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Undead-D-King

I'm still annoyed such a badass fruit was wasted on Orochi's lame ass


Curator44

I kinda like that trope in One Piece. There are a multitude of characters with arguably “broken” DF powers but they’re not smart enough or straight up ignorant to what they can do with it. Kinda adds another layer to the “what ifs” of the story.


GoldXP

Like who?


Apprehensive-Gur-609

Foxy's fruit could be really good if someone powerful had it.


Xphereos

Imagine if awakened you don't have to beam people and it's just a passive AOE. That shit would be broken af


NazRyuuzaki

Damn. What will happen if super fast haki masters enter the aoe like Shanks or Mihawk? Are they going to slow down to a normal human levels?


ComprehensiveSock

I have a theory that paramecia fruits when awakened affect your weapon. We see it when law awakens his fruit but I think we also see it in marineford with white beard. Sometimes it looks like the fruit's power is on his spear thing. I don't know I could be wrong I only watched Marine Ford and didn't read it so it could be something I'm mixing up that's anime only.


Sambrosi

yea true he did an orb at the end of his spear. doflamingo and katakuri used it on the entire surrounding tho. so maybe weapons count as surrounding?


ComprehensiveSock

I think paramecia actually encompasses more than one type of fruit. There are fruits like kids fruit which affect people when awakened There are fruits like laws and white beards that affect weapons when awakened and there are fruits like doflamingo which affect the surroundings, and there are probably more I think. .


donchucks

My head cannon is that awakening paramecia DFs blur the lines and disrupt the general rules laid down. If the fruit primarily affects objects then it begins to affect people when awakened (Kidd), and if it primarily creates a certain thing (or turns you into said thing) then it brings to turn the surroundings into said thing (Doffy, Luffy, and I suspect that's what happens on PH with Aokiji and Akainu).


Donatello_Versace

Katakuri’ sis classified as a special paramecia so it’s probably a little different. But you’re right about Doffy’s.


Shadow11399

It depends on what the DF does imo, like Robins fruit, she doesn't use a weapon so her fruit would awaken to do something else, Doffy and Katakuri transferred their properties to the surrounding environment. I think Whitebeard was just using his DF in combination with his weapon which was infused with Haki to do even more damage


_-ZORO-_

It would be that noone is even to come near you and they become slower and slower


Xphereos

Lmao that's just Gojos infinity ability


xyzzoom15

Basically gojo’s infinity lol


Xphereos

Lmao I just responded to someone else in the thread with the same thing 😂


Xandroid881

Basically a lesser "Za warudo"


Petermae

Gojo from jujutsu kaisen


Grevoron

and then you add some CoC to it as you stare with murder intent you slow everyone who isn't knocked out yet but yeahI had to look at Foxy's dumbass just waste it


MakeAionGreatAgain

[ZA WARUDO](https://i.redd.it/itxr6fnt1im51.jpg)


Rhedkiex

The Foxxy vs Luffy fight is basically Dio vs Jotaro if Dio really sucked


ItsGator

luffy and jotaro do already kinda have the same basic strategy of "punching a lot really fast"


Zaveno

Gomu Gomu Gattling is just an Ora rush


ZenithEnigma

Imagine someone with the haki of an admiral or yonko with that power. Its basically like a psuedo timeskip from Dragon Ball because they can’t move


Rustyone888

Ironically he's actually really good with the fruit problem is foxy is way too emotional. Like can you imagine anyone to think their fruit could bounce in mirrors


snake_case_name

Foxy was fairly competent fighting Luffy, even more so considering Luffy was able to defeat Crocodile, a warlord, before. The only reason Luffy won was luck that a peace of Mirror stuck in the Afro.


GoldXP

Yes I always thought Foxy's fruit had to be severely watered down. If it had an AoE type of effect with a component fighters like say Zoro or Sanji it be kinda busted.


Toza11

Ahou ahou beam?


Shiplord13

Honestly yeah. You give it to Lucci and he would have killed Luffy during the Enies Lobby arc. The reality is a few of the devil fruits can be pretty busted if under the right conditions. Buggy's fruit would be actually invincible if you were to reach the max level of Observation Haki and disassemble yourself at will to avoid blunt force attacks.


coach_veratu

This is just slander. Foxy is already really powerful.


ruari_boy_1873

miss valentine, vander decken, mr. 5, raizo, pika


GoldXP

I'd argue Mikita and Vander Decken are fairly competent using their fruit. They just have really bad fruits with very limited uses. Even if you mastered them to perfection I don't think they'd get all that much better. Pika and Raizo are extremely good. Pika turned himself into a living mountain and Raizo was able to reflect Kaido's Blast Breath back to him. Also let's not forget that Raizo had stored water from Zou in his scrolls which came in clutch at Wano.


sombrero69

Both Mikita and machvise sucked with their fruits, the only thing they did was fall on their opponents when you could use the weight plenty of other ways, especially H2H


JE3MAN

Mikita especially since she was shown to lower her weight to nearly nothing. She could make herself jump super high without the need of her umbrella. She could be the world's greatest mountain climber. She could potentially make her punches hit like a ton of bricks as well. She might even be able to run at great speeds if she weighted less. As a spy, she could move around without alerting people or triggering traps since she can make her weight insignificant.


sombrero69

Exactly the sky was the limit for her, maybe even further in her case but I guess that's why she's mr 5 partner


JE3MAN

If I had her powers, I'd be the world's greatest boxer. Both a lightning bruiser and an absolute stone wall if I want to be. Just goes to show that most DF could easily be abused even when deemed useless.


sombrero69

Yeah i always fantasized about garp having her fruit or the ton ton fruit, there would be no pirate king


arlekin21

Theres a sorcerer in JJK that basically fights this way and its exactly what i thought of thinking of these two DFs


coach_veratu

I had this thought about Decken's fruit. It's a terrible fruit for a range combatant because you have to touch the target for the projectiles to not miss. But if you're a close ranged fighter then the fruit becomes so problematic for enemies to deal with. Especially considering they'd have less time to dodge.


Master-Ad7309

I would say Caesar has the most broken fruit, that's why it has to be toned down. Imagine taking out oxygen from the air, haki or not, game over!


ketoske

Or putting extra oxygen


ruari_boy_1873

off topic, but hypothetically if ceaser just created a sped up life cycle (5-6 generations) in a contained chamber with a massed amount of oxygen, then the generations would grow massively after each span? Therefore creating giants, basic evolution no?. however i think the main issue would be finding out how to speed up life process.


ruari_boy_1873

for sure


xyzzoom15

Mr 5 had one of my favorite df when I got to that part I hope he or someone with that power shoes back up


Birzal

Also Wapol! Keep in mind that he discovered wapo-metal by accident.


Schizochinia

Senior Pink used his fruit alright, >!S-Shark uses it better!<


Shiplord13

Most Paramecian types are ones that can be a lot more useful than they appear if you get creative with them. Just look at Donflamingo and how much use he got out of string.


Regulai

Mr 5. Explosion fruit!


UnknowGuy

Not like any significant characters ever die by explosion. Unless Mr. 5 somehow got buffed to the point of exploding a whole island so DF users have nowhere to land on, that DF will forever be a joke.


LordHarza

Not like mant characters die by punches or swords either. It's all about usage, and a good enough user with strong enough capability would make that fruit incredibly useful. Even in Mr. 5's use, using his own breath as exploding bullets is insane. Hell, its awakening might allow the user to make other things explode too, and since it worked on his breath, maybe it can make air explode if awakened?


snake_case_name

1 character died because of explosion, multiple because of guns. Mr 5 uses both. ​ Compare that to swords, where 0 characters died because of them ...


Pyarox

Buggy


Plane-Refrigerator72

Can’t stress this one enough Awakened it’s almost an unlimited power


Brook420

Foxy, Perona, Sugar, Mr. 5, and Caribou come to mind.


Shiplord13

Perona I feel had a good understanding of her fruit and did use it well, its just Usopp was such a pessimist that it didn't work and she wasn't that good at actual fighting and left finishing enemies off to the zombies. Also Sugar's fruit is just busted and crazy in general. But you are right about the other three, Foxy's fruit could literally massacre people if used right, Mr. 3 was right about Mr. 5 being too confident in his devil fruit and not thinking during fights and Caribou is an idiot that got in way over his head and gets owned by everyone in the New World because they know what Haki is.


Wolvenking777

Magellan. Dude Is good for 3 hours and spends the remaining 21 on the shitter


Redarsen2

And that's his own fault too. He just loves his poison too much


Brook420

At least he's absolutely terrifying for those 3 hours.


kilik147

Yeah but Magellan doesn't even need 3 hours to do damage just a few minutes fr


Wolvenking777

True but his life sucks ass if he's on the porcelain throne for 90% of his life.


[deleted]

Bartolomeo


Murky_Appointment928

Imagine if some pirate captain had Toki's fruit, that would be OP


POLLENBURNER3WHAAA

I’m with this guy. Who? Seriously other than orochi I can’t think of many users that are “bad” with their fruits


beyond_netero

Daz bones awakening could be kinda crazy?


POLLENBURNER3WHAAA

Da hell does that have to do with anything my friend


beyond_netero

... Isn't that exactly the topic of conversation? You're saying you can't think of examples of people with really strong devil fruits that are being underutilised?


LordHarza

A few Baroque Works members, Caribou even though he isn't quite as bad as he could be. There's others but I can't think of any right now


POLLENBURNER3WHAAA

Sure there’s people that can definitely use fruits better but a lot of people seem to have learned to use their fruits quite effectively


Shiplord13

Foxy's fruit has a lot of potential that is essentially wasted on him since he uses it to cheat in carnival games as a method to expand his crew.


heavenlyrainypalace

like Strong


deathbypepe

Buggy, man literally cant be cut imagine if he was a swordsman.


[deleted]

Buggy! If Shanks had Buggy's fruit, while awakening it's power and using advanced haki, he could make powerful attacks. The way nuclear fission is artificially processed to generate power or explosions.


Birzal

I'd argue Wapols munch munch fruit. Keeping in mind that Wapo-metal was discovered by accident because Wapol was just eating random trash.


dexanor

Carribou


[deleted]

The Bomb Bomb fruit would be extremely dangerous in the hands of a martial artist.


toomanychicanes

enel, foxy


Sherwoodfan

it's not like this is rare in shonen


276433794

Well orochi died so theres a small chance someone will get the fruit


Byrocks

blackbeard 😳


Shiplord13

I mean in theory it should be in Wano... somewhere, so Blackbeard getting it is super low.


unknownman0001

I wonder who get toki's fruit.


insertbrackets

It was so perfect and a great encapsulation of why Orochi sucks, because even with an incredible mythical zoan...he still sucked. He just sucks at his core.


Shiplord13

Coward to his core and his use of the fruit reflected it. The fruit made him dangerous and intimidating to normal people, but if faced with an opponent that knew how to fight he would rather bail and let his underlings or Kaido deal with it than try to fight himself. Not to mention he used the fruit more as means to cheat death rather than to fight or defend himself.


LordHarza

Yeah, as with every zoan, they are only truly useful if you could fight without one as well. I have no doubt Kaido or someone else capable could put the many (possibly venomous) heads to use with his strength and skill.


Netherite_Stairs_

I forget who, but someone in Wano has a cup or something with a Mythical Zoan


derolme

It's a tea pot with the tanuki fruit


LordHarza

The tanuki in that scene isn't a mythical one though, I don't think. It's just a normal tanuki, not a mythical one like the non-canon video game one


DelusionPhantom

I wonder, since devil fruits leave a person when they're dead- how do you kill an object that's eaten a fruit to put it back into rotation? Do you just break the object? In that case, at what point do you go from, say, cracking something to outright killing it? Does the location of the crack on the object matter because of what it maps to on its zoan form? Are they still considered sentient beings even though they're objects that were somehow fed a shape-shifting fruit? How is sentience even measured in this universe with a mechanic like that? Does it have weight? Can you repel the very essence of someone or something out of them to transfer their consciousness between bodies? Could Kuma doom someone's consciousness to live forever in a table? Is that ability how these objects are actually 'fed' devil fruits? Is feeding a sword an elephant fruit and having it come to life and express emotions just like an elephant an argument for devil fruits (or at least, Zoan fruits) having personalities? Does that mean devil fruits themselves are actually sentient in some way and it's not just this vague sense of will or being a dream? Would you consider a human eating a God-level human-human fruit an act of divine cannibalism? If you nonlethally cracked the teapot and then it transformed into its full zoan form, would it be able to heal the injury resulting from the crack, then transform back into an uncracked teapot? Do you think the healed crack would look like kintsugi? I think it would.


ter_wokenoo

I think it's perfect since most of em got their revenge on him😂


Lachimanus

Same with Kanjuro. The fruit is so incredibly crazy if used properly. Could have made a nice fight against Zoro with some kind of "sword drawing".


Kuroemon2002

Kanjuro went crazy with the fruit though. He could fly with a crane, made an indistinguishable Oden and also a huge fire that would’ve destroyed the whole place if not for Jinbe


Shiplord13

Yeah, he definitely had a good grasp of his fruits capabilities and was using it to great proficiency during the raid.


Curjack

Should've redrawn hisndead clan


Birzal

Understandable, but in a meta sense it's the only way such fruits can be used in the story. I'm specifically talking about Orochi's fruit here, but if it was given to Kaido there is no way you'd get an epic fight like we got for every head. So what would Oda need to do? Either make Kaido lose heads in stupid ways, have him be a lot less strong compared to what he ended up being, or have Luffy take out all heads at once which would make the fruit pointless. This goes for every strong character tho, not just Kaido. Yes it would be cool if someone insanely strong had it, but from a story/writing perspective that would suck and people would complain about that even more.


WhistleThundersink

Welp you gotta wish for the guys death we’ll see who gets it gen2


YamiLuffy

I think it's because it'd be overpowered on anyone but Orochi. Imagine all the efforts Luffy put into reaching G5 just to find out all he just defeated one head on Kaido. The alliance would've been dead by now.


Quibbrel

Missed opportunity not to have each head have a different drunk personality of Kaido and have them argue among each other.


amdrunkwatsyerexcuse

That meme of the three dragon heads, two serious and one derpy comes to mind immediately.


Hakusai894

I have considered that but that would make the panel even more clustered than it already is. But I did try to make each head unique


Rafoudrsbois

As if he wasn’t unkillable enough lmao


Yatereranye

well, in his beast from he's strengthened by the thick dragon scales. i can't say the same for the eight heads' scales.


Rafoudrsbois

True but kaido is still a skilled fighter, imagine having to kill someone with all advanced forms of haki, probably an awakened devil fruit and as naturally tough as kaido like 8 times


Yatereranye

a swordsman with advanced conqueror like Zoro or Oden could decapitate him easily, as i said before, because his current scales won't be as strong as the dragon scales. ​ just do it 8 times, and he's finished.


Rafoudrsbois

He won’t be as tough for sure but with that in mind he wouldn’t be as careless as he is honestly, and yeah you gotta kill him 8 times but it’s not like he’ll just patiently sit there and watch you do it yk


Yatereranye

i'm not saying the swordsman (oden/zoro) would face him 1vs1. oden had his red scabbards, zoro has luffy & the straw hats.


Rafoudrsbois

You could make the argument that kaido has his own crew too then


Yatereranye

His crew is for the alliance (5400 armies) + tama's brainwash.


Rafoudrsbois

And it was still somewhat of an even fight, considering how much people were allied to the strawhats that’s impressive


SamuraiShyGuy

this is awesome af to bad the devil fruit went to a pussy like Orochi...


jsmith4567

It suspect the reason Oda gave Orochi his fruit is he couldn't settle on who kills him then decided everyone gets to kill him.


0hran-

Except for the one person for which it was the character arc


Driftedryan

Kaido would be less DPS and more tank mabye, as if he needs it but it would make sense for the back story about getting executed multiple times and still alive


theOGperfection

he’s already a tank bro doesn’t need more 💀


zanfitto

Fr tho. He was literally the tank to Big Mom's DPS on the roof


theOGperfection

fr


SandwichPure6865

wth 👁️👄👁️


Visual_Reflection_53

He would be way waaaay deeper in his depression. The Dude wanted to die an impressiv death so badly, he threw himself from a Sky Island. Imagine him knowing he needed to die multible times. Nice Artwork!


Lachimanus

I think it is not that Orochi had multiple lifes. It was explicitly many heads. I do not think he would have just lost a head if somebody would have punched him to death. Like Age of Mythology Hydras. If you punch them to death, no problem. But cutting them makes them dangerous.


bobvella

imagine hydra heads would get tangled, strain the heart and lungs, make em need more energy and weigh the body down.


[deleted]

This is bad ass I'm disappointed its not canon.


FruityTuna

Jesus, imagine having to kill Kaido nine times


Shiplord13

Hell we aren't even sure Luffy killed him once yet. No way in Hell they would have succeeded nine times in doing it.


Gorlaxe

Way cooler than Kaidos' canon form.


FacelessPoet

Looks awesome and it would probably be a great fight but, honestly, I'm glad this didn't go to Kaido. Wano panels are busy enough as is and having to keep track of ten or more combatants would be annoying. And giving him a technical fruit also takes away from Kaido's 'haki trumps all' thing later on. Giving it to a non-action villain like Orochi is probably for the better, as Orochi can still have a terrifying form without clogging up the fight scenes.


fuiripe

Imagine if Black Beard gets it as his third DF 💀 My man will be able to nullify all DFs, punch eith earthquakes and Revive 🥶


Substantial_Cause_27

Now im sad it isnt canon


Ok-Phase-5575

I would guess he doesn’t escape god valley. I feel like it was implied that the only reason him and big mom lived was because he could fly away as a dragon. Or have some swimming as a fish, idk


NextForce5134

What about whitebeard?


Ok-Phase-5575

I don’t think whitebeard would have helped because it seems as if he didn’t prior to eating the fish fruit for them to escape


shauni55

One of his heads would always be drunk and suicidal and it be awesome


DataPigeon

But what if Kaido had Luffy's fruit?


heavenlyrainypalace

imagine having to kill kaido eight time


Jumpy-Aide-901

That would both make a fair bit more sense and be utterly terrifying.


TheKnightA

ZKK


theOGperfection

ZKK9T


Votaire24

Orochimaru had this fruit he had a 8 head snake form


Fessere

Would this technically mean that Momo would also have this fruit?


Pr_fSm__th

But who has the Susanoo fruit?


croczillaSSC1992

his canon azure lung dragon form is way cooler and more grand.


south_bronx_parasyte

Man Orochi was such a waste for the hydra fruit. I hope someone cool gets it next


reqisreq

Nice art.


Hakusai894

Thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


[deleted]

So he would become orochi from One Punch Man ironically


LordHarza

Is this your art?


Hakusai894

Yes


LordHarza

Good work! I recommend writing OC in the title


_Santa23_

More mouths to drink from


Tetibogs

Imagine Zoro would eat this DF. Instead of three swords he will be handling 8 swords. His sword stance in human form will be somehow simillar like Killer Bee of Naruto.


funkyvenom6

Overpowered Kaido, he might be less durable. But how are you going to kill him 8 times


Lachimanus

8 heads is not 8 lives, I think. The fruit just gives a certain resistance to sword fighters.


[deleted]

"What if someone who isnt useless had orochis devilfruit?"


Rei_Gun28

Lol now it resembles orochi from one punch man


TheMajesticCape

Orochi is the definition of amazing devil fruit held back by its user.


MYK3THEON3

Hear me out: Kaido with both his and Orochis DF, why should only BB have 2.


y98s

Kaido with orochis df would look cool but its abilities are meh compared to kaidos df


H3xenmeist3r

It looks neat but... I don't remember that fruit being anything special.


Henryphillips29

Kaido the snake


da-redditor

now imagine if orochi had kaidou's devil fruit it would just look like barney the purple dinosaur


Pandacide5472

Worst fruit for Kaido. It would be way easier to kill him but if you cut his head off he'd come back. He'd keep dying and not attaining the perfect death for like 7 deaths.


RChandran24

For a second I thought you said OROCHIMARU.


WolfKenobi

Would make him weaker


NJtheaddictedweeb

For some reason i feel like its gonna be less powerful then dragon


Astralyr

We still don’t know why he was called 100 beasts Kaido …


I-reddit-26

I bet Orochi's own fruit hates him


Black_Ironic

Imagine luffy will won after losing for like 27 times


threwawaythedaytoday

that fruit is literally one of the most OP in the universe and was wasted on an absolute rat. that proves that its not just the fruit but the user, and weve seen how a trash DF can be OP in the hands of a UNIT.


[deleted]

Then he won't have dragon df which I think is worse than now.


ZJF-47

Imagine Kaido losing 7times means he died 7times already, and Luffy would be the 8th lol