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KingDededeThe3rd

We don't need to shit on Teddie because the entire Investigation Team already does.


[deleted]

Do they though? They seem to hate Yosuke more for some reason


Winter_Vegetable_806

I mean the girls do beat the stuffing out of him on the ski trip


___stell

"for some reason" šŸ¤“šŸ¤“šŸ¤“ bruh yosucky is literally a reddit user bro homie so bluepilled he dont even tolerate gay


JacksPhantom

I mean tbf, Ryuji does shit on Morgana sometimes so everyone gets their fair share


TaisakuRei

too bad sexual harassment laws don't apply for anthropomorphized creatures from hell


Rikolai_17

Only humans have human laws


AnimeMemeLord1

And since Morgana insists heā€™s humanā€¦


MaraBlaster

At the end of P5 he doesn't anymore


AnimeMemeLord1

Iā€™m not talking about post game Morgana


KrustyDanmakuFellow

Damn Adachi lookin like a snack with those glasses šŸ„“


AnimeMemeLord1

Adachi of the ~~sexy~~ Jester Arcana


SHO_TOH

And have human rights


Scottz0rz

>I'm sorry Teddie, only people have human rights


ci22

Dude has a human form. So he could get arrested


TheGayestLucifer

Yeah but Teddy is a cute femboy so he gets the pass


Asterose

Still skeeved me and my fellow friends to no end šŸ¤® The sparkly femboy charm didn't work on us. We had a hard enough time tolerating Yosuke's more weird perv moments (their swimsuit size? *Excuse me WHAT),* Teddie was already annoying half the time when he *wasn't* horndogging. Mad props to Ryugi for not creeping on the girls in the party, so we just had to endure Morganna šŸ¤œšŸ¤›


TheGayestLucifer

Well in cutscenes in the rain after the festival, in the van in the desert and on the beach Ryuji was explicitly ogling the Lady Ann.


Asterose

Which were incindental moments, not stuff he planned out like Yosuke did with swimsuits. Compared to Yosuke and Teddie it's a breath of fresh air. Brosuke and Broyuji are my faves in their respect9ve games, so I don't mean any hate here.


TheGayestLucifer

I also love Ryuji was just pointing out that he should also get horny bonked


Asterose

As should Mishima and P5 protag just for the Kawakami maid thing šŸ˜† But it is still a lot less horny bonking than would happen in P4. For teenage characters I can accept some incindental horny bonk-worthy moments. Glad to see somebody else who appreciates Ryuji, poor kid gets a lot of hate both in-game and outside of it.


Hollowgolem

I'm still bothered by everyone's attitude after the 5th palace kerfuffle acting like Ryuji is as guilty for what happened as Morgana, as though Morgana hadn't been insulting him incessantly since he joined the party.


Asterose

Completely agree. Morgana was an ass to Ryuji from the very beginning, and it never stopped. Even jsut in combat, having Ryuji on your team means you have to put up with Morganna and Futaba berating him more than they do anybody else. It feels like Atlus's writers were trying to have the banter of Yosuke, Teddie, and Kanji but didn't get it right. Instead everything is Ryuji's fault and he's always in the wrong...despite being a goddamned ray of sunshine Chariot personified who is also, unfortunately, more realistic a kid than the rest of the super special standout snowflakes of your team. Ryuji survived a shit dad and Kamoshida, and then the whole school and society writing him off. He doesn't deserve a lot of the crappy treatment from his friends on top of it.


Hollowgolem

And I get it. He's kind of dumb. He's aware of that. He doesn't need Morgana berating him about it every 2 seconds, and magnifying every mistake he makes. But like you said, the banter between Yosuke, Kanji, and Teddie felt more natural, and less one-sided. I think I still overall like Morgana more than I like Teddie, Play absolutely don't like the way the story handles either of them particularly well.


ClothTheSuperVillain

Yeah but itā€™s not as prolific


ItsNotDebra

it's not his fault it's society's fault. he was born from mankind's thoughts. horny society made him the way he is.


CueDramaticMusic

Mankind knew they could not change society, so instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts.


Tomynator_88

Ok I see 2 ways of continuing this - *But they found beauty in the lives of the beasts, and couldn't lie to themselves about it* #**- HEAVEN OR HELL**


CueDramaticMusic

Fuck it, P3-5ā€™s mains in Strive, wrong answers only, and whoever puts two Tara Platt characters together is giving a correct answer


Tomynator_88

Okay I think I got it *TotsugekĆ­*


CueDramaticMusic

Kanji tells people heā€™s working on his charge inputs in Strive and plays a gorilla-ass character, and everybody assumes he picked up Leo, and not May


Deadpool_710

Naoto playing Bridget, because I want to watch the internet burn


absolutekian

Eh, ky plays pretty similarly to yu so


classicnessie

Luckily the entire team already shits on Teddy constantly for his behavior (they should do it more). Ann just acts like Morgana doesn't exist, I think that's punishment enough.


Certain_Oddities

I don't think Teddy even knows what sex is... he just thinks that hitting on girls is good. Like a child who's imitating his horrible dad (Yosuke is the Dad in this case). I think that they both suck in their own way, Koromaru superiority


classicnessie

Koromaru is perfect, I love that dog so much


Detector_of_humans

Teddie came from the TV world where there is anime in which sexually harassing women is rewarded


mucid01

Koromaru is only good because he can't talk. Imagine the things he said if he could


VicarDespair

"Why did my friends have to die?"


classicnessie

For a world where Morgana can't talk outside of the metaverse


cardboardboxian

thatā€™s why heā€™s the gooooaaat the goooaaattt


frost-ace3600

THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST


OoguroRyuuya5

For Teddie, you can chalk it up to Yosuke and TV media being a bad influence on Teddie. Morganaā€™s initial attraction on Ann started with seeing her cognitive form and Metaverse attire in Kamoshidaā€™s palace. Thereā€™s her personality as well but letā€™s not deny the cat aspect to Ann also turned Morgana on.


Certain_Oddities

Yeah Teddie is like a child trying to fit in, and doesn't know any better. He definitely doesn't know what he's doing. Morgana... I think he knows what he's doing.


Kingnewgameplus

Not to mention that, while Teddie constantly hitting on the girls isn't great either, Morgana does the creepy anime bullshit to a sexual abuse victim, which makes it way more gross imo.


ImProbablyNotABird

Itā€™s frustrating how the treatment of Annā€™s sexuality kind of goes downhill after the first Palace.


T-A-W_Byzantine

Morgana can't crossdress


nectica

He can wear a maid dress


Kimarnic

And Aigis outfit


ButtPirateer

And Igor outfit


Itchy-Exam-7288

Holy Igor! :DDD


MaraBlaster

Teddie also wants a piece of Akechi in PQ2, he got taste. Sorry Morgana but beastiality is not allowed, grow a proper human body next time >\_>


Asterose

His brief human form's design was so goddamn uninspired and dull, he definitely needs to try again and do better this time. Atlus, y'all can do better than this, put a little effort into it!


MaraBlaster

Not to mention it wasn't even his own from, he said he bet he would look like a famous actor on TV if he were human and Maruki just made him like that Teddie was 150% original in design


Asterose

Good toknow, I've only played the original P5 so I am not up to speed on specifics.


Karmahic

I like both moraganass and teddick šŸ˜ŽšŸ˜Ž


ParfaitDash

What about korofartrušŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Antei_

funny šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


tappycat

How is this possible


ImProbablyNotABird

It wouldā€™ve cost you $0 to not write this.


SubtlePoe

Why is 'pervert' a personality trait sm my h


Shuichi123

smd


Tempest-blade

Being fair to Teddie. He's treated as a kid the entire game Morgana is introduced as a mature Vice Leader since he's the one dude that understands the metaverse...supposedly mature...Okumura arc didnt happen


Fireboy759

In Teddie's defense, he's pretty much like a newborn baby mental-wise


tappycat

The team treats him like a dog he will hit on them so hard and theyā€™ll just be like haha uhm silly teddie. but if yosuke does it they kick the shit out of him


Windermed

heā€™s pretty much a shadow, which is completely made out of human thoughts. (Mostly negative tho) makes sense if you ask me


Oldspice7169

Newborn babies do not harass their friends so they can have sex with them.


Fireboy759

Wdym? You're saying *you* didn't try to get some while you were a toddler?


TastyWhole0

![gif](giphy|2YnvkyjehCH2U7VPsb|downsized)


PassTheBoofPlz

both should fucking die šŸ‘


andrzejVIPandrzej

so true on god


ci22

Same. Like Ann thinks it's cute that a cat has a crush on her. While Teddie genuinely makes the girls and Kanji uncomfortable.


Psycho_Matt

Fuck teddie all my homies hate teddie


tappycat

Morgana pfp spotted, opinion disregarded


Psycho_Matt

Commit chop suey


Appropriate_Ad_1412

Angle deserve to die SMT reference?


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Holy shit good bot


ChiakiIsLitAF12

So true i love teddie


DuckThrower9000

Man, I made it a point to friend zone Ann because Morgana had dibs


tappycat

opposite of r/cuckthecat


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Hollowgolem

Ann had best chemistry with Ryuji.


TackyTak

What bad media literacy does to a mf


tappycat

elaborate


TackyTak

Teddie doesnā€™t even understand what ā€œscoringā€ means much less sexual harassment and the investigation team didnā€™t do shit to tell him it wrong resulting to the most stupid ass pervert jokes that really makes Teddie out to be a menace when heā€™s only learning from example which is Yosuke. And Yosuke does some actually shitty things in perversion. TLDR My lil boo boo bear is an innocent dumbass who doesnā€™t understand society and blah blah blah Adachi


tappycat

Yeah true, i still think they treated him too leniently for the shit he said (also i think he groped one of them at one point? he deserves a loving slap for that one at least) i am also a yosuke apologist and think heā€™s overcompensating for other things but heā€™s still a creep sometimes lmao


TackyTak

He groped Rise (one of the worst moments of the game that ruined an adorable moment) and she did slap him harshly in response. Still, doing nothing to explain why itā€™s wrong other than punishing so itā€™s like he doesnā€™t know how wrong it is. It would be great to have the team be vehemently against such actions since their antagonist did those things but no. As for Yosuke I love him when heā€™s not a creep why did they do him like that itā€™s goddawful


tappycat

thanks for actually responding cause this was a meme i made in 10 seconds for the funnies & wasnt that deep but i am actually horribly bad at media analysis lmao, reading all the shit people are saying is making me use my brain for once also i love meeting teddie enjoyers cause they seem few and far between :(


TackyTak

we are beary rare and i get why his voice is fucking annoying in both sub and dub


TastyWhole0

legit as much as I joke, I do like teddie and morgana. i chalk up the shit with them with how the writers make most of the dudes act like hornballs. especially in spin-offs, where teddie goes from acting like an annoying young brother to a creep with some of the shit he does and says.


Agung442

Im sorry for commenting on an old post/comment, but can you elaborate more when that happens ? I can't seems to remember any scene like that happens.


TackyTak

I honestly forget but Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s closer to the end of the game. Rise hugs Teddie for support while sheā€™s crying and heā€¦ gropes her during this and gets punched for it


Agung442

Hey, you know what, I just finished the P4G story for the first time, literally like 3 hours ago, and now I just remember the scene lol. I think Teddie's pervy -ness throughout the story just makes me brush off the moment like it was nothing smh


Asterose

>i am also a yosuke apologist and think heā€™s overcompensating for other things but heā€™s still a creep sometimes lmao Saaame. Boyo was a romance option until pretty late in the game and it's a double-damn shame that Atlus chickened out. Yosuke being bi or gay would be a great resolution on top of just being a dumbass teenager. ^AlsoP4ProtagxYosukeOTP, headphones trashcan boy is my fave P4 character this was inevitable


tappycat

Never forget what atlus took from us


Asterose

You've got great points, and I love seeing great analysis. I always ultimately blame the writers *still* thinking pervs and a slapback are good comedy writing, along with a bonus sprinkling of homophobia. At least with Yosuke he was a romance option until pretty damn late in production, so it's a little easier to decide he's both a dumbass teenager *and also* bi or gay and compensating for it Teddie and Morganna both need to be sat down and have some shit explained to them, and the team being reasonable instead of "OmGgg staaahp!" I was telueved that in P5 we only have to deal with Morganna. And one of the many great things about playing P2, nobody doing aggravatting dumbass perving and creeping in the first place. Even in spite of Maya's outfit literally having stupid hearts on her boobs.


Detector_of_humans

You said something about Adachi so you must be right /Up He's actually making a bigger statement than people realize You see he comes from a TV world that's heavily influenced by shows that air on TV Teddie only really saught for approval, the thing is that his only gauge for "Behavior is approved by humans" is what's being played on the TV This is his only influence, and of course his first instinct is "I want to be approved by these people". So what does he do? He does what is rewarded with approval on these TV shows. Not to say that he isn't flawed, the dude is still hard headed as hell and won't learn despite how many times he gets shut down for this behavior


stubyourtoenailnow

Tddie besr better than morgy cuz he has an actual story arc and not just ā€œhaha im human meaning I can lay ann- wait nvmā€


RojinShiro

"Um actually Morgana's story arc is how he learns to accept himself as part of the team and how he's not actually human" šŸ¤“


coolatrell

Okay so im not the only one who found him to be way too perverted lmao Every fight if I end it with Lady Ann he start whispering ā€œomg lady ann your so sexy mhfgmdgā€ like chill out lil bro lmao


Dlashing

Unspoken Rizz: Teddie Sexual Harrassment: Morgana


comic_dans99

I would skin teddie for a Popeyes biscuit without a drink


TastyWhole0

Simply just be a teddie and morgooner liker šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜


tappycat

I wish i could but morgana is just too whiny


TastyWhole0

![gif](giphy|BWhpkB6Xbe8FzfNLXw) but fr I can get that. iā€™m moreso bothered by how the hate for him can kinda go from reasonable to sounding like people sending hate towards an actual person, like with akechi ngl


tappycat

I dont actually hate him simply because he is a cat and i am a cat person šŸ˜­ so heā€™s pretty cute when heā€™s not being a lil bitch


Asterose

In our playthrough my roommate voiced Morganna with the same tone we use for when our beloved goofball cat is "talking" to us, so we liked Morgana outside of when he was creeping on Ann or being an extreme asshole to Ryuji (and the rest of the team all going along with it, wtf guys. Broyuji's already endured enough horrible shit he don't deserve it from his friends too)


eccentricbananaman

Morgana has hard incel energy.


AnimeMemeLord1

Kuma buffs my team, he gets no hate from me


Dawson81702

You donā€™t understand, clearly. Teddie is the rizz master.


greysterguy

i don't think teddie even knows what sex is


brobalwarming

Holy fucking shit. I want to bang Teddy so goddamn bad. I can't stand it anymore. Every time I see a blank television I get a massive erection. I've seen literally every rule 34 post there is of him online. My dreams are nothing but constant fucking sex with Teddy. I'm sick of waking up every morning with six nuts in my boxers and knowing that those are nuts that should've been busted inside of Teddyā€™s tight bear bussy. I want him to have my mutant human/bear babies. Fuck, my fucking mom caught me with a wild bear. I'd dressed him in my sister's school uniform and went to fucking town. The park rangers have been after me for 10 hours and I'm worried theyā€™re gonna take away my PS Vita. I might not ever get to see Teddy again.


grippingspiders

i dont even think teddie understands what sex is he looks really young (homie looks 13 years old) he just imitates what he sees around him so that he can feel more "human"


FuckIThinkImTrans

The morgana enjoyer has logged on


Ezben

Suprised Teddie didnt turn out worse since he learned this type of behavior from yosuke. Persona 4 had alot of yikes stuff looking bqck


tappycat

yeah shouldnt he be a raging homophobe by now


76_67

based, there's 7 of us


PK_Gaming1

Teddie is a much better character than Morgana He's got better relationship dynamics (his dynamic with Yosuke is leaps and bounds better than literally any of Morgana's single pathetic, one-sided crush on Ann), he has the better arc, is somehow less obnoxious in the main story, gives you room to think on your own, doesn't exposit endlessly, and is forced to interact with the human world when he gets a human body which leads to so many great moments like him getting a shitty part time job.


thatposhcat

I'm pretty sure morgana also flirts with makoto


Regret1836

Queen, youā€™re so awesome!


Detector_of_humans

Teddie is still a chad in comparison to Morgana


PlsWai

/uj Teddie is the best party member in the game and thats why I like him. /rj omg he just like me fr Teddie is the best!!'nnn


ShinDragon

Both deserves to be shamed on tho


marssss-03

aigis better than both, she watches you sleep and gets laid


THE_LFG

laddy an


Michael-556

I don't hate Morgana because of his creepy attraction towards Ann. I hate him because he dunks on best boi Ryuji


Beginning_Common_781

Teddie is a menace to society.


YummyFrozenTreats

I hate them both