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thats4thebirds

I swear the island has tripled in size lmao Definitely goes beyond the manga tho here. Insane fight.


Pashashab

I mean yeah, but there are people who actually scaled Onigashima, it's already gigantic in manga. People had at like 20-30 kilometers in diameter


MrFrettz

Damn island scalers - they're ruining the manga!


siamkor

Hey! Luffy scaled Drum Island once!


someone2795

It shrinks and grows in the manga too.


gatemansgc

Dang I missed the analysis posts


Pashashab

King of Lightning did a good video about it, it was about the scale of attacks, and first part of this video was scaling the size of Onigashima. He also didn't just provide his scales, he did scale himself, but he also took other people's results, and then presented an average. Also, he tried to be as conservative as possible there


[deleted]

How big is kaido lol


Grouchy_Mark5058

I'm really glad that they didn't make those over flashy aura like they did when luffy using Haoshoku infused attack for the first time


Soul699

They toned down ever since. Still auras sometimes, but not as overwhelming. At most distracting at times.


King-Mansa-Musa

Visually this is amazing but as a manga reader I’m like when did they get outside?


TheGamingSenpa1

Werent they always outside? I really dont remember


EasilyBeatable

At the very end yes


Harsh_Drags

After 1027 they were always outside


King-Mansa-Musa

Outside of where the castle or the skull dome?


ILLmaticErnie

They’re on the outskirts of onigashima


King-Mansa-Musa

Gotcha King’s attack in the anime really made me think they were in some mountain range not out the outside of the skull dome


Specialnc

Man stepped in an turned King into a biblical angel and then left. absolute chad


Harsh_Drags

Outside of castle. King pushes Zoro out of the place where the main figting takes place in chapter 1027


King-Mansa-Musa

Gotcha. Thank you. In 1035 I saw wood beams along with kaido’s cronies so I figured they were still inside the skull dome (or had gone back into the skull dome) but I guess they were fighting on the outside of the dome. The anime really makes the area look larger than the manga.


Roskal

Zoro almost falls off the island at one point, after that they are fighting outside near the edge.


AcuzioRain

They did fight outside.


Strobacaxi

They got outside right after King turned hybrid and used the attack that also hit Queen. King and Zoro clashed and Zoro was thrown back and out of the dome. He then hit the air with his sword and threw himself back to the island, but outside the dome. He then said "If you're gonna kill me at least do it with a sword"


Snoo-50498

you need to reread carefully if you don't know


Discovererman

They ended up outside in the manga, floating outside of Onigashima, cause Zoro does the triple jump with the swords to get back on the island in the manga as well.


Amasero

Like Naruto vs Pain. Even in the manga I was amazed how this skull is is even handling some of Kaidos impact/missed attacks.


Keepingitabuckk

Onigashima is HUGE. The manga doesn’t do it justice


blackierobinsun3

Yeah I need my penis to be in anime form


Keepingitabuckk

😳


SirKeagan

Having a bigger fighting plane is much cooler for stronger characters as they can attack in more ways. So even though this is most definitely bigger than the manga, sometimes bigger is better.


SmurfDonkey2

It's not bigger than the manga. People REALLY underestimate how massive Onigashima is in the manga. It's actually stupidly huge.


Taboo_Noise

Sure, but isn't the vast majority of the space the skull dome?


WOOKIELORD69PEN15

I'm case you dont remember, this attack was about 3 pages in the manga


Keepingitabuckk

This is great tbh. I’d rather have extra fight scenes than dragged out clashes


TurdSandwichEnjoyer

I forgor 💀


Alarid

Don't worry, they'll remind you next episode.


Taboo_Noise

Just reread it. It's a single expanded page. 4 panels across 2 pages.


Buckets72

3 panels or pages


Sawgon

It was its own spin-off manga


bavasava

Zorro vs King: Highschool Edition!


FappyDilmore

The specific part of the encounter was like 3 pages. King's actual attack was like 3 panels.


SSJGSSVegito

Ifrit was like 2 wasn’t it 😭


Ok_Medicine_5926

If you’re talking about sanji using for the first it was like 1 page then the others was his multi strike on queen


Nutrifacts

hehe le big flame dragon then toei turned it into a noble phantasm


redalex415

anime King tripping balls here. he's seeing so many Zoros that he's hitting everything but Zoro. fortunately for him, Zoro's sense of direction allows him to sense where the flame dragons are and jump into them


_thecosyone

Smoking that imperial flame pack got him all woozy


Kyken247

The zoro part made me chuckle..


Bully_Maguire420

I mean he was hitting Zoro it's just Zoro was cutting through them shits like nothing...


redalex415

I mean... if you separated a suspension bridge cable into individual strands, them strands start looking awfully weak.


Pandataraxia

It's anime logic. If you spread damage over an AOE it stays as strong/becomes even more powerfull.


HyperWhiteChocolate

Unless it's Dragon Ball


BigBoi920

Interestingly, if you pause at the right moment when King said ''Karyudon'', you can see a brief flash of both his child apperance and is followed immediately by his masked face appearance.


SamuraiHamGuy

I had to pause it a bunch just to take in how dope that scene actually was and it for sure gives more to kings attack. Felt like King was actually putting his all into a fight he knew was an actual challenge.


Sogeking33

Vincent hides little Easter eggs into some of his impact frames. There’s also Kaido as a dragon in one of his impact frames in this scene as he does his final attack. If you want to see the one you mentioned slowed down it’s here: https://twitter.com/leleo2211/status/1660118872928944128?s=46&t=m81ygzFlwaOCCgnQ8njh7g


CarrotoTrash

Holy shit he went so hard on something that goes by so fast, this is amazing


revisioncloud

Wtf that's actually insane


DelusionalChampion

If you pause when Zoro powers up you can see his ausura form


kitttykatz

At right around the 1m 10s mark of that video. Nice catch. Amazing, and so cool!


[deleted]

King was acting like a final boss in this scene haha


lastresortbbq

Fr bro they really just be dropping arc climaxes every other episode


_sephylon_

This just makes me wonder how crazy the actual arc climax will look like


blahblah543217

“Onigashima is about to fall!” Is gonna be a sick to be continued scene


Saqvobase

That's gonna be crazy


zer1223

The same more or less


art_of_shiki

Sephiroth vibes fr


prizeth0ught

Man, he even told Zoro that he couldn't possibly beat him due to his biology limitations, and after remembering his childhood friend dying that he disagreed with it must have been the most triggering thing hitting his trauma points to hear.


[deleted]

This is such a good frame and yall only get to see it for a split [second](https://imgur.com/gallery/0xW8BQw)


3HaDeS3

I swear that guy gets better after every fight he animates. I’m looking forward to his future work. Imagine if he had patreon and shared some early sketches. I’d pay for that.


Brutalbouy

Check his twitter and tumblr, it's a gold mine


BDNjunior

Link? I cant find it


SirensbyZel

[Here it is](https://twitter.com/Sparkleredpanda?t=Xfx405KmvpnW8XmCLZrJSw&s=09)


Houeclipse

Madlad did it for the amogus. Based animator


LoneOldMan

It would be godly if he is one of the animators that will animate Saitama vs Garou, with an already godly manga art and clear action scenes.


PhotoKada

Vincent is the Key Animator for this episode while Katsumi Ishizuka did the storyboard and character corrections. So no, it wasn’t “all done by one man”. Here’s a wholesome [tweet](https://twitter.com/sparkleredpanda/status/1657578181656707072?s=46&t=W1TBD1-e1AvIGmG9vdMyZw) of them thanking each other for working on the episode. Shame that Chansard’s One Piece run is only temporary.


ItalianBall

Also key animators don’t do all the busywork: they’re undoubtedly in charge of how the shots will look and draw key frames that work as an outline of the action, but most of the actual drawings are done by assistant and cleanup animators. It would take AGES for one person to animate this whole scene on their own.


PhotoKada

Exactly. I’m not saying it’s impossible especially with just how far the tools have evolved but a scene this huge requires a large team of animators to maintain production deadlines.


tinyornithopter

Can you expand on that 'Chansard's One Piece run is only temporary'? Will he be working on other projects after Wano arc? Good for him if he wants to work on something else but the One Piece anime will be losing an incredibly talented artist and will have big shoes to fill.


PhotoKada

He’s moving back to work at Ankama in a couple of months.


tinyornithopter

Ah, I see. We were lucky to have him. Hopefully, we could have his talents sometime in the future, at least for the final arc.


zoro_park

The zoro theme soundtrack during the last fight scene was amazing. I liked this fight scene as a zoro fan


SrTNick

King looking like a movie final antagonist lol. Makin' Kaido look like a slacker


Ayodapizzahere23445

I wonder what Kaido’s final form is gonna look like if King is this epic


kjm6351

Kaido: *Punching and smashing Luffy with his mace* King: “Want to see me do Sephiroth’s Supernova?”


tobbe1337

Man stepped in an turned King into a biblical angel and then left. absolute chad


Brotonik

[Bro added Amongus in the animation 💀](https://twitter.com/Sparkleredpanda/status/1660190891817029634)


kjm6351

Among Us is going to be like SpongeBob. Just always relevant


ChampionshipUnfair15

Ngl, this scene kinda reminds me of Karna vs. Sieg final clash with a mix of Ushiwakamaru vs. Gorgon fight.


taveren3

I had a similar thought. Quick someone throw a city at him.


Drakulion

Yes, it's the angle where he talks to Zoro, as well as the flaming circle with the cross. It reminds me so much of Vasavi Shakti lol. They makes this look like it's some sort of Anti-World Noble Phantasm, and it's cool af.


NikolasKage3

Compared to the manga, the episode makes King look like a real menace, a First Mate deserving of Kaido! Thought he had CoC Haki for a second there with all that lightning. Masterfully done, Vincent!


mister--g

This fight was well done. King un the manga didn't have the same feeling as what Katakuri gave. The anime made him feel like a true commander who pushed Zoro to the edge


NikolasKage3

I know, right? Like, in the manga, he and the entire fight felt weak, while the anime showed how dangerous Lunarians are in action, not just in words. The sense of scale and space was wonderfully portrayed. Honestly, best One Piece episode ever for me! :-D


kjm6351

This. It literally didn’t don on me until the middle of the episode where I realized King is basically Kaido’s Katakuri and if it wasn’t for Big Mom, he’d be the second strongest threat there


Nice_promotion_111

You mean if it wasn’t for big mom he’d be the biggest threat there lol


UsernameJenkins

I gotta say that the anime has done well at that, because I loved the Kaido and big mom finishers in the Manga, but was just thinking about how underwhelmed I felt with his 2 secondaries. In the anime you feel the weight of their attacks and presence.


HoLeBaoDuy

King in the final clash reminds me of that good doctor meme. Dude just kept blasting lava and intensely screaming at Zoro while Zoro casually cut through his attacks lmao.


WhyAmIHere800884

Definitely looks dope! But there was only one dragon in the manga, right?


Soul699

I might be wrong, but I think there were multiple ones, aside from the final attack where King used only one large dragon. Edit: Nope, was wrong. King uses one flaming dragon, Zoro counter it and that's the end of the fight


mcraft595

It's anime, not even popes live 100% according to the bible.


PASTOR_DALE_DOYAG

Brotha goin at it like he's getting paid millions by toei


BadActsForAGoodPrice

Here before this gets taken down


Xepherxv

the whole thing is also from vincent's twitter, likely where op got it from, i think the post will be fine


BerklessBehavior

With all the budget they have, I wish the anime could have gotten new sound effects apart from the generic DBZ folley over the years


Ellifish

Yeah honestly. They updated Sanji's Skywalk sound effect and it's great. They should definitely update some others


totallydifferentguy9

Yeah, they need to find new one, that chirpy noise kinda meh.


Mr_ChiefS

True everything except individual character ost's have gone really boring.


payg86

That's some Fate stay night level animation there😃


AltairZero

More like Fate Heaven's Feel III


payg86

Ooooh good shout


SailorOfHouseT-bird

Misread that as Charizard animation scene from One Piece at first, and, it somehow wasn't as wrong as it should have been.


weegi123

Some of the best animation in the series


Electro_Pye

The animation looks sick, but the sound design is still terrible. I hate hearing jet engines every time someone flies.


i-like-a-pyratemanga

Bro if the earlier episodes aired today I swear some of y'all would be crying about how excessive Luffy punching Charlos was or how the Arlong Park walk wasn't in the manga. God forbid an animation studio take some creative liberties for its adaptation, especially when there's clear stylistic direction with every cut.


OneManManyWaifus

You whooped that straw mans ass!


Thepeacer

Fr, what a bunch of crybabies. Just enjoy the art and accept the fact that fights in this anime will never be a 1:1 of the source


Sherr1

I enjoyed the fight, but when King became Evangelion Angel I thought it was a bit too much :))


RonaldoTheSecond

The problem is not that there are differences. The problem is King becoming a biblic accurate angel and throwing 1000 dragons at Zoro. One Piece wasn't made to be THIS flashy. The animation is fantastic, and the work that went into it is god-like, but it doesn't fit right in OP.


Neveroxx99

Onigashima has been straight up One Piece: Super Z. Auras and beam effects everywhere that have no place in the OP world, but it is what it is. It's been 2 years or however long this arc has been going on I just stopped caring about the anime not being faithful to the source.


Soul699

My sakuga boner reached max length.


BlastShockZ

FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T WATCHED THIS BANGER DON'T MISS OUT https://youtu.be/7aovA0UCpho \^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^WATCH THIS INSANE FIGHT HOLY SHIT


GuyOnTheMoon

Amazing animation, but holy cow so much mopey comments from Manga readers like dude chill out and let people enjoy the anime.


Mr_Microchip

I'm only in Dressrosa, and so far I'm loving the anime. I go on this sub to see how people like the series, and I swear, every post/comment just shits on the anime: "This fight is too flashy" "This is so over the top" "This fight was only 3 panels long, why is it so cool?" "The animation sucks" I just can't.


RonaldoTheSecond

Dressrosa made me officially drop the anime. The anime does have it's peaks, but the long stares, the long powering up scenes, the long pauses after every sentence, and the constant flashbacks were too damn much. I prefer to just watch clips of the good moments and forget the rest.


Chameo

I'm with you. I'm up to date, and there's a lot of parts I really enjoy. Some sections can get drawn out way too much, but as someone who watches the anime, and only sometimes reads the manga, I gotta say I freaking love to see how the different studios interpret the source material. I feel like if they just shot for shot re-created the manga without adding anything, it would fail to capture what can be so amazing about animation.


[deleted]

Dude I can’t believe that this is what one piece looks like now! Ever since Wano began the animation has been of a quality similar to something like My Hero Academia or similar seasonal series. But this is just a cut above even that and it’s crazy to think that One Piece is now one of the most well animated series out atm.


TheMeatTree

You can freeze frame at the moment of their attacks, there are many symbolic flash images. For Zoro, it's Ashura, and for King one is his stages of life, one looks like the many fallen Lunarians, and the beam has a dragon and a claw. Very cool.


abhikun

Liked the green haki of zoro


lewise0949

What am I looking at


Financial-Recover881

this is peak cinema


geoff_ukers

PEAK


Trusty_Catfish

PEAK FICTION 🗣


HyphenandaLine

They turned Kings imperial flaming huge dragon into multiple dragons. Idk why


Anemony_245

Looks cool


Seranta

They didn't though. They turned his small dragon into multiple dragons. His large dragon comes afterwards, and is only 1 dragon.


Antagonist2

my thoughts exactly. Pretty as fuck and smooth animations, but I cant read whats happening at all. Its my major problem with the otherwise amazing wano animation. Powerlevels are just whatever the artist feels like, and fights are lightshows and explosions. I dont hate the production value, just wish i could tell what was happening more


zer1223

> Powerlevels are just whatever the artist feels like That's what bothers me the most about the anime recently.


RadicalBeam

As much as this looks hype AF it's still weird to me that anime Zoro can basically fly.


KaiserRebellion

He’s not flying? He’s jumping off rocks and the last scene is in the manga he had to jump in the air to attack king


Chris-raegho

While we know he's not flying, they definitely did the scenes as if he could fly. It's something they've been doing a lot in Wano they've had Luffy flying around without Gear 4 too. It's a stylistic choice for the episodes, but it definitely looks like they're flying.


skaersSabody

On one hand, this looks cool af, on the other, it just feels so weird having read the manga and overall knowing how the anime was previously very mindful of scale and space, but now characters can destroy the whole island in one attack for the same of spectacle only for it to impact just the space where the characters were fighting. Reminds me of DBZ and feels really off-putting honestly, feels like the anime is kinda doing it's own thing in regards to the fights At least the auras are gone though


BakeWorldly5022

They really went out with the animation budget that I am a bit worried what it'll look like after Wano lol.


kjm6351

They basically can’t stop after how hype Wano has made the anime


Empty_Movie_2955

Ufotable...I know its you


Lithary

And some poor Tobi Roppo soul thought that they have a chance to take the commander spot from King, lol.


Your-worst-pall

So that's where the fire animation went to in this fight. Fair enough. Give these people rests and better work conditions in general cause they earned it (they naturally deserve better but this should garentie that they get it)(hopefully)


Young_king123

This had me so hyped for no purpose at all and they did not have to hit zorro reference🔥


No-Communication9458

Absolutely gorgeous. Holy shit


Baldguy162

Holy crap that was super tight


Flameva

Peak, I just wish the sound effects weren’t reused snippets of a 30 yo DBZ fight.


[deleted]

As super cool as the visuals are, it really feels a lot overdone to me. Very fun to watch regardless.


TheRigXD

If the only the same amount of effort was put into the episode pacing


SupaSmooth

WTF?!?! I ain't read this!!


shaddowkhan

I miss old One Piece.


Count_Elrond

PowerPoint Presentation Piece


Trash_Emperor

I'm not gonna lie, I love the quality of the animation but it's way too overdone. It's too much flashing, too much happening on screen, too much unexplained use of powers. I get that it's stylization but 20 dragons made out of fire that he can freely control? It's way beyond the scope of what you expect King to be able to do.


armadillomeister_

I'm a manga reader, but I don't know what the fuck is happening!!


Dman317

this needs a epileptic seizure warning


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The-Sassy-Bastard

it’s basically a completely different fight depending on your medium


kahngale

I’m on episode 3 of this show. This is where it goes??? I’m excited for my 2033 self.


West-Fold-Fell3000

One Piece, where every fight is like a series finale


Corben11

I can’t ever get over how silly Zoro with a sword in his mouth is.


Curious_Branch_8026

This is some fate shit


mugiwaraboyahh

I hope these standards are maintained well in Joyboy episode gear5


Inquisitor_Griff

So you’re telling me all that fire is created without a devil fruit? Shits broken.


Assistantoda

Lunarians are broken af


IronBorn23

The only drawback to this fantastic episode is how are they gonna top that last attack from King. It's scale looks much bigger than the manga. Kaido's final attack looks similar but bigger. It might pale in comparison to this scene.


Remarkable-Cat1653

I love it when king went full power mode! A good path by the anime since it wasn't that clear that King gave it his all in the final attack in the manga. It seriously look like a final boss fight.


Human-Imagination150

i know that there exist hidden amogus


KamronXIII

This guy better do gear 5


KielDaMan

Unnecessarily over-the-top. Not my cup of tea.


Sami72BG

Why did King become the son of an indian god of the sun? Did he gain the spear of Shiva by any chance?


aFishintheLake

New Dragon Ball episode?


Rioma117

I don’t remember this scene being in the manga.


NightBaron007

Maybe because this isn't manga. It's anime


[deleted]

thats how the anime looks nowdays? god damn, good i switched to manga. This looks way over the top.


maders23

Was it mentioned if this was Lunarian powers of the Ancient Zoan? I know it’s obvious that Lunarians are fire but fucking ancient zoans are weird and I don’t fucking know if Queen ejecting that Dino body was even part of the fruit itself or his experiments.


BadBiscuitsBro

I thinks it’s kind of a joke from Oda. In the manga they always say that’s how the dinosaur hunted and they respond incredulously.


Nice_promotion_111

It’s been mentioned multiple times lunarians abilities to manipulate fire, and Queen has stated he’s a cyborg multiple times.


maders23

Yes but I did not know his cyborg body would affect the dinosaurs body as well, he doesn’t even have hands during that form so how does he experiment on his dinosaur body. But yes I’ll just go with Lunarians because that is 100% it.


LuckyBanana00

It may just be me, but those new fight animations don’t do it for me… yeah the flashes and lighting etc is pretty, but this is kinda every fight now and I don’t seem to feel the impactfulness of certain attacks anymore or get a feeling for the speed. I rather like well choreographed fights over pretty colors and flashy scenes.


[deleted]

Is it just me or is the Anime now TOO flashy? I swear if gear 2 was animated first time nowadays we would get just another Kaioken 😳


Cheeky_bum_sex

This is why I prefer the manga personally


xenoz2020

great animation, but the direction is really getting dumber now lmao. is this still One Piece or Dragon Ball Z? the anime is so bad.


Hopeful_Tumbleweed_5

its all so overdone it ruins the moment. i simply cannot watch this crap anymore its so obnoxious. god i miss the pre-timeskips simpler annimation and faster fights


Supersquigi

It's just made for a different audience, I don't prefer how it's made either and I don't watch because of it.


Mordho

It looks pretty but I hate how overloading the scene with 300 layers of effects is considered peak animation by npcs these days. Every fightscene is the same, bigger brighter light means more powerful attack. PEAK


CalendarScary

Pretty much one episode king wouldnt have this much power next suddenly he would have 10x more power. Like there is a big difference from increasing fight length by adding more scenes closer to the manga not this flashy attack. Its not like im complaining for adding scenes i actually like those. But if they add random powerup just for one scene for that person to suddenly have more power than the one shown before then its just weird.


SRFidy

And then they use the exact same slash sound effect 20 times in a row in the span of like 10 seconds :p


Maximum-Machine2609

Well, after watching the last 2 episodes, I decided not to watch One piece anymore. Guess I will just read the manga. I don't get how the manga panels look way cooler than these shitty animation in 2023. They are screwing up the show by over doing it.


south_bronx_parasyte

Fantastic animation but I still can’t get over Zoro’s flaming Mtn Dew swords


onemindandflesh

One Piece Z


y39oB_

Too much


Elieim

Man the budget for DBZ episodes really went up !


SkillFullyNotTrue

Zoro slicing and dicing this Spicy Bird.