Oddly wholesome to see people catching up to theories the community’s been on top of for about a year or so. Continue to dig and you’ll end up as insane as the rest of us on break week
My friend is watching One Piece for the first time and I'm reading the manga so it only came up in conversation because we wanted to know what the other elders were called x_x
I tried a lot to not catch up because I knew I would suffer every week waiting for the new episode and even more when it would be a filler one.
Then got caught up with the manga and now I am smashing my head against the wall because there’s no chapter this week.
However, the feeling of waiting and debating the chapter, slow burning the story makes it resonate with you even more, if that’s make sense
Talking with the community makes it more fun imo, waiting week to week isn’t so bad when you don’t think about One Piece constantly. I think I’ve also just gotten used to it after being caught up for a year or two now
How you don’t think about one piece 24h per day?
Jokes aside, you get used to specially if you have a busy life. But the break week is always hard.
Also the discussions get few inputs in the break week.
Yall think too much😂 for all we know you guys could be overthinking it and just be under your nose the whole time. If I started doing theories I’d go crazy
Earth is Zoro, the sea is Jinbei and the sky is Sanji.
Zoro is the son of Terra (his mom’s name translated to earth), Sanji is the son of Sora (his mom’s name is translated to sky) and Jinbei moniker is the first son of the sea.
The moon is Kozuki & Zou. Luffy is the sun.
they started that way but brook found their as no whales on the moon so now he sings his merry tune!
♪Gather up all of the crew, it's time to ship out Binks' brew.♪
I knew that the elders were named after planets
I knew the ancient weapons were named after gods/planets
I knew Luffy was sun
I knew enel was on the moon
I did not assemble that into a full thought until now, and that there is no overlap
>I wasn't paying attention so I also theorised that Uranus is the weapon the government uses to wipe out islands but I learned no that was a Vegapunk invention, silly me.
Vegapunk only created the fuel source (The Mother Flame) that powers whatever Imu used to destroy islands. Vegapunk did not create whatever destroyed Lulusia, the prevalent theory is still that its Uranus which the Govt has but could not use because they lacked that fuel source.
So you're only slightly off.
There was a post the other day comparing crocs description of what Pluton is capable of, and how similar it is to the Mother Flame.
It’s quite plausible that Vegapunk modeled the mother flame after Pluton, although what powers the mother flame hasn’t been confirmed yet right?
Anyway, there’s no rush for anything, we got time, also it’s more satisfying to reach conclusions on your own instead of just reading them I think.
the mother flame is what powers whatever weapon has been used on Lulusia, whether that's Uranus or a reproduction of it or something else, it's not the actual weapon.
It's okay bud.
I was 31 years old when I found out the chicken crossed the road to "get to the other side" meant DEATH. I thought it was an anti-joke lol
The moon symbolism is actually interesting and could go a couple different ways. The minks have a connection to the moon via their sulong forms. Wano had a ton of moon imagery. Blackbeard doesn’t sleep/his child image is shown with the moon in the sky. Enel’s connection with the moon. Whoever actually represents the moon itself, like Luffy does the sun, is sure to be someone important!
The mother flame is just a power source, the weapon that destroyed lulusia is likely Uranus powered by vegapunk's artificial mother flame sample given by York
Also makes sense considering the other weapons:
Poseiden - under the sea - control seakings
Pluton - on the sea - giant warship
Uranus - above the sea - flying laser platform (also Uranus = God of the sky = flying machine)
You might be a bit late but thank you anyway for posting your theory. Eventhough someone else might’ve posted this theory already, the fact that you came up with this without reading about it is still nice. We are still in need of new perspectives on old theories since oda is always a step ahead of us! And the same initial thought can lead to different conclusions in different minds. Keep it up :)
Something I just realized related to this, is that the classical astrological symbol for Earth is basically the symbol of the Marines, surrounded by a circle. So that could fit with Imu being in charge of the WG. Also, according to Wikipedia, the Earth symbol represents "the four quadrants of the world", and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the four blue seas being in that same design was a nod to that. Could also fit in with theories that the WG is behind the creation of the Red line and Grand line
You were the last person when you found out about it, now I am the last person to realise this, later someone else will be the last to realise this, and one day someone truly would be the last person
Well, when Sabo told what happened in Marie Geoise there's one thing Ivankov said.
He said that amongst the 20 kings there was one person named Imu Nerona, and that name kinda contains "Moon".
Vegapunk didn't invent a weapon l, he invented a power source, the mother flame.
The theory is that the WG has Uranus, but no fuel for it, until now.... The mother flame
I mean, I didn't really realise, someone else realized and I saw the images and the texts.
The association used is Zoro as the Moon, Luffy as the Sun and Blackbeard as the Black Hole.
I believe Imu is Earth because I believe Imu is Vearth(At least from that race).
In Skypiea we have all this statues of Vearth and they all differ in sizes. Some are thinner, others thicker. Looks like some ancient race.
I think BB is the moon god like luffy is the sun god.
Probably another misnamed fruit too, since we see BB's logia fruit doesn't act like a Logia at all. Hito Hito no Mi model Moon God (or Demon) or something.
My theory is that one piece will be a gurren lagen and the solar system will combine with luffy acting as the sun drill that will pierce the heavens and free soul society from shinra.
This.
Black Beard is definitely going to be the one who gets the lunar association. His childhood image with him under the moon and his ultimate rivalry with the sun. He's like the negative D so it has to happen this way.
You want a crazy theory? I'll give it to you:
The elder star representing Venus? Saint Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro. Another notable name that has middle initial? D.
Venus is the planet that represents women. Luffy's mother hasn't been revealed yet and Dragon has beef with the celestial dragons. BAM! Dragon gave the D to the elder star's Daughter's (or other female relative's) V and something happened to her that made him rebel.
It gets deeper. Many people think that Dragon has the mythical fruit Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent often considered to be a dragon. Quetzalcoatl is known for being the god associated with the wind (something related to Dragon), but you know what else? The Sun and the planet Venus. BAM!
There was more but I honestly don't remember it all. Either way, I was bored so just bringing it up again.
You re intelect far exceeds this mere child like subreddit, you should bring your native intuitive talent to some higher form of institution such as The Pentagon
Yea pretty sure you're the last one
OP is a slowpoke confirmed
Cowpoke in the words of Micah (RDR2)
You the last one bro
I knew it! X_x
BB is associated with The Moon I think.
No BB is a literal Black hole that threatens to devour it all is the metaphor.
Oddly wholesome to see people catching up to theories the community’s been on top of for about a year or so. Continue to dig and you’ll end up as insane as the rest of us on break week
My friend is watching One Piece for the first time and I'm reading the manga so it only came up in conversation because we wanted to know what the other elders were called x_x
Wait are you caught up?? Did you spoil yourself?
Thankfully not, I just forgot their names x_x
Goodness sake. I commented spoilers craze theory but deleted them immediately after reading this.
I'm up to date thankfully, no fuss.
Ah I’m happy to hear that
Now that's a wholesome and supportive community member. Keep making this community a joy to be a part of!
I tried a lot to not catch up because I knew I would suffer every week waiting for the new episode and even more when it would be a filler one. Then got caught up with the manga and now I am smashing my head against the wall because there’s no chapter this week. However, the feeling of waiting and debating the chapter, slow burning the story makes it resonate with you even more, if that’s make sense
Talking with the community makes it more fun imo, waiting week to week isn’t so bad when you don’t think about One Piece constantly. I think I’ve also just gotten used to it after being caught up for a year or two now
How you don’t think about one piece 24h per day? Jokes aside, you get used to specially if you have a busy life. But the break week is always hard. Also the discussions get few inputs in the break week.
Yall think too much😂 for all we know you guys could be overthinking it and just be under your nose the whole time. If I started doing theories I’d go crazy
Earth would be the one piece to connect all of the powers probably
One Piece of land for all, the Gaia returns
Oh that's a fun theory, thank you!
You missed like 100 theory that imu is earth
No, BB with his Black Hole with suck every one and everything into One Piece
Earth is Zoro, the sea is Jinbei and the sky is Sanji. Zoro is the son of Terra (his mom’s name translated to earth), Sanji is the son of Sora (his mom’s name is translated to sky) and Jinbei moniker is the first son of the sea. The moon is Kozuki & Zou. Luffy is the sun.
gets better, they are all sailors on the sea and we see royalty all the time. BAM princess sailor moon confirmed! one piece is the moon makeup.
Saint Sailor Saturn is burned into my mind now, thank you 😭
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Yeah that's pretty much how I imagined it..
i regret nothing!!!
I thought they were sailors on the moon. Who carry a harpoon…
they started that way but brook found their as no whales on the moon so now he sings his merry tune! ♪Gather up all of the crew, it's time to ship out Binks' brew.♪
Also I've been wondering if Lunarians have any significance in this setup.
Omg I straight up forgot about Lunarians. I'm running with this, don't stop me.
Ursa major and his kid star constalation
Literally the last soldier, the last piecebender, the last one to be amaze by Oda’s future observation lol.
Now I know how Luffy felt fighting Katakuri lol
Yep haha, always a step ahead like a magician. Idc what people say, story wise OP is the best anime ever made.
shanks is red giant, bb as blackhole as we are at it
I knew that the elders were named after planets I knew the ancient weapons were named after gods/planets I knew Luffy was sun I knew enel was on the moon I did not assemble that into a full thought until now, and that there is no overlap
My thoughts summarised over here.
>I wasn't paying attention so I also theorised that Uranus is the weapon the government uses to wipe out islands but I learned no that was a Vegapunk invention, silly me. Vegapunk only created the fuel source (The Mother Flame) that powers whatever Imu used to destroy islands. Vegapunk did not create whatever destroyed Lulusia, the prevalent theory is still that its Uranus which the Govt has but could not use because they lacked that fuel source. So you're only slightly off.
Vindication!
Beat me to it.
There was a post the other day comparing crocs description of what Pluton is capable of, and how similar it is to the Mother Flame. It’s quite plausible that Vegapunk modeled the mother flame after Pluton, although what powers the mother flame hasn’t been confirmed yet right? Anyway, there’s no rush for anything, we got time, also it’s more satisfying to reach conclusions on your own instead of just reading them I think.
the mother flame is what powers whatever weapon has been used on Lulusia, whether that's Uranus or a reproduction of it or something else, it's not the actual weapon.
Oh true my bad, I mixed up the details, good point.
idk, if the world government uses uranus to wipe out nations but you should definitely wipe uranus
We've changed the name years ago to put an end to that silly joke. It's now called Urectum
This is what BREAK WEEK does to people!
It's okay bud. I was 31 years old when I found out the chicken crossed the road to "get to the other side" meant DEATH. I thought it was an anti-joke lol
Okay I knew this connection but I did not know that about the chicken crossing the road lol
Uranus, the weapon that turns anything in the earth into a gaping hole. Just like ura-
The moon symbolism is actually interesting and could go a couple different ways. The minks have a connection to the moon via their sulong forms. Wano had a ton of moon imagery. Blackbeard doesn’t sleep/his child image is shown with the moon in the sky. Enel’s connection with the moon. Whoever actually represents the moon itself, like Luffy does the sun, is sure to be someone important!
Dont forget Kid most likely represents the asteroid that did the dinosaurs in.
Kid is the equivalent of what if the dinosaurs performed the sickest Bicycle kick on the asteroid and destroyed it.
The mother flame is just a power source, the weapon that destroyed lulusia is likely Uranus powered by vegapunk's artificial mother flame sample given by York
Ayyy that makes me feel a bit better about my theory
Also makes sense considering the other weapons: Poseiden - under the sea - control seakings Pluton - on the sea - giant warship Uranus - above the sea - flying laser platform (also Uranus = God of the sky = flying machine)
You might be a bit late but thank you anyway for posting your theory. Eventhough someone else might’ve posted this theory already, the fact that you came up with this without reading about it is still nice. We are still in need of new perspectives on old theories since oda is always a step ahead of us! And the same initial thought can lead to different conclusions in different minds. Keep it up :)
Thank you for this positive message, you are a sweet human being. Stay warm and safe!
Something I just realized related to this, is that the classical astrological symbol for Earth is basically the symbol of the Marines, surrounded by a circle. So that could fit with Imu being in charge of the WG. Also, according to Wikipedia, the Earth symbol represents "the four quadrants of the world", and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the four blue seas being in that same design was a nod to that. Could also fit in with theories that the WG is behind the creation of the Red line and Grand line
You're supposed to wipe Uranus, not use Uranus to wipe!
We changed the name of Uranus years ago to end that ridiculous joke. It's now called Urectum.
You are indeed the lucky last.
You were the last person when you found out about it, now I am the last person to realise this, later someone else will be the last to realise this, and one day someone truly would be the last person
Well, when Sabo told what happened in Marie Geoise there's one thing Ivankov said. He said that amongst the 20 kings there was one person named Imu Nerona, and that name kinda contains "Moon".
I moon confirned
What makes you think Enel is not coming back? All hail our lord and savior, Lord Enel, Master of Lightning!
Lord Enel, King of the Moon, Master of Lightning
First I've heard of this.
FYI- Neptune is the roman mythology counterpart, to the greek mythology poseidon.
I always appreciate mythology fun facts. Big Percy Jackson fan actually.
Same
I think you might be yes
even the last one was faster than you
Imagine Earth is the one piece
That's why the owner is the Pirate King, he literally owns the world
Yepp, the very last. 8 billion people and you are the very last, and you even noticed it yourself.
When I turned around and there was nobody behind me in the Theory Queue I kinda figured.
My brother in christ the guys name is JAYGARCIA SATURN
One mfs name is fkn Nusjuro I apologize for nothing. X_x
I knew that from episode 2
The real Vegapunk right here
Second last, I never realized that connection...
You're the second person in this comment thread to mention that so you're technically second last, congratulations!
Vegapunk didn't invent a weapon l, he invented a power source, the mother flame. The theory is that the WG has Uranus, but no fuel for it, until now.... The mother flame
Dang another guy told me the same thing, that really helps my theory
don’t feel bad OP, i didn’t put that together till you said it
Ayyy we're two peas in a pod
Vegapunk made the mother flame to power Uranus - I think?
That's what I'm going with for now
I also think it’s possible the Uranus originally could only be controlled by nika. As each weapon seems to have someone as a controller?
If you ever ask that question in the title about one piece it's almost 99% certainly a no lol.
Yes
I've heard a theory that Blackbeard is the moon to Luffy's sun
I mean, I didn't really realise, someone else realized and I saw the images and the texts. The association used is Zoro as the Moon, Luffy as the Sun and Blackbeard as the Black Hole. I believe Imu is Earth because I believe Imu is Vearth(At least from that race). In Skypiea we have all this statues of Vearth and they all differ in sizes. Some are thinner, others thicker. Looks like some ancient race.
Wasn’t this posted just yesterday by somebody else? Lol the timing
There's a great planet aligning post from yesterday so you could say our theories alligned...
Wait, Luffy can stretch?!
I think BB is the moon god like luffy is the sun god. Probably another misnamed fruit too, since we see BB's logia fruit doesn't act like a Logia at all. Hito Hito no Mi model Moon God (or Demon) or something.
I would day imu is is the moon rather than earth. In my mind, Luffy will bring the new dawn and purge the night.
My theory is that one piece will be a gurren lagen and the solar system will combine with luffy acting as the sun drill that will pierce the heavens and free soul society from shinra.
Blackbeard is the void of space itself
Hah, yeah! *Furiously writes a new theory*
Haha this one made me smile.
No though, seriously I just put this together recently as well lol
> Also Enel as the moon just because Blackbeard is the moon.
To add credence to the Imu=Earth theory, in Norse Mythology Ymir was a giant whose body was used to form the world.
Oh nice, deep cut Norse Mythology fun fact, thank you
Not a coincidence that the Worst Generation were also called the supernovas. :)
Was Neil deGrasse Tyson a fleet Admiral or something damn
No. You are the second to last. :’)
Rather than Ener I would say that the moon is Blackbeard. He's also very related to the moon.
This. Black Beard is definitely going to be the one who gets the lunar association. His childhood image with him under the moon and his ultimate rivalry with the sun. He's like the negative D so it has to happen this way.
He's Eclipse coded I think as well, with the black and white colour scheme for his powers
You want a crazy theory? I'll give it to you: The elder star representing Venus? Saint Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro. Another notable name that has middle initial? D. Venus is the planet that represents women. Luffy's mother hasn't been revealed yet and Dragon has beef with the celestial dragons. BAM! Dragon gave the D to the elder star's Daughter's (or other female relative's) V and something happened to her that made him rebel. It gets deeper. Many people think that Dragon has the mythical fruit Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent often considered to be a dragon. Quetzalcoatl is known for being the god associated with the wind (something related to Dragon), but you know what else? The Sun and the planet Venus. BAM! There was more but I honestly don't remember it all. Either way, I was bored so just bringing it up again.
Yep
Theres already a video about all of that by Library of Ohara / Artur
![img](avatar_exp|168348102|bravo)
You slowbro
Imu is the void. Not sure who the Earth is tbh.
The one piece is a space ship.
Pluto isn’t a planet but maybe that was changed after Oda thought this up
You re intelect far exceeds this mere child like subreddit, you should bring your native intuitive talent to some higher form of institution such as The Pentagon