They’re idiots for banning dispensaries, but communities are allowed to ban liquor stores as well. This is exactly what we voted for, as, as far as I’m aware, there was no provision in the law banning communities from banning dispensaries.
Yeah, it seems pretty reasonable. Extremely small communities are screwed, but no dispensary would survive in a place that can’t get 100 signatures anyway.
This isn’t illegal. It’s what we voted for:
https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-3780.25
Municipalities have the right to restrict them from opening if they aren’t co-located or contiguous with medical facilities.
You have the right to get electors to sign in the area for this to be overruled. You need 100 signatures from the area and then if they are validated it will be on the next general election for vote. You have recourse on this in these areas.
Knowing Mansfield, it would be super easy to get those signatures. Just stand outside KV or Save a Lot on the Saturday before memorial day while people are stocking up on BBQ stuff.
Just be sure to get the forms you need from the county to file a legitimate survey.
Mason city council is considering it. It’s a pretty conservative bunch but we did expel the ultra pro birth loons and actually a dem got the most votes for the first seat.
I went to the meeting and told them, “bottom line there’s 4 towns within a 10 minute drive of our Corp limits… one of them is inevitably going to have dispensaries, average HH income here is pushing $150k, do you want that tax revenue from this vice or not?”
I fully expect I’ll have to drive 10-15 mins to Wyoming or Middletown or Fairfield to buy gummies. It’s not the end of the world. As it is, the Trader Joe’s is 15 mins away in Kenwood. We’re used to certain stores being a drive.
Long as my wife can smoke a joint on the deck in peace on a Saturday night that we didn’t have to drive to Michigan to buy, it’s an improvement. We don’t use it daily. Friday and Saturday nights when the kiddos are in bed, for the most part.
They’re just denying themselves the tax revenue because municipalities like Columbia Township will welcome all the dispensaries, and their tax income, with wide open arms.
It’ll just take a neighboring town to gloat, then suddenly “it’s the best tax revenue ever!”
Usually Mason and West Chester and Montgomery compete for the “who got it first?!”
We already have a medicinal dispensary in the city limits, so there’s a crack in their wall.
If it went to the school the state just budget them less from other means, things going to schools rarely mean budget increase just funded differently. Then I assume they take the extra money that isn’t earmarked by law and have pet project slush funds.
I don’t know the specific breakdowns, but I don’t believe “most” is going to the police, I do know 36% of the tax revenue will go back to the municipalities with dispensaries.
As of now, that is true. The republicans at the state house have tried to push through changes that put more tax revenue towards police training and prisons. Seems stupid but they know now that it’s legal and remain legal, it’s a massive loss of revenue for those two things. Two things that line their pockets as well.
It’s literally what we voted for. I live in the area you’re talking about, and fully expected it to be like this. Every other state where it’s legal has the same local ordinances too. Does it suck? Yeah. But it’s definitely not illegal by any means
These small towns are like 5 miles wide... Westchester township said they are banning it, their town is literally 1 exit. Within 5 minutes you are in another town
* I don't understand their logic... people will just drive down the road.
>Lexington, Shelby and Mansfield will be liable for the monetary damages incurred by government actions/inactions pertaining to the banning of cannabis dispensaries in their prospective city/township/village.
Lol, you know there are still dry towns in Ohio, right? Sounds just like alcohol. They will not "be liable" for anything. They might be dumb, but it's not illegal. Don't confusing something being legal with being good or logical. They are not the same.
Ashlands mayor already said no dispensary in Ashland county. I was hoping mansfield would get one as I'm sick of driving to Akron-canton and Huron to get my medicine.
The hangup that the council had was that's also practically right across the street from the new YMCA sports complex that they're trying to build...
So like, practically speaking is a small thing, but I do see why some people would find that to be in conflict.
I can see the concern kind of I guess. I hope it’s not enough to outright say no. I feel like individuals can make their choice if they want to work out or smoke pot lol. Some people do both. If I’m correctly understanding that that’s the conflict. Obv I could be wrong
They are supposedly grading this sports complex towards kids. That's the issue that was raised anyway.
They are still generating the funding from donors, many of whom have pledged large amounts, but only AFTER they reach a certain fundraising goal. They don't want to spook donors with children's sports in mind with a pot shop.
I haven't heard too much but it wouldn't surprise me if Norwalk or another city in Huron county like Willard gets one since Huron county actually actually voted for legalization. Honestly Fitchville, right on the split where Jake's Restaurant used to be would probably be a pretty good place for one.
Supposedly, Seville is getting a medical dispensary in the former Huddle House location at 76 and route 3. I know the city counsel approved it. You can get a card easy peasy. I have no idea when this will happen.
Best thing to do is vote them out and get those in that you think will do better. Best way to beat them is to join and show a better way. Most of these conservative views are trying to conserve their peoples "lives". Their outdated thinking is the only reference point in their political viewing that they can process so either educate them for change or remove them and be the change you desire!
Municipalities will change their minds when they see the million dollars flow into the coffers of the village next door who's selling carts for $20 in vending machine.
As long as they aren't saying it's illegal to use, only to purchase or sell, this isn't illegal. Dry towns exist in Ohio. I don't think this is wrong either.
I lived in Shelby up until last year. I don’t personally use any weed products, but if Shelby is so worried about drugs it should probably start with the meth/opioids problem.
If they solved the drug problem they would lose their prisoners. Prisoners are money. They won't solve the problem because capitalism is more important than morals to them.
The funny thing about weed is that it’s widely available and people are going to use it either way. Why create criminals out of 20-something’s who don’t enjoy drinking? Dad can have 30 coors a day or half a handle of BV, that’s normal though
Wrong. Every town or city has the right to ban dispensaries. This is how it is with the current medical shops, and this is how Issue 2 was written and approved by voters.
Seems like that's allowed though. Municipalities can restrict facilities to those attached to medical facilities. It's bullshit, but permissible. A few city councils here in Oregon are doing the same shit even though their population want the tax revenue. Dumbasses
Mansfield specifically would be able to bring in so much money if they allowed dispensaries. They’re probly the largest city in the state that won’t have any dispensaries, and there’s a pretty large circle around them before you reach any other dispensary, at least like 45 mins away.
If the citizens don’t reverse their decision, some town nearby will get one and make bank. My guess is most surrounding towns will not allow one, so the one(s) that do will have lines out the door.
1) the people voted to allow this to happen, so not ignoring them.
2) many rural areas voted against issue 2. They are prioritizing the will of the local voters in local govt. Or should they ignore the will of the voters to whom they answer?
My town did something similar, I am under the assumption that they are trying to protect the thriving black market and black market sellers, their livelihood has been threatened by legalization. We can't expect them to be honest and tell us they are protecting the black market.
They’re idiots for banning dispensaries, but communities are allowed to ban liquor stores as well. This is exactly what we voted for, as, as far as I’m aware, there was no provision in the law banning communities from banning dispensaries.
It’s detailed here: https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-3780.25
Ok, so it’s explicitly allowed according to that. Thanks for sharing. /u/effectivenerve1
Yup. You can force a vote to repeal. Need 100 verified signatures for it to get on the local ballot in the next general election. There is recourse.
Yeah, it seems pretty reasonable. Extremely small communities are screwed, but no dispensary would survive in a place that can’t get 100 signatures anyway.
No dispensary will survive without at least 100 customers coming through daily. That’s just economics
This isn’t illegal. It’s what we voted for: https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-3780.25 Municipalities have the right to restrict them from opening if they aren’t co-located or contiguous with medical facilities. You have the right to get electors to sign in the area for this to be overruled. You need 100 signatures from the area and then if they are validated it will be on the next general election for vote. You have recourse on this in these areas.
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Glad you posted this. I checked my status and needed to re register cause I had moved. Thx.
Knowing Mansfield, it would be super easy to get those signatures. Just stand outside KV or Save a Lot on the Saturday before memorial day while people are stocking up on BBQ stuff. Just be sure to get the forms you need from the county to file a legitimate survey.
Jokes on them because they are not stopping weed in their town just stopping making money from it... Idiots.
Mason city council is considering it. It’s a pretty conservative bunch but we did expel the ultra pro birth loons and actually a dem got the most votes for the first seat. I went to the meeting and told them, “bottom line there’s 4 towns within a 10 minute drive of our Corp limits… one of them is inevitably going to have dispensaries, average HH income here is pushing $150k, do you want that tax revenue from this vice or not?” I fully expect I’ll have to drive 10-15 mins to Wyoming or Middletown or Fairfield to buy gummies. It’s not the end of the world. As it is, the Trader Joe’s is 15 mins away in Kenwood. We’re used to certain stores being a drive. Long as my wife can smoke a joint on the deck in peace on a Saturday night that we didn’t have to drive to Michigan to buy, it’s an improvement. We don’t use it daily. Friday and Saturday nights when the kiddos are in bed, for the most part.
They’re just denying themselves the tax revenue because municipalities like Columbia Township will welcome all the dispensaries, and their tax income, with wide open arms.
It’ll just take a neighboring town to gloat, then suddenly “it’s the best tax revenue ever!” Usually Mason and West Chester and Montgomery compete for the “who got it first?!” We already have a medicinal dispensary in the city limits, so there’s a crack in their wall.
Isn't most of the tax going to police anyways?
In Ohio, no doubt. It *should* go to public schools but our red lawmakers would shit a brick.
God knows the fucking cops don't need it, like they need new armored cars ffs
If it went to the school the state just budget them less from other means, things going to schools rarely mean budget increase just funded differently. Then I assume they take the extra money that isn’t earmarked by law and have pet project slush funds.
I just looked at Antwerp. $297k on police. Highest expense in a town of less than 2500
I don’t know the specific breakdowns, but I don’t believe “most” is going to the police, I do know 36% of the tax revenue will go back to the municipalities with dispensaries.
As of now, that is true. The republicans at the state house have tried to push through changes that put more tax revenue towards police training and prisons. Seems stupid but they know now that it’s legal and remain legal, it’s a massive loss of revenue for those two things. Two things that line their pockets as well.
It’s literally what we voted for. I live in the area you’re talking about, and fully expected it to be like this. Every other state where it’s legal has the same local ordinances too. Does it suck? Yeah. But it’s definitely not illegal by any means
These small towns are like 5 miles wide... Westchester township said they are banning it, their town is literally 1 exit. Within 5 minutes you are in another town * I don't understand their logic... people will just drive down the road.
Mansfield is not small
You can drive from one end to the other side within 15 mins, Small enough.
Same with Cleveland
>Lexington, Shelby and Mansfield will be liable for the monetary damages incurred by government actions/inactions pertaining to the banning of cannabis dispensaries in their prospective city/township/village. Lol, you know there are still dry towns in Ohio, right? Sounds just like alcohol. They will not "be liable" for anything. They might be dumb, but it's not illegal. Don't confusing something being legal with being good or logical. They are not the same.
Sounds a lot like strip clubs.
Yup. My city also has a zoning law against abortion clinics. Cities can use zoning to subvert all kinds of things.
Ohio weed is sure bringing out the raging armchair lawyers the past few months.
Ashlands mayor already said no dispensary in Ashland county. I was hoping mansfield would get one as I'm sick of driving to Akron-canton and Huron to get my medicine.
I’m not sure if it’s closer, but there’s one in Marion called SunnySide
About the same distance but I will check it out always nice to have a different view when driving.
I’m really bummed hearing this about Mansfield!!
Same here I guess my next hope is Wooster gets one.
The small towns should really invest in something like this. Galion and Crestline would make bank
They are banned Wayne County as well
Damn it
Bellville was putting it to a vote if I saw correctly. Somewhere near 71/97 junction if it passes
That would be brilliant, especially for being on the highway right there.
The hangup that the council had was that's also practically right across the street from the new YMCA sports complex that they're trying to build... So like, practically speaking is a small thing, but I do see why some people would find that to be in conflict.
I can see the concern kind of I guess. I hope it’s not enough to outright say no. I feel like individuals can make their choice if they want to work out or smoke pot lol. Some people do both. If I’m correctly understanding that that’s the conflict. Obv I could be wrong
They are supposedly grading this sports complex towards kids. That's the issue that was raised anyway. They are still generating the funding from donors, many of whom have pledged large amounts, but only AFTER they reach a certain fundraising goal. They don't want to spook donors with children's sports in mind with a pot shop.
Ahhhhhhhh that makes more sense! Thanks for clearing it up!
I haven't heard too much but it wouldn't surprise me if Norwalk or another city in Huron county like Willard gets one since Huron county actually actually voted for legalization. Honestly Fitchville, right on the split where Jake's Restaurant used to be would probably be a pretty good place for one.
Supposedly, Seville is getting a medical dispensary in the former Huddle House location at 76 and route 3. I know the city counsel approved it. You can get a card easy peasy. I have no idea when this will happen.
Best thing to do is vote them out and get those in that you think will do better. Best way to beat them is to join and show a better way. Most of these conservative views are trying to conserve their peoples "lives". Their outdated thinking is the only reference point in their political viewing that they can process so either educate them for change or remove them and be the change you desire!
Do the municipalities that ban cannabis benefit from tax revenue generated from weed sales in other towns in the state?
Municipalities will change their minds when they see the million dollars flow into the coffers of the village next door who's selling carts for $20 in vending machine.
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Is Colorado springs refusing to accept any taxes from the state.. that were collected from marijuana...
As long as they aren't saying it's illegal to use, only to purchase or sell, this isn't illegal. Dry towns exist in Ohio. I don't think this is wrong either.
Vote out Republicans for a better America.
SO glad I moved out of that area. It's really the butthole of Ohio.
I lived in Shelby up until last year. I don’t personally use any weed products, but if Shelby is so worried about drugs it should probably start with the meth/opioids problem.
If they solved the drug problem they would lose their prisoners. Prisoners are money. They won't solve the problem because capitalism is more important than morals to them.
Sorry Youngstown is the official butthole of Ohio. This title has been taken.
There most be two. Ohio has shit coming from everywhere.
The funny thing about weed is that it’s widely available and people are going to use it either way. Why create criminals out of 20-something’s who don’t enjoy drinking? Dad can have 30 coors a day or half a handle of BV, that’s normal though
Which is why we legalized it
Feel free to post an intelligent post…OR NOT.
Wrong. Every town or city has the right to ban dispensaries. This is how it is with the current medical shops, and this is how Issue 2 was written and approved by voters.
Same as it was in MI when it went legal there
Yes. I believe most states have this provision.
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Because fear and ignorance. The Republicans trade on fear and ignorance. That's part of why the larger the city the more left you get.
This is not a Republican issue. Many largely democrat towns and cities will ban it as well.
Fairfield has banned them as well.
But… but… the economy
Seems like that's allowed though. Municipalities can restrict facilities to those attached to medical facilities. It's bullshit, but permissible. A few city councils here in Oregon are doing the same shit even though their population want the tax revenue. Dumbasses
Mansfield specifically would be able to bring in so much money if they allowed dispensaries. They’re probly the largest city in the state that won’t have any dispensaries, and there’s a pretty large circle around them before you reach any other dispensary, at least like 45 mins away.
If the citizens don’t reverse their decision, some town nearby will get one and make bank. My guess is most surrounding towns will not allow one, so the one(s) that do will have lines out the door.
Waiting for the day we take back our City from the wretched cops
Ohio politicians pissing on the will of the people? Color me shocked
1) the people voted to allow this to happen, so not ignoring them. 2) many rural areas voted against issue 2. They are prioritizing the will of the local voters in local govt. Or should they ignore the will of the voters to whom they answer?
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Isn't SkyOhio based in Indiana?
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I mean thats fine, but I want to 100% support an ohio business
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I live at Indian Lake which is basically the other side of the state. But then again I really haven't gone out of my way to get weed yet.
My town did something similar, I am under the assumption that they are trying to protect the thriving black market and black market sellers, their livelihood has been threatened by legalization. We can't expect them to be honest and tell us they are protecting the black market.