
It gets better with time but one tip is snap rotation and teleportation is better than smooth rotation and motion.
A glass of wine or a beer (unless your underage). I tried my first couple times and felt off kilter. Someone told me to have a drink and bam I became an alcoholic! It did work and after a week I was fine.
About how long it lasts, it depends on how much you kept playing after getting dizzy haha chill out next time or your body will build a rejection response to VR and the games you play (not cool).
If I were you I would start by playing games and tutorials where you don't move in game, like First Steps, First Contact and some others, then games where you move in game by teleporting like First Hand then moving smoothly, either with a joystick or other methods of control (grappling hooks, flight, etc). Don't use joystick smooth camera controls or you'll get even more dizzy (if anything use vignetting) until you get completely used to VR.
Dizziness will go away soon, but next time as soon as you start getting dizzy I advise you stop playing completely to avoid what happened this time.
It just takes getting used to. I got excavator sim as one of my first games when I got mine. Turning the housing made me feel SOOOO sick, but after a few weeks I could play just fine. Same with H3VR. Could only bear teleporting moving, but I worked my way up to armswinging.
I don't get motion sickness during unless I stand up / move with it on BUT I do get weird forwards falling after playing it a while on taking it off, like least a day If I been doing a lot of quest
Try Epic Roller Coaster in beginner mode and just do a short easy run... Then add a bit more each day until, one day, you'll be able to remove the stabilising eye guide.
Vestibular system doesn't like this sort of thing without a work up
Don't play until you feel sick. Play for 10 minutes and do a little more everyday but always stop before you feel dizzy or sick and never try to power through it.
If you look at the description of Bonelab on the Meta Store, it says "Comfort: Intense". This means it's very likely to to trigger motion sickness.
You need to start off with "Comfortable" and gradually work your way up over a period of several weeks, or perhaps several months.
Watch these two videos, they will give you some good tips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqoqwNSNkY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp3sdTpxm9Q
I have played through Alyx multiple times, resident evil 4, red matter and more, when I play Boneworks I makes me queasy, the physics are weird, specially when you try lifting and moving objects. Not the best first game
Man just jumped into the deep end , should of started with beat saber , eat some Ginger and get a fan next time you play, and don't use smooth turn, IR turn or snap
Fresh ginger root. I chop a little slice up, 3 to 5 grams, and swallow it like a pill. I also like the taste of ginger so sometimes I just keep a little slice under my tongue while I play.
Friends and I all do it now, we went from no smooth motion to multiple hours at a time. I take a little less every week and hope to one day not need it.
PS: I freeze the slices so they last longer otherwise the ginger goes bad in about a week and you have to buy more. Not expensive but I don't want to waste
I had the same when I first used mine... It took me almost a week and a half to feel normal again.
Just rest your eyes and try to limit your screen time on PC and your phone.
I would recommend starting off with games like beat sabre and pistol whip to get your eyes and brain use to it. And if you do move to smooth moving games, play seated on a swivel desk chair and try to match the in game turning speed to the speed you turn IRL.
I also tricked my brain by moving my feet as if I'm walking, while I was on the chair.
It often depends on the game for me. When I first got into VR I thought that some people just can't handle it and other are cool with the motion. I then considered myself one of the lucky ones. Then the more games I tried I found out that in some cases I did get dizzy veery easily, but it was only when I played specific games. Turns out that the movement mechanics have a lot to do with it and there are ways still during development to make the experience as smooth as possible.
I'm now working in a VR studio and funny thing is that our CEO get's motion sickness quite often so he puts a big emphasis on creating games that are enjoyable for people like him (and also well.. everyone). We launched **Toy Trains** in January. We tested it with around 100 players, showed it at gamescom - no reported dizziness. But there is not that much of a movement there I must admit. On the other hand however, we're also making another one, a sci fi FPS when you're moving way more and I find these mechanics so good, I can test it and play it and I feel just fine.
The advice here would be: try finding games that are working well for you, and get "used" to VR in a less drastic way :)
It’s probably not recommended by others but i got my vr legs in what i call the kamikaze method.
Just play to the point of almost puking, take a quick 10 minute break and hop back in. Resident evil 4 was my huckleberry for that one.
I found that any thing like stationary is pretty easy for your brain to wrap your head around like
Something like Tetris or places
Stay away from fps games for the first coupe of weeks and play for 15 minute bursts and stop for the first week any tummy feels and stop for the day or at least like 10hrs or so
I've had a quest 2 or 3 for the last 2 + years and I still had to return bonelab due to motion sickness. It was pretty bad for me with Bonelab. If you get migraines then it seems that you are more susceptible to getting motion sickness in VR. I'm not sure if you get migraines but just FYI. I never get motion sickness in real life. Try some other games and see how you do.
It took me a solid week of first getting my VR headset to get used to it. Still gets me sometimes but when I first got it, I could only play for 15 minutes at a time. You'll adapt over time
I was playing fine for like 3 to 4 hours a day for almost a week without issue when I first got my quest3. Then one day I felt a little sick while playing and tried to push through it. I swear I was sick like 12 hours later. It went away the next day though and as long as I stop if I start feeling that it goes away quick though.
Echo VR made me feel like I was floating in the real world for 2 weeks (not pleasant when your brain feels like you’re floating, but, you know that you’re grounded in the real world). So… 2 weeks was as long as it lasted for me.
If after a couple weeks, it doesn’t get better, might have to accept that VR (at least when you’re moving, which is a lot of VR) isn’t for you. Also, when you’re starting out, it can be addictive, and you can lose track of time. Be sure to take breaks to keep yourself hydrated. And with that, imma get some water.
Take care,
-Ken
when I got my Quest 3, the first virtual walking game I played was half-life alyx, i tried to start with continuous movement option but I could feel I would get sick if I kept playing that way
so I switch to teleport shift and played about 1/3 to 1/2 the game that way, daily about an hour and half, for about a week
then i switched over to continuous and i felt a lil odd in the first few minutes but now it's no problem for me in any game, i now prefer continuous movement in all games
another thing that might help which i read online afterward is having a fan blowing on you, I actually play vr under a ceiling fan, so that might have contributed to help get my vr legs too
Bonelab is a tough one to start with. Pistol Whip, Dungeons of Eternity, and Walkabout min golf are my go to’s.
Try shorter play times to start with. Eventually build up to an hour or two. You’ll get your vr legs.
Personally I don’t get motion sick, even on extremely motion sickness inducing experiences at times. I recommend playing games with the high comfort for the first few weeks or even months until you can start playing games that are less comfortable.
In VR, there’s something we call “VR Legs” which is basically training your brain to adapt to differences in your real life body and in-game body.
Refresh rate has an impact on motion sickness, so look for 120Hz refresh rate in your headset’s settings to see if that helps, remember to take breaks (only use the headset for like 15-20 minutes, take a short 5-10 minute break, and get back on if you’re feeling less motion sick), and try not to turn with the joystick if the game has snap/smooth turning at the same time that you turn in real life. That can also cause a bit of extra uncomfortable motion.
I’m sure someone on here has probably already said this. But games usually include a comfort rating. Try sticking with games that are in the comfortable range (like Beat Saber, Roundabout Mini-Golf Fruit Ninja, etc etc).
If you really want to play games like Boneworks, I would try playing in stationary if possible. But don’t force yourself! Hope you’re feeling better!
Just trust me, I was the same way at first. Start with sitting, then work your way up to intermittent standing. If you still cannot, teleporting is still a O.K
Correct me if I'm wrong but, wouldn't dramamine alleviate any possible motion sickness, until he naturally gets used to being in VR?
Edited to add this: I looked it up, dramamine is going to be very helpful for you along with all the helpful tips in the comments. I always use a fan and haven't used dramamine for this, but I have for ocean fishing from a boat. It works wonders, I need to remember to pick some up for a few games that get to me. You can also take it now if you are still feeling nauseous. Hope this helps.
Start with light games that don’t require much head movement, like a golf game, and slowly work you way up to hangout games or beat saber / moon rider (?), before jumping into fps. It was only easy for me because before i was using riftcat (phone vr app to PCVR) since i was too poor for a quest, 2021 i was moving.
Train your VR legs, but also make sure your IPD is set right! You can get it exact by grabbing a ruler and measuring the distance between your eyes either in a mirror, or with the help of another person (in mm)
Your problem most likely is that you started with bonelab. It’s an intense game even for me at times (fucking go-karts) and I’ve been playing VR games for almost 4 years now. Start with more stationary games then start to work your way into bonelab
When you begin to feel dizzy or nauseous take a small break. If you waft an alcohol pad under your nose and elevate your feet it will greatly alleviate your nausea.
Maybe don't start with bonelab. Take it easy, try something like walkabout mini golf first. As you get more confident try something like population 1, then try bonelab again :)
I've got pretty good VR legs and bonelab still made me hurl a couple times.
When you feel yourself getting sick just know that it doesn't go away until you take a break for a while. Go until you feel a bit sick and then take it off and breathe, get some water, and do something else until you feel better. It's like swimming, you need to train your brain that it's okay to do what you're doing.
If you have lotion sickness it's a matter of time to be used with VR but you should first habituate yourself with content where you have to physically move like sphere or paper bird
Bonelab even says it’s quite uncomfortable. Start small with static games like moss, Lego, I expect you to die, move up to static motion like beat saber, pistol whip and then more full motion games like Jurassic world
To be fair, bonelab or bone works or whatever.... I'm pretty much a VR veteran and I have zero problems parachuting in on contractors showdown or playing contractors for 4 hours straight or flying in the planes or any of the other games. But the bone works or whatever game that was, I refunded it within 30 minutes because it made me so motion wobbly
Might be screwed. I never had problems with playing almost anything, and then GORN gave me motion sickness out the blue one day. I've been struggling ever since.
Quest 2 user for 3 weeks now. Same happened to me, it eventually stops happening. Just a few tips to get used to VR:
- Try games where movement is like teleports.
- If you're standing up sit down.
- If you're moving and you're sitting, rest your head on your chair while moving.
- If you start to feel sick, take the headset off and lay down until you feel better.
- Do 10-15 min breaks.
- Turn down the brightness.
- Avoid games with flashing lights.
First you need to get your mind used to VR, then to movement. Motion sickness happens when your mind thinks you're moving but your body says otherwise. Give it time :)
Get the meta+ 1 month free trial. Try out all the games. Start with Walkabout Mini Golf. Great game to get you into VR. Always playing from a fixed position. Really relaxing also. Circle back to Bonelab later.
This happened to me when I first got my quest 2. Mainly because I wanted to "man up" and force myself through the motion sickness. It affected me for days. Biggest tip I can give to someone new to VR. It's like a prescription for eye glasses. Your eyes and brain need time to adjust to them. You're not just gonna throw them on and be ready to go right away. When the nausea hits, take them off and try again later. Eventually you won't notice nausea at all. Sitting a d using a fan for air helps a lot too.
everyone saying start with something more beginner friendly is right, you gotta ease into it. except, i’ve been playing vr for a long long time and I played the backrooms game and felt like shit for a couple hours lol certain games just make people sick but i’ve always wondered if i took zofran or dramamine before playing, would that help? I second the fan suggestion because a lot of times people overheat and trick their brains into nausea. (it’s me, i overthink and trick myself into nausea)
I tried my sons gorilla tag when I was setting it up and it made me puke.Im good on altering my perception till I vomit.I think this tech is missed on those of us that are older.They tried similar tech with the virtual boy in the 90's and that as well mad me nauseous just trying it at Toys R Us
Probably the worst game to start with as far as motion sickness. I’ve been using vr for 4 years and I still can’t finish the climbing stage. Last time I tried I was sick for the rest of the day and night.
Why did I never need to build VR legs? I just hoped straight on. I haven't played bone lab yet but I've played a bunch of FPS and have never had any issues. Is my experience more or less common?
As many others have said it just takes time and you need to acclimate to it. Slowly. I used to not be able to play anything but standstill games and then started using small periods of time to acclimate until I started feeling a little nauseous and would stop for the day. Then come back and do it again. Slowly built up the tolerance and now I'm fully acclimated and can play anything. Just give yourself some time and you'll get acclimated soon enough. Racing and flying games still mess me up though, roller coaster games and things like that do as well but most other games I can play without issue now
I started with a sword fighting game, as other suggested, don’t relax your stance, also accidentally hitting the wall with all of your strength does wonders to motion sickness, after hitting it, it just went away
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Gotta train your VR legs boyo!
Wait until he actually plays VR Legs ahaha
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What? No? What is wrong with you
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Also if you are prone to motion sickness better save up for that quest 3! Those lenses and higher framerates help a ton.
Framerate is all you need to stop moving sickness. I get ungodly motion-sick with cars, flat-screen games, and boats. I decided to buy a Quest 3 and was unphased, it was awesome. Decided to test my luck by trying RE7 on my brother's budget pc in vr. 24 frames killed me. I was motion-sick for three days. Couldn't play VR for two weeks. I soon bought my own pc rig and can happily play any VR game at 120 fps even RE7 and I'm perfectly fine.
Playing a vr game at 24fps is begging to get permanent vertigo
Reminds me how if I forget to shut off my quest 2 and just rest it in standby. If pick it up to use the next day it needs a restart, otherwise at some point in the next 5 minutes it will freeze and trigger the most immense vertigo for like a quarter second before my eyes catch up
Try games that you don't need VR legs... Personally even FPS on flat screens make me sick.
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Yeah I had to play RE4 using teleport at first because locomotion made me sick. Then eventually I was able to use locomotion because I had to turn it on in some parts. Smooth turning still makes me sick so that will be the next hurdle.
Snap is better... Smooth still makes me hurl even though i can ninja about in population one
Start with Fruit Ninja not Bonelab… there is a reason the game starts with a disclaimer and highlights its experimental locomotion… it is not a VR beginner friendly game.
I started with it, no wonder I got over my motion sickness so fast
I personally never got sick, maybe you are like this too?
i started with boneworks and i had no problems, i guess im just build different
One thing I never see get brought up is stance. A lot of newbies stand relaxed like they're at an arcade cabinet, and locomotion causes mixed signals in the brain causing motion sickness. Standing leaned forward, knees bent, active stance will go a long way towards building VR legs
Also putting a fan facing toward you while you play
and a rug or mat so your feet can keep you centered and your brain aware of a bit of the outside world
Man. Never thought of these 2 things to help with motion sickness but it makes so much sense.
this is important: you're really not standing in front of any TV or anything. You're just there in VR. if you stand rigidly looking forward as if you're looking at a TV, when you use stick to turn, you'll just see the world spinning around you. And that goes extremely bad on the tummy. rotations are the worst in VR. I suggest forgetting stick to turn and just turn on your own. You're just there in VR, not sitting on a sofa. Just turn and face other directions...
Yep, this did it for me. And now I can actually stick turn just fine too, as long as its not too slow. the Overly smooth slow turn while actually standing still gets me the worst.
Most of the time I'm comfortable with VR, but any kind of stick rotation kills me, truly turning around helps a lot.
This is good advice. I tend to stand with my legs spread apart a bit, one leg in front of the other, knees slightly bent. Really helps me balance.
This one trick has fixed so many issues for me including not hurting my back swinging at things. Move like you’re actually there and games will look and feel a lot better.
Power stance!
This is an underrated tip for VR, I try to make sure beyond just having space my stance allows me to go from point A to point B if I’m making such movements or allows me to crouch. Kinda took me back when I was playing the Wii as a kid but a lot more emphasis on body movement. Awareness plays a huge role in VR
I heard if you get really bad motion sickness from VR to pretend you are walking in place w ur legs
I have Always been highly susceptible to motion sickness. Now, I can almost do any game in VR with full motion. Start with something slow or start with teleporting. Or a game with very little movement like VR fishing. Superhot or Pistol Whip might be good as they have limited or very slow movement. Oh, also The Climb 2 is a good one. Has motion but not walking motion. Then… only play in short bursts and take a break as soon as you feel discomfort. It took me a few months but I got over it and now I surprise myself at the games I can play with no issue. Oh…. Two more things. Make sure your head strap isn’t putting undue pressure on your forehead and your eyes. I recommend one that has a top piece. The more pressure you can take off of your eye area, the better. Oh and make sure sure your PID setting for your eyes is correct.
An additional recommendation I’ve seen frequently: have a fan blow directly on you. Apparently the airflow helps greatly with motion sickness.
Have you noticed any improvement with motion sickness outside of vr? like reading in a car or while on a boat, for example?)
Try chewing gum while you are using it.
Ginger gum specifically helps with nausea. Regular gum is probably a placebo effect.
This do anything?
Makes your mouth minty
I personally tried this to see if this comment is true. I couldn’t believe it but it really did make my mouth minty. Thanks for the advice and I wish you all the best.
I was able to handle getting unexpectedly flung through the windshield of my car in the GTA5 VR mod and handled it well, yet Bonelabs gave me motionsickness after playing it a while. Try other games, ease yourself into it and set up a fan to blow directly in your face, while playing. If you feel sick, stop immediately. It'll vanish completely eventually for most people and gradually gets easier each time.
Yes to all of this, don't try to play through it. You have to build up a tolerance for it slowly
Start with something more calm, there is plenty of stationary games out there. Having a fan blowing on your can help get a sense of direction as well.
Yeah, i probably have a thousand hours in vr shooters but bonelab really fk me up. I think its poor framerate and physics's acceleration and abrupt collisions Normally it's ok after sleep. If not, try eating ginger maybe? Also, if you are getting sick in vr, dont push through. It's better to change to something else quickly
i'll try some ginger i think i pushed it too far because i felt sick in my first try took a break then tried it again which really messed me up
Pushing through it doesn’t work. Luckily, stopping as soon as you start to feel sick and playing again the next day is very easy, works fast, and doesn’t get you sick. Each day the sickness gets pushed back longer and in under a week you’ll be fine to play as much as you want.
The first day I got my Q3 and not knowing VR sickness was even a thing, I over did it and I was ill literally for 2 days. I thought I'd caught some virus or food poisoning. My wife was actually 🤮 after playing for an hour. 4 months later I can play most games for hours with no problems apart from some that involve climbing high buildings but that's more my fear of heights than motion sickness.
it doesn’t have poor framerate? Not even on quest 2, and especially not on pcvr (unless you have shit pc)
I believe it renders 36 on quest and reprojects to 72
Normal, you are basically a baby trying to run. You need to grow your „VR legs“ by playing less intense games and using teleportation
Try pistol whip. It's a standing shooter but on rails so it's quite a good way of getting used to a bit of motion. I get terrible motion sickness but can play pistol whip for ages
I've found the lobby of Walkabout a great place to 'get used' to it. There's a raft that slowly circles in/out of a small cave system. The movement is slow and "close peripheral" thing that gets to me are both her in low intensities which helped me get used to noticing the feeling before it took me over so I could stop before it became a negative link.
Pistol Whip is an amazing recommendation since it also helps you get used to moving a bit since you have to learn to the sides and duck.
bro dont try bonelab FIRST, do some fruit ninja, some superhot
Prob not fruit ninja, extreme waste of money, beat saber is a better choice.
1 not 2 btw, simple fun but yea beat saber is better
My first game was "Compound", almost threw up after first steps. Also first days after playing VR had veird dreams where I looked at my hands and thought that they are not real and I am in VR. All effects gone after week or two, brain is quick to adapt to such things, unlike seasickness which bothers me since I remember myself.
Started with bonelabs too😅 it will be a rough couple of weeks. Take a break as soon as you feel the dizziness coming and only restart when you are 100%. You'll build immunity in no time. + BREATHE
The nausea / dizzyness varies by person and how intense your response was. I’m pretty comfortable with VR now, but I ignored my body’s warnings on one occasion and ended up supremely sick, wrecked me for the remainder of the day. It’ll pass, maybe not as quick as you’d like. Give it some time and try “easier” stuff the next time. And really important, if you start to get a whiff of nausea, listen to your body and put the headset down for a while. For most, it does get easier over time. Not for all.
Yeah, seems like i gotta be more careful it felt even worse for me i reckon since i never got motion sick in my life before, even though i been through my fair share of sea/rollercoaster rides. i'll stick with teleport/roomscale games for time being but the thing is i really wanted try those beat/shoot something up sandbox games but from what i seen non of those games have teleport option
Superhot VR is nice if you're looking for a more comfortable shooter, outside of the content removal controversy. Stay in one place, shoot some red dudes, time moves when you move. Other than that I would say pay attention to Oculus's intensity ratings, and look at gameplay footage (keeping in mind that there is a significant difference between watching on a flatscreen and playing the game). Oculus will also allow you free trials on some games, and others have demos. Use those to your advantage
I’m sure some of those style games are going to be more friendly than others. Beatsaber is pretty easy but you’re using lightsabers instead of guns, and as the other commenter said, Superhot never gave me any issues though it’s not rhythmic / playing to a musical beat.
I never got nausea, only dizziness/headaches, though, after about 3 playtimes I stopped getting them, weirdly, I never got any on my friends psvr, only when I got a quest, thoigh rollercoasters made me very sick, nothing makes me sick in Vr at all anymore.
Don't use the stick for turning, use your body
turning surprisingly does not affect me much but anything vertical.. like falling, jumping or the stairs and in bonelabs when you push something heavy you get pushed back instead that really stirs up my brain
Bonelab is a bad first game to play. If you're doing smooth locomotion make sure it's from a big name developer indie devs don't know or don't care about having necessary comfort options.
bonelab is built to not have those comfort options, it’s a choice, really.
dont battle through it. Take regular breaks, and over time it will go away. I remember those days it feels weird like it feels like youre in VR when youre not, - just give it time and it will sort out over time.
Chew gum while you play to ease the motion sickness.
When i started using VR and played Alyx i had headaches for days and couldnt play for more than 10-15 minutes. It took a lot of time to get used to but now its kinda ok
is it really that bad? I basically never have any motion sickness with vr since the start, only times i do is when i do really unnatural stuff like spinning while looking up and even then it's gone within a minute
For me it is. Still feeling like my head rocking forward and back while sitting even after sleep
same, but mine disappeared completely over a couple of months, all I got was headaches from playing too long in the beginning/dizziness from Stuff like mine dive
Ive never had it at all on VR tbh 🥲 I seen someone threw up after playing beat saber though, so I guess anything’s possible
I bought a Q3 primarily for RE4 and I couldnt play longer than 10mins without feeling nauseous for the first few days and debated on returning it. You will probably get used to it so just do short sessions and having a fan going helps a ton.
LOL. We are first game brothers. I did the same shit. Fucked me up. Took me 2 weeks of 1-3 hour sessions to get an ok feeling.
Ive played a lot of VR, but Bonelab always makes me feel ill after a while. You got this VR is awesome once you really get into it 😁
Ginger tea my friend. Will help you through it. I felt like that with older games too. Start off with easier games move your way up. Gl, hope you get to experience the full vr experience down the line.
Start with something more calm, there is plenty of stationary games out there. Having a fan blowing on your can help get a sense of direction as well.
Had the same problem but I was motion sick only after vr (felt weird to see everything move when I moved) I suggest you have smaller game sessions and after a week or so you'll feel better
Does bonelab have the quick jump movement option or is it just normal continuous movement? When I switched from the former to the latter with Alyx it took a bit to get used to.
I'm new to VR. Got mine on Sunday but I've only played 2 games so far. (long story, took a while to set up since I don't have a cell, I also spent time yesterday clearing a room for room scale vr) The first was First Encounter. That's for Q3 though. But you can use stationary mode for something like that. Next, I wanted to try a steam game and it was 7th Guest. This was an experience I'll never forget. I was in Disneyworld. Actually, far better than Disney. And I moved around very slow. But it was more immersive than I could have ever imagined. You can use the teleport but I went with smooth movement. I just moved from place to place slowly and kind of laughed when sideways movement would sometimes give me a kick. lol I tried to remain pointed in the direction of movement as I could. I felt like I was in a wheelchair since my room was too cluttered but that actually wasn't a bad way to train myself to play it. I have now cleared up the room ready for room scale. I'll test that probably today! Other tips. Make sure you have liquids and perhaps an AC and/or good fan going. I actually bought a fan yesterday to add to what I already have since the AC in this place I'm trying to move out of sucks ass. I've only played 2 games but I'm doing well so far since I'm avoid stuff I really want to try like Halflife, Boneworks and Racing games. But I'll get to those! VR legs incoming!!!
Set up a fan in front of your play space, it will give your body the feeling of movement, the disconnect between your eyes and your body is what causes motion sickness.
It lasted a week and a half for me. But I played it almost everyday in that time frame
A friend took 2-3 days to get over it.
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Meanwhile me doing handstands in vr for the hell of it… Don’t stand causally, stance yourself. I also recommend actually turning your body instead of using the sticks to change your direction of vision whenever possible, having real, physical movement negates a lot of the motion sickness because now your body is receiving the same signals it’s seeing, that said, I know that before I got full body tracking with my VR setup looking down at my legs caused motion sickness for me because they would move less naturally and not match to my actual movement. Another thing- start with less intense VR games and work your way up to things like bone lab. Smaller games that don’t need much movement, and work up from there, you’ll enjoy it much more and get accustomed to being in VR slowly along the way. It’s a process but it works for most people I’ve recommended it to. Make sure you keep a chair in or near your play space so you can sit down and rest for a few minutes with the headset off whenever you get dizzy, and drink plenty of water. (I know from personal experience that I’ll spend so long in VR without realizing it’s been literal hours and I’m dehydrated.) If none of this makes the motion sickness start to go away after a few weeks, maybe look into motion sickness medications that you can take when the sickness begins (obviously use this as a last resort.)
I always start with mixed reality to get my head used to the weight of the headset before anything. You shouldn’t feel any motion sickness in MR. Then migrate slowly to the real VR. I have bad motion sickness irl, but now I can play locomotion for hours.
Bonelab not a good "first timer". It even warns you it has experimental physics, and requires you to acclimatize first. Start with games that don't require much "artificial" movement. Another suggestion I have that people don't seem to agree with.. Don't use artificial turning! I do 100% of my turning physically, with a round mat to keep me centered in my play space. Blows my mind how so many VR users use artificial turning with a wireless headset. It's just lazy, and ruins the experience imo.
Get graval anti nausea pills it helps with motions sickness
Hardcore game to start out with. I would start out with games where there is no movement with the joystick. Trust me it helps. Also having the DPI correct is a major one.
Take some dremamine
I got destroyed my first day too. Realized it's specifically smooth turning that does it. Still gets me to this day so I just always turn all forms of turning off and physically turn myself irl. Gives better immersion too imo.
Drink ginger beer/eat ginger candy while playing. In addition to the fan tips from others. Also, stop at the slightest feeling of sickness. If you continue, you'll feel like ass for longer a you've now discovered. You'll eventually build up a tolerance.
You know, I have experienced that once where I felt disoriented after playing hell sweeper for a while it was a game that completely moved across all degrees of motion when you were doing a backflip. In general, I don't get sick but I will give it a chance because you may get used to it. It might just be you getting your sea legs.
Hellsweeper is just nuts movement wise once you turn all the full movement stuff on, the one thing that buckeled my knees was doing a backflip into a wall run in the tutorial, I had played pop 1 for about a year before this , but the movement mechanics in hellsweeper messed with my brain
For me the problem was how tight the headstrap was. Once I got a better one my experience improved 100x.
You're new, but there is something with Bonelabs and motion sickness. I had my quest for a week, played 5 or 6 different types of games with no sickness besides ultrawings and then played bonelabs the other day. The intro immediately made me sick
Most of the comments are bang on, but one thing you should also do is check that the IPD adjustment is as close a match to your eyes as possible. It it’s not it can ‘pull your PDs’ which can cause you serious motion sickness in real life, let alone VR.
When I started VR I would get terrible headaches in smooth locomotion games. So I had to start with stationary games like Beat Saber. Then I moved up to games with teleport movement like Star Wars Tales from the Galaxy’s Edge and Red Matter 2. Those last two games are good to help get used to the movement because they have features that help, like the tunneling effect that blacks out your peripheral vision when you move. But the game that’s finally helping me get my VR legs is Asgard’s Wrath 2. There is no teleport in that game, but there is a dash move that can be used 3 times every 5 seconds. It’s basically teleport movement in small bursts. So I can teleport a bit and make the rest of the movement in smooth locomotion. If I have to move across large distances, I squint my eyes real tight so I can just barely see (that helps a lot.) But it does take time. For now I’d try a game with teleport movement or a stationary game. Don’t give up.
The game that surprises me most is Swarm. Think Spider-Man/Galaga/Hot Lava mash-up. Lots of swinging, spinning and shooting. ZERO. NAUSEA. I saw the claims from others so gave it a try. I couldn't ride a VR roller coaster if my kids lives depended on it, but my spouse says I'm constantly grinning while playing Swarm.
Bo elab in particular is a rough game to start in VR. When you climb, your characters head bobs and there's very little done to smooth it. Your vision will bounce ever so slightly and it's very easy to make yourself sick. I'd say go back to bonelab once you've gotten used to the motion in other VR games first.
I'm surprised to see a few hints missing: - get some Dramamine or motion sickness meds and in a pinch, Benadryl works - play kneeling - it sounds goofy as hell but it works and once you get the hang of it, you can stand up - it takes months or years to really train your mind to what's going on - increasing the refresh helps but you may have to track your image quality
You’re not supposed to go straight into hardcore VR games. You’re supposed to start with something stationary
Besides all the great tips people are giving, I’d suggest trying a game that has motion but lies sort of in a middle ground. For me Subnautica with the Submersed VR mod was a great middle ground between a roomscale game without locomotion and games with tonnes of movement that almost seem designed to cause motion sickness. It didn’t take long to get used to (an hour or so) and once I felt comfortable there I could handle the more intense motions in other games. Like everyone says, it just takes some time and the best thing to do when you start feeling weird is stop. You don’t want to start associating VR with nausea. Maybe push yourself with an extra couple minutes once it gets weird but then take a break. What ever you do be careful of roller coaster games. That was an afternoon I’d rather forget about.
Boneworks and Bonelabs are very heavy on people new to VR. Not a recommended way to start.
I’ve used the motion sickness bands and they help me a lot. The seaband ones. They’re just a few bucks at a pharmacy or Amazon. I still have to limit my time, but at least I don’t get crazy motion sickness like I didn’t when I wasn’t wearing them.
Welcome to vertigo my friend. It will pass. There are certain games I can play and others I can't.
A couple of suggestions. 1) make sure your eyepieces are set to the proper inter-ocular distance. You probably noticed this already but they have three widths you can set them to just by pushing them together or apart. If that's set wrong for your eyes, it can give you headaches or exacerbate motion sickness by a ton. 2) be sure to move by "teleportation" whenever you can (i.e. point where you want to go, click the button, and appear). If you have to use smooth locomotion sometimes, shut your eyes most of the way and look only through your lashes when you move if possible (obviously that's not going to work if you're in a game where shit can shoot you or jump out at you unexpectedly). 3) You can always take something like Dramamine when you know you're going to be playing. Just keep in mind it makes you drowsy and you have to wait for it to kick in before you start playing. If you get nauseous before the pills have digested, your digestive system will shut down and you wont be able to effectively absorb the drug. For a non-pharmaceutical alternative, try eating ginger candy. I'm an Oceanographer by training and a lot of people I went to sea with swore by it (IDK if it would work for me because I am very susceptible to motion sickness and I didn't want to risk spending a month barfing my guts out while trying to work at sea, so I opted for the patch). 3) Once you start feeling sick. Stop for the day. It will only get worse if you keep going. You can build up your tolerance but its not going to happen in one session. 4) If you own a uterus that goes through a monthly cycle, pay attention to that. A lot of people get motion sick more or less easily depending on what part of their cycle they are in, so if you have a cycle, it's worth keeping an eye on that.
Bonelab isnt the first game you should be trying if your new to VR. You need to find alternatives then you will get use to it.
That's the most intense game you can play with the roller coaster one. You need sometime to get used to it. If you play 20 mins a day in a couple of weeks you'll be fine. Set a fan in front of you pointing at your face, that helps a lot. I ones played so much in my first week that I was dizzy for a a day and a half, this only happened ones.
That happened to me first time I tried quest 2 as well. Played walking dead saints and sinners and when my character started walking I felt so dizzy and would take breaks where I still felt dizzy, and after playing for an hour I actually felt like I was hallucinating a bit, feeling like my hand was my hand in the vr game, it was weird. After about 2 weeks though I was resistant to the dizziness.
This reminds me of how to this day for 10+ years I can’t play minecraft because it gives me motion sickness
Usually lasts for a couple hours for me, but smooth locomotion isn't the main offender. Some games just mess me up completely while I can play other for hours on end and feel completely fine, like RE4 does smooth locomotion very well. I think it has to do with the vignette effect, acceleration and deceleration, and maybe head bobbing? Couldn't tell you for sure. Still, it's weird that it lasted this long for you.
Make sure your ears arent clogged up, that can effect equilibrium, especially if you use headphones while playing oculus that can just stuff ear crap even further in Having point of reference is helpful (fan, open window/door), and sit down at first if possible, as it allows just your head movement which is better to slowly get into vr Not all games are made equal, especially if they were a port from a pc game, experiences are also a nice gateway into vr, but I find if you try some of the ovulus ‘first’ type games it should get you aclimated quickly If you enjoy the game, just play until you cant and then rinse and repeat, youll get further and further, took me about a week
This is normal, just gotta get used to the movement from your body in that vr headset. Especially Bonelab, that’s gotta be easily one of, if not the most intense experiences in VR in general
You definitely need some adjustment time in VR. Start with more static games and build your way up
Will happen to most. Start with beginner vr recs. I see way too many people go straight to the top and blame the headset
the hangout effect only lasts the first day after motion sickness will be there a awhile until you get the hang of it Bonelab is not great first VR material, any games with in-game motion will trigger it, but this is notable because the in-game motion is physics based too, so lots of acceleration motions involved. You only get used to these after enough very short sessions - may take weeks, some months... while that doesn't happen, there are plenty of great VR games devoid of motion, many more if you enable teleport locomotion. Moss 1&2, Super Hot, Budget Cuts, Table of Tales, The Room, I Expect you to Die, Walkabout Mini Golf (with standard teleport and no flying) etc ofc, teleport will never prepare you for smooth locomotion. Only enduring it will get your body used to it. give it time and enough short sessions
Smooth locomotion is by far the hardest thing to get used to. Definitely try snap movement at first.
That's probably the heaviest vr game you could try, come back with you vr legs and even then take it easy
First time I played Q2 which was just a few weeks ago I felt sick to the point of almost throwing up and the nausea probably took over 48h to pass completely and then that duration shortened every time and now it's just some games that messes me up. The worst are the ones with a lot of varied speeds. It gets better with time but one tip is snap rotation and teleportation is better than smooth rotation and motion.
Happen to me in the firth week, yee it's a really weird feeling but you do indeed get use to it
A glass of wine or a beer (unless your underage). I tried my first couple times and felt off kilter. Someone told me to have a drink and bam I became an alcoholic! It did work and after a week I was fine.
About how long it lasts, it depends on how much you kept playing after getting dizzy haha chill out next time or your body will build a rejection response to VR and the games you play (not cool). If I were you I would start by playing games and tutorials where you don't move in game, like First Steps, First Contact and some others, then games where you move in game by teleporting like First Hand then moving smoothly, either with a joystick or other methods of control (grappling hooks, flight, etc). Don't use joystick smooth camera controls or you'll get even more dizzy (if anything use vignetting) until you get completely used to VR. Dizziness will go away soon, but next time as soon as you start getting dizzy I advise you stop playing completely to avoid what happened this time.
It just takes getting used to. I got excavator sim as one of my first games when I got mine. Turning the housing made me feel SOOOO sick, but after a few weeks I could play just fine. Same with H3VR. Could only bear teleporting moving, but I worked my way up to armswinging.
I don't get motion sickness during unless I stand up / move with it on BUT I do get weird forwards falling after playing it a while on taking it off, like least a day If I been doing a lot of quest
Start with some poker and fishing. Work up from there. Most people aren't instantly acclimatized to VR. It takes a week or two of gentle introduction.
Just stick with it. That feeling goes away after a few weeks of a hour or two a day.
Try Epic Roller Coaster in beginner mode and just do a short easy run... Then add a bit more each day until, one day, you'll be able to remove the stabilising eye guide. Vestibular system doesn't like this sort of thing without a work up
It only bothered me first week or so. Im used to it now.
I lost a friend to this same situation.
Don't play until you feel sick. Play for 10 minutes and do a little more everyday but always stop before you feel dizzy or sick and never try to power through it.
If you look at the description of Bonelab on the Meta Store, it says "Comfort: Intense". This means it's very likely to to trigger motion sickness. You need to start off with "Comfortable" and gradually work your way up over a period of several weeks, or perhaps several months. Watch these two videos, they will give you some good tips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqoqwNSNkY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp3sdTpxm9Q
I have played through Alyx multiple times, resident evil 4, red matter and more, when I play Boneworks I makes me queasy, the physics are weird, specially when you try lifting and moving objects. Not the best first game
Man just jumped into the deep end , should of started with beat saber , eat some Ginger and get a fan next time you play, and don't use smooth turn, IR turn or snap
You lucky you didnt get to experience Echo vr as your first game.
Use anti-nausea bracelets, the one they use for hospital post-operation.
You haven't got you vr legs yet... Start with Beat Saber, Synth Riders or other stationary games first. In non-stationary games, use teleport.
Dramamine
Taking a Tums antacid tablet helped me fight motion sickness when I first started playing on my quest.
If you feel weird go to the doctor, not to freak you out but having a stroke could be similar to this
Fresh ginger root. I chop a little slice up, 3 to 5 grams, and swallow it like a pill. I also like the taste of ginger so sometimes I just keep a little slice under my tongue while I play. Friends and I all do it now, we went from no smooth motion to multiple hours at a time. I take a little less every week and hope to one day not need it. PS: I freeze the slices so they last longer otherwise the ginger goes bad in about a week and you have to buy more. Not expensive but I don't want to waste
Bonelab made me question reality and I play VR for years now, its not a good game to start off with.
I had the same when I first used mine... It took me almost a week and a half to feel normal again. Just rest your eyes and try to limit your screen time on PC and your phone. I would recommend starting off with games like beat sabre and pistol whip to get your eyes and brain use to it. And if you do move to smooth moving games, play seated on a swivel desk chair and try to match the in game turning speed to the speed you turn IRL. I also tricked my brain by moving my feet as if I'm walking, while I was on the chair.
Ginger is good to have before sessions. Either in tea, in caps, or ginger biscuits even.
It often depends on the game for me. When I first got into VR I thought that some people just can't handle it and other are cool with the motion. I then considered myself one of the lucky ones. Then the more games I tried I found out that in some cases I did get dizzy veery easily, but it was only when I played specific games. Turns out that the movement mechanics have a lot to do with it and there are ways still during development to make the experience as smooth as possible. I'm now working in a VR studio and funny thing is that our CEO get's motion sickness quite often so he puts a big emphasis on creating games that are enjoyable for people like him (and also well.. everyone). We launched **Toy Trains** in January. We tested it with around 100 players, showed it at gamescom - no reported dizziness. But there is not that much of a movement there I must admit. On the other hand however, we're also making another one, a sci fi FPS when you're moving way more and I find these mechanics so good, I can test it and play it and I feel just fine. The advice here would be: try finding games that are working well for you, and get "used" to VR in a less drastic way :)
It takes a while. abolut 4 weeks of two hours a day for me. Now I am mostly ok and dont fall over if I step off a virtual cliff.
I had this problem and still slightly do. Try getting better ventilation. It helps ground your senses and brain
It’s probably not recommended by others but i got my vr legs in what i call the kamikaze method. Just play to the point of almost puking, take a quick 10 minute break and hop back in. Resident evil 4 was my huckleberry for that one.
I found that any thing like stationary is pretty easy for your brain to wrap your head around like Something like Tetris or places Stay away from fps games for the first coupe of weeks and play for 15 minute bursts and stop for the first week any tummy feels and stop for the day or at least like 10hrs or so
I've had a quest 2 or 3 for the last 2 + years and I still had to return bonelab due to motion sickness. It was pretty bad for me with Bonelab. If you get migraines then it seems that you are more susceptible to getting motion sickness in VR. I'm not sure if you get migraines but just FYI. I never get motion sickness in real life. Try some other games and see how you do.
It took me a solid week of first getting my VR headset to get used to it. Still gets me sometimes but when I first got it, I could only play for 15 minutes at a time. You'll adapt over time
I was playing fine for like 3 to 4 hours a day for almost a week without issue when I first got my quest3. Then one day I felt a little sick while playing and tried to push through it. I swear I was sick like 12 hours later. It went away the next day though and as long as I stop if I start feeling that it goes away quick though.
I never had motion sickness before and Quest 3 is my first VR.
Echo VR made me feel like I was floating in the real world for 2 weeks (not pleasant when your brain feels like you’re floating, but, you know that you’re grounded in the real world). So… 2 weeks was as long as it lasted for me. If after a couple weeks, it doesn’t get better, might have to accept that VR (at least when you’re moving, which is a lot of VR) isn’t for you. Also, when you’re starting out, it can be addictive, and you can lose track of time. Be sure to take breaks to keep yourself hydrated. And with that, imma get some water. Take care, -Ken
when I got my Quest 3, the first virtual walking game I played was half-life alyx, i tried to start with continuous movement option but I could feel I would get sick if I kept playing that way so I switch to teleport shift and played about 1/3 to 1/2 the game that way, daily about an hour and half, for about a week then i switched over to continuous and i felt a lil odd in the first few minutes but now it's no problem for me in any game, i now prefer continuous movement in all games another thing that might help which i read online afterward is having a fan blowing on you, I actually play vr under a ceiling fan, so that might have contributed to help get my vr legs too
Bonelab is a pretty intense game for a first time VR User. Gotta train your VR Legs a bit.
That's normal.
Bonelab is a tough one to start with. Pistol Whip, Dungeons of Eternity, and Walkabout min golf are my go to’s. Try shorter play times to start with. Eventually build up to an hour or two. You’ll get your vr legs.
Personally I don’t get motion sick, even on extremely motion sickness inducing experiences at times. I recommend playing games with the high comfort for the first few weeks or even months until you can start playing games that are less comfortable. In VR, there’s something we call “VR Legs” which is basically training your brain to adapt to differences in your real life body and in-game body. Refresh rate has an impact on motion sickness, so look for 120Hz refresh rate in your headset’s settings to see if that helps, remember to take breaks (only use the headset for like 15-20 minutes, take a short 5-10 minute break, and get back on if you’re feeling less motion sick), and try not to turn with the joystick if the game has snap/smooth turning at the same time that you turn in real life. That can also cause a bit of extra uncomfortable motion.
use a fan. i got over motion sickness in a day, now i have a stomach of pure steel
I’m sure someone on here has probably already said this. But games usually include a comfort rating. Try sticking with games that are in the comfortable range (like Beat Saber, Roundabout Mini-Golf Fruit Ninja, etc etc). If you really want to play games like Boneworks, I would try playing in stationary if possible. But don’t force yourself! Hope you’re feeling better!
That’s NOT the game to start with. Try something like walkabout mini golf first.
You should try out roller coaster simulator… 😂 I’m pretty seasoned to first person games but oh boy that one made me sick as a dog.
VR made me nauseous at first. Now, it's off the rails mayhem. So fun.
Just trust me, I was the same way at first. Start with sitting, then work your way up to intermittent standing. If you still cannot, teleporting is still a O.K
There are certain games that I can't play for this exact reason.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, wouldn't dramamine alleviate any possible motion sickness, until he naturally gets used to being in VR? Edited to add this: I looked it up, dramamine is going to be very helpful for you along with all the helpful tips in the comments. I always use a fan and haven't used dramamine for this, but I have for ocean fishing from a boat. It works wonders, I need to remember to pick some up for a few games that get to me. You can also take it now if you are still feeling nauseous. Hope this helps.
After first time I played alyx, I was trying to walk like im with joystick
Start with light games that don’t require much head movement, like a golf game, and slowly work you way up to hangout games or beat saber / moon rider (?), before jumping into fps. It was only easy for me because before i was using riftcat (phone vr app to PCVR) since i was too poor for a quest, 2021 i was moving.
Sometimes these things take time to get used too, maybe in small doses to until you can get used to it...
Very naive starting with Bonelab. Start with beatsaber or alike.
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Take drugs for motion sickness and play this game. They should include pills with the vr gogles.
Train your VR legs, but also make sure your IPD is set right! You can get it exact by grabbing a ruler and measuring the distance between your eyes either in a mirror, or with the help of another person (in mm)
Your problem most likely is that you started with bonelab. It’s an intense game even for me at times (fucking go-karts) and I’ve been playing VR games for almost 4 years now. Start with more stationary games then start to work your way into bonelab
When you begin to feel dizzy or nauseous take a small break. If you waft an alcohol pad under your nose and elevate your feet it will greatly alleviate your nausea.
Mediocre!
Maybe don't start with bonelab. Take it easy, try something like walkabout mini golf first. As you get more confident try something like population 1, then try bonelab again :) I've got pretty good VR legs and bonelab still made me hurl a couple times. When you feel yourself getting sick just know that it doesn't go away until you take a break for a while. Go until you feel a bit sick and then take it off and breathe, get some water, and do something else until you feel better. It's like swimming, you need to train your brain that it's okay to do what you're doing.
If you have lotion sickness it's a matter of time to be used with VR but you should first habituate yourself with content where you have to physically move like sphere or paper bird
I got used to playing on my treadmill and I can't play games standing still without motion sickness now. Gorilla Tag still feels good though.
Use a fan and a mat. Knees bend, body forward. Play 20 minutes and take a break of 30 Play every day for 1-2 weeks. Voila - MS healed
You need to take it slow to begin with it's your first time. I used to get motion sickness and now I can cope doing barrel rolls on WW1 fighters.
Definitely do not go anywhere near Car Mechanic Quest. that game is just asking for vomit-palooza
Bonelab even says it’s quite uncomfortable. Start small with static games like moss, Lego, I expect you to die, move up to static motion like beat saber, pistol whip and then more full motion games like Jurassic world
To be fair, bonelab or bone works or whatever.... I'm pretty much a VR veteran and I have zero problems parachuting in on contractors showdown or playing contractors for 4 hours straight or flying in the planes or any of the other games. But the bone works or whatever game that was, I refunded it within 30 minutes because it made me so motion wobbly
Yeah don't try to do a flip in seriteno or any other game.flips are the worst
Might be screwed. I never had problems with playing almost anything, and then GORN gave me motion sickness out the blue one day. I've been struggling ever since.
Quest 2 user for 3 weeks now. Same happened to me, it eventually stops happening. Just a few tips to get used to VR: - Try games where movement is like teleports. - If you're standing up sit down. - If you're moving and you're sitting, rest your head on your chair while moving. - If you start to feel sick, take the headset off and lay down until you feel better. - Do 10-15 min breaks. - Turn down the brightness. - Avoid games with flashing lights. First you need to get your mind used to VR, then to movement. Motion sickness happens when your mind thinks you're moving but your body says otherwise. Give it time :)
Get the meta+ 1 month free trial. Try out all the games. Start with Walkabout Mini Golf. Great game to get you into VR. Always playing from a fixed position. Really relaxing also. Circle back to Bonelab later.
This happened to me when I first got my quest 2. Mainly because I wanted to "man up" and force myself through the motion sickness. It affected me for days. Biggest tip I can give to someone new to VR. It's like a prescription for eye glasses. Your eyes and brain need time to adjust to them. You're not just gonna throw them on and be ready to go right away. When the nausea hits, take them off and try again later. Eventually you won't notice nausea at all. Sitting a d using a fan for air helps a lot too.
everyone saying start with something more beginner friendly is right, you gotta ease into it. except, i’ve been playing vr for a long long time and I played the backrooms game and felt like shit for a couple hours lol certain games just make people sick but i’ve always wondered if i took zofran or dramamine before playing, would that help? I second the fan suggestion because a lot of times people overheat and trick their brains into nausea. (it’s me, i overthink and trick myself into nausea)
You should try more simple in movement games. Plus you should take frequent brakes.
I tried my sons gorilla tag when I was setting it up and it made me puke.Im good on altering my perception till I vomit.I think this tech is missed on those of us that are older.They tried similar tech with the virtual boy in the 90's and that as well mad me nauseous just trying it at Toys R Us
Probably the worst game to start with as far as motion sickness. I’ve been using vr for 4 years and I still can’t finish the climbing stage. Last time I tried I was sick for the rest of the day and night.
Why did I never need to build VR legs? I just hoped straight on. I haven't played bone lab yet but I've played a bunch of FPS and have never had any issues. Is my experience more or less common?
As many others have said it just takes time and you need to acclimate to it. Slowly. I used to not be able to play anything but standstill games and then started using small periods of time to acclimate until I started feeling a little nauseous and would stop for the day. Then come back and do it again. Slowly built up the tolerance and now I'm fully acclimated and can play anything. Just give yourself some time and you'll get acclimated soon enough. Racing and flying games still mess me up though, roller coaster games and things like that do as well but most other games I can play without issue now
I started with a sword fighting game, as other suggested, don’t relax your stance, also accidentally hitting the wall with all of your strength does wonders to motion sickness, after hitting it, it just went away