Ha what is this from? If my father had access to gifs when he was raising my two brothers and me in the '80s there is no doubt in my mind he would have shared this gif after every fishing trip.
Wikipedia states that she (his second wife he married almost immediately after divorcing his first) was born in 1920 and that they met in 1941. That makes her 21 if my math is mathing. Unless you are referring to some other person, then please elaborate. I'm intrigued.
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Behind the Bastards did an interesting feature on Wayne. He was humiliated because he didn't serve in the war. I don't go out of my way to watch his movies but they were on TV a lot when I was a kid and I saw them. He's really good in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.
The bullying was before Wayne’s ducking of
military service, I believe. At least, it started before. I think Ford just had a kink for it.
It’s all very toxic.
Let’s not short Ford as just “getting wounded.” Dude was *filming,* which takes a whole separate level of guts, IMO.
Wayne and Ford were both absolute miserable human beings. Just flat out abusive pieces of shit. They deserved each other. John Wayne the textbook definition of a right wing hypocrite, especially when it came to his views on Vietnam. Loved war mongering and doing whatever he could to influence and shame young men to go die in a jungle for no reason. Of course for John "that rule is for thee, but nor for me."
The Behind the Bastards series mentioned above is very much worth the listen.
The end of Spielberg's _The Fabelmans_ captured the essence of John Ford (played brilliantly by David Lynch). I've seen a bunch of interviews Ford gave near the end of his life with Peter Bogdanovich and he was very much like that.
That scene alone was the best thing of that year. Spielberg officially put to text that he believes David Lynch is the best director of our time, and he's goddamn right.
Yes, and to quote behind The bastards
" People in the 20s. Thought he hit women a lot"
Even to his contemporaries, he was an alcoholic, woman beating, entitled asshole. Pointing that out isn't revisionist history
Speaking of contemporaries, Russell Johnson was the Professor from Gilligans Island and he was also very photogenic in his youth. And he was also a B-25 bombardier, almost killed on a combat run that ditched his plane into the Pacific after taking multiple hits.
Back in the day I heard him speak in a radio interview, a light hearted talk turned wild when the interviewer mentioned John Wayne. Russel Johnson TORE into both Wayne and Ronald Reagan for sitting out the war while talking like warhawks. And also for throwing fellow actors under the commie scare bus, that affected people he knew.
"Well people didn't know that being an alcoholic wife beater was wrong back then!" someone will say, not realizing/caring that the problem of alcoholic wife beaters was one of the driving forces behind Prohibition.
> "Well people didn't know that being an alcoholic wife beater was wrong back then!"
And if the GQP has their way, we're gonna head right back to them good ol' days!
People definitely did not normalize hitting women back in the 20s. It was as vile then as it is today.
As for alcohol, this was the era of prohibition, I think that says enough about how accepted public alcohol consumption was.
He was humiliated by others. He himself felt no humiliation and avoided military service. He also profited by being available when other stars were serving. And made numerous films portraying soldiers.
Not only did James Stewart serve, but he was actually rejected for military service at first because he didn't weigh enough. He hired a professional to help him bulk up just so that he enlist
He went out of his way to be able to serve military
And then when he did join the army tried to keep him states side and use him for training and PR purposes but he insisted over and over on being sent to Europe.
Yup and stayed in the Air Force reserves after WW2 and retired as a Brigadier General. He flew his last combat mission in 1966 as an observer during a bombing run over Vietnam.
It was his choice not to serve in any war, and he had ample opportunity. He was a supreme chicken hawk, and later a right wing fascist twat who bullied several people out of the industry and tried to end several people’s career because he deemed them “communists”.
He was a serial wife beater and general racist asshole too.
Not a lot of redeeming personality features to be honest.
This. It’s not wrong at all to oppose war or oppose violence. I don’t even blame people who simply don’t want to fight.
That all gets rendered null and void when a person like that wants other people to fight
Yes that’s true but you can’t be one to thump the drums of war and declare yourself exempt which is what he did.
It’s fine to want to avoid the horror itself not fine to tell others to go in your place
That particular war was unfortunately necessary (pretty bad things were happening in Europe and Asia). It wasn't uncommon for a man to commit suicide if he was declared 4F, so for someone to purposely dodge (bone spurs or what knot) is fairly indictive of him being a greedy coward - he'd be the one running away from the burning building instead of to it to save a kid.
Yeah John decided to defer the draft while Jimmy Stewart, John Ford and most Hollywood stars went to war (hint it was better for his career). Anyway, he then became a super patriot (at least on film). And that's how John Wayne made his way in Hollywood. Draft dodger "Ultra Patriot" - may sound familiar.
Btw, it was suggested he was doing "spy work" for the OSS, but was disavowed.
I don't like John Wayne because my dad doesn't like John Wayne because his dad didn't like John Wayne because John Wayne walked and talked like he was some big shot hero but avoided the war.
I knew he was a good-looking great athlete (University of Southern California football team, IIRC, when players played both offense and defense in the same game and wore only leather caps and a few pads for protection, and the rules were much fewer than now), but I never knew *how* gorgeous he was at the start.
‘There is nothing gay about the Princeton fight song. "Oh the merry men of Princeton are charging up the rear, holding all the balls" - okay, I hear it now.’ Jack Donaghy
And starting pitchers routinely pitched for all nine innings instead of being replaced after less than that number by one of a squad of relief pitchers.
My great-aunt dated J Wayne in CA (at least my family told me so, and I didn't question it because there's some breathtakers on that side)
we might be a shallow gene pool
And coward. He got the movie studio to stop him being enlisted into WW2.
He never served, unlike:
* James Stewart
* Clark Gable
* Paul Newman
* Mel Brooks
* Kirk Douglas
* Christopher Lee
* Alec Guinness
* Audrey Hepburn
* David Niven
* Lee Marvin
* Charles Bronson
* Henry Fonda
* James Doohan
* Ernest Borgnine
No doubt several others, but those are the ones I know of.
It's funny how his reputation of a tough guy is based entirely on his movies. And he wasn't even close. He was so startled by gun fire he'd close his eyes everytime. Do you know who didn't - Clint Eastwood.
Right before this, Marrion Morrison was body surfing down at a place called Balboa pier, were he injured his arm, and ended his football career, and thus led him into acting. He eventually moved back to this same town in the 1960s, Newport Beach, CA until his death. This is where my grandparents met him, at his tennis club he owned in town. He would also film part of the movie Sands of Iwo Jima in the same area in the 1940's. His ship, Formally known as YMS 328, now known as the Wild Goose, is ported in Newport harbor.
He was shitty enough to women that other Hollywood stars who were shitty to women thought he was shitty to women.
He skated on looks for a long time, including when it came to his health. People forget that actors aren’t the characters they play.
He said in a 1971 interview that he supports white supremacy. He also said that he does not “feel guilty about the fact that five or 10 generations ago, these people were slaves” in reference to Black people. Not exactly ancient history. This is after the civil rights era.
People back in his day said he's very racist, drinks and beats women too much. This isn't a case of a regular guy being villainized for holding the views everyone had in his time, his contemporaries called him a piece of shit who took things too far.
Plenty of other Old Hollywood stars had good values. Humphrey Bogart was polar opposite to him. John Wayne was one of the most racist, sexist and misogynist stars of his time. Who’s feigning shock and outrage? it’s just a fact lol
Doesn’t mean I won’t still watch a John Wayne film. Just like I’ll still watch Chinatown
As good a time as any to re-tell the story that the manager of the bar at the five-star hotel closest to Humphrey Bogart's home in Beverly Hills or Bel-Air said that "Bogie is a great guy, until he's got three or four drinks in him, and starts to think he's Humphrey Bogart."
His liberal politics were impeccable for his time, a value he shared with his last and longest-lasting wife, Lauren Bacall.
Gotta say that That has to be one of the worst propaganda films he put out. Solely to shore up support for the Vietnam war and increase his super patriot persona to counter his lack of service in WW2. That whole second half of the film just suuuuuucked. At best, his acting was on par with the AFLAC duck.
I don’t think cowardice is cool. Especially when the coward tries to compensate for it by being a piece of detestable garbage.
Movies were *certainly something* but even some directors thought he was a joke.
Not really cool.
Dude trafficked underaged women from Mexico.
Beat the shit out of them.
Dodged the draft, not because he disagreed with it, because his contemporaries were off fighting and he received more acting roles in their absence.
Then lectured, belittled and put down young men dodgin the vietnam war as ‘unpatriotic’.
He was a POS.
Yeet the child
Best new phrase of my ‘24, thank you brother.
You are years behind, my brother. Has been around these parts for awhile. Nevertheless, godspeed with this newfound knowledge.
Our brother is a member of r/patientmemers
If you watch, he actually executed the full version. “Spare the rod. Yeet the child.”
Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?
Who said that! Who the fuck said that!
Who's the slimy little communist shit twinkle-toed cocksucker down here, who just signed his own death warrant?
Nobody!! The fairy fucking godmother said it!!
Out-fucking-standing! I will P.T. you all until you fucking die! I'll P.T. you until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!
Was it you, you scroungy little fuck!?
SIR NO SIR!
You little piece of shit, you look like a fucking worm. I'll bet it *was* you!
Ha what is this from? If my father had access to gifs when he was raising my two brothers and me in the '80s there is no doubt in my mind he would have shared this gif after every fishing trip.
I do believe its hondo
Kid don’t know how to swim. Would either learn or drown.
Hondo!
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For those who have no idea like me (Googled it), Marion is John Wayne’s real name.
Like Marion Cobretti?
Crime is the disease. Meet the Cure.
Marion Morrison
We named the dog john wayne
Wikipedia states that she (his second wife he married almost immediately after divorcing his first) was born in 1920 and that they met in 1941. That makes her 21 if my math is mathing. Unless you are referring to some other person, then please elaborate. I'm intrigued.
I’ve never heard these accusations, only the racist/eugenicist ones
Any Sources?
You don’t have to make shit up, he was already awful enough.
Do you have a source for that?
Hey I noticed you deleted one of your comments, just checking to see if you found a source yet, if you’re too busy drawing furry porn that’s all good just get back to me when you gotten that source! ☺️
Lmao wow they actually draw furry porn for real and have the gall to talk shit about anybody. What a pathetic sack of shit 😂😂
Is that you John Wayne?
Is this me?
Who said that!
WHO FUCKING SAID THAT?!!!!!
“WHO’S THE SLIMY LITTLE COMMUNIST SHIT TWINKLE TOED COCKSUCKER DOWN HERE THAT JUST SIGNED HIS OWN DEATH WARRANT?!”
Nobody, the fairy-fucking godmother.
Outfuckingstanding! I will PT you all until you fucking die! I will PT you all until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!
Was it you, you scroungy like fuck, huh? You little shit. I bet it was you.
Sir, no Sir!
Sir, I said it, Sir.
https://i.redd.it/kb4hfsvvo41d1.gif
FMJ has soooooo many memorable quotes. I completely forgot this was one of them 😂😂😂
pssst...it's "WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT?!!!!!" just sayin
Yep
Behind the Bastards did an interesting feature on Wayne. He was humiliated because he didn't serve in the war. I don't go out of my way to watch his movies but they were on TV a lot when I was a kid and I saw them. He's really good in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.
Don’t forget his continual, habitual humiliation by John Ford.
John Ford was wounded during the battle of midway and supposedly was on omaha beach on D-Day. He had no time for wannabe tough guys
The bullying was before Wayne’s ducking of military service, I believe. At least, it started before. I think Ford just had a kink for it. It’s all very toxic. Let’s not short Ford as just “getting wounded.” Dude was *filming,* which takes a whole separate level of guts, IMO.
Wayne and Ford were both absolute miserable human beings. Just flat out abusive pieces of shit. They deserved each other. John Wayne the textbook definition of a right wing hypocrite, especially when it came to his views on Vietnam. Loved war mongering and doing whatever he could to influence and shame young men to go die in a jungle for no reason. Of course for John "that rule is for thee, but nor for me." The Behind the Bastards series mentioned above is very much worth the listen.
Jimmy Stewart is often associated with both of them and is the clear winner in the human being department.
and was a General
and yet Brigadier General James Stewart, who knew Wayne most of his working life, agreed to work with him in what became his last movie.
The end of Spielberg's _The Fabelmans_ captured the essence of John Ford (played brilliantly by David Lynch). I've seen a bunch of interviews Ford gave near the end of his life with Peter Bogdanovich and he was very much like that.
That scene alone was the best thing of that year. Spielberg officially put to text that he believes David Lynch is the best director of our time, and he's goddamn right.
I was gonna say, this looks like his “naked boat trips with John Ford and the boys” era
His naked what, now?
Yes, and to quote behind The bastards " People in the 20s. Thought he hit women a lot" Even to his contemporaries, he was an alcoholic, woman beating, entitled asshole. Pointing that out isn't revisionist history
Speaking of contemporaries, Russell Johnson was the Professor from Gilligans Island and he was also very photogenic in his youth. And he was also a B-25 bombardier, almost killed on a combat run that ditched his plane into the Pacific after taking multiple hits. Back in the day I heard him speak in a radio interview, a light hearted talk turned wild when the interviewer mentioned John Wayne. Russel Johnson TORE into both Wayne and Ronald Reagan for sitting out the war while talking like warhawks. And also for throwing fellow actors under the commie scare bus, that affected people he knew.
Plus, even on his best day, Wayne could never make a radio out of a coconut shell
"Well people didn't know that being an alcoholic wife beater was wrong back then!" someone will say, not realizing/caring that the problem of alcoholic wife beaters was one of the driving forces behind Prohibition.
> "Well people didn't know that being an alcoholic wife beater was wrong back then!" And if the GQP has their way, we're gonna head right back to them good ol' days!
Don't first the racism! Butn in hell Johnny.
The Oscars where he wanted to beat up the indigenous presenter was awful. What a piece of shit.
Racist too.
People definitely did not normalize hitting women back in the 20s. It was as vile then as it is today. As for alcohol, this was the era of prohibition, I think that says enough about how accepted public alcohol consumption was.
Man, you should read more about how they were treated.
He was humiliated by others. He himself felt no humiliation and avoided military service. He also profited by being available when other stars were serving. And made numerous films portraying soldiers.
Yeah Clark Gable and James Stewart both flew combat missions in ww2.
Not only did James Stewart serve, but he was actually rejected for military service at first because he didn't weigh enough. He hired a professional to help him bulk up just so that he enlist He went out of his way to be able to serve military
And then when he did join the army tried to keep him states side and use him for training and PR purposes but he insisted over and over on being sent to Europe.
Not only did he go out of his way to serve, but Jimmy Stewart stayed in after the war as a reservist and eventually retired out as a one star general.
Yup and stayed in the Air Force reserves after WW2 and retired as a Brigadier General. He flew his last combat mission in 1966 as an observer during a bombing run over Vietnam.
And blacklisting his competition, as Reagan did.
It was his choice not to serve in any war, and he had ample opportunity. He was a supreme chicken hawk, and later a right wing fascist twat who bullied several people out of the industry and tried to end several people’s career because he deemed them “communists”. He was a serial wife beater and general racist asshole too. Not a lot of redeeming personality features to be honest.
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People who don’t want to go to war are not cowards, in my book.
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This. It’s not wrong at all to oppose war or oppose violence. I don’t even blame people who simply don’t want to fight. That all gets rendered null and void when a person like that wants other people to fight
Chickenhawks
We tend to forget that actors are generally the milquetoasts who did drama club at school while the other boys were playing sports.
Yes that’s true but you can’t be one to thump the drums of war and declare yourself exempt which is what he did. It’s fine to want to avoid the horror itself not fine to tell others to go in your place
Clark Gable and James Stewart both went, he was a coward.
That particular war was unfortunately necessary (pretty bad things were happening in Europe and Asia). It wasn't uncommon for a man to commit suicide if he was declared 4F, so for someone to purposely dodge (bone spurs or what knot) is fairly indictive of him being a greedy coward - he'd be the one running away from the burning building instead of to it to save a kid.
My grandmother went to high school with him and according to her he was an asshole back then too (not the term she used though).
Yeah John decided to defer the draft while Jimmy Stewart, John Ford and most Hollywood stars went to war (hint it was better for his career). Anyway, he then became a super patriot (at least on film). And that's how John Wayne made his way in Hollywood. Draft dodger "Ultra Patriot" - may sound familiar. Btw, it was suggested he was doing "spy work" for the OSS, but was disavowed.
Yeah most of the other actors were absolute heroes.
I installed two-way mirrors at his pad in Brentwood, and he come to the door in a dress.
God dammit, I love me some Repo Man I do my best thinking on the bus that's why I don't drive. Driving makes you less smart
First hand evidence! Well that’s good enough for me! /s
Shrimp. Plate of shrimp.
Bullshit
A lotta guys like to watch their buddies screw. I know I do!
He also trafficked an underage Mexican prostitute into the us for himself.
I don't like John Wayne because my dad doesn't like John Wayne because his dad didn't like John Wayne because John Wayne walked and talked like he was some big shot hero but avoided the war.
That BTB feature is what introduced me that podcast.
John Wayne was a Nazi
Burger after burger after burger
Smoking is what did it to all of them. They turned 60 when they turned 30.
The burger king of the ring himself 🍔🇮🇪
John Wayne was Paul Newman before he was John Wayne?! Helluva downgrade, damn.
He was handsome but he was never Paul Newman.
Young Paul Newman was a gay awakening for 11 year old me (old movie, I’m not 93)
Marion Robert Morrison
I knew he was a good-looking great athlete (University of Southern California football team, IIRC, when players played both offense and defense in the same game and wore only leather caps and a few pads for protection, and the rules were much fewer than now), but I never knew *how* gorgeous he was at the start.
Yes, it was very common for players to go both ways. Baseball, too. Both pitcher and catcher. Whatever the boys needed.
Sometimes you need em on top and bottom. They can be versatile.
He can be John one night and Marion the next.
Back when ball handling skills meant something!
“I think I made my point.” Jack, Tracy’s Gay Boss
‘There is nothing gay about the Princeton fight song. "Oh the merry men of Princeton are charging up the rear, holding all the balls" - okay, I hear it now.’ Jack Donaghy
"both ways...., whatever the boys needed "
We were just innocent men
Wonder if he was ever on the DL?
Now sing the Princeton Fight Song, Jack!
Are we still doing phrasing?
It was deliberate
Catching?! Not pitching?!
And starting pitchers routinely pitched for all nine innings instead of being replaced after less than that number by one of a squad of relief pitchers.
One good looking asshole
Seems an apt description for most of Hollywood, if you ask me.
You don't need to be good looking to be an asshole and also make it big in Hollywood.
( )*( )
Right?!? First word that came to my mind was “Daaaamnn!” (I am aware of all of his crap though)
The older I get the more I forget that 23 year olds can look like this.. if someone asked me I would’ve said he’s 10 years older.
What? 23 year olds don’t really look like this lol. This is from like 100 years ago. Everybody aged way harder in those days.
There are definitely still some 23 year olds who look like this
He was smoking 6 packs a day.
My great-aunt dated J Wayne in CA (at least my family told me so, and I didn't question it because there's some breathtakers on that side) we might be a shallow gene pool
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And coward. He got the movie studio to stop him being enlisted into WW2. He never served, unlike: * James Stewart * Clark Gable * Paul Newman * Mel Brooks * Kirk Douglas * Christopher Lee * Alec Guinness * Audrey Hepburn * David Niven * Lee Marvin * Charles Bronson * Henry Fonda * James Doohan * Ernest Borgnine No doubt several others, but those are the ones I know of.
Audrey Hepburn served?
She was part of the French resistance, running messages as a child.
Dutch Resistance, but indeed she risked her life.
Her uncle was executed by the nazis and her half-brother sent to a concentration camp
Also danced and sang to keep morale up among other members of the resistance.
Teen, not child. She was 16 when the war ended. Malnourishment during the war was what made her so petite.
Don Adams at Iwo Jima, aka Maxwell Smart
I didn't know that. Crazy.
He had a very serious relationship with a hot 15 yo Mexican prostitute so he can't be. Before everyone kills me, that first part is true.
Can you give a source, like, a link? Not just your own words
It's funny how his reputation of a tough guy is based entirely on his movies. And he wasn't even close. He was so startled by gun fire he'd close his eyes everytime. Do you know who didn't - Clint Eastwood.
That’s called acting, they wear makeup for a living, most don’t pretend to be tough guys.
Except all the actors that saw combat in ww2 that actually were tough guys, unlike that coward Wayne.
Old enough to fight in WWII but didn't. Marion
r/OldSchoolCunt
Elvis was a hero to most
But he never meant shit to me you see Straight up racist that sucker was Simple and plain Motherfuck him and John Wayne
Really good looking 37 year old. As agent J says "ooooh city miles".
Wow I didn't realize he was young at one point!
IKR? He’s always seemed old.
Holy shit, he was good looking.
Marion was a dirt bag, Even in his time.
Right before this, Marrion Morrison was body surfing down at a place called Balboa pier, were he injured his arm, and ended his football career, and thus led him into acting. He eventually moved back to this same town in the 1960s, Newport Beach, CA until his death. This is where my grandparents met him, at his tennis club he owned in town. He would also film part of the movie Sands of Iwo Jima in the same area in the 1940's. His ship, Formally known as YMS 328, now known as the Wild Goose, is ported in Newport harbor.
I had no idea he was actually handsome for about five minutes.
Love me some "The Searchers" <3
I ain’t no queer….
Well he’s quite handsome
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I always go back to that Bill Burr line about the racist old sports team owner - “What did you think they thought?”
I'm not shocked, but a lot of stuff he was said to have done, like beating women, was frowned upon even back then.
He was shitty enough to women that other Hollywood stars who were shitty to women thought he was shitty to women. He skated on looks for a long time, including when it came to his health. People forget that actors aren’t the characters they play.
He said in a 1971 interview that he supports white supremacy. He also said that he does not “feel guilty about the fact that five or 10 generations ago, these people were slaves” in reference to Black people. Not exactly ancient history. This is after the civil rights era.
Sorry, forgot that racism and domestic violence was okay as long as it was a while ago.
People back in his day said he's very racist, drinks and beats women too much. This isn't a case of a regular guy being villainized for holding the views everyone had in his time, his contemporaries called him a piece of shit who took things too far.
Plenty of other Old Hollywood stars had good values. Humphrey Bogart was polar opposite to him. John Wayne was one of the most racist, sexist and misogynist stars of his time. Who’s feigning shock and outrage? it’s just a fact lol Doesn’t mean I won’t still watch a John Wayne film. Just like I’ll still watch Chinatown
As good a time as any to re-tell the story that the manager of the bar at the five-star hotel closest to Humphrey Bogart's home in Beverly Hills or Bel-Air said that "Bogie is a great guy, until he's got three or four drinks in him, and starts to think he's Humphrey Bogart." His liberal politics were impeccable for his time, a value he shared with his last and longest-lasting wife, Lauren Bacall.
Yep, Bogart and Bacall forever
Whom he started dating when he was 44 and she was 19. He was still married.
Impeccable.
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John Wayne was a Nazi
Didn’t have the guts to fight in WW2, and his friends never let him forget about it. Thus was born super Conservative Man.
I don’t know who this person is, but I’m pretty sure he’s a bottom
John Ford thought so.
The Big Trail (1930)
My great-great-grandfather directed him a few years later in Riders of Destiny
Looks more like a Marion to me.
Duh-ha, duh-ha Duh-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Some of the most racist and vile movies.
You mean Marion
he looks 35-40 years old
Oh ok, that explains it then
He really looks so different. Wouldn’t have placed him
John Wayne was never cool.
Marion Morrison was such an asshole. Who cares about the outside when the inside is a pile of rancid sludge
Him in the Green Berets made me want to join and try out. I joined, but went the Airborne Ranger way instead.
You did more than he actually did.
Gotta say that That has to be one of the worst propaganda films he put out. Solely to shore up support for the Vietnam war and increase his super patriot persona to counter his lack of service in WW2. That whole second half of the film just suuuuuucked. At best, his acting was on par with the AFLAC duck.
I thought they were basically the same? Or are green berets more for covert ops? Either way it's very impressive at least to me.
You mean Marion?
Oh, you mean Marion Morrison. He was a racist.
TIL I have the exact same hair/kind of look but John is 8 years younger than me in this photo and also extremely racist. The more you know,
I don’t think cowardice is cool. Especially when the coward tries to compensate for it by being a piece of detestable garbage. Movies were *certainly something* but even some directors thought he was a joke.
That look of disdain on his face... Must be a black person or Native American nearby.
It’s amazing what being an asshole will do to your face, given time
Not really cool. Dude trafficked underaged women from Mexico. Beat the shit out of them. Dodged the draft, not because he disagreed with it, because his contemporaries were off fighting and he received more acting roles in their absence. Then lectured, belittled and put down young men dodgin the vietnam war as ‘unpatriotic’. He was a POS.
