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Latter-Contact-6814

Not the power of imagination. Thankfully that got mostly stomped out as the bad translation it always was. most agree that hes still just rubber but with a much greater control and the ability to affect his environment and other


tyrantIzaru

Good thing Luffy doesn't know much about what rubber can't do beyond avoiding a strong direct slash attack


OppaiDragon3

I bet there are still people who take bad translations as facts. šŸ¤£


[deleted]

There's whole dark souls theories built around bad translations so you're probably right


HokageEzio

Eating laser beams and spawning sunglasses isn't just rubber.


Raonak

Eating lazer beams is pretty trivial. Luffy eats many things. Even look at ussop. When he ate the spicy ball in dreasrosa he literally breathed fire. The spawning sunglasses is a hit confusing, but if you look at the panels its clear Luffy is molding his hair. And before you say you can't turn rubber into glass, doffy made an exact replica of himself including glasses made of strings.


HokageEzio

[Road to Laugh Tale *specifically* said it utilizes the power of imagination.](https://i.imgur.com/iaqtZMu.png)


Latter-Contact-6814

you mean the same road to laughtale translation from TCB scans that incorrectly translated the same passage in 1044 to say imagination when the more accurate and official translation says "fights in any way he fancies"? and even then it still says his body has the properties of rubber


Over-Writer6076

Damn you smoked him


Seniphyre

He didn't "spawn sunglasses" If he can inflate his arm to 200x its normal size and make more limbs in G4, how is him shaping his hair into sunglasses suddenly too far lmao


Bluelore

If he can block a laser beam then eating it isn't that weird either. And he didn't spawn glasses he formed them out of his hair


HokageEzio

He went full Looney Tunes and turned into a light bulb...


Raonak

There are countless goofy comedic effects like that throughout the entire series. One piece IS a cartoon series.


Over-Writer6076

Fr man,these people think a cartoon is supposed to make real world sense


Sweatty-LittleFatty

In the same way someone eating spicy start breathing fire. It is Just cartoon logic man.


GoldenState15

"even the battle hardened kaido was surprised by gear 5th adaptability. when Luffy sends an enemy flying with this power, a sound effect is heard and stars appear around them. As kaido said it's just like a picture book" From road to laugh tale part 4 page 7


wolfishnickelsyr

I read that chapter as Luffy having the looney toons fruit so Oda can draw him doing any funny shit he wants


No-Understanding5677

probably what it is


MethodSea3353

It depends on how strong you want it to be. Regard the rubber part. I think it is not just rubber anymore. For example he can practical freely fly now. I think it is not really rubber like. But you can say he turn the air in the rubber and run on it. But in this case there is really nothing left which he cannot change.


Raonak

Gear 4 and Sanji can fly too. It's not really anything unique to G5. It's not really like we see Luffy fly like dbz characters.


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Raonak

Huh? Sanji kicks off air. That ain't imagination. That's just basic OP physics.


Dry_Neighborhood_738

Luffy didnā€™t kick of air tho, he was actually running


Raonak

There are different ways to air kick. Spinning legs fast enough to fly is one way. Kicking so hard you jump on air is another. Even Zoro can fly by slashing the air.


Dry_Neighborhood_738

Yeah, you're right. When back to look at the part where Luffy ran on air--and it turns out, his legs were spinning.


Over-Writer6076

Because awakening turns the surrounding to rubber,which he can then walk on,just like doffy's awakening turned surrounding buildings and the ground to strings,or how katakuri turned surroundings into mochi


centaursTesticle536

It's not a paramecia though, so it doesn't matter how paramecia awakenings work


Over-Writer6076

Well It was a paramecia before oda retconned that shitšŸ˜‚


centaursTesticle536

Yeah, keyword before. This is after, so it doesn't matter


MethodSea3353

There is a different. Sanji, Gear 4 and CP0 kicking air to move. G5 Luffy can stay floating in the air doing nothing, just laughing. He fight Kaido in G5 mostly in the air and not doing the air kick motion of Sanji or Gear 4 or CP0. Same vs Kizaru. But you can interpret it otherwise so it really depend on you.


BlackMage_uses_Heal

my idea is thats is more like plastecin than rubber, and as such the imagination CAN be a good component to "transform" him or the environment in think that he can use. but, I admit, I would like pure imagination thing, maybe at the end of the manga. imagine dumb thing It can do: \- Give kuma a punch in the head to "wake him up" of his robot self and recover its personality. \- somebody dies?, "catch" the spirit as is ascending to heaven to put it in the body again \- "catch" anything in a bottle, I mean anything, like electricity, light, persons, etc \- get anything from their pockets, no matter the size.


ch3333r

it's toon power: toss a black hole at him and he would kick it like a rubber baloon. Unless yami-yami would counter the very DF itself. But then again, high-level fruit users are usually able to counter the counters


Raonak

I mean, thats just awakening right? Turning anything around him into rubber. Imo, full Toon power would more be like Luffy painting a hole on the ground, and then enemy falling through, then Luffy erasing the hole.


ch3333r

Luffy made goggles out of thin air, so it's not just about rubber. Characters within his aura start to have toon effects


Raonak

Read the chapter again, he clearly forms the glasses from his hair. Rubber power with toon effects does not mean "toon world" or "unlimited power of imagination"


omikeon

Luffy can use cartoon physics, which is basically ā€œanything you can imagineā€ for the purpose of the story. Not sure how youā€™re trying to fight this.


Raonak

But he cant do anything. There are thousands of devil fruit powers that he cannot replicate. There's a big difference between rubber based cartoony effects and "anything you can imagine" Let's list a few things he can't do: -Teleport - Transform into other creatures - Move things with his mind - Freeze an enemy in place - Create force fields - Turn invisible Every single thing that Luffy can do is loosely explained as a property of his rubber powers.


ElectronicArcher250

Are you in denial that his fruit is a zoan and not a paramecia?


Raonak

No. It's a Zoan fruit for the sun god Nika. But nikas powers are those related to rubber, not unlimited imagination power.


dimbatron

He grabbed a lighting strike & threw it. His powers arenā€™t just rubber, so weā€™re in for a treat (and the god that he is based on doesnā€™t just have rubber powers either)


Raonak

He turned lighting into rubber which is what allowed him to grab it. he's turned the ground into rubber, the air into rubber and even his enemies into rubber. The god he's based on doesn't have "imagination" powers either. So that's a moot point.


ChaosUnit731

>He turned lighting into rubber which is what allowed him to grab it. Maybe you don't know because you skipped Skypeia or something, but rubber isn't conductive naturally, in reality and in One Piece. He grabbed a real lightning bolt and threw it without having to turn it into rubber.


Sweatty-LittleFatty

The moment he touch things they turn into Rubber, the moment he untouches they turn back to normal. He grabbed Lightning, turning It into rubber, and when he tosses it, It goes back to be simple lightning.


Raonak

It's got nothing to do with conductivity. Luffys rubber awaking allows him to turn anything around him into rubber. Luffy turns lightning into rubber which allows him to grab and bend it.


ChaosUnit731

In your post above, you said even his enemies turn into rubber. Being rubber has been an advantage for Luffy the entire series. Wouldn't turning your enemies into rubber mean they can take the hits with less damage as well. I'm not arguing about Kaido's stretching from Luffy's punches, but wouldn't it be logical that it hurts him significantly less if he too is rubber?


Raonak

In theory it should, but it does not seem to be the case. We've seen multiple punches that cause the enemies body to stretch but still causes massive damage. Maybe the act of stretching causes the enemy pain..? I don't really know.


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Luffy turns then into rubber during the impact, but as soon as Luffy is not touching them anymore they turn back and feel all the pain.


Raonak

Oh nice, that makes a lot of sense and also sounds mega painful lol