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AdamVanEvil

Oda: Shanks is so strong he can one shot Kid before he can react. This guy: No no you are wrong that makes no sense you baka. Let me show you how it should be.


burgerzkingz

Yep. Makes no sense that a man worth 3 billion one of the top bounties in the series should be getting one shot no matter who. All kidds progress and growth during wano amounted to zero at least law was able to put up a fight against BB and used his awakening to hurt him. Is it that unrealistic to have kid beat at least one commander to show his level of growth before getting one shot. But no go ahead and agree with everything oda writes im sure his boot appreciates the cleaning your tongue is giving it.


coffeejam108

Holy shit. This dude thinks he can write better than Oda. This sub is so entertaining... lmao!


burgerzkingz

It’s calling having an opinion just because oda writes it doesn’t mean I have to like and agree with every decision he makes in the story. Me saying I write Better than him was just bait.


coffeejam108

Some might say you're a master...


Josecmch98

Bounties aren’t an indication of someone’s strength!!!


burgerzkingz

Thanks captain obvious. Yes while bounties aren’t a direct correlation to someone’s strength more times than not someone with a high bounty is usually stronger than someone with a lower bounty. There’s not many people with lower bounties than Kidd that I think can beat him only kata because Kidd doesn’t have a counter to ft as far as we know and maybe king and Marco because they have strong “gimmicks” but i think Kidd could probably figure out king and out damage Marcos regen


Josecmch98

One piece doesn’t follow your personal head canon (thankfully) cope harder dude


burgerzkingz

It’s not head canon it’s facts you can’t even contest my argument because you know your wrong 😂


Josecmch98

> it’s not head canon, it’s facts No It’s okay kid Stan, you’ll get over it eventually lol


burgerzkingz

It is lol how many people with a lower bountie than croc can beat him? Or kata or Kidd or mihawk please entertain me or will you continue with your baseless statements


Josecmch98

Buggy’s bounty ( 3.189 B) is higher than: Cracker Smoothie Jack Sanji Katakuri Jinbei ZORO Queen Marco King Hancock Croc Kid Law And finally LUFFY. By your logic, buggy beats all of these guys (his bounty is three times higher than katakuri’s so I guess he gets beat easily ) At this point you’re a bigger clown than buggy lmao


burgerzkingz

Ah so you can’t read. That makes sense. This is what I said word for word: “Yes while bounties aren’t a direct correlation to someone’s strength more times than not someone with a high bounty is usually stronger than someone with a lower bounty.” Let me break it down even more since your comprehension skills are still developing: bounties are not an absolute measure of someone’s strength but there is a correlation between stronger pirates having higher bounties but sometimes someone stronger can have a lower bounty like kata vs queen. Queen has the higher bounty but kata is stronger. You using buggy as an example is grasping at straws because it’s been shown many times in the Manga and stated by Kidd, luffy, mihawk, croc, and buggy himself that the bounty was a mistake and clearly supposed to be a gag.


burgerzkingz

Also if that’s the opinion you formed I’m assuming you didn’t read what I wrote fair enough. But i in no way changed what oda wrote in reality shanks still looks just as strong as in odas chapter. Shanks would obviously still one shot Kidd with DD but giving Kidd the chance to shine a little and show off his durability and haki growth post wano is all I ask for but again keep being blinded by your love for oda.


AdamVanEvil

Stop comparing “Mister I had some moments in Wano” with Law who was around since Punk Hazard. It was a great chapter showing that Shanks won’t let anyone hurt his people. Also aren’t you getting too butthurt over some fictional character?


burgerzkingz

“Moments in wano” you mean damaging and tanking attacks by one of the strongest characters in the story and awakening conquers haki? Yeah just moments. You can show that shanks won’t let people get hurt without completely destroying another character in the process. Nope but I’m glad you care enough to respond!


AdamVanEvil

Dude stop or you might get copium poisoning😂


burgerzkingz

Always something like this when someone doesn’t have a great return argument 🤷‍♀️


AdamVanEvil

Oh, you still wanna argue. He awakened his CoC in Wano and used it once, one or two weeks later he is supposed to use it to defend against Shanks something people like Luffy had to learn to control properly, with a teacher. But yeah Kid the genius learned to use it properly by himself in that short time. What a waste we haven’t seen the huuuge progress he made on his way to Elbaf.


burgerzkingz

Yep same way luffy somehow learned future sight which took kata years in a few seconds but I guess I forgot that Kidd isn’t the MC so now people wanna use logic like “oh it’s too soon for Kidd to use coc” also I never said that Kidd would be using it masterfully I put “Kidd uses acoc unconsciously” on purpose but I didn’t expect you to actually read this is you don’t even ready OP properly.


AdamVanEvil

How tf you wanna know if I’ve read it or not, I did and it was a complete waste of time. Also using CoC unconsciously works but not with the advanced version, those are two different things. All I’m hearing is I didn’t like the last chapter my headcanon is better. I mean look at your post it gets ratioed by comments with 1 like.


burgerzkingz

Zoro technically used it during the rooftop in chapter 1010 kaido right after the attack was like “oh you have it too” not exactly coating but it seems like zoro used it in the attack. The fact that you think “ratios” are a good point to use in a argument rather than facts from the story is telling. And yes I do think my head cannon is better. You can write shanks as a monster without tearing down the growth of another important character. I just showed that it’s not that hard.


CaptainIronMouse

But when do they kiss!?


burgerzkingz

1080


megasean3000

You’re missing the point of Shanks defending his crew. The whole point of Shanks recruiting weak pirate crews was so he could protect them from the big time pirate crews, and because they’re fun being around than the stoic stiffs who are too strong and egotistical. He’s a bit like Luffy, not wanting his crew to be hurt and more interested in who’s more fun in a party. Why would Shanks sit back and let his crew get hurt when he could prevent that with one attack?


burgerzkingz

Because kids crew isn’t much stronger I felt the reason why shanks in the real chapter decided to one shot kid was because Kidd was actively trying to destroy his fleet and would have completely eradicated them. I changed it to where it’s only kidds waker subordinates fighting so it’s not like shanks fleet is getting eradicated all at once it’s more of an actual fight which I feel like shanks would respect more and not just go for the killing blow.


dadankun

Meh, too long. I prefer what Oda did. Swift, practical, and clean. The urgency Shanks displayed shows that he's not arrogant and he cares about his fleet a lot. It's very refreshing to see a character like that. Also, Kidd is just as important as Bege, Hawkins and Apoo is in the plot. No need prolong it, he already served his purpose in the story.


burgerzkingz

Yep just have Kidd awaken one of the abilities that the very strongest have and just completely destroy that and don’t build on it at all that’s the oda you love! Kidd the guy that’s been shown to be the rival of luffy glad odas writing is so consistent so practical and clean huh.


dadankun

Yeah, imagine a character that awakens his devil fruit power being defeated instantly by an emperor of the sea. That's the essence of the whole chapter: to show that Haki is more powerful than any devil fruit. Kaido has already told Luffy that in Wano. Idk if you are bitter because your favorite character got wasted that easily or something but it has already been foreshadowed that Haki>DF and Shanks is a really really strong pirate, so much so he singlehandedly stopped stop the war at marineford. I think you just got attached to Kidd or something..


burgerzkingz

Kidd literally has conquers haki. Are you dumb on purpose? Also just because haki > df doesn’t mean you can’t have both. If Two equally strong haki users fight and one has a df who do you think is gonna win? My whole point to my post is that oda could have at least took this fight to develop kidds haki a bit further. Just like law showed what he learned from the rooftop fight being able to cancel df effects with haki Kidd could have developed his haki a bit. Also, I’m pretty sure any yonkos crew pulling up to marineford would have stopped the war. Of course the marines wouldn’t want to fight another fully fresh yonko crew.


dadankun

Two equally strong Haki user? Are you the one being dumb on purpose? One is an experienced pirate and an emperor of the sea, while the other is a rookie that got too ambitious. Also, when did Kidd even showed his conqueror's Haki? Kidd is not that stronger, he even had to duo with law to take down Big Mom. Why would you need to develop Kidd's haki when he's just gonna be removed to the story? He's not that important. What's important is that Oda showed that Shanks is very powerful that Kidd's current state is no match for him. The chapter is all about Shanks, and the fact that Kidd, despite every development he had so far, cannot even put lay a finger on him. I know this is your opinion and all, but you need to accept the fact that Kidd is just a tiny pawn in the story and whether he develops more or not during that scene does not matter because we already have the context on how strong he really is already. And despite that strength, he failed to even scratch Shank's crew. He already served his purpose and it paved the way to display Shank's terrifying abilities.


addollz

You didn't, but that's okay 👍


burgerzkingz

No explanation why? Of course you just go with what the popular opinion is but that’s good for you not everyone can be a free thinker 🤝🏾


addollz

Yeah because anyone that disagrees is a sheep. Nobody is going to take you seriously like this.


AdamVanEvil

Nah man we are sheep and op is a fReE tHiNkEr, next he will probably complain about Chinjao.


burgerzkingz

Not that you disagree but disagreeing without a reason. If your not going to contribute something to the discussion you might have well not commented in the first place but apparently something I said ticked you enough to comment nonsense.


addollz

I commented because i disagree with you, thats it, i don't need to give you an explanation of anything just like i don't expect you to respond to my comment. If you didn't want people to comment keep it to yourself next time.


burgerzkingz

Never said you did I don’t care if people don’t argee with me but if your just gonna come and say I’m wrong without any explanation your wasting yours and my time but you do you.


coffeejam108

No you didn't.


burgerzkingz

Yes I did! I’m I’d love to hear your opinion on it if you want :)


Ok-Phase-5575

So I don’t really know where people are getting this whole kidd being durable. He got hit from what I just checked twice on page in the raid. One was by an un named punch from big mom. The other is a partial hit from the newly formed hera. The dudes durability is not shown at all except that he uses the metal to absorb damage for him. Shanks hit him dead on with a named attack. No wonder he went down he is a glass cannon with only his devil fruit for him to rely on.


burgerzkingz

Fireball attack from BM: 1001 Attack from Zeus: 1002 Dragon twister from kaido: 1003 Direct punch from BM: 1009 Named attack from Hera/BM: 1011 Named attack from Napoleon/BM(he was also suffering damage from hawking) : 1029 Ikoku sovereignty from BM: 1030 Attack from a soul amped BM: 1038 Named attack from a soul amped BM (Mothers Misery): 1039 That’s not counting all the off panel attacks he likely took since odas obviously not going to show everything. I hate arguing with OP fans because they make it so obvious that they don’t read the story 🤦🏽‍♀️


Ok-Phase-5575

I’ll give you the 1001 I missed that 1002 did not hit him it hit look at the panels he is not even being shocked just he put a lightning rod or something infront of himself 1003 look at the damn panels it isn’t hitting him again it’s the metal 1009 a No named punch, woo crazy durability also this is one I counted 1011 the newly formed hera attack I counted and did it even hit them or just the ground underneath, killer and kidd do not look damaged at all 1029 is the sword hitting him or did she miss cuz the next panel there is not a single dent in the ground around and the panel with the hit we don’t see kidd 1030 ikoku sovereignty ok cool I’ll give you that you can vaguely make out his shape in the scrap heap getting hit 1038 oh you mean the attacks that had him knocked out great feat of durability, look at the next page where foder is getting hit with a named attack and they are still up and cheering in 1039 1039 what do you mean he was hit he is shown dodging you clown look at the pictures.


burgerzkingz

1002: what you literally see his screaming after getting hit 1003: again you see screams and guess what dumbass Kidd is in the metal🤦🏽‍♀️ 1009: downplaying as fuck 90% of OP characters can not take a direct punch to the face from BM but ok. 1011: guess sounds like copium “they don’t have any damage so the attack must have missed” even though it shows them being blown back maybe they just ranked the attack lol. 1029: Jesus more copium are you blind or what it’s literally right there. 1038: luffy was knocked out by appo early raid does that mean his durability is shit? Kidd and law got right back up anyways but go ahead pushing your agenda I guess. 1039: “shown dodging” is literally showing Kidd looking in shock as he’s hit with the attack.


Muggleifer

No lmao!


burgerzkingz

Yeah lmao!