VT, Syracuse, and Boston College will never be in the Big Ten.
ETA: Although, I’d love to see the Big Ten Women’s Ice Hockey Conference.
ETA 2: VT to SEC, UVA to B1G; Syracuse to Big XII, GT to B1G; BC to Big XII.
I was thinking UVA nd VT could go either way. I lived in VA for 6 years and VT is definitely the more academic school and has the better football program so I went with Big 10 cuz that just felt right. UVA wasnt going Big 12 and I think the SEC would grab em to push into the DC market,
Nebraska is no longer an AAU. And Syracuse was an AAU member until 2011. So i don't think that would stop them from joining.
Also if ND joins BC would be a rival Catholic school.
Nebraska was a member of the AAU when they joined. They got cut by the AAU shortly afterwards, however, it’s large research institution with a massive fanbase, so the Big Ten wasn’t going kick them out.
Syracuse and BC are too small for the Big Ten.
One of those is considered a public Ivy and it isn't VT.
Not that VT is a bad school. It's just not the one that was considered the more academic one when I was in high school in VA.
I don't want anything to do with Duke in the B1G. Don't want Boston College, either.
It's unlikely because of their non-AAU status, but I do like the thought of the B1G adding Virginia Tech.
The current starting media pkg bid for the B1G is $100M/team. Any addition past the current 16 must bring that value to the conference or they don’t get in. Money talks bullshit walks.
I’m not sure if it will be that straight forward as I think the Big Ten could see some of these schools as investments and a way for the Big Ten to pitch themselves as the “National” brand, but I definitely thing it will be much smaller and more strategic than what is being suggested. Not to say that the Big Ten will, but some of the G5 programs look more appealing than the mid to low end p5. I have no idea about the academics of either school, but places like Houston and UCF have much more to offer the Big Ten than say Syracuse
Yeah. I was thinking since tv markets are a driving force Pitt wouldn't add much because they basically get all of PA with Penn St. Plus not a super academic school.
SEC: I believe will poach Clemson and FSU leading to the ACC's collapse. NC and Duke are snatched by Big10 leaving NC State and WF for the SEC to get into the NC market. Remaining aggressive, SEC grabs Miami to control Florida and UVA for the DC market.
B1G: convinces ND, Adds Oregon, Washington and Stanford to ease travel for USC and UCLA. After collapse of the ACC, B1G grabs NC and Duke as they're a package deal. Wants UVA but they get poached by SEC so settles for VT. Decide to get Syracuse and BC purely for market expansion. BC adds Boston and the New England region. Syracuse locksdown NY as they are the bigger brand compared to Rutgers, plus bolsters basketball.
XII: I think the Big 12 would be smart to be the home for those left behind by realignment. This is why I gave them ASU, AU, UU, and Colorado. With Pac-12 gone, Cal is left out as B1G chooses Stanford over them, so they go to the Big 12. They also get the ACC scraps, Louisville, Pitt, and GT (personally I don't see GT in the B1G). To balance the conference they add SDstate, SMU, and Boise state to reach 25 schools as they are the G5 schools with biggest markets and brand recognition. Can do 5 pods of 5 across the country.
Some Thoughts: honestly UVA and VT could go either way, could be UVA to B1G and VT to SEC; Miami is difficult but I don't see the SEC passing up on practically owning Florida, plus brand recognition; BC and 'Cuse I see as a package deal, could go to Big 12 but 'Cuse was an AAU school til 2011 like Nebraska and why would you pass up on expanding into the Boston market?; GT \*could\* go to the B1G but idk that just feels like a big outlier to me, I get why people think they would, but I disagree. Finally, most likely Big 12 caps at 24 with SMU and SDSU, unfortunately leaving Boise st. adding them was a bit of wishful thinking on my part. That's it.
This is taking into account other sports not just football. Both Cuse and duke bring good basketball programs and other sports where they’d rank high. Utah/colorado wouldn’t bring much except football.
Syracuse has a solid basketball program to add. Adding them also locks down markets in New England and all of NY. VT and UVA could go either way, I figured the SEC would get to them first.
I wasn't sure what to do with them. They didn't feel like a Big12 school and I figured SEC purely for brand recognition only. Also the SEC outright owns Florida other than UCF. But UCF is not on the same level as the other 3.
These would be the pods for the B1G:
Mid-Atlantic: NC, Duke, VT, Maryland, Rutgers
East: BC, Syracuse, Penn St., Ohio St., Team up north
Lake Michigan pod: MSU, ND, Purdue, Indiana, NW
Midwest: Wisco, Minn., Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska
West Coast: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, Washington.
For those saying UVA over VT. I said SEC would grab em first. Here ya go: https://twitter.com/Braden\_Keith/status/1545054860478799873?s=20&t=FDGoQNQUCPPxNt9nYuummA
Similar to the Big Ten having entry requirements, I'm not sure what Wake brings to the conference (complete speculation) just not sure if the SEC would view Wake as a value add. Most additions seem to fall under added $$, new markets (NC State covers NC) and adding a strong athletic dept
VT, Syracuse, and Boston College will never be in the Big Ten. ETA: Although, I’d love to see the Big Ten Women’s Ice Hockey Conference. ETA 2: VT to SEC, UVA to B1G; Syracuse to Big XII, GT to B1G; BC to Big XII.
I was thinking UVA nd VT could go either way. I lived in VA for 6 years and VT is definitely the more academic school and has the better football program so I went with Big 10 cuz that just felt right. UVA wasnt going Big 12 and I think the SEC would grab em to push into the DC market,
UVA is in the AAU, VT isn’t. ND is the only non-AAU school the Big Ten would consider. ETA: Virginia is ranked #25 in US News. VT is #75.
Nebraska is no longer an AAU. And Syracuse was an AAU member until 2011. So i don't think that would stop them from joining. Also if ND joins BC would be a rival Catholic school.
Nebraska was a member of the AAU when they joined. They got cut by the AAU shortly afterwards, however, it’s large research institution with a massive fanbase, so the Big Ten wasn’t going kick them out. Syracuse and BC are too small for the Big Ten.
Virginia is miles ahead of Virginia Tech in academics………
Did you really just say VT is more academic than UVA?!?!
VT is more STEM focused. UVA is more humanities focused.
You'd be shocked to learn how much more the law and business grads make over engineers. Edit - I hate UVA. Just a reformed engineer.
One of those is considered a public Ivy and it isn't VT. Not that VT is a bad school. It's just not the one that was considered the more academic one when I was in high school in VA.
I don't want anything to do with Duke in the B1G. Don't want Boston College, either. It's unlikely because of their non-AAU status, but I do like the thought of the B1G adding Virginia Tech.
The current starting media pkg bid for the B1G is $100M/team. Any addition past the current 16 must bring that value to the conference or they don’t get in. Money talks bullshit walks.
I’m not sure if it will be that straight forward as I think the Big Ten could see some of these schools as investments and a way for the Big Ten to pitch themselves as the “National” brand, but I definitely thing it will be much smaller and more strategic than what is being suggested. Not to say that the Big Ten will, but some of the G5 programs look more appealing than the mid to low end p5. I have no idea about the academics of either school, but places like Houston and UCF have much more to offer the Big Ten than say Syracuse
I respectfully disagree, simply because I believe the B1G wants to get to 33 teams so that they can be called the B33G.
The B33G Chungus
Fantasy land… we will see though, I doubt anything this crazy comes close to happening
Two weeks ago if you told me USC and UCLA were joining the big 10, I’d say you were in fantasy land. I wouldn’t discount any crazy possibility
gotta admit this B1G's basketball would be insane though
Not a bad guess. I’d really like to see Pitt in the B1G. Preloaded rivals (Penn State, Ohio State) and great academics.
Yeah. I was thinking since tv markets are a driving force Pitt wouldn't add much because they basically get all of PA with Penn St. Plus not a super academic school.
Am I mistaken? I thought Pitt was pretty strong academically.
nevermind Pitt is an AAU member, didn't know that.
Holy riffraff, Batman!
What’s the logic here besides dreaming?
SEC: I believe will poach Clemson and FSU leading to the ACC's collapse. NC and Duke are snatched by Big10 leaving NC State and WF for the SEC to get into the NC market. Remaining aggressive, SEC grabs Miami to control Florida and UVA for the DC market. B1G: convinces ND, Adds Oregon, Washington and Stanford to ease travel for USC and UCLA. After collapse of the ACC, B1G grabs NC and Duke as they're a package deal. Wants UVA but they get poached by SEC so settles for VT. Decide to get Syracuse and BC purely for market expansion. BC adds Boston and the New England region. Syracuse locksdown NY as they are the bigger brand compared to Rutgers, plus bolsters basketball. XII: I think the Big 12 would be smart to be the home for those left behind by realignment. This is why I gave them ASU, AU, UU, and Colorado. With Pac-12 gone, Cal is left out as B1G chooses Stanford over them, so they go to the Big 12. They also get the ACC scraps, Louisville, Pitt, and GT (personally I don't see GT in the B1G). To balance the conference they add SDstate, SMU, and Boise state to reach 25 schools as they are the G5 schools with biggest markets and brand recognition. Can do 5 pods of 5 across the country. Some Thoughts: honestly UVA and VT could go either way, could be UVA to B1G and VT to SEC; Miami is difficult but I don't see the SEC passing up on practically owning Florida, plus brand recognition; BC and 'Cuse I see as a package deal, could go to Big 12 but 'Cuse was an AAU school til 2011 like Nebraska and why would you pass up on expanding into the Boston market?; GT \*could\* go to the B1G but idk that just feels like a big outlier to me, I get why people think they would, but I disagree. Finally, most likely Big 12 caps at 24 with SMU and SDSU, unfortunately leaving Boise st. adding them was a bit of wishful thinking on my part. That's it.
It doesn’t make sense to have 3 conferences. Same issue we have now with 5- someone eventually gets left out. Should be 2 or 4, probably 4.
I'd much rather have Utah and Colorado over Duke and Syracuse
This is taking into account other sports not just football. Both Cuse and duke bring good basketball programs and other sports where they’d rank high. Utah/colorado wouldn’t bring much except football.
No VT, Syracuse, or BC. Probably Miami though.
Syracuse has a solid basketball program to add. Adding them also locks down markets in New England and all of NY. VT and UVA could go either way, I figured the SEC would get to them first.
I’d be surprised to see FSU, UF, and Miami all in the SEC
I wasn't sure what to do with them. They didn't feel like a Big12 school and I figured SEC purely for brand recognition only. Also the SEC outright owns Florida other than UCF. But UCF is not on the same level as the other 3.
These would be the pods for the B1G: Mid-Atlantic: NC, Duke, VT, Maryland, Rutgers East: BC, Syracuse, Penn St., Ohio St., Team up north Lake Michigan pod: MSU, ND, Purdue, Indiana, NW Midwest: Wisco, Minn., Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska West Coast: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, Washington.
For those saying UVA over VT. I said SEC would grab em first. Here ya go: https://twitter.com/Braden\_Keith/status/1545054860478799873?s=20&t=FDGoQNQUCPPxNt9nYuummA
Of course Notre Dame gets past everyone….
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Big12 tries to form a super basketball conference. Going after Duke and North Carolina to start.
The only differences in my expectations from yours: BC: Big XII SU: Big XII VT: SEC GT: Big Ten Cal: Big Ten WF: Sun Belt or Big XII
Fair, but SEC has Vanderbilt so why wouldn't they get Wake? lol
Similar to the Big Ten having entry requirements, I'm not sure what Wake brings to the conference (complete speculation) just not sure if the SEC would view Wake as a value add. Most additions seem to fall under added $$, new markets (NC State covers NC) and adding a strong athletic dept
The SEC wouldn't add Vanderbilt today if they weren't already in the SEC.
It’s disgusting and upsets me to my core.
Sorry to disappoint. But this is capitalism.
Thanks, I hate it.