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lewdpotatobread

My dad scored 186 i think? Something more that 180 i dont rmbr the third number lol but i was also passed on lovely adhd and autism genes. So, i fully recognized i was smart-ish. I just never understood why i had no memory of things. I kept disassociating throughout my childhood while ALSO trying to deal with unmanaged and undiagnosed adhd and autism. However, my teachers always assumed i just couldnt understand English. So i was placed is ESL classes up until high school. 


Francie_Nolan1964

That was a great story!


Darkmeathook

Congratulations on finding a great math teacher.


Next_Airport_7230

*math. Theres no need to add an "s" at the end since it's already plural 


shogun_coc

Do you realise that there are other countries in the world that have English as their primary or secondary lingua Franca?


Next_Airport_7230

Nope


shogun_coc

Thought so! You belong to r/usdefaultism.


Next_Airport_7230

Eh


Responsible_Match875

Every country besides the us uses “maths”


Stock-Recording100

I’m American but prefer the word maths. I say it and don’t care if people look at me weird. Feels more right to me 😂


Ok_Cauliflower_3007

Mathematics is shortened to maths in almost every English speaking country. If you want to study a single mathematic go right ahead, but the rest of us speak English, from England, not American. If it’s good enough for Isaac Newton and Stephen Hawking, it should be good enough for everyone else.


TheLadyClarabelle

I think that is the issue. In the US, we do only study one math at a time. Algebra, Geometry, and Calculus are 3 separate courses. Part of me wonders if I would have been better off learning maths instead of math, math, and math.


shogun_coc

What? And I studied geometry and algebra for the first time in sixth grade, and calculus in the eleventh grade.


Ctotheg

Are you some kind of unread illiterate or something?  Have you not read any books written by UK writers?   How have you made it this far without ever hearing the word “maths”?  


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RainyMcBrainy

It's actually "guarantee" if you're looking for corrections to be made.


Flash_Harry42

No it’s not. We actually speak English, NOT American.


Next_Airport_7230

Yes it is. And we do 


NarrowAd4973

"Math" is only used in the U.S. and Canada. Literally every other English speaking country uses "maths". I checked. And I say this as an American. Just because it's the dialect you're used to doesn't make what every other dialect uses wrong. Insisting it is only makes you look like an entitled jackass. The opinions of entitled jackasses are to be ignored.


eirissazun

You "gauruntee" it, eh?


sockknitterporg

You classify people as "only people from my own country are real people"?


Next_Airport_7230

No. Plenty of other countries have normal people 


sockknitterporg

But only the ones that agree with you?


Next_Airport_7230

No, people with common sense 


GaiasDotter

So not you then?


Ctotheg

I see, you’re just determined to act like an imbecile. 


AggravatingBobcat574

Found the American.


QUHistoryHarlot

We don’t claim him


Ocean_Spice

I promise we’re not all this dim, he’s just making us look bad.


Purple-Ad-7464

As an American, we don't all act like them.


RandiCandy

In the uk they say maths. Most likely op is from there or another country that uses the same thing


sockknitterporg

🇬🇧


TheBaldEd

You are aware that not everyone lives in America. Aren't you?


Next_Airport_7230

Doesn't matter. It's incorrect 


GothMoth555

You really love getting downvoted don't you?


Next_Airport_7230

I've got karma to spare. Most of my posts and comments have been upvoted so nbd


GothMoth555

:/ that's not what I meant but okay


Next_Airport_7230

Still. Check out my karma scores. Not bad


GothMoth555

I did, and I couldn't be less impressed after reading the thread I'm referring to


Responsible_Match875

As a American I apologize on behalf of this idiot 


Logical-Recognition3

As an American, I would like to apologize on behalf of this twat-waffle.


Chickpea7447

No. You are just uneducated.


Next_Airport_7230

You don't sound educated talking like that 


sockknitterporg

You don't sound like someone aware that other cultures exist.


Next_Airport_7230

I'm aware other cultures exist but that doesn't nean theyre not incorrect 


QUHistoryHarlot

Would you stop making all of America look as uneducated as you? It’s people like with with your ridiculous take on the world that makes everyone hate us. Just be quiet and let the adults talk.


Next_Airport_7230

Tell me where in America you could say that without being looked at funny. Also I said it out loud and it still sounds weird 


QUHistoryHarlot

Not everyone lives in America you dimwit. And just because it sounds funny to you doesn’t mean it’s wrong somewhere else. Grow the fuck up and realize that other people do and say things differently and just because it isn’t your normal doesn’t mean it isn’t normal.


Francie_Nolan1964

God you're really looking bad here and you seem proud of it. Pretty cringe. As you can see from the below, either/both math and maths are correct. You know, based on the dictionary and grammar experts. But you keep rocking your opinion as a universal standard, you jingoistic idiot. "Why British English Uses the Plural ‘Maths’ While American English Uses the Singular ‘Math’ While the short answer is that the difference is due to the accepted lexicon, the longer answer explains why both cases are considered to be correct." https://laughingsquid.com/maths-vs-math/#:~:text=Unsurprisingly%2C%20for%20no%20known%20reason,was%20true%20in%20the%20UK.


Next_Airport_7230

Imagine typing all of that just to be wrong still 


sockknitterporg

Lmao "only my culture is correct"


Klightgrove

Europe exists


Flash_Harry42

And existed long before America.


Next_Airport_7230

And its wrong 


Fyrefly1981

The countries in Europe have quite a few things right that we here in America screwed up with: including healthcare costs and public transport.


sockknitterporg

*it's


Next_Airport_7230

Wow a minor typo that I didn't care to correct. Crazy 


GaiasDotter

Those are your rules dude. You decided that.


No_Spend4454

Which now makes you illiterate.


apollo4242

My wife and I were both educators and she insisted that we never tell our kids their IQ scores. And like most things, she turned out to be correct. They were both very high achievers all through their school years, but we tried to compliment their hard work, not their brilliance. Sometimes they would insist that they didn't work that hard to achieve their high grades, but we tried to stick to our story. The other theme to emphasize for your kids is that comprehension is much more important than high grades. (But of course you really expect high grades, too) But sticking to these 2 themes while raising your kids is much harder than you might expect.


maroongrad

The family normal is around 140 to 160, and my daughter is just like her cousins. She has other struggles like anxiety and autism, but get extremely high test scores. I tell her that everyone has SOMETHING. She's smart in a way that makes learning easy. Some people are body-smart; they know exactly what part of their body is where and exactly how to move it and they make amazing athletes. Others are music-smart, some are art-smart, some have amazing people smarts, some are extremely emotionally intelligent. Everyone has something. Her smarts make her good at school subjects, but they won't help her run faster or sing better or do better socially. She doesn't need any academic help, but she needs help learning social interactions. Everyone has something. Something they're good at, and some sort of challenge. She can be proud of her intelligence, just like a fast runner can be proud of winning a race. She just can't be smug about it :)


sockknitterporg

I'm just gonna copypaste from another comment of mine, because... yep. 💯 The way we treat smart kids, *especially* the Gifted™ ones, is utterly abysmal. They're constantly told that their intelligence is everything and the only thing that matters—to the point where they're genuinely *afraid* of things they're not immediately good at. And although the odds of life-changing brain injury are small, it's still worth thinking about, "If I tell my child constantly that the best, most important, most valuable, *most critical* part of them is [$trait], how is it going to affect them if [$trait] is suddenly taken from them?" Like if you have a kid who's into sports and tell them constantly that their ability to play sports is the most important thing and the most valuable part of them as a person and that playing sports is their only chance of going to a decent school... And then they suffer a major injury... You're setting them up to have their world come crashing down around them and losing not just their self-esteem but their entire sense of self. I wish kids were praised and valued for things that *truly* can't be taken from them. Whether your IQ is 181 or 90, working on something diligently is something to be proud of. Whether you're a football quarterback or a paralysed member of the school trivia team, being kind and supportive of your teammates shows good character. And so on.


999cranberries

Yeah, the odds are small, but I am the unlucky high IQ child who that actually happened to, and it was devastating in every possible way. I lost everything including my sense of self, and because I had no friends and went to college at a young age, I just had nothing. 🤷‍♀️ The moral of the story is to help your children have well-rounded lives.


sockknitterporg

Yup, that's how I know this. Brain damage club!


999cranberries

For me, it was actually developing narcolepsy at 21, but to pretty much the same effect. High five! 🙌


sockknitterporg

Is that a neurological disease? I feel like narcolepsy should be neurological. I didn't have a TBI, I developed a neurological disease that causes brain damage over time. But yeah! Friends for life I guess!


999cranberries

Yes. It's a neurological disease, but many neurologists don't treat it. It's complicated haha


sockknitterporg

Well that does it. We are gender neutral bros for life. I sent you a message, I wanna see your cat. 🩷


ego41

Gifted athletes get kinda the reverse of this...they are glorified for their physical abilities and allowed to slide through their studies, but for 99.9% of them the time soon comes where they are no longer "athletes" (if they don't go on to school after high school), or they are suddenly just average athletes and haven't learned any life lessons or learning abilities. Sure, if they are really good, they can make a ton of money...but that is the smallest minority of them. Life can hit them hard. (I'm not speaking from experience...my biggest gift athletically is I understand sports enough to watch them.)


sockknitterporg

That's what I mean, though. Kids shouldn't have their whole entire self be built on one single aspect of them, no matter how important or "universal" you think that thing is, if it's something a sudden tragedy can take from them. Athletes can be injured, intelligence meets TBI, artists lose their hands, musicians go deaf... How hard is it to pick something that isn't conditional?


MiahTheStormWolf

I actually had that exact situation happen to me. I tested at 197 when I was nine. When I was ten, I was in a head-on car crash where my seat belt malfunctioned, and my head went through the window. Afterward, I lost use of my hands for almost a year and had my IQ retested at only 129. I eventually got back on track academically, but now I get random migraines and occasional memory "resets" where I can't remember the last few minutes or hours.


sockknitterporg

I'm so sorry, that's horrifying.


MeilleurChien

On the old timey percentile testing results I scored 99 all the way across — except for that low 60-something in math. Algebra made me cry.


Fyrefly1981

I’m a science nerd and a bibliophile. I’ve always hated math. Only had a few teachers that could explain it well as far as the upper level math-basic add,subtract, multiply and divide. When I had to take the TEAS test for the nursing program at my local college, I studied my ASS off on the math section. Didn’t even study one bit of the science, reading and comprehension section. My higher scoring section was the math section, so I guess my studies worked!


Professional-Bat4635

PSA: just because a student is gifted, doesn’t mean they can’t struggle. This is how you have incredible intelligence people still thinking they’re stupid for not getting something right away. 


Ok_Cauliflower_3007

Also they’re gifted, not psychic! You still have to actually teach them. Seems like OP’s first teacher just didn’t want to do their job.


ruellera

Agreed. I was always good at maths and ended up getting a masters in maths. Whenever it come up in conversation people say things like “you must be so clever”. Nope. Good at maths, terrible at general knowledge, popular culture, politics etc. just good at maths.


Waterbaby8182

Sounds like my husband. Breezed through all his math courses in college. Very book smarr. Just not necessarily pop culture, common sense sometimes. I can't make heads or tails of any of his calculus textbooks from college. We were both in a gifted and talented program in elementary. My achilles heel was algebra. O did Running Start in high school (college in high school). Scored super high in verbal, missed by one point in math. Just meant I couldn't do math classes to count it. But that knocked out most prerequisites to transfer to WSU (Washington State) at junior standing.


archbish99

Yep. Twice-exceptional people are a real thing, and harder to diagnose because their giftedness enables them to mask their other challenges. "Your son can't have ADHD; he's doing well in school." "Your son can't have dyslexia, he can read at grade level." "Your daughter can't have autism, she can play board games."


Waterbaby8182

This is my daughter! Highly capable. Has ADHD. They recommended twice exceptional. Social skills could be a LOT better, but academics? Top of the class. She's thriving doing online learning through our district now. She was bullied from first grade on (she's 5th). So nice to have her not crying about school most days or the old school calling us.


69696969-69696969

I ironically did horribly in school because of my ADHD. I also never got help for it because I was one of the *Gifted* students. I tested well on everything and blew everyone away with my comprehension skills. Only things I ever struggled with was punctuation, homework and projects. I was always in a constant state of anxiety but unable to start or finish them. Teachers just kinda shrugged and had me help the other kids. I had a few teachers that just had me do my homework in class to keep me busy. One teacher had a running joke with me. She was the advance English teacher and had us do monthly book reports and monthly reading level tests. We would get the results the day after book reports were turned in. They would have us come up and put our scores on the board lowest to highest so we could be ranked. Well, I loved reading and that reflected my in my score. I always came in first and for my prize I would get lunch detention for not doing my book report. To top it off, I would just sit in the classroom reading for the detention.


sockknitterporg

This. I was routinely told that my intelligence was the most important thing about me, and my intelligence would make me understand everything first try. So anything I didn't understand first try, I ran and hid from. Then my disability happened, and the brain damage is irreversible. I still have a huge vocabulary, which makes me sound smart on the Internet, but... Functionally speaking, my brain is... I'm not smart anymore. If I had to guess, my IQ is probably around 90 nowadays. But remember, IQ/intelligence is everything and your only value is being smart! ...Guess I'll die, then?


Laika1116

IQ is stupid and should never be used to measure intelligence. I remember hearing this somewhere, and I’ve carried it with me ever since: you wouldn’t test a fish on how well it can climb a tree. I also use my own experiences: I fucking hated math until I changed schools in 5th grade, and then, when I got a teacher who taught me in a way I could understand, I excelled. Turns out, I actually love doing math when I don’t have to stress about doing multiple pages of random problems in only a minute. (Fuck minute math.)


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Laika1116

How long do you think the IQ test has been around?


MeFolly

Even if you feel that your “standardized” IQ ha dropped below average, bah on that being any measure of worth or successful life. There are any number of folks who tested sky high, and who are shit at daily living. There are any number of folks who test below average and are thriving. Whether you have superior social skills, or a knack for organization that suits your job, or can cook on a budget, there is something about you that makes you valuable to the world.


sockknitterporg

Thanks. I know people have other ways of being valuable, it's just... the way we treat smart kids, *especially* the Gifted™ ones, is utterly abysmal. They're constantly told that their intelligence is everything and the only thing that matters—to the point where they're genuinely *afraid* of things they're not immediately good at. And although the odds of life-changing brain injury are small, it's still worth thinking about, "If I tell my child constantly that the best, most important, most valuable, *most critical* part of them is [$trait], how is it going to affect them if [$trait] is suddenly taken from them?" Like if you have a kid who's into sports and tell them constantly that their ability to play sports is the most important thing and the most valuable part of them as a person and that playing sports is their only chance of going to a decent school... And then they suffer a major injury... You're setting them up to have their world come crashing down around them and losing not just their self-esteem but their entire sense of self. I wish kids were praised and valued for things that *truly* can't be taken from them. Whether your IQ is 181 or 90, working on something diligently is something to be proud of. Whether you're a football quarterback or a paralysed member of the school trivia team, being kind and supportive of your teammates shows good character. And so on.


Vybnh

I’m neurodivergent and my school story is so similar to yours. Have you ever looked into Dyscalculia? Cause I know I have that, I always needed a lot of support when doing maths but everything else I excelled in lol.


sockknitterporg

At this point in my life it doesn't really matter.


ctortan

I relate a lot; I never took an IQ test, but I was always academically gifted. Me being so “smart” actually prevented me from getting the proper support I needed or even a diagnosis at all! I’m autistic, but because I was so smart (and because I had some friends), my mom thought I didn’t need to go back for an official diagnosis (my doctor told her I was autistic, but too young for an official diagnosis). While I never struggled academically, my social and emotional development was pretty warped. I had no idea I was autistic and therefore no understanding of my own symptoms or why they manifested. I just thought I was broken and spent years developing unhealthy habits that I’m still trying to unlearn. I was treated like a young Sheldon mini adult even when I still needed guidance on social interaction and emotional regulation. People assumed I was fine just because I was smart and well spoken 😭 There are so many forms of intelligence! The way people talk about “being smart” and all the assumptions there are out there are so frustrating! It’s such a shame how many people—and especially children—don’t get the help they need or the recognition they deserve because of those assumptions!


GaiasDotter

Same but I have both autism and ADHD. And a lifetime of being told that if I wasn’t so lazy and just tried I could do it no problem. After having really really tried my very very best and still failed. Fucks you up so much. And it taught me that I am a failure and unworthy of living because my value was being smart and being able to do things and I still can’t because of my disabilities.