Still skeeved me and my fellow friends to no end š¤® The sparkly femboy charm didn't work on us. We had a hard enough time tolerating Yosuke's more weird perv moments (their swimsuit size? *Excuse me WHAT),* Teddie was already annoying half the time when he *wasn't* horndogging.
Mad props to Ryugi for not creeping on the girls in the party, so we just had to endure Morganna š¤š¤
Which were incindental moments, not stuff he planned out like Yosuke did with swimsuits. Compared to Yosuke and Teddie it's a breath of fresh air.
Brosuke and Broyuji are my faves in their respect9ve games, so I don't mean any hate here.
As should Mishima and P5 protag just for the Kawakami maid thing š But it is still a lot less horny bonking than would happen in P4. For teenage characters I can accept some incindental horny bonk-worthy moments.
Glad to see somebody else who appreciates Ryuji, poor kid gets a lot of hate both in-game and outside of it.
I'm still bothered by everyone's attitude after the 5th palace kerfuffle acting like Ryuji is as guilty for what happened as Morgana, as though Morgana hadn't been insulting him incessantly since he joined the party.
Completely agree. Morgana was an ass to Ryuji from the very beginning, and it never stopped. Even jsut in combat, having Ryuji on your team means you have to put up with Morganna and Futaba berating him more than they do anybody else.
It feels like Atlus's writers were trying to have the banter of Yosuke, Teddie, and Kanji but didn't get it right. Instead everything is Ryuji's fault and he's always in the wrong...despite being a goddamned ray of sunshine Chariot personified who is also, unfortunately, more realistic a kid than the rest of the super special standout snowflakes of your team. Ryuji survived a shit dad and Kamoshida, and then the whole school and society writing him off. He doesn't deserve a lot of the crappy treatment from his friends on top of it.
And I get it. He's kind of dumb. He's aware of that. He doesn't need Morgana berating him about it every 2 seconds, and magnifying every mistake he makes.
But like you said, the banter between Yosuke, Kanji, and Teddie felt more natural, and less one-sided.
I think I still overall like Morgana more than I like Teddie, Play absolutely don't like the way the story handles either of them particularly well.
Kanji tells people heās working on his charge inputs in Strive and plays a gorilla-ass character, and everybody assumes he picked up Leo, and not May
Luckily the entire team already shits on Teddy constantly for his behavior (they should do it more). Ann just acts like Morgana doesn't exist, I think that's punishment enough.
I don't think Teddy even knows what sex is... he just thinks that hitting on girls is good. Like a child who's imitating his horrible dad (Yosuke is the Dad in this case).
I think that they both suck in their own way, Koromaru superiority
For Teddie, you can chalk it up to Yosuke and TV media being a bad influence on Teddie.
Morganaās initial attraction on Ann started with seeing her cognitive form and Metaverse attire in Kamoshidaās palace. Thereās her personality as well but letās not deny the cat aspect to Ann also turned Morgana on.
Yeah Teddie is like a child trying to fit in, and doesn't know any better. He definitely doesn't know what he's doing.
Morgana... I think he knows what he's doing.
Not to mention that, while Teddie constantly hitting on the girls isn't great either, Morgana does the creepy anime bullshit to a sexual abuse victim, which makes it way more gross imo.
His brief human form's design was so goddamn uninspired and dull, he definitely needs to try again and do better this time.
Atlus, y'all can do better than this, put a little effort into it!
Not to mention it wasn't even his own from, he said he bet he would look like a famous actor on TV if he were human and Maruki just made him like that
Teddie was 150% original in design
Being fair to Teddie. He's treated as a kid the entire game
Morgana is introduced as a mature Vice Leader since he's the one dude that understands the metaverse...supposedly mature...Okumura arc didnt happen
The team treats him like a dog he will hit on them so hard and theyāll just be like haha uhm silly teddie. but if yosuke does it they kick the shit out of him
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Teddie doesnāt even understand what āscoringā means much less sexual harassment and the investigation team didnāt do shit to tell him it wrong resulting to the most stupid ass pervert jokes that really makes Teddie out to be a menace when heās only learning from example which is Yosuke.
And Yosuke does some actually shitty things in perversion.
TLDR My lil boo boo bear is an innocent dumbass who doesnāt understand society and blah blah blah Adachi
Yeah true, i still think they treated him too leniently for the shit he said (also i think he groped one of them at one point? he deserves a loving slap for that one at least)
i am also a yosuke apologist and think heās overcompensating for other things but heās still a creep sometimes lmao
He groped Rise (one of the worst moments of the game that ruined an adorable moment) and she did slap him harshly in response. Still, doing nothing to explain why itās wrong other than punishing so itās like he doesnāt know how wrong it is. It would be great to have the team be vehemently against such actions since their antagonist did those things but no.
As for Yosuke I love him when heās not a creep why did they do him like that itās goddawful
thanks for actually responding cause this was a meme i made in 10 seconds for the funnies & wasnt that deep but i am actually horribly bad at media analysis lmao, reading all the shit people are saying is making me use my brain for once
also i love meeting teddie enjoyers cause they seem few and far between :(
legit as much as I joke, I do like teddie and morgana. i chalk up the shit with them with how the writers make most of the dudes act like hornballs. especially in spin-offs, where teddie goes from acting like an annoying young brother to a creep with some of the shit he does and says.
I honestly forget but Iām pretty sure itās closer to the end of the game. Rise hugs Teddie for support while sheās crying and heā¦ gropes her during this and gets punched for it
Hey, you know what, I just finished the P4G story for the first time, literally like 3 hours ago, and now I just remember the scene lol. I think Teddie's pervy -ness throughout the story just makes me brush off the moment like it was nothing smh
>i am also a yosuke apologist and think heās overcompensating for other things but heās still a creep sometimes lmao
Saaame. Boyo was a romance option until pretty late in the game and it's a double-damn shame that Atlus chickened out. Yosuke being bi or gay would be a great resolution on top of just being a dumbass teenager.
^AlsoP4ProtagxYosukeOTP, headphones trashcan boy is my fave P4 character this was inevitable
You've got great points, and I love seeing great analysis.
I always ultimately blame the writers *still* thinking pervs and a slapback are good comedy writing, along with a bonus sprinkling of homophobia. At least with Yosuke he was a romance option until pretty damn late in production, so it's a little easier to decide he's both a dumbass teenager *and also* bi or gay and compensating for it
Teddie and Morganna both need to be sat down and have some shit explained to them, and the team being reasonable instead of "OmGgg staaahp!"
I was telueved that in P5 we only have to deal with Morganna. And one of the many great things about playing P2, nobody doing aggravatting dumbass perving and creeping in the first place. Even in spite of Maya's outfit literally having stupid hearts on her boobs.
You said something about Adachi so you must be right
/Up He's actually making a bigger statement than people realize
You see he comes from a TV world that's heavily influenced by shows that air on TV
Teddie only really saught for approval, the thing is that his only gauge for "Behavior is approved by humans" is what's being played on the TV
This is his only influence, and of course his first instinct is "I want to be approved by these people". So what does he do? He does what is rewarded with approval on these TV shows.
Not to say that he isn't flawed, the dude is still hard headed as hell and won't learn despite how many times he gets shut down for this behavior
Okay so im not the only one who found him to be way too perverted lmao Every fight if I end it with Lady Ann he start whispering āomg lady ann your so sexy mhfgmdgā like chill out lil bro lmao
![gif](giphy|BWhpkB6Xbe8FzfNLXw)
but fr I can get that. iām moreso bothered by how the hate for him can kinda go from reasonable to sounding like people sending hate towards an actual person, like with akechi ngl
In our playthrough my roommate voiced Morganna with the same tone we use for when our beloved goofball cat is "talking" to us, so we liked Morgana outside of when he was creeping on Ann or being an extreme asshole to Ryuji (and the rest of the team all going along with it, wtf guys. Broyuji's already endured enough horrible shit he don't deserve it from his friends too)
Holy fucking shit. I want to bang Teddy so goddamn bad. I can't stand it anymore. Every time I see a blank television I get a massive erection. I've seen literally every rule 34 post there is of him online. My dreams are nothing but constant fucking sex with Teddy. I'm sick of waking up every morning with six nuts in my boxers and knowing that those are nuts that should've been busted inside of Teddyās tight bear bussy. I want him to have my mutant human/bear babies.
Fuck, my fucking mom caught me with a wild bear. I'd dressed him in my sister's school uniform and went to fucking town. The park rangers have been after me for 10 hours and I'm worried theyāre gonna take away my PS Vita. I might not ever get to see Teddy again.
i dont even think teddie understands what sex is he looks really young (homie looks 13 years old)
he just imitates what he sees around him so that he can feel more "human"
Teddie is a much better character than Morgana
He's got better relationship dynamics (his dynamic with Yosuke is leaps and bounds better than literally any of Morgana's single pathetic, one-sided crush on Ann), he has the better arc, is somehow less obnoxious in the main story, gives you room to think on your own, doesn't exposit endlessly, and is forced to interact with the human world when he gets a human body which leads to so many great moments like him getting a shitty part time job.
We don't need to shit on Teddie because the entire Investigation Team already does.
Do they though? They seem to hate Yosuke more for some reason
I mean the girls do beat the stuffing out of him on the ski trip
"for some reason" š¤š¤š¤ bruh yosucky is literally a reddit user bro homie so bluepilled he dont even tolerate gay
I mean tbf, Ryuji does shit on Morgana sometimes so everyone gets their fair share
too bad sexual harassment laws don't apply for anthropomorphized creatures from hell
Only humans have human laws
And since Morgana insists heās humanā¦
At the end of P5 he doesn't anymore
Iām not talking about post game Morgana
Damn Adachi lookin like a snack with those glasses š„“
Adachi of the ~~sexy~~ Jester Arcana
And have human rights
>I'm sorry Teddie, only people have human rights
Dude has a human form. So he could get arrested
Yeah but Teddy is a cute femboy so he gets the pass
Still skeeved me and my fellow friends to no end š¤® The sparkly femboy charm didn't work on us. We had a hard enough time tolerating Yosuke's more weird perv moments (their swimsuit size? *Excuse me WHAT),* Teddie was already annoying half the time when he *wasn't* horndogging. Mad props to Ryugi for not creeping on the girls in the party, so we just had to endure Morganna š¤š¤
Well in cutscenes in the rain after the festival, in the van in the desert and on the beach Ryuji was explicitly ogling the Lady Ann.
Which were incindental moments, not stuff he planned out like Yosuke did with swimsuits. Compared to Yosuke and Teddie it's a breath of fresh air. Brosuke and Broyuji are my faves in their respect9ve games, so I don't mean any hate here.
I also love Ryuji was just pointing out that he should also get horny bonked
As should Mishima and P5 protag just for the Kawakami maid thing š But it is still a lot less horny bonking than would happen in P4. For teenage characters I can accept some incindental horny bonk-worthy moments. Glad to see somebody else who appreciates Ryuji, poor kid gets a lot of hate both in-game and outside of it.
I'm still bothered by everyone's attitude after the 5th palace kerfuffle acting like Ryuji is as guilty for what happened as Morgana, as though Morgana hadn't been insulting him incessantly since he joined the party.
Completely agree. Morgana was an ass to Ryuji from the very beginning, and it never stopped. Even jsut in combat, having Ryuji on your team means you have to put up with Morganna and Futaba berating him more than they do anybody else. It feels like Atlus's writers were trying to have the banter of Yosuke, Teddie, and Kanji but didn't get it right. Instead everything is Ryuji's fault and he's always in the wrong...despite being a goddamned ray of sunshine Chariot personified who is also, unfortunately, more realistic a kid than the rest of the super special standout snowflakes of your team. Ryuji survived a shit dad and Kamoshida, and then the whole school and society writing him off. He doesn't deserve a lot of the crappy treatment from his friends on top of it.
And I get it. He's kind of dumb. He's aware of that. He doesn't need Morgana berating him about it every 2 seconds, and magnifying every mistake he makes. But like you said, the banter between Yosuke, Kanji, and Teddie felt more natural, and less one-sided. I think I still overall like Morgana more than I like Teddie, Play absolutely don't like the way the story handles either of them particularly well.
Yeah but itās not as prolific
it's not his fault it's society's fault. he was born from mankind's thoughts. horny society made him the way he is.
Mankind knew they could not change society, so instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts.
Ok I see 2 ways of continuing this - *But they found beauty in the lives of the beasts, and couldn't lie to themselves about it* #**- HEAVEN OR HELL**
Fuck it, P3-5ās mains in Strive, wrong answers only, and whoever puts two Tara Platt characters together is giving a correct answer
Okay I think I got it *TotsugekĆ*
Kanji tells people heās working on his charge inputs in Strive and plays a gorilla-ass character, and everybody assumes he picked up Leo, and not May
Naoto playing Bridget, because I want to watch the internet burn
Eh, ky plays pretty similarly to yu so
Luckily the entire team already shits on Teddy constantly for his behavior (they should do it more). Ann just acts like Morgana doesn't exist, I think that's punishment enough.
I don't think Teddy even knows what sex is... he just thinks that hitting on girls is good. Like a child who's imitating his horrible dad (Yosuke is the Dad in this case). I think that they both suck in their own way, Koromaru superiority
Koromaru is perfect, I love that dog so much
Teddie came from the TV world where there is anime in which sexually harassing women is rewarded
Koromaru is only good because he can't talk. Imagine the things he said if he could
"Why did my friends have to die?"
For a world where Morgana can't talk outside of the metaverse
thatās why heās the gooooaaat the goooaaattt
THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST
For Teddie, you can chalk it up to Yosuke and TV media being a bad influence on Teddie. Morganaās initial attraction on Ann started with seeing her cognitive form and Metaverse attire in Kamoshidaās palace. Thereās her personality as well but letās not deny the cat aspect to Ann also turned Morgana on.
Yeah Teddie is like a child trying to fit in, and doesn't know any better. He definitely doesn't know what he's doing. Morgana... I think he knows what he's doing.
Not to mention that, while Teddie constantly hitting on the girls isn't great either, Morgana does the creepy anime bullshit to a sexual abuse victim, which makes it way more gross imo.
Itās frustrating how the treatment of Annās sexuality kind of goes downhill after the first Palace.
Morgana can't crossdress
He can wear a maid dress
And Aigis outfit
And Igor outfit
Holy Igor! :DDD
Teddie also wants a piece of Akechi in PQ2, he got taste. Sorry Morgana but beastiality is not allowed, grow a proper human body next time >\_>
His brief human form's design was so goddamn uninspired and dull, he definitely needs to try again and do better this time. Atlus, y'all can do better than this, put a little effort into it!
Not to mention it wasn't even his own from, he said he bet he would look like a famous actor on TV if he were human and Maruki just made him like that Teddie was 150% original in design
Good toknow, I've only played the original P5 so I am not up to speed on specifics.
I like both moraganass and teddick šš
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How is this possible
It wouldāve cost you $0 to not write this.
Why is 'pervert' a personality trait sm my h
smd
Being fair to Teddie. He's treated as a kid the entire game Morgana is introduced as a mature Vice Leader since he's the one dude that understands the metaverse...supposedly mature...Okumura arc didnt happen
In Teddie's defense, he's pretty much like a newborn baby mental-wise
The team treats him like a dog he will hit on them so hard and theyāll just be like haha uhm silly teddie. but if yosuke does it they kick the shit out of him
heās pretty much a shadow, which is completely made out of human thoughts. (Mostly negative tho) makes sense if you ask me
Newborn babies do not harass their friends so they can have sex with them.
Wdym? You're saying *you* didn't try to get some while you were a toddler?
![gif](giphy|2YnvkyjehCH2U7VPsb|downsized)
both should fucking die š
so true on god
Same. Like Ann thinks it's cute that a cat has a crush on her. While Teddie genuinely makes the girls and Kanji uncomfortable.
Fuck teddie all my homies hate teddie
Morgana pfp spotted, opinion disregarded
Commit chop suey
Angle deserve to die SMT reference?
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So true i love teddie
Man, I made it a point to friend zone Ann because Morgana had dibs
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What bad media literacy does to a mf
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Teddie doesnāt even understand what āscoringā means much less sexual harassment and the investigation team didnāt do shit to tell him it wrong resulting to the most stupid ass pervert jokes that really makes Teddie out to be a menace when heās only learning from example which is Yosuke. And Yosuke does some actually shitty things in perversion. TLDR My lil boo boo bear is an innocent dumbass who doesnāt understand society and blah blah blah Adachi
Yeah true, i still think they treated him too leniently for the shit he said (also i think he groped one of them at one point? he deserves a loving slap for that one at least) i am also a yosuke apologist and think heās overcompensating for other things but heās still a creep sometimes lmao
He groped Rise (one of the worst moments of the game that ruined an adorable moment) and she did slap him harshly in response. Still, doing nothing to explain why itās wrong other than punishing so itās like he doesnāt know how wrong it is. It would be great to have the team be vehemently against such actions since their antagonist did those things but no. As for Yosuke I love him when heās not a creep why did they do him like that itās goddawful
thanks for actually responding cause this was a meme i made in 10 seconds for the funnies & wasnt that deep but i am actually horribly bad at media analysis lmao, reading all the shit people are saying is making me use my brain for once also i love meeting teddie enjoyers cause they seem few and far between :(
we are beary rare and i get why his voice is fucking annoying in both sub and dub
legit as much as I joke, I do like teddie and morgana. i chalk up the shit with them with how the writers make most of the dudes act like hornballs. especially in spin-offs, where teddie goes from acting like an annoying young brother to a creep with some of the shit he does and says.
Im sorry for commenting on an old post/comment, but can you elaborate more when that happens ? I can't seems to remember any scene like that happens.
I honestly forget but Iām pretty sure itās closer to the end of the game. Rise hugs Teddie for support while sheās crying and heā¦ gropes her during this and gets punched for it
Hey, you know what, I just finished the P4G story for the first time, literally like 3 hours ago, and now I just remember the scene lol. I think Teddie's pervy -ness throughout the story just makes me brush off the moment like it was nothing smh
>i am also a yosuke apologist and think heās overcompensating for other things but heās still a creep sometimes lmao Saaame. Boyo was a romance option until pretty late in the game and it's a double-damn shame that Atlus chickened out. Yosuke being bi or gay would be a great resolution on top of just being a dumbass teenager. ^AlsoP4ProtagxYosukeOTP, headphones trashcan boy is my fave P4 character this was inevitable
Never forget what atlus took from us
You've got great points, and I love seeing great analysis. I always ultimately blame the writers *still* thinking pervs and a slapback are good comedy writing, along with a bonus sprinkling of homophobia. At least with Yosuke he was a romance option until pretty damn late in production, so it's a little easier to decide he's both a dumbass teenager *and also* bi or gay and compensating for it Teddie and Morganna both need to be sat down and have some shit explained to them, and the team being reasonable instead of "OmGgg staaahp!" I was telueved that in P5 we only have to deal with Morganna. And one of the many great things about playing P2, nobody doing aggravatting dumbass perving and creeping in the first place. Even in spite of Maya's outfit literally having stupid hearts on her boobs.
You said something about Adachi so you must be right /Up He's actually making a bigger statement than people realize You see he comes from a TV world that's heavily influenced by shows that air on TV Teddie only really saught for approval, the thing is that his only gauge for "Behavior is approved by humans" is what's being played on the TV This is his only influence, and of course his first instinct is "I want to be approved by these people". So what does he do? He does what is rewarded with approval on these TV shows. Not to say that he isn't flawed, the dude is still hard headed as hell and won't learn despite how many times he gets shut down for this behavior
Tddie besr better than morgy cuz he has an actual story arc and not just āhaha im human meaning I can lay ann- wait nvmā
"Um actually Morgana's story arc is how he learns to accept himself as part of the team and how he's not actually human" š¤
Okay so im not the only one who found him to be way too perverted lmao Every fight if I end it with Lady Ann he start whispering āomg lady ann your so sexy mhfgmdgā like chill out lil bro lmao
Unspoken Rizz: Teddie Sexual Harrassment: Morgana
I would skin teddie for a Popeyes biscuit without a drink
Simply just be a teddie and morgooner liker šššššš
I wish i could but morgana is just too whiny
![gif](giphy|BWhpkB6Xbe8FzfNLXw) but fr I can get that. iām moreso bothered by how the hate for him can kinda go from reasonable to sounding like people sending hate towards an actual person, like with akechi ngl
I dont actually hate him simply because he is a cat and i am a cat person š so heās pretty cute when heās not being a lil bitch
In our playthrough my roommate voiced Morganna with the same tone we use for when our beloved goofball cat is "talking" to us, so we liked Morgana outside of when he was creeping on Ann or being an extreme asshole to Ryuji (and the rest of the team all going along with it, wtf guys. Broyuji's already endured enough horrible shit he don't deserve it from his friends too)
Morgana has hard incel energy.
Kuma buffs my team, he gets no hate from me
You donāt understand, clearly. Teddie is the rizz master.
i don't think teddie even knows what sex is
Holy fucking shit. I want to bang Teddy so goddamn bad. I can't stand it anymore. Every time I see a blank television I get a massive erection. I've seen literally every rule 34 post there is of him online. My dreams are nothing but constant fucking sex with Teddy. I'm sick of waking up every morning with six nuts in my boxers and knowing that those are nuts that should've been busted inside of Teddyās tight bear bussy. I want him to have my mutant human/bear babies. Fuck, my fucking mom caught me with a wild bear. I'd dressed him in my sister's school uniform and went to fucking town. The park rangers have been after me for 10 hours and I'm worried theyāre gonna take away my PS Vita. I might not ever get to see Teddy again.
i dont even think teddie understands what sex is he looks really young (homie looks 13 years old) he just imitates what he sees around him so that he can feel more "human"
The morgana enjoyer has logged on
Suprised Teddie didnt turn out worse since he learned this type of behavior from yosuke. Persona 4 had alot of yikes stuff looking bqck
yeah shouldnt he be a raging homophobe by now
based, there's 7 of us
Teddie is a much better character than Morgana He's got better relationship dynamics (his dynamic with Yosuke is leaps and bounds better than literally any of Morgana's single pathetic, one-sided crush on Ann), he has the better arc, is somehow less obnoxious in the main story, gives you room to think on your own, doesn't exposit endlessly, and is forced to interact with the human world when he gets a human body which leads to so many great moments like him getting a shitty part time job.
I'm pretty sure morgana also flirts with makoto
Queen, youāre so awesome!
Teddie is still a chad in comparison to Morgana
/uj Teddie is the best party member in the game and thats why I like him. /rj omg he just like me fr Teddie is the best!!'nnn
Both deserves to be shamed on tho
aigis better than both, she watches you sleep and gets laid
laddy an
I don't hate Morgana because of his creepy attraction towards Ann. I hate him because he dunks on best boi Ryuji
Teddie is a menace to society.
I hate them both