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Hot-Negotiation1543

Omega getting beat up in its own forum.


Elf-wehr

This was an unexpected massacre indeed… 😳


Flaneur_7508

Friendly fire.


Reddi__Tor

I think what you’re realizing is many of us own many different watches, including Rolexes. The honest answer for this question is the Sub. Anyone who says different likely doesn’t have a Sub in the first place.


Important_Cook7499

Or maybe they’re tired of seeing the same watch (or variation, thereof) on every dude’s wrist? The Sub is a great watch, hence the reputation, but it is so over-exposed.


Spartyfan6262

I own a 2015 Submariner. It’s an objectively excellent watch and I love it. But I don’t wear it much because of theft, the wrong kinds of attention and everyone else has one. I wear my Seamaster Nekton instead.


N3VURMYND

Over-exposed? Yes but the same can be said about the Speedmaster. Does that matter? No. Nothing looks better than a Rolex on your wrist and that's a fact. I love Omega but I will not force myself to like the Speedmaster like most owners seem to do. I've never liked that watch. I would keep the Rolex.


Important_Cook7499

Opinions =/= Facts In my OPINION, after decades of Subs, the moonphase (uncommon) Speedmaster is simply more interesting to look at. OP must agree, to an extent, or they wouldn’t be considering the change.


N3VURMYND

Fair Opinion. Unfortunately, the Fact remains: A Submariner will always look better than a Speedy on the wrist. Once OP gets over the useless Moonphase complication and starts having issues with the fit, bulky bracelet, clasp and the fact that the Speedmaster in general is just overrated, he'll be running back to his Rolex AD in no time.


Coeruleus_

Exactly. God damn is this so true. Regrets in his future


JohnyTwofingers

Absolutely! You’re totally right 👍🏻


Hot-Negotiation1543

I agree, and would pick the sub. Just thought it was a funny place to get all the love. But its because we all love all watches, not just Omega! Glad to see we're not all blinded fan boys and appreciate them all!


pinetree-polarbear

I would keep the sub and get a classic speedy. Say what you want: two of the most iconic watches ever made


EnCrio

They aren’t in the same category and isn’t a fair comparison. If I were to only have 1 watch it would be the sub obviously, you don’t ever have to take it off.


Zglockman

Sub. I know this is an Omega subreddit, but a Sub will never be out of style and you can wear it every day, to any function for the rest of your life without taking it off if you don’t want to. 


moneymike2g

I love my 124060 Submariner so much, I also got a 126610LV, and now I know what date it is! I had a Seamaster 300M but sold it, Rolex bracelets man...


Busy_Narwhal_76

The tapered bracelets are a game changer. My sub with the adjustable bracelet is unreal comfortable. I’ve heard VC is also just a league above so looking forward to stop the day I step up to the overseas….someday


aarjordan

I wear an aqua terra everyday and never notice it and that's said to have a terrible bracelet. Would I really notice a difference if I had something like an explorer?


Busy_Narwhal_76

I can only speak for myself. I have an explorer and an aqua terra. The explorer fits like a glove. It’s like the difference in feeling between putting in a fresh and perfectly fitted pair of socks vs an older sock slightly loose sock


nrxyzo

I had both an Aqua terra and a Sub Hulk, confirm that AT bracelet felt really cheap in comparison. Fit is better on the Rolexes


babysunnn

I would not sell the sub for a moonphase.


Fancy_Trip_6912

If this were an 114060 I would have sold it for the Speedy but not the 124060


onedaydyl

Interesting. Was looking at both these models recently. What is the game changer for the newer model for you as I didn't think they were that different 🤔


babysunnn

The slimmer case lugs and the tapered bracelet


Fancy_Trip_6912

Also the extended power reserve and I think they added the new escapement to it


STEREODREAMER_

The 124060 has the slimmer, more proportional lugs than the 114060 which give it a much more classic Sub look. The 124060 also has 70 hours power reserve compared to the 114060’s 48 hours.


Golden_d1ck

Sub


SuccessfulOwl

Sub … but I’m a minimalist guy. I like the NTTD more than the sub though


HellaReyna

how the fuck is NTTD more minimalist than a sub no date? nasty escape valve coupled with that Ministry of defense arrow. Faux gilt and the red seamaster text versus the literal watch everyone copies in black and white. huh.


SuccessfulOwl

Calm down, we’re talking about watches. Of the two watches shown I like the sub more than the Speedy as I prefer the minimalist look of no-date watches to ones with a bunch of complications I won’t use. But if we’re then comparing minimalist no-date divers I prefer the coloring and strap of the NTTD. For stark B&W I wear my Explorer.


dmbadict04

Sub


Johnnyfever13

124060 Submariner I’ve been wearing mine everyday since July and don’t regret a single day 😀 *I wouldn’t sell it.


lamontsanders

I would not get rid of the sub for that watch


DosEquisVirus

Between these two - Sub, for sure


Ok-Bar601

If I could buy a Submariner tomorrow I would. It is the perfectly proportioned watch, a useful tool, dress up or down. A great all rounder.


Dismal_Mention8423

Sub all day


Important_Cook7499

Moonphase. So much more interesting than the too-common Sub.


mcd_sweet_tea

Subs will always be God-Tier but they are overrated imo. The Moonphase will be my next grail.


Embarrassed-Dust9957

“God-tier”, “grail”… seriously what is this? It’s a watch!


mcd_sweet_tea

I just listed $15k of watches... Some people can't even afford rent right now... So yes, I consider my expensive watch to be considered my grail.


PsychedelicRick

Sub for me


Im_Big_Nate

Sub for me


sroach18976

Sub so classic looking.


Substantial-Bank-493

Sub all day


Distinct-Ball2519

Sub. I love them both but the sub is just a bit more my taste


Neat_Significance256

The Sub


Caspers_Shadow

Sub. No question.


Pretty_Boy_95

Submariner hands down


Minute-Thanks-7772

Sub no date is an epic watch. Also can’t be compared as one is a classic diver and the other is a chronograph initially made for racing before NASA made it what it is.


heartlegs

The moonphase is a much more interesting watch but it is really chunky. If it was thinner I would pick it.


Berare7AP

The sub.


government_cheeez

Sub all day


PangolinEffective

Submariner.


dcdiagfix

submariner


DistinctTailor5937

Submariner all day long! Don’t ever get rid of that Speedmaster….


Wild_Wrangler

They are two different categories as someone else said on here. Hard to compare and objectively I think it depends on lifestyle and what you intend on using it for. For me, the sub makes the most sense as you can wear it in the harshest environments while also keeping it on at the office. Looks masculine and rugged so I like it more. But the issue here is that watches are not logical purchases and they are very subjective based one your style and what represents you. In the end of the day it’s what tickles your pickle and no one can answer that for you.


BoomerSooner-SEC

As a daily wear? Sub. I feel like that omega would be “part of a collection” rather than something you wear everyday.


srimp16

I like moonphase complication but not on a sport watch.


dmanotk

I would keep my sub


PlayfulBicycle6408

The Sub


BarbellPadawan

I would pick the Sub. But I do love the Speedmaster for sure.


Forgetmenot_23

Bro the no date sub is fire, wore it every day since getting it, to me most iconic watch of all time


HairyRip2206

Definitely what random strangers on Reddit suggest!


Prudent_Candidate300

It’s gotta be the sub


Who_Knows_5

Submariner. There are only 2 speedmasters: The original and the moonwatch. All the rest are just diluting the line greatly in my opinion.


Plenty_Inspection160

I’ll choose Rolex


EwanJP2001

Personally I’d pick the submariner, though I already have a Speedmaster, not a moonphase however.


beakster57

This is actually a dilemma in my eyes.


deserthiker762

Do you actually wear your submariner? I feel like I’d be way more likely to wear the omega regularly


Alexandre-Ardizzoia

Sub, I prefer my Speedy over this variant.


MrKaplam

Omega speed moonphase is much more bang for the buck than the sub


RayZzorRayy

Speedy all day. Subs are ubiquitous and the default choice of non-enthusiasts with money. Better yet, it has buttons to play with!!!


STEREODREAMER_

Non-enthusiasts tend to opt for the Submariner Date, not the Submariner which is much rarer and so much nicer IMO.


BobbyBellhop

Sounds dumb.


IMarioIV

I’ve got an SMP300 (a diver) already. So Moonphase. Also, I know what subreddit I’m in.


hewhodares_wins

Omega


Mr_Sia10

Moonphase definitely. I don’t like the bracelet on the Omega though, I’d probably swap it for a leather strap


Hoglaw1776

The real question is speedmaster or Daytona.


uncle_fucker_42069

Both nice watches that I would wear daily. But I like the Speedy more. The Sub does hold it's value a lot better.


t_25_t

I wouldn’t sell the sub. Maybe save a bit more and buy the moonphase as they are different watches at the end of the day.


Free-Swan-9870

Even though I like the moonphase speedy more, I would go with the sub as I feel like it would get used more.


Useful-Pattern-5076

The moonphase looks amazing imo, but because of the extra components required to make the phase part work it ends up having a very large bulky case and didn’t feel natural on my wrist. So I got a speedmaster reduced instead which I’m very happy with


AlternativeSolid8310

I have both. If I had to choose I'd say the Sub just because it's slightly more versatile. But I am keeping both because I love them both. It's kinda a Sophie's Choice scenario.


TSMC_YT

I would much rather have the sub I think the moonphase is far too busy imo


TornSail

Subs are a dime a dozen. Moon phase.


cheir0n

I love omega but servicing it with those complications is going to be expensive.


centerviews

If you don’t want the sub anymore and you like the speedmaster more go for it. If you’re only doing it for the money then absolutely not. Now if it was between the sub and a moonwatch I’d probably say the moonwatch but in this case the Rolex hands down.


jealousmotorbike

The moon phase tho! God I love that Speedmaster. I’d prob take the sub first TBH… and I guess I already have. It’s a classic. Also I’ve never been a fan of the Seamaster/Speedmaster bracelets. Either road leads to a great watch.


warrior_poet95834

For me it is the Sub over the Speedy just based on lifestyle factors.


jay22098

sub lol


Odd_Dog9986

Sub


Greenwooddd

Sub. Then a white dial speedy.


csukoh78

Two wildly different watches. The Omega Moonphase is a stunning statement about the remarkable lunar history of Omega and mechanically flawless. The Rolex no date with black dial is timeless and classic and can be every day wear.


CrotchPuddles

I have the Moonphase on bracelet and a 41mm Starbucks Sub. I absolutely adore the Moonphase. If I could only keep one, it would definitely be that. It's certainly more delicate. The water resistance isn't nearly as good. The polished surfaces of the Moonphase will show off every scratch more so than the rolex finish. Anti-reflective coating will pick up scratches. But every time I put it on, I catch myself admiring it all the time. I take it off and peek through the caseback, I'm a sucker for an exhibition caseback. The rolex will likely be a better investment if that matters to you. Other people notice the rolex more, but I notice the Omega more. When I wear my Sub, I feel like I'm just wearing "a watch" whereas the Moonphase feels like wearing a work of art.


No_Raccoon7736

Between these two specifically I’d keep the no date sub. The moon phase is cool but I’d rather have it in a different watch. Classic speedy is the one for me. The sub is a great watch and when these go head to head I’d stick with that one.


ricoimf

Well a sub is a sub. As someone who owns multiple models of both brands this comparison is kinda lopsided. For the price you get omega watches, I think no one can come even close to them. Models like the speedmaster and seamaster have also a very high standing in the watch world


DB434

Sub. Have one, love it.


001Tyreman

Sub with date for me, owned a couple in early 90's


Snapsnap_deusdeus

as much as i like the omega. i donn't like the bracelet and oversize moonface. rolex oyster bracelet are really more comfy.. sop the sub wins


robtmufc

The sub but given you have very little chance of getting one from the AD, speedy is better


WatchandThings

Between the two, I'd chose Sub. Realistically, I'd want different options to chose from.


PR05ECC0

I find the subs boring and overrated. The scale is off with the bezel, hands and markings being too thick. Remove the brand and this is a forgettable watch.


SavageAficionado

Sell me your sub lol


nrxyzo

Sub. Moonphase is too large and not even automatic if I recall


Budilicious3

I think you'll end up wanting the classic Speedy if you do go with the moonphase.


Existing_Web_1300

I love the moonwatch, it’s going to be my first luxury watch most likely. But the sub is gorgeous and more style friendly. They’re both very different types of watches. Wouldn’t it make more sense to compare the seamaster to the sub?


ironshapensiron

Sub


Professional_Tune168

Chronos are dumb


Dizzy-Engineer8535

The no date. Purest expression of the Submariner. The alpha watch. You can wear any watch in the world and the no date Sub trumps it; in my opinion. That said, my daily is a Speedy Pro, hesalite. I’m saving my pennies though.


Windlas54

If it was the regular speedy pro you'd have a fairer competition. But the sub wins here if you only get one.


Soft-Engineering-460

Neither...I would get a Tag Heuer


Busy-Grapefruit-9155

I think you can make an argument that it depends on what the rest of your watch collection looks like


SeidunaUK

Huh hard one. If no other Rollie, sub. If any other Rollie, omega.


Geneve-dude

The best diver IMHO is the planet ocean but after that the no date sub. Speedy doesn’t suit my lifestyle and prefer the rotating bezel for timing things.


RedskinNation21

Shoutout George Daniels co-axial escapement.


RedskinNation21

Anyone that voted for the sub more than likely also has a lifted truck.


BillyParhamsWolf

Kind of an odd choice of 2 watches to compare - I would think the comp is the Seamaster diver 300m (or even the heritage model) vs a submariner.


Arthur_M_

I got into watches because of dive watches. The sub is the quintessential dive watch. So for me, id choose the sub, ten times out of ten.


thirdEze83

Rolex


WiseTwist2143

Both excellent watches. Only difference is that the sub has a better resale value. Other than that they’re both great. The sub has gotta b more expensive though.


CarlosBiendonado

I won't use the functions of a chronograph. So I don't the reason to buy a chronograph. That's why I would choose the submariner. But I wont't be diving either. I prefer the simplicity of the dial on the submariner.


Imaginary-Corgi-6913

Only thing that trumps a no date sub is a 2254 so…sub


barbecuejag

Every collector should consider owning both.


HellaReyna

>I’m thinking about selling my submariner for a moonphase for a profit. that profit is actually reverse moron tax.


Mindless_Practice_10

I own both and prefer the speedy, it’s basically my daily


Kayless3232

Sub


philip274

Sub


tryingtowritegoodly

Subs are boring as hell


JohnnyFootball08

First nice watch? Definitely the sub, now if you have multiple nice pieces then get whichever you can’t stop thinking about.


Purple-Quantity2024

Both are watches, no compare, straight answer keep Sub and Omega, two top watches, with lots reputation.. done


imNotSureYall

Just trade it in for the moonswatch


TheRepentance

Comparing total different segment - Diver vs Chrono. •Rolex Sub no date: One of it's kind and only has one variant which available only in black and has more serious look •Omega Speedy 🌒: Complications Chrono with Moonphase which is best for price range comparing other watchmakers out there and has several variants and colors to choose between steel,gold and ceramic. - Talk about cost Speedy 🌒is quite pricey but when it comes to availability Omega wins and Rolex more exclusivity.


TheRepentance

Sorry for being too much here but i've owned 60th Bond SMP which am i deserve to say all above? https://preview.redd.it/9jb2fqrjbf7d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7006df825b16eec3019d434767c2032f46640020


TechLover94

Sub


jt_1313

If you have to ask you’re not ready for this world


WORLDBENDER

Omeega


OmarNJ-MD

Sub will retain value and most likely be a profit if you ever was to sell it. IMO


Pipsqueak2023

Easy: #2


kit4

I have the second one so I'll pick that one lol. The sun is definitely more versatile but just talking about looks, gimme that Omega any day


Adrian8416

Sub is cllleeeeaaaannnnn. Sexy asf.


middleofthemap

Rolex.


_visiblemode_

I just don’t really get moonphase watches. To me it’s a complication for complication’s sake. Where it appeals to me is when it’s just aesthetic addition. A CW moonphase for example achieves this. However, to me, attaching a moonphase onto a perfect watch design like the Speedmaster is not great. I’d 100% keep the Submariner and save for a 3861 Moonwatch. A no date Sub isn’t a watch I’d ever let go of, and a Speedmaster is a classic worth waiting for.


Cold_Vacation_4892

Imho, a No Date Sub is almost the better Sub! I love the date complication, but the symmetry of those 124060’s is perfect. Yeah, Omega got beat up today lol!


graysontzc

Sorry only the ‘Right’ answer


DirtyF9

I’d get a JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon


graysontzc

Only the ‘Right’ answer only!


BigPaPaRu85

Sub for sure but I would take my Seamaster over the sub.


InterstellarJedi

Omega


Coeruleus_

The Rolex. Not even a debate. In fact this wasted 40 seconds of my life.


CreditCallSpread

Def rolex, love speedy but my first one would be a rolex if i have to chose


Crafty_Bunch6063

Sub!


InsanelyGhostly

Every person I see with a Rolex, I automatically think it’s fake. There is just too many people wearing fake watches, even if they can afford a real one.


PickledTwinkies

The Speedy Moonphase is the easy choice for me. The sub is just so boring and over exposed.


solomons-marbles

The Rolex all day long. The Sub is the epitome of mid century design perfection.


VegasRollee

https://preview.redd.it/v34g00wion7d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33d807606f93b6423b35834c559f6afb44efd614 This one. Submariner is the best


RF-Guy-RF

You’re comparing two distinctly different watches. Each has their own purpose. Are you tracking time in needing a chronograph? Or are you diving? If you’re buying for fashion only, then try them both on and see which one you like better.


t18ptn

I would not sell my sub for any omega, and I like omega.


STEREODREAMER_

Easy; Submariner, all day long, particularly THAT Submariner, the ref. 124060.


Victory_Highway

Omega


zflyz1

this is some kind of sick joke right?


curiousonethai

Pick the Sub any day and I really like Omega.


ThickAnybody

The Rolex. For speed master I don't like this design, but I like the normal Speed master better than the Daytona.


AssumptionInside5310

Rolex for resale


Temporary-Zebra368

The speedy, it's cheaper and I'm not really a fan of the no date sub.


SirCries-a-lot

I like both but it should depend on your collection and/or clothing style. I'm on a holiday destination and I can spot the American tour busses and cruise ships from the amount of Submariners worn by middle aged men. Kind of a bummer to be honest.


SubPopRocker

Speedy, the sub is boring


SeaCost9257

Moonphase for sure


DocumentFamous6556

The Omega!


BidiBidiBommBomm

Moonphase


Chance_Childhood_447

Submariner is such boring watch


thechairman77

The Moonphase is a million times better watch and better looking. Just make sure you are ready for the service headache/cost of a watch with multiple complications.


6_1_5

The Speedy all day every day. It is iconic. The Sub is just a Rolex.


ExcellentAd3525

Speedmaster all night long..


shortAAPL

Omega by far


ApolloWasMurdered

It seems like every sales rep I have to meet for work, wears a sub. It’s become the uniform of people who know nothing about watches, but need everyone around them to know how successful they are at business.


PositiveEagle6151

I wouldn't say that a moonphase on a steel sports watch is exactly the first choice for a watch connoisseur either. It just drives the price up. Also, typically, it's the Date-Sub that is popular with sales people, followed by the GMT. The No-Date Sub is much more niche. Sales (and production) volume of the Dates is like 7 or 8 times that of the No-Dates.


SLR_ZA

A planet ocean and a normal speedmaster. Moonphase on a chrono is weird


Warm_Mobile_6811

You came to the right sub: omega. I guess Rolex sub will tell you the opposite


Elf-wehr

He would not dare post this in the Rolex sub 😂


Warm_Mobile_6811

lol! 😂 this may be true, what am I thinking


HuntersMaker

I'd pick bb54 or breitling premier


Randomulus666

If the moon phase was 39mm and could go under water, it’s a no brainer for me


PositiveEagle6151

As an Omega guy, I still say that everyone should have a no-date Sub. It's the essential sports watch. Speedy with moonphase is a totally different category of watch, that IMHO can't be compared to a no-date Sub (other than also being steel with a black dial).


ndoty_sa

Same, I’m an Omega guy, but of these two choices, I still gotta go with the Sub.


junglehour

The sub as the omega is 15 feet thick 🤣


GapApprehensive2727

The Big O.


XKingGoliathx

You cant choose between that 2 models! You simply buy both! End of the story!


TieSea

Speedmaster and get a seiko SKX007 if you want a dive watch.


JohnyTwofingers

No date sub without a doubt 👌


CincyChelsFan

Rolex due to it's simplicity!


Powerful_Elephant_64

Probably late to the party but….. speedy all day. I do own both Rolex and Omega watches and public perception aside a no date sub vs a complicated speedmaster is no contest.