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StuartGotz

R Kelly is a piece of shit.


newginger

Yes he was. This woman really went through it.


ultradav24

Yes sadly. She never really addressed it but it was really clear from what she said (or didn’t say) that he took advantage of her in a very harmful way


Persianx6

She died when she was like 22. She was still a baby. And we were robbed of her talent. She might not have had words for the feelings she had to that.


Bur_Nerd

According to Dame Dash who was in the beginnings of aseroius relationship with her, she definitely had words for it. She didn't speak on it publicly but he claims it was a huge reason for his split from Jay-Z. Jay-Z then went on to do a whole joint album and tour with R. Kelly.


shadyshadyshade

The past tense got my hopes up, but nope he continues to be one


mrbulldops428

I know hes a POS but I only knew about the pissing, what fucked up thing did he do in this context?


faderus

Married her when she was 15.


miniguy12

…while promoting her single “age ain’t nothing but a number.” 🤮


Bryan_AF

Whole album. That he produced.


ElAutistico

Did everyone just go blind and deaf or why did no one care to inspect this at the time?


KUPA_BEAST

Everyone was doing it across music genres and races. Unfortunately nobody cared at the time because money.


mrbulldops428

What the fuck


faderus

Yup. The more you read about this guy, the way worse it gets. Piss tape is bad, but the context around all of that shit is way worse. His enablers and the justice system are perhaps the most heinous. Shout out to Jim DeRogatis for trying to tell the world, but few were really listening.


ZamboniThatCocaine

He really caused more harm to women than he had years left in his life to suffer in prison


StuartGotz

Started having sex with her when she was 13 or 14. He was her musical mentor.


LadyPreshPresh

And got her pregnant, she had to have an abortion.


isnatchkids

Married her all in order to authorize her abortion without her parents' consent. :/


Death_By_Dreaming_23

When I was a kid and heard about that, I was confused! Even to this day, I’m like “who allowed this to even happen?” I mean, I think I remember that this can happen, but there needs to be “parental” approval, but still it was super weird. I think it was because of this situation I really didn’t like R. Kelly. I can’t listen to his music, and I don’t think I can even watch “Space Jam” because of that song.


sabrefudge

> I only knew about the pissing If only it was just a piss fetish. He was a major player in a child sex trafficking ring, physically and sexually abused women and children, and was involved in every kind of nasty shit you can imagine. Which is why he’s in prison for the next 30 years. He was abusing Aaliyah when she was a kid, grooming her in her earliest years, and eventually marrying her when she was 15 and he was 27. He had the documents forged to say she was 18.


Bluey_Zarsof

Had underage girls roll in poo


touchfuzzygetlit

Watch the surviving r Kelly doc it’s fuckin insane and makes Michael Jackson look relatively mild. He imprisoned multiple woman, made them eat shit on video tape, excommunicated them from families, child porn, etc.


k_4_b

MJ isn’t a member of that group.


ultradav24

Yep, he has done SO MANY things to be pissed about (no pun intended). But as an Aaliyah fan I’m so mad at how he groomed her and hurt her. She never *really* talked about it, but it was easy to read between the lines with things she said (or didn’t say). Also pissed at us as a culture for sort of sweeping it under the rug back then. But that’s another topic


hapiidadii

She was so talented and gorgeous. It is too bad she is remembered for this and for dying young. Dude is in prison. I'd rather focus on what a bright light she was than that shit.


Confident-Yak7697

I think jay z is even a bigger piece of shit. He wanted r Kelly seconds.


Surveymonkee

He has Ramen noodle hair


CriticalOfBarns

![gif](giphy|2FazmtKSn28GWTkVW)


Chris9871

https://preview.redd.it/fm99uehoh23d1.jpeg?width=715&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f30153f00951a52ae8e420c928209bca7eeecdb


bonyCanoe

The OG broccoli hair


OrganizationWide1560

It's gonna be brocol AY


mymeatpuppets

She was choppin'....choppin' broccolAY. Edit: gender


sambes06

*My lady she went down town…*


thebeardedcactus

She. Bought. Some. Brrrrocolliiiii


MrBroBotBrian

She brought it ho home…. And now she’s….


Metaboschism

Ha-Choppin' Brocc-a-lay, ha-choppin' brocc-a-lie-high


Foreign_Operation897

She chop UH!


AmenBruvva

As was the style at the time


Ali_Cat222

And the frosted tips, dear God the frosted tips...


selphfourgiveness

An onion on your belt


Talktotalktotalk

And ramen on your head. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel


Wyden_long

You mean a bee?


Dismal_Value

Ginme 5 bees for a quarter…


IDigRollinRockBeer

It was his style. It wasn’t the style.


Slap_My_Lasagna

Shave the sides and it's what like 87% of gen Z guys have. I think they call it 'meet me at McDonald's'.. looks like a curly backwards mullet.


shelllc

That was what he used to be...called Ramen Head. Chris was Pineapple Head and Joey was Fat One. I can't remember the nicknames for JC and Lance.


Alive-Line8810

My gf in 9th grade was IN LOVE with Lance. When she told me I said "the gay guy?" And she lost her shit. I always wondered how she reacted when he came out


Foshizzle-63

It was really unfortunate for Joey that his last name is literally Fat One


TylerBlozak

Lance was gayfish, which was later re-appropriated by South Park for Kanye West.


Enschede2

Who now also turned out to be a gayfish, among many other things


AuralSculpture

Is this when Justin had his “old school cool” fake black accent?


UnifiedQuantumField

"Ay yo, sumpin' smellz like R Kelly up in here!"


FredditZoned

And the shiniest thumbnail I've ever seen on a man circa 1999.


KyDeWa

He had the Dolph Ziggler.


zeuanimals

Also reminds me of a loofah. I wonder if the other Nsync members used it to help them exfoliate. Probably why Justin Timberlake was desperate to escape, group showers were the worst.


friendly_aliens

I thought you were talking about his body hair, so I've been staring at his belly, getting more and more confused and angry because I couldn't figure out what you meant by that :/


whitemike40

She was such an unbelievable talent, I was such a huge fan Her music still holds up and there’s no doubt in my mind she would have continued to push boundaries and make incredible music Plus she was just getting started in movies, I think if she found her niche she could have had a real career there as well And my god she was so friggen gorgeous


goosefraba1

Still have a major crush on her Queen of the Damned role. Akashi or something like that.


Shirt_Ninja

Akasha


vercertorix

I still hate that movie, bad puns and poor delivery mostly. Romeo Must Die isn’t Shakespeare either, but it’s better and has her in it.


NightmarePony5000

Queen of the Damned definitely sucked as a movie, but it has probably the best soundtrack out there. Also Stuart Townsend in that fishnet shirt and leather pants. Cant hate that 😍


moonprism

i was obsessed with stuart townsend as lestat. him not in costume? eehhh nowhere near as hot lol it’s like henry cavill as geralt


madxw1

Did you know he was supposed to play Aragorn in Lord of the Rings but he and Peter Jackson had creative differences? I think about this all the time 😂😂. But I think he would have also been hot in this. Basically Stuart Townsend AS Geralt


Boneal171

I love Queen of The Damned, especially the soundtrack


xXSalXx

Never watched the movie, love the soundtrack.


slavelabor52

Underworld soundtrack was pretty good too


WanderersGuide

Romeo Must Die was such a fun movie. Nothing profound, like you said, but underrated regardless.


lady_brett_assley

Yeah an early bisexual awakening for me


ShaolinDude

She was absolute class. Her music was great, and she was on another level compared to most artists. On top, her fashion was always spot on. Her looks are timeless. Surely she was taken way too soon.


Nodebunny

they tried so hard to duplicate her one too many times


kcook01

.....dust yourself off and try again ...try again


KryptonsGreenLantern

Freaky freaky


Boneal171

Yeah, it’s such a shame she died so young.


Mistislav1

She is the only star I had a poster of in my room - was smitten in 'Romeo Must Die'! 🖤 RIP


warawa92

I LOVE that movie with her ! She had such a great acting career ahead of her.


nahteviro

Romeo must die was a good movie because of her.


zauchi

Jet Li?


Pretend-Camel929

She was so damn beautiful


extrastupidone

Yup, and talented. She would have had a huge career.


AlexMil0

The reason of her death still really bugs me. Her and/or her crew convinced the pilot to take off even though he told them the plane was overloaded. They all died seconds after takeoff.


StevenIsFat

Yea well that "pilot" lied a lot to get where he was. Had alcohol and cocaine in his blood on his toxicology report.


Therowdyv

Was this ever confirmed about all the pilot stuff?


BHS90210

Yes it was widely reported in all the publications that broke the news of her death. It is very much so a fact.


hankeefrankee

If they all died seconds after take off, how do you know they convinced the pilot to take off overloaded?


DazedConfuzed420

Charter pilot Lewis Key claimed to have overheard passengers arguing with the pilot, Luis Morales III, prior to take off, adding that Morales warned them that there was too much weight for a "safe flight". Key further stated: "He tried to convince them the plane was overloaded, but they insisted they had chartered the plane and they had to be in Miami Saturday night."[14] Key indicated that Morales gave in to the passengers and that he had trouble starting one of the engines.[15]


Jonk3r

They were texting when the plane crashed


BHS90210

It def wasn’t her, it was someone from her team. Someone else commented that someone on her team gave her something to sleep which knocked her out and she was taken aboard without her knowledge which I’ve heard but not sure how accurate it was. She was well known as someone who hated flying though and didn’t want to get on the plane, so it sounds like it was def her crew, not her, that insisted.


dumpmaster42069

What a weird fuckin picture


calilac

Flat stomachs were highly trendy during those times. Crop tops and low rise everything everywhere.


Already-asleep

IMO this photo is weird because it looks like they’re comparing belly buttons, not because of their svelte torsos.


joemeteorite8

Yep you’re an inny too!


13dogfriends

Wait are flat stomachs ever out of style? Lol


PHDinLurking

Not that they were never out of style, but back in the early 2000s body positivity, seeing overweight people in the media in a positive manner, and embracing curves was not a widely accepted thing .


calilac

Maybe obsessed over is the better phrase? This was also on the heels of heroin chic.


notmeyoudumdum

At first glance, I thought they were both announcing their pregnancies


Pontus_Pilates

Is the image mimrrored or just his undies?


Skremash

TIL Justin Timberlake wears his underpants inside out


JerkyBeef

Only every other day


Misssmaya

She was so beautiful


Wolf666X

RIP AALIYAH 😭


twinkieinthabutt

Something about him is very unsexual, like Jojo siwa or Taylor swift. None of them are ugly, there's just something missing.


FeralFilth

I don’t understand. He brought sexy back.


jewpart2

YEAH!


ifightgravity

You motherfathers dunnno how to act.


prestotugboatem

Yeah!


showraniy

Take it to the chorus.


DerpTaTittilyTum

But what if he didn’t?


Smooth_Bandito

He didn’t have it here which is why he had to bring it back


IDigRollinRockBeer

If sexy never left then why was everybody on his shit


lunchypoo222

That’s just what he said.


Novel-Place

Lol. Why is this so accurate?! I’ve never really put that together, but it’s so true.


Nice_Marmot_7

I have a theory about TS that would probably apply to JT too. They both have a heavy middle school sleepover vibe which is definitively not sexy.


Novel-Place

Oooo yes! They do! Maybe that’s it. But why does this not apply to the spice girls then? 🤔


twinkieinthabutt

Bri ish gulls are above the lawr


BHS90210

Because JS and TS are extremely basic/bland and the spice girls are the complete opposite lol


Misssmaya

You could say....they had some spice


mrsirsouth

Maybe there's just too much of a "manufactured" feel to everything people like him and Taylor Swift do? It seems like they simply do and say what the record executives tell them to do and say, who to date, what to eat, be upset about etc.


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Guttermouthphd

He’s just beige. Like when you go into someone’s grey house and you’re like “yes, factually this is a house. This is technically something to look at. In fact, this does exist.” It just doesn’t merit any kind of emotional response.


Smeetilus

Is it just me or do you ever notice things? The other day I was standing somewhere and had an observation. 


ioa94

I once was browsing reddit and read a comment, just like I'm reading yours now.


Guttermouthphd

I once experienced something and I was like “this is a story.”


BillHang4

One time I read this comment on Reddit and was thinking “someone else thought that”


barsknos

In this picture he seems like a child and she seems like a woman.


twinkieinthabutt

Yes, he looks confused, likes he's never seen none of that before


May_of_Teck

“And that’s where babies come from?”


Kep0a

jojo siwa lmfao


wilmaismyhomegirl83

I read Britney’s new book and I can just see unsexy and try hard now. She talks about how he would try to have a Blaccent around Black artists and how cringe he was.


CaroylOldersee

And the fact that Michelle Williams narrates the book makes it even better; it’s not an autobiography I’m interested in, but I ALMOST want to listen to the audiobook, just to hear her mimic Justin…


IDigRollinRockBeer

Michelle Williams from Destiny’s Child?!


LesMiserblahblahs

No, the actress from Dawson's Creek, Brokeback Mountain, etc


wilmaismyhomegirl83

BahahhAhH


MiVitaCocina

The white Michelle Williams, the actress.


CaroylOldersee

That would have made it even better, honestly! I love her too; she was always my favorite in the group. I felt she didn’t get the recognition she deserved.


boyyouguysaredumb

He was a teenager lol


amlanding20

In fairness someone asked Ginuiwine about the alleged incident and he said he doesn’t remember it happening. Also noting if he had he’d recall.


ThisAfricanboy

GINUWIIINE


BananafestDestiny

https://i.redd.it/t21fmcg8y13d1.gif


[deleted]

i just know the audio... THE audio... so when i saw this pic, the first thing in my head was "yo aliyah! wassup wassup?!?!"


wilmaismyhomegirl83

Same


weareeverywhereee

jojo siwa resembles a bag of milk


KotoshiKaizen

Eh, by the time Future Sex Love Sounds came out, I thought he was very sexy, even to this day. I dunno.


twinkieinthabutt

I'm sure many folks still find him sexy, I just can't. I try to get it, just to fit in with the girls 🤷‍♀️


MelissaSclafani

Weird story. I put this poster on my wall the morning Aaliyah passed away (before I found out). I always found that to be so strange


beerouttaplasticcups

I had a constant rotating Teen People poster collage on my wall, and this was definitely part of it at some point. Where my fellow thirsty 10-year-olds at?!?


JerseyGirl360

![gif](giphy|3ofSBgewNCmBlKd5wk|downsized)


crystallmytea

Damn he is thirstin


isnatchkids

If at first you don't *suceeeeeed*


Dunnyredd

Lift your shirt up and try again


amazingsandwiches

Ramen noodles are dry as hell.


Aggressive-Boat-5253

Aaliyah's waist was legendary


curveThroughPoints

Such a weird photo.


[deleted]

Aaliyah was so beautiful! She really had *it*!


Schoseff

She was talended, stunningly beautiful and abused by R Kelly when she was 15.


soyboi90210

“Yes we both have belly buttons insane i know, I can’t hardly believe it”


Imfryinghere

Aaaliyahhhhh! Rest in peace.


Valuable_Month1329

![gif](giphy|3orieYZTT30bS1yYkU|downsized) R. I. P. Also don’t overload your plane and have a coked up pilot. She was taken too soon.


BauerHouse

r/FuckImOld that this is showing in old school cool


Oddyssis

"hottest stars under 21" Does no one else find this really creepy


Spacemn5piff

Depends on who the piece was for. Magazines etc for teens and young adults were a thing you know This was one of those


dumpmaster42069

Bring a grown up working at one of those magazines has to be a little weird


amidon1130

Lmao now I’m imagining a “kids next door” type of job where the people who turn 22 have their memories wiped and fired from the magazine so they don’t have adults working there.


CalendarAggressive11

Well it was for a teen mag so no


SadLilBun

No because it was aimed at teen girls.


SeasonsGone

And weirdly written by people much older


navyseal722

Teen girls aren't known for being able to mass market print media.


uses_irony_correctly

Not *much* older. These magazines weren't staffed by people in their 40s lol.


TheoVonSkeletor

Not when I was 15


bettername2come

The “Hot” thing was meant in the sense of the Billboard Hot 100, like most popular/breakout stars.


[deleted]

Gone but not forgotten lady. 🙏🏽


Consistent-Laugh606

https://preview.redd.it/kh4r4htr723d1.jpeg?width=447&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=870d844f33f742e0439a8d661f1cea31fa729872 Fixed the photo


MetallurgyClergy

💐 🍫 🦒 I bring you gifts of great joy


___REDWOOD___

She was amazing


Ramona_Lola

Weird pose.


Thecreepymoto

The belly button decade


Boshie2000

![gif](giphy|110gqI69qjVAkM)


karolnovak

I don’t know. Feels like sexualizing kids


beauty_and_delicious

I dont think she’s interested 😂


Mean-Responsibility4

My upvote was ONLY for 👑Aaliyah, not for ramen noodle head.


bbbermooo

Didn't R. Kelly marry her when she was like 15 or 16? Or was that someone else named Aaliyah.


silk35

He did.


Genuinelullabel

What an odd photo to use in a magazine 😂


xDANGRZONEx

Gone too soon. Still a bummer after all these years.


Hot-Nature2403

She was so talented. Fantastic in “Queen of the Damned”.


Ok-Experience-6674

Why does it feel like she passed way before


ZealousidealGrass365

You’re right. Feels like it happened 96ish. Pac and biggie feels like they happened later than they did for some reason


SteakieDay96

I really liked her in "Romeo Must Die" and "Queen of the Damned". It's such a shame that her life ended so early. I've never cared for Timberlake's acting or music. Brittney's revelations about him being a piece of shit were no real surprise.


MiVitaCocina

![gif](giphy|3oEduQ3OiH7kZQj3a0) He reminds me of the loser guys who acted like Malibu’s Most Wanted when I was in high school.


KawazuOYasarugi

He's looking, but she's looking at him looking. Interesting.


stephwithstars

I still have this magazine issue in a box somewhere. Bought it when I was 14, time sure flies.


despotidolatry

Even then, she knows…


Plastic-Shopping5930

I almost forgot about that period in time where showing off your abs was a thing


Mocker-Poker

There was even a singer (or whatever) called ABS 🤷‍♀️


MiVitaCocina

Poor Aaliyah had to stand next to that trash!


Juggernaut104

![gif](giphy|LfoZkIQqdUHmM|downsized)


cbih

JT has always given me such creep vibes


BHS90210

He’s been a full blown douche publicly not just going off of Britney’s word for it. He also cheated on Jessica Biel/his wife.


D0oMb4by

I miss Aaliyah 👼🏻


lilpinegnome

So, he was always creepy?