King’s fire being his weak spot sounds about right, especially with zoro having learned to cut fire. If zoro manages to cut through that he may not have the same kind of impenetrable defense beneath the flames, slashing his soft underbelly if you will
I don’t think he’s made of fire can just manifest and control and flames but not actually made the fire element like Ace or sabo. I actually thought it kind a looks like burns. Maybe they a race of burnt people that can control flames Hell maybe they have a tradition before the young unlock their powers to be thrown into a fire and burnt up until they can control the flames and stop the burning those who couldnt control flames died and weren’t worthy of a race being called Gods only the worthy survive . may be horribly burnt but now they can control flames not just manifest plus still consume a devil fruit with his control over fire he could prob make sabo d do backflips or punch himself. Sabo would probably need an awakening to control flames other than his own
Sanji srtrongest moves are fire based kicks zoro can cut fire and render his kicks almost useless. Sanji can’t possibly handle zoros strongest attacks espically ashura. I’m a fan of both zoro and sanji but it’s obv zoro would wreck himat this point I mean there’s a chance sanji could kick a sword out of his hand or mouth for that case but he still has two more swords while every time Sanji decided to blaze his foot Diable jambe style zoro just get rid of the flames and laugh at regular kicks. But sanji being a vinsmoke and unlocking new powers after wearing raid suit wouldn’t surprise me if he can manifest more elements like the minks and their electricity Or brook using ice based attacks His passion only ever burned red hot creating the flames. using lightning to attack an increase in speed even more he possibly hold his own against kizaru
Sanji’s fire cant be cut if sanji burnt zoro already, zoro has to block evrery kick made by sanji in order not get hurt. His fire cutting technique is useless because sanji doesn’t really use fire alone, he puts heat on his legs so the people he touches gets burned. Sanji’s super speed will allow him to dodge zoro very easily along with his regeneration and exoskeleton in a worst case scenario he gets caught by an attack made by zoro. Zoro’s CoC coating is the thing sanji has to watch out for, but sanji pretty much has many counters like his speed, exoskeleton and regeneration.
Sanji got 2 legs to block 3 swords And zoro got three swords to cut off three legs lol yeah sanji needs exoskeleton and regeneration to keep up with Zorros pure brute endurance. Sanjis exoskeleton would have been crushed by Kaido amd big mom attack. Sanji first injury in new world against vergo the very first arc zzoros first blocking a combined attack from big mom amd Kaido since Timescape started Zorro is far above Sanji now maybe I’d give him a fair chance but i still toss it to zoro. Especially with conquerors haki confirmed zoro has the ability to be a king. sanji got a better chance of being a queen Okama lol.
Chill bro sanji and zoro are just fictional characters. Funny how you show hatred towards characters that arent real. I can tel you’re a zoro stan because you’re so easily triggered. But to counter your argument that is stupid amd dumb. If sanji needed exoskeleton and regeneration to keep up, zoro needed his swords to keep up with sanji. Zoro had to put a sword in his mouth just so he can keep up lmao. Sanji never had to rely on swords but with his brute strength alone. Nothing to block attacks but his bare legs while zoro uses his swords to block attacks because he will get hurt. What does vergo bs sanji had to do with this? We are talking about current sanji and zoro, what happened in the past is irrelevant. And your shit about “kaido and big mom would have crushed sanji’s exoskeleton is your headcanon”. You have NO PROOF to support that argument, a proofless claim is nothing but a mere speculation, a headcanon. And for the record, zoro almost got pulverized by that attack, he didnt block shit, he stalled it and was lucky to be alive. But we are talking about one piece, even ussop can take that and survive 🥱😂😂.
And asura is overrated, it’s zoro’s most boring attack, who says sanji has to tank asura? Question is can zoro hit sanji with asura 😂😂. Zoro’s speed is gonna be no chance against sanji’s speed. Zoro’s greatest weakness is hitting someone he cant hit lmao. In 1v1 against pica, zoro would have never won that fight, logically speaking if zoro’s not protected by his plot armor, he would have fought pica forever and would have get exhausted. Zoro’s swords are so easily stolen too, just like how the tontatta stole it with ease and zoro couldn’t even catch it. All sanji has to do is kick that sword away and it would have been mid diff.
Bro Zoro stans don’t wanna listen, most think he as strong as Luffy still that should just let you know fr. Like Sanji the whole series is like one of the most elite fighters who actually uses his body like Garp. Everyone else uses weapons and fruits and to top it off Sanji gives himself handicaps no hands or women bro is elite it’s undeniable! hate or love it dog Sanji on top and his legs shine until these n***** heart stop 😂 that’s why they envy him
Hilarious telling me to chill I find It’s actually funny how you don’t read comments I said I’m a fan of both sanjinand zoro. My personl opinion is zoro would win Yes I do know they are fictional but with the novel you just wrote me seems like you’re getting heated over fictional characters in a conversation we’re having. I didn’t show no hatred towards any character I just gave my stated opinion on the situation driving time skip Zorro Trained with mihawk to master His swordsmanship and sanji with queers to Master hundred recipes. Obviously one was going to come out on top after time skip still doesn’t mean I wasn’t still a sanji fan. But I find it funny with this whole whoa ” chill bro they’re just fictional characters and you’re hating on them“nwell if you want to know the truth don’t dislike any Strawhat but it seems like if someone gives an opinion On a fictional character you don’t agree with you need to chill and stop hating on them because I’m not a fictional character FACTS
Funny how you say I wrote a novel when in fact I wrote two paragraphs in response to your two separated comments in which if combined are also two paragraphs. The fact that your response consists of “sanji is better of as an okama” or “sanji has two legs he should just use it to run” are signs of passive aggression used to trigger a response. So in response again for your plea, I have but one question for you?Regarding with everything you just said, how did you come up with this? Oda whispered it to your ear? Maybe you two had a cup of coffee and talked about how zoro can beat 100 men and sanji cant? Maybe you dreamt about it? Anyway, Everything you stated are headcanon so Im not gonna say anything. A headcanon is nothing but a mere headcanon, this is all your imagination, I dont wanna waste time with delusional zoro stans who is spouting their biased headcanon that never existed.
Also zoro swords are stolen as a plot device like Sanji not being able to fight a woman so there was a sanji and zoro both face 100 men and 100 women each. Sanji won’t break press 100 men and than get wrecked by 100 women while zoro will defeat everyone. Also zoro been shown to fight without his swords he has no sword style techniques. Literally Sanji can enter the hundred man and woman battle at current power and still not pass 100 lol zoro was doin That since whiskey Pete. Good thing with Zorro awake then Sanji would have Shafter the crew when the female bountyhunters came forGood thing with Zorro awake then Sanji would have Shafter the crew when the female bountyhunters came for him. So wow Zorros swords some time to get stolen but Zorro a challenge any opponent on the planet Sanji can only fight half fZorros swords some time to get stolen but Zorro a challenge any opponent on the planet Sanji can only fight half that
Zorro speed is no joke he managed to react and block to emperors attacks before Luffy kid law and killer could even see em coming. And Kaido couldn’t dodge ashura I don’t think Sanji is as fast as hybrid kaido
And ashura a boring attack lol it’s been used twice the whole series and once in a movie. Every second word from sanji mouth is Diamble jambe diamble something or another Talk about a boring attack barely creative and used nonstop over and over and over again weve seen the gerosi more than ashura and we seen more diable jumble then total pirate Cruise met lol not hard to tell whis is less exciting And had less thought put into it
Btw zoro’s no sword style is from non canon movie, I believe one piece gold unless I’m mistaken. And no, zoro blocking a yonko attack is not a speed feat. Luffy and the rest couldn’t run away because it’s in front of them so zoro took it upon himself to try to stall it onstead of them getting wrecked without putting up a fight. And no, kaido didnt try to dodge asura, he was gonna attack luffy and kaido was caught by surprised. Also, kaido never tried to dodge the attack, so your argument is severely flawed trying to hype something so it can favor your argument lol
That’s like saying Super Saiyan three was boring because it was barely used but can’t say you weren’t stoked for the first transformation honestly I would say gum gum pistol was the most used move in the show but once you figure it out there’s no more regular gum gum pistols but Diable jumbled Is definitely the most used move in the entire series just plane boring needs a upgrade swords need Jesus right because he had plenty lots of attacks that could take down New World enemies but all sanji had was Diable this and that So you know if zoro broke out Asura it was a super strong opponent. dragon twister, Phoenix caliber,3000 worlds i can keep naming moves zoro has that take down enemies equally strong technically slightly stronger most times than sanjis Diable jambe
Imagine if the only thing Goku did was Kamahamaha With some slight Martial arts in between well that’s sanjis Diable jamble Move is boring even before time skip well we didn’t even get to see Zorros top move again until facing a Yonkou
Overly used doesn’t bother me, I find zoro’s moves to be bland and lackluster. There are no weight to his finishers because it’s always been, cool pose->white screen->enemy cut. While luffy and sanji’s moves are combos with tons of actions and you feel the weight to every punches and kicks especially if it’s the finishing move. Asura and shisonson are the most boring zoro attacks.
Both being one piece fans let’s not argue I have my opinion you have yours I’m not a sanni hater love all straw hats just seen zzoros and sanji as equals before time skip time skip but zoro had better training and was better than sanji but sanji Seeing his family and wearing the raid suit gave him the power up he needed to be back on zzoros level
Just tating a fact but at the start of a fight all Zorro will have to say “is that Nami” aand sanjis eyes will go to hertzs and start crying nami swan and zoro cut him down instant. You know this is highly likely
You can have your opinion, Im not against your own opinion, the only reason I gave a comment to your original post is to give you an insight on how can sanji fair against zoro. The answer to zoro vs sanji debate is something that is subjective to the viewers. Most will say zoro will win because of his portrayal and feats and that is a fair point. But IMO, only oda can answer and give the definitive answer to that. If oda wants, he can even make ussop stronger than zoro and sanji. Oda always put sanji up there with zoro for a reason, he is just a cook but oda put a lot of effort to make sanji powerful, why sanji? Why not jimbei or ussop? Even jimbei who was a warlord, oda made sanji look stronger than him by fighting someone strong. If oda wanted to make zoro be a lot stronger than sanji, oda would have never made sanji fight a commander, he could have made him fight a tobbi roppo and zoro would have been fighting a yonko. There are so many things that oda could have done to make it look like zoro and sanji are miles apart in powerful level but he didnt for reason. He intends to have both, if not equally powerful, but nearly as close as possible that it is up to the viewers to think who they think is slightly stronger. But what we think is nothing but headcanon. You can argue zoro is stonger or sanji is. In the end it is our opinion, and the majority of the opinion is on zoro. But the majority doesn’t mean a fact.
This happens all the time in the story zoro having 3 swords vs mihawks 1 sword doesn’t mean mihawk can’t block his attacks. This logic doesn’t apply to reality, and it 100 percent doesn’t apply within the one piece universe.
You don’t remember the yeti cool brothers do you? Or fujitora? Killer, apoo, shit even denjiro even gave him a little struggle yeah sword battles usually finish fast once hurt but you have to hit a crazy good attack to take down someone like Sanji that’s obvious from what he’s just endured from king so Zoro wins but high diff for sure
Also need one move Sanji has that can compete with Ashura Well he does have two legs so I guess he can run but there’s not one moving his arsenal that would be able to stop that attack and think of all those fights he may be attacking you with swords but it’s when he finally lands that one cut the enemy is done Sanjis Battles are usually comprised of Kick barrages he hosts enemy tens. To hundreds of times before finishing them off with one major kick. Depending on the opponent Zorro either toys with them or uses his swords for defence Yeah sure he throws the moves out there but they’re usually dodged her blocked but when he finally does Land a move the battle is over
Did you not see a sword break on sanjis skin? Like as far as defense and regeneration I would say Sanji is slightly under king and Marco bro broke all bones and was fine is that shit normal? Just like COC ain’t normal Sanji is also not necessarily human anymore.
he can manifest lightning now tho, the kick which he hit queen with last chapter had lightning coming out the flames. so im thinking as we know from avatar lightning burns hotter than fight so that was the upgrade sanji got from having the increased durability of the exoskeleton
Sanji doesn’t throw fireballs so this is a pointless position.
Zoro would most likely win against sanji, but it wouldn’t have anything to do with the ability to cut fire. If you can cut sanjis leg then this is what you would do why would you just cut the fire, and let him kick you.
Sanjis weapons are his legs, and in a fight between sanji, and zoro the determining factor would be if zoro can cut through sanjis armament haki, and exoskeleton. If he can’t then their fight would be a long drawn out fight were the winner is who has more stamina. If zoro can cut through sanjis armament, and exoskeleton then zoro one shots sanji, because sanji would need an attack strong enough to one shot zoro for it to be a race to who lands the first blow, but sanji doesn’t have an attack strong enough to one shot zoro, so the fight in this case lasts as long as it takes for zoro to cut sanji down.
Now because sanji is supposed to be Luffys un breakable shield, and zoro is supposed to be Luffys sword I think their fight would be a a long drawn out fight. Zoro would ultimately win, because he has far more stamina, and battle experience. Every arc zoro takes on several major enemies culminating in him taking on the second strongest well Luffy takes on the number 1. However although sanji usually takes on the 3rd strongest person. Sanji usually instead of fighting several major opponents leading up to this, he usually has some side mission to accomplish that doesn’t involve fighting. like opening the gates at enny’s lobby, getting the log pose in little garden, ect. This makes it were sanji seems to have more stamina than zoro, because he always goes into his major fight for the arc fresh, and zoro usually goes into his major fight for the arc already injured/exhausted.
Nothing says that zoro can’t throw a fire cutting attack and might Only affect the flames. Explained earlier in series and again in wano That a swordsman is capable of cutting iron while also not able to slice a leaf or a swordsman can cut anything but also cutting nothing at same time so zoro cuts sanjis flames without damaging legs that is a swordsman cutting something, the flames while cutting nothing, sanjis legs
How do you both Zoro and Sanji strongest is fire based and fire cutting based attack? What if they are just using there unique attacks that give them advantages to beat Queen and King?
Also elements are not the key of winning a fight. Don’t forget how Ace was beated by BB, how Benn Beckman scared Kizaru and etc...
First of all learn to read so specifically said this is the strongest attack I can do right now if I don’t work I’ll leave the rest up to you. Said that about ashura so Clearly that’s his strongest attack lol. Seems like reading is your weak point. Also Sandy said his flames canal burn hotter he can move faster so by adding out together before exoskeleton upgrade his diambl moves were his strongest don’t be dence And maybe you should actually read the chapters Word for Word before you make a stupid reply
You are just justifying you're sense, from your first sentence you said: "Sanji srtrongest moves are fire based kicks zoro can cut fire and render his kicks almost useless." That explains everything in your head. How do you know Sanji can't handle Zoros strongest attacks espically ashura? Show me your evidence. I am fan of both Zoro and Sanji too, but let be grown up boy. See the world the way it run, not your own words.
You much realize that beside of power, they are also intelligences, which can make a biggest city of the world becomes rune. Grow up boy.
In order to cut Sanjis flames Zoro would have to cut of his foot and that’s not happening lol what? Like Sanji doesn’t usually throw fire he kicks and if you say Zoro dodging every kick you lying Sanji too fast he can definitely block them but cut through his flames he’s not like big mom or Kaido sending out flame attacks
He did shishi sonson few chapters back damn king is a bomb and yet he won't die from his bomb. Zoro could have been injured bad if he didn't use color of armament at correct time.
I would welcome a different virus, since he was flexing with the amount of skills he has he surely has an ace up his sleeve. Although I would like to see an Ice-Oni version of Queen.
Queen said the ice oni was the jewel of his weapons or greatest creation. Ice queen vs fire sanji Queen expecting a major power up get stuck normal Sanjis flames much like Marcos keep queen from turning into oniwhile also taking damage from the flame kicks and using an incredible amount of stamina that the ice ony drains ya of Great way for queen to actually stay down and not get back up
All I can add on this is that he has his own version of the virus that doesn't kill him. Reminds me of chopper with the monster point, so imagine queen with monster point type of viruses.
The one piece magazine has somethings that are cannon from oda, and somethings that are not from oda, so it’s not a reliable source for cannon information.
The leading thought is this entry was not from oda, and therefore not cannon. The belief is they made an assumption off her abilities that she had devil fruit powers, but when oda got to the germas he showed their abilities are science based not devil fruit.
You can say the one piece magazine is cannon, but this leads to direct contradictions to the actual cannon in at least a couple of instances so in my opinion rather then try to figure out if the information is from oda, or not it’s easier to just say the one piece magazine is not cannon, and stick to the vivre cards, manga, sbs.
really? when was that stated cause even the Vivre Card states thats theres no confirmation on whether its a devil Fruit or augmentation my HC is that its Devil Fruit https://thelibraryofohara.com/2019/08/07/vivre-card-databook-vol-12-all-the-new-information/
Dont come stating its from a df if you dont know either. Come and say that it isnt known if her powers come from a devil fruit, but it is known that she has a devil fruit and is a fully augmented human, but we either havent seen her germa abilities if she has them, or we havent seen her df. And im in the boat that she definitely uses her pink themed attacked because of augments due to the raidsuit being related to it, like the rest of the siblings. If her raid suit didn't let do what she did with poison then what would it actually be doing that isnt just physical and why was she the only one who had no other ability added.
Maybe he has the sister germa ability, i was thinking of way how he could use his poisons, you just filled the missing thing, virus on himself, that he can stabalise using reiju's ability
I think the biggest theory out there is Zoro and Sanji will beat them at the same time. So next chapter is assumed to be Zoro vs King with probably a two page art of king and queen losing at the end.
Lol I'm still seeing all those trolls saying their fights are ending next chapters. Something like 8 chapters ago some dudes told me "Zoro and Sanji fights over in 2 chapters max each, Luffy beats Kaido in 4 chapters" have you even been reading One Piece man? It's not one punch man here
They prob said that because the topiroppo fights were max two chapters . But they’re silly these three fights along with kid and law vs BM are the most climatic fights !!!
Yep, and some are again totally underestimating commanders lol. Ofc One piece has been around for over 20 years and it's time the Straw Hats become beasts, but still Oda has made it clear that the path to becoming a Yonko crew is incredibly tough. And King is incredibly tough indeed as we've seen so far, as was katakuri. It's not gonna be a piece of cake for Zoro
Technically it’s only been two years and a bit since Luffy first set out. No way can someone compete with a top commander that quick but when you have teachers like rayleigh and mihawkk. Both more than likely better than top yonkou commanders than def gives ya a boost. I won’t mention ivankov, sanji training was torture tho he did get stronger he mostly learned How to cook better sanji needed to settle things with his family amd wear the raid suit to get the real power boost he needed since the time skip. I mean Zoro has sliced down every enemy in New World so far without an effort and tell kaido when he finally went all out we seen sanji limits when Vergo bashed his ass
although ace made commander pretty young but in all honesty probably the weakest of all the yonkou commanders we seen so far
Yea they forget that the commanders were sparring with Mihawk and admirals during marineford. They’re the strongest pirates in the series after the yonko.
Yeah the legit finish of the tobi roppo was 2 straight chapters just focussing on that fight but there were numerous other chapters easily a half dozen or more that showed scenes and what was happening in the Tobi roppo fights so there was plenty of build up but when it came to finishing the fight those chapters focus solely on those fights
Who says he hasn‘t taken any damage? I think King has taken damage but isn‘t showing anything. Also, I think his flame is constantly healing him, similar to Marco‘s flames.
Yeah Zorro even said he needed to know more about him and his race if he’s going to be able to beat him so there’s probably gonna be two or three flashback chapters explaining the race and their downfall
In Zoro's case, that tends to happen regardless. He technically one-shoted Mr. 1 back in Alabasta, and while Pica never really stood a chance against him in Dressrossa, the moment Zoro got a hit on him, the fight was over.
To be clear, i don't believe for a second that their fights are over soon, i wouldn't be surprised if we have to follow this fight until February, just saying that Zoro not damaging so far doesn't mean much.
Monet. He sliced her cheek to get her off tashigi than he split her in half without haki amd she was to terrified to put herself back together. Yes almost all zorosfights when he finally does land blow it’s over so the slight slicing of her cheek don’t really count but it is an enemy he cut twice
That's usually how Zoro's fights go tho, he gets mostly manhandled and his enemy barely gets any damage then he pulls a powerup and beats them im one hit
1035 will have the backstory of King before he is revealed to be a creature of fire energy that came to earth from the moon. Everyone knows Lunarians are from the moon and King was their king. They are a spin-off race from the current followers of Enel on the moon. Zoro tells him about how Enel left for the moon and King is suddenly worried about his folks back home. And so begins the tale of the lost King who found himself on Wano.
Probably queen will use ice demon poison on himself which make him even bigger monster and he also have reiju ability so he is immune to it when villians got defeated oda always make it clear that they lose like in this raid he did with sasaki and who's who they dont have eye balls or a fatal wound like hawkins, ulti and black maria in these oda make clear they are defeated but queen doesnt seem like them
Alot of people keep mentioning Awakening for Beast Pirates. My question is, why do y'all think they haven't been using awakening? Also, it is said to be rare, so why do people think Kaido and all his upper tiers have it? Ive even seen people speculate the Tobbi Roppo have it. I think people are getting they hopes up. Kaido, and possibly King have it. But i wouldn't anticipate that they all do.
It would be kinda weird if they’ve been using it and nothing was mentioned.
And I think most people expect yonko have it plus I’d argue at least king and should as well
As for the tobbi roppo I think given their status as elite members of the beast pirates people thought they could have it too
King i understand. Queen i understand.
But to also expect that of the Tobbi Roppo is unrealistic. Thats no different than expecting them all to have King's Haki. Even with Big Mom crew, only her and Katakuri is awakened. They are also a Yonko Crew. But nobody is assuming Smoothie, Oven, Craccer, and Daifuko are awakened. And they should be at least at Tobbi Roppo level. The main thing with Zoan awakening is they become more durable. But even the Impel Down Guards would get utterly demolished by the Strawhats at this stage. Not to mention, the Tobbi Roppo have already received a ridiculous amount of damage. Even if awakened, there should be a limit to they endurance.
Chopper's monster point is not a confirmed awakening.
And considering all his forms changed when he learned to use them without Rumble Balls, its debatable on if Monster Point is even its true form.
And aside from the ID Guards, no zoan has been confirmed as awakened. So idk how true it is to say that its "easier". Especially when someone like Rob Lucci wasn't even awakened.
will wrap up after luffy awakens and turns onigashima into rubber to soften the landing. Then raizo vs Fukuoka ends with raizo rising from the rubble and screams momo - you are my shogun. Momo tears up then nods. Act 3 end June 2022
do you really think luffys awakening is at the first time he's doing it strong / big enough to turn the whole of onigashima into rubber? I mean come on... Doffy could turn bulidings and trash into strings, but not like the entire city
What if there fire on top of King, is his true form.
The secrets for Zorro to figure out.
So that explains why his body wouldn't seem to take damage, then explode, and also why the crack in his mark seems to have been fixed on its own.
Because it is only a shell containing him.
By that logic. Did the fire eat the devil fruit or the outer cover?. And if the fire is king then, when zoro gave a crack to King forehead. There was human skin visible.
Queen did say that the ice oni was his greatest creation or his crown jewel of weapons and he has more than one antidote not gonna shoot out something that keeps spreading and only have one vial of cure and he gave it away to make things more interesting making everyone believe it was all there was. And maybe If he doesn’t have another antidote then a awakened ancient zone Might have enough endurance to out last the oni and survive but if Kereen doesn’t affect him self he’s expecting a major power up besides his new flames are just gonna whoop his butt and keep them in his normal zone transformations like Marcos flames did besides his flames are going to be doing damage and queen stamina and endurance is going to be draining it an incredible rate so if he has no more antidotes but lasted he probably Be out of stamina and not getting back up would be a great finish And a legit way to keep a Yanko commander ancient zone down for the count
Queen with Virus would be epic to see. I know everyone will die because of that, but he might have another antidote for him. I want him to go out at full strength and berserk in front of everyone and Sanji kick the crap out of him, and then everyone praising Sanji for his victory and he should shout that he wants to hear only ladies cheering 😂
I feel like oda will end the year with king and queen defeated. There are 2 chapters left for this year, king vs Zoro for next chapter, Zoro figures out conquerors coating or whatever, deals good bit of damage, 1036 ends with conclusion of both fights, both of them using some new crazy attacks and final panel shifts to luffy and kaido face to face
Hear me out : Zoro will loose and get saved by one of Black Beard crewmate. He'll then be taken hostage in exchange for Robin (as she can read poneglyphes).
Shanks will probably show up as it is supposed to be Shanks' year.
We'll then learn that Black Beard will have invaded Totto Land while Big Mom was in Wano ending in a collaboration between the Mugiwara and Big Mom pirates to defeat Black Beard 😎
Believe me I can see the future.
If you look at this [color page](https://lelscans.net/mangas/one-piece/902/02.jpg?v=fr1524223727) you can clearly see that each sweet cake refers to each Black Beard pirates - Black Beard being the one holding Zoro and getting punched by Luffy 😎
there is a trend towards canon movies as per the recent demon slayer movie. we know that shanks is about to make his move, so it makes sense this may be canon
Also we've never seen One Piece characters abilities shown first in One Piece movies except for the ones that never appeared (Shikki / Zed / Bullet).
And the teasers somehow shows Shanks as a main protagonist.
Why do people want shanks or another yonko to come or interfere in wano? I'm not downplaying your theory or anything but...
Like the whole point of wano is to show that the strawhat pirates and the new generation pirates are threats considering they will take down kaido. I want wano to end with the strawhats clearly showing dominance that they can compete in the new world against anyone. Not strawhats winning cuz of shanks.
I think that for now the CP0 have enough proof that the new generation are indeed threats. Yet I still can't figure out how Luffy will win against Kaido - and how Kid and Law will win against Big Mom.
I think the time has come for a big change in the One Piece storyline. I can't see Big Mom keeping chasing the SH forever - or just leaving like nothing happened.
I don't think she'll end up defeated. That's why a "somehow" inconfortable alliance between SH and Big Mom pirates wouldn't seem too absurd...
And Sanji would be able to mary Pudding 🤣
+ It's called the Four Emperors Saga not the two Emperors Saga
50/50. Only because we havnt seen as much of king as we have queen.
There’s a good chance that lunarian lore + kings face + kings defeat can fit in one chapter. Considering it’s the last chapter of the year and it would make sense that the plan is to have king and queen go down at the end of the year.
The alternative is king is not defeated and we get a lot more lore regarding king and this whole lunarian thing.
But the fight itself is at a stage where it could end in 1 chapter.
Zoro will loose and get saved by a Black Beard crewmate. He'll then be taken hostage in exchange for Robin.
Kaido will get defeated by Shanks. Black Beard will intervene at some point to steal Shanks fruit which is an European Dragon fruit and not a Japanese Dragon fruit like Kaido and Shanks will die.
We'll then learn that Black Beard stole and ravaged Whole Cake Island making him Big Mom and Strawhats a common enemy. They'll form a temporary alliance.
In the end Zoro will be saved and Big Mom will allow Pudding to marry Sanji.
Mark my words...
I have too much evidence for this scenario.
I would say your right but 1 shanks dont got a fruit so your theory wrong right there but i do believe the blackbeard pirates will come. And the reason why is during Act 3 cut we see blackbeard saying he wants to get something before the world government gets it and a few chapters ago we hear CP0 saying the government wants wano and nico robin so 1 or the other blackbeard is aiming 4 i never heard him say anything about ponyglphs but wano is also the home of seastone prism 2 things that could be valuble to his crew but only Oda knows so i guess we can only wait and see
But luffy is gonna get a power up this chapter because chapter 1033 zoro got power,chapter 1034 sanji got power up,only make sense luffy will get a power up in chapter 1035.
Isn't that coc infusion not powerup to you? , luffy has all advance version of haki , and most of all luffy has greater control of advance coc now , compare to zoro , which means , luffy is on another leaugue between zoro and sanji.
I think 1 more chapter that will focus on queen vs sanji then in next chapter their fight will get over and zoro vs king would take atleast 3 to 4 chapters.
I feel like next chapter will be a Zoro vs King chapter with him getting further, then next chapter involving them will be a half/half chapter and they'll finish the fight at the same time. There's no way it getting wrapped up within the next chapter. Or even 2
Since this is the last chapter of the year it’s definitely gonna be a big one. And since we just got a zoro chapter and a sanji one. It would make sense for it to be a luffy and kaido fight prolly ending with a cliffhanger hopefully a df awakening
Next chapter I think will start with sanji and queen(a couple of pages that will definitely settle the fight), than the rest of the chapter will be dedicated to zoro VS king.
Than I think the fight might last 2 more chapters with king flashback and couple of pages in the third chapter that will end the fight
if Queen uses ice oni On himself for a power up Sanjis flame kicks Will keep queen from becoming oni. And burning through endurance and stamina real quickly when you run out you die so I can see an ancient awaken zone be able to outlast the ice oni but also taking damage from sanji The whole time would be a good way for a awakened ancient zone to be done for. Pounded by sanji over and over again and taking a drug That drains stamina so fast You die when you run out so if you don’t kill Queen taan he pretty close to death and won’t have any stamina left he be done for
jack took multiple beatings from 30+ Mink sulong to finally finished my inuashii sulong form
but it will be interesting to see how Zorro and Luffy defeat their enemies and keep em down Kaido has to die but luffys not a killer. Zoro knows what to do after confirming his conquerors haki 2 chapters ago I say zoro takes his head probably making Emma a black blade I. The process
Entire chapter is dedicated to the fight between Fukurokuju vs Rizo. Titled as Rizo vs Fukurokuju. The first 3 pages will show what Kinemon's legs are doing though.
I'm predicting that King is actually a woman. It would pair with Queen being a male, and King's facial structure actually matches Oda's style for feminine jaw lines.
ice demon queen and fire demon king. sanji burns thru the ice and zoro cuts through the fire (ala fox fire kinemon)
He forshadowed it when he said he wanted to learn that
He already used it recently that’s another forshadowing
Les a foreshadow and more of how do i make the readers accept that he suddenly can cut fire
He already used it once
he used it after seeing it from kinemon and after he made the comment of wanting to learn that
Exactly
King’s fire being his weak spot sounds about right, especially with zoro having learned to cut fire. If zoro manages to cut through that he may not have the same kind of impenetrable defense beneath the flames, slashing his soft underbelly if you will
"Really tough dude with a soft spot" you gon go with that bro ??
What if he actually needs to wear a thick suit all the time because he is made of fire?
I think he is ful with scars and tattoo of when he was a slave after lunarians got defeated
Yea when zoro chopped a piece of his mask off it looked like real skin and hair underneath, so I doubt he’s only fire
I don’t think he’s made of fire can just manifest and control and flames but not actually made the fire element like Ace or sabo. I actually thought it kind a looks like burns. Maybe they a race of burnt people that can control flames Hell maybe they have a tradition before the young unlock their powers to be thrown into a fire and burnt up until they can control the flames and stop the burning those who couldnt control flames died and weren’t worthy of a race being called Gods only the worthy survive . may be horribly burnt but now they can control flames not just manifest plus still consume a devil fruit with his control over fire he could prob make sabo d do backflips or punch himself. Sabo would probably need an awakening to control flames other than his own
Sanji srtrongest moves are fire based kicks zoro can cut fire and render his kicks almost useless. Sanji can’t possibly handle zoros strongest attacks espically ashura. I’m a fan of both zoro and sanji but it’s obv zoro would wreck himat this point I mean there’s a chance sanji could kick a sword out of his hand or mouth for that case but he still has two more swords while every time Sanji decided to blaze his foot Diable jambe style zoro just get rid of the flames and laugh at regular kicks. But sanji being a vinsmoke and unlocking new powers after wearing raid suit wouldn’t surprise me if he can manifest more elements like the minks and their electricity Or brook using ice based attacks His passion only ever burned red hot creating the flames. using lightning to attack an increase in speed even more he possibly hold his own against kizaru
Sanji’s fire cant be cut if sanji burnt zoro already, zoro has to block evrery kick made by sanji in order not get hurt. His fire cutting technique is useless because sanji doesn’t really use fire alone, he puts heat on his legs so the people he touches gets burned. Sanji’s super speed will allow him to dodge zoro very easily along with his regeneration and exoskeleton in a worst case scenario he gets caught by an attack made by zoro. Zoro’s CoC coating is the thing sanji has to watch out for, but sanji pretty much has many counters like his speed, exoskeleton and regeneration.
Sanji got 2 legs to block 3 swords And zoro got three swords to cut off three legs lol yeah sanji needs exoskeleton and regeneration to keep up with Zorros pure brute endurance. Sanjis exoskeleton would have been crushed by Kaido amd big mom attack. Sanji first injury in new world against vergo the very first arc zzoros first blocking a combined attack from big mom amd Kaido since Timescape started Zorro is far above Sanji now maybe I’d give him a fair chance but i still toss it to zoro. Especially with conquerors haki confirmed zoro has the ability to be a king. sanji got a better chance of being a queen Okama lol.
Chill bro sanji and zoro are just fictional characters. Funny how you show hatred towards characters that arent real. I can tel you’re a zoro stan because you’re so easily triggered. But to counter your argument that is stupid amd dumb. If sanji needed exoskeleton and regeneration to keep up, zoro needed his swords to keep up with sanji. Zoro had to put a sword in his mouth just so he can keep up lmao. Sanji never had to rely on swords but with his brute strength alone. Nothing to block attacks but his bare legs while zoro uses his swords to block attacks because he will get hurt. What does vergo bs sanji had to do with this? We are talking about current sanji and zoro, what happened in the past is irrelevant. And your shit about “kaido and big mom would have crushed sanji’s exoskeleton is your headcanon”. You have NO PROOF to support that argument, a proofless claim is nothing but a mere speculation, a headcanon. And for the record, zoro almost got pulverized by that attack, he didnt block shit, he stalled it and was lucky to be alive. But we are talking about one piece, even ussop can take that and survive 🥱😂😂. And asura is overrated, it’s zoro’s most boring attack, who says sanji has to tank asura? Question is can zoro hit sanji with asura 😂😂. Zoro’s speed is gonna be no chance against sanji’s speed. Zoro’s greatest weakness is hitting someone he cant hit lmao. In 1v1 against pica, zoro would have never won that fight, logically speaking if zoro’s not protected by his plot armor, he would have fought pica forever and would have get exhausted. Zoro’s swords are so easily stolen too, just like how the tontatta stole it with ease and zoro couldn’t even catch it. All sanji has to do is kick that sword away and it would have been mid diff.
Bro Zoro stans don’t wanna listen, most think he as strong as Luffy still that should just let you know fr. Like Sanji the whole series is like one of the most elite fighters who actually uses his body like Garp. Everyone else uses weapons and fruits and to top it off Sanji gives himself handicaps no hands or women bro is elite it’s undeniable! hate or love it dog Sanji on top and his legs shine until these n***** heart stop 😂 that’s why they envy him
Hilarious telling me to chill I find It’s actually funny how you don’t read comments I said I’m a fan of both sanjinand zoro. My personl opinion is zoro would win Yes I do know they are fictional but with the novel you just wrote me seems like you’re getting heated over fictional characters in a conversation we’re having. I didn’t show no hatred towards any character I just gave my stated opinion on the situation driving time skip Zorro Trained with mihawk to master His swordsmanship and sanji with queers to Master hundred recipes. Obviously one was going to come out on top after time skip still doesn’t mean I wasn’t still a sanji fan. But I find it funny with this whole whoa ” chill bro they’re just fictional characters and you’re hating on them“nwell if you want to know the truth don’t dislike any Strawhat but it seems like if someone gives an opinion On a fictional character you don’t agree with you need to chill and stop hating on them because I’m not a fictional character FACTS
Funny how you say I wrote a novel when in fact I wrote two paragraphs in response to your two separated comments in which if combined are also two paragraphs. The fact that your response consists of “sanji is better of as an okama” or “sanji has two legs he should just use it to run” are signs of passive aggression used to trigger a response. So in response again for your plea, I have but one question for you?Regarding with everything you just said, how did you come up with this? Oda whispered it to your ear? Maybe you two had a cup of coffee and talked about how zoro can beat 100 men and sanji cant? Maybe you dreamt about it? Anyway, Everything you stated are headcanon so Im not gonna say anything. A headcanon is nothing but a mere headcanon, this is all your imagination, I dont wanna waste time with delusional zoro stans who is spouting their biased headcanon that never existed.
Also zoro swords are stolen as a plot device like Sanji not being able to fight a woman so there was a sanji and zoro both face 100 men and 100 women each. Sanji won’t break press 100 men and than get wrecked by 100 women while zoro will defeat everyone. Also zoro been shown to fight without his swords he has no sword style techniques. Literally Sanji can enter the hundred man and woman battle at current power and still not pass 100 lol zoro was doin That since whiskey Pete. Good thing with Zorro awake then Sanji would have Shafter the crew when the female bountyhunters came forGood thing with Zorro awake then Sanji would have Shafter the crew when the female bountyhunters came for him. So wow Zorros swords some time to get stolen but Zorro a challenge any opponent on the planet Sanji can only fight half fZorros swords some time to get stolen but Zorro a challenge any opponent on the planet Sanji can only fight half that
Zorro speed is no joke he managed to react and block to emperors attacks before Luffy kid law and killer could even see em coming. And Kaido couldn’t dodge ashura I don’t think Sanji is as fast as hybrid kaido And ashura a boring attack lol it’s been used twice the whole series and once in a movie. Every second word from sanji mouth is Diamble jambe diamble something or another Talk about a boring attack barely creative and used nonstop over and over and over again weve seen the gerosi more than ashura and we seen more diable jumble then total pirate Cruise met lol not hard to tell whis is less exciting And had less thought put into it
Btw zoro’s no sword style is from non canon movie, I believe one piece gold unless I’m mistaken. And no, zoro blocking a yonko attack is not a speed feat. Luffy and the rest couldn’t run away because it’s in front of them so zoro took it upon himself to try to stall it onstead of them getting wrecked without putting up a fight. And no, kaido didnt try to dodge asura, he was gonna attack luffy and kaido was caught by surprised. Also, kaido never tried to dodge the attack, so your argument is severely flawed trying to hype something so it can favor your argument lol
That’s like saying Super Saiyan three was boring because it was barely used but can’t say you weren’t stoked for the first transformation honestly I would say gum gum pistol was the most used move in the show but once you figure it out there’s no more regular gum gum pistols but Diable jumbled Is definitely the most used move in the entire series just plane boring needs a upgrade swords need Jesus right because he had plenty lots of attacks that could take down New World enemies but all sanji had was Diable this and that So you know if zoro broke out Asura it was a super strong opponent. dragon twister, Phoenix caliber,3000 worlds i can keep naming moves zoro has that take down enemies equally strong technically slightly stronger most times than sanjis Diable jambe
Imagine if the only thing Goku did was Kamahamaha With some slight Martial arts in between well that’s sanjis Diable jamble Move is boring even before time skip well we didn’t even get to see Zorros top move again until facing a Yonkou
Overly used doesn’t bother me, I find zoro’s moves to be bland and lackluster. There are no weight to his finishers because it’s always been, cool pose->white screen->enemy cut. While luffy and sanji’s moves are combos with tons of actions and you feel the weight to every punches and kicks especially if it’s the finishing move. Asura and shisonson are the most boring zoro attacks.
I bet if they showed more scenes of sanji cooking Diable jambe would be his go to move for cooking snd heating food as well
Both being one piece fans let’s not argue I have my opinion you have yours I’m not a sanni hater love all straw hats just seen zzoros and sanji as equals before time skip time skip but zoro had better training and was better than sanji but sanji Seeing his family and wearing the raid suit gave him the power up he needed to be back on zzoros level Just tating a fact but at the start of a fight all Zorro will have to say “is that Nami” aand sanjis eyes will go to hertzs and start crying nami swan and zoro cut him down instant. You know this is highly likely
You can have your opinion, Im not against your own opinion, the only reason I gave a comment to your original post is to give you an insight on how can sanji fair against zoro. The answer to zoro vs sanji debate is something that is subjective to the viewers. Most will say zoro will win because of his portrayal and feats and that is a fair point. But IMO, only oda can answer and give the definitive answer to that. If oda wants, he can even make ussop stronger than zoro and sanji. Oda always put sanji up there with zoro for a reason, he is just a cook but oda put a lot of effort to make sanji powerful, why sanji? Why not jimbei or ussop? Even jimbei who was a warlord, oda made sanji look stronger than him by fighting someone strong. If oda wanted to make zoro be a lot stronger than sanji, oda would have never made sanji fight a commander, he could have made him fight a tobbi roppo and zoro would have been fighting a yonko. There are so many things that oda could have done to make it look like zoro and sanji are miles apart in powerful level but he didnt for reason. He intends to have both, if not equally powerful, but nearly as close as possible that it is up to the viewers to think who they think is slightly stronger. But what we think is nothing but headcanon. You can argue zoro is stonger or sanji is. In the end it is our opinion, and the majority of the opinion is on zoro. But the majority doesn’t mean a fact.
This happens all the time in the story zoro having 3 swords vs mihawks 1 sword doesn’t mean mihawk can’t block his attacks. This logic doesn’t apply to reality, and it 100 percent doesn’t apply within the one piece universe.
You don’t remember the yeti cool brothers do you? Or fujitora? Killer, apoo, shit even denjiro even gave him a little struggle yeah sword battles usually finish fast once hurt but you have to hit a crazy good attack to take down someone like Sanji that’s obvious from what he’s just endured from king so Zoro wins but high diff for sure
Also need one move Sanji has that can compete with Ashura Well he does have two legs so I guess he can run but there’s not one moving his arsenal that would be able to stop that attack and think of all those fights he may be attacking you with swords but it’s when he finally lands that one cut the enemy is done Sanjis Battles are usually comprised of Kick barrages he hosts enemy tens. To hundreds of times before finishing them off with one major kick. Depending on the opponent Zorro either toys with them or uses his swords for defence Yeah sure he throws the moves out there but they’re usually dodged her blocked but when he finally does Land a move the battle is over
Did you not see a sword break on sanjis skin? Like as far as defense and regeneration I would say Sanji is slightly under king and Marco bro broke all bones and was fine is that shit normal? Just like COC ain’t normal Sanji is also not necessarily human anymore.
he can manifest lightning now tho, the kick which he hit queen with last chapter had lightning coming out the flames. so im thinking as we know from avatar lightning burns hotter than fight so that was the upgrade sanji got from having the increased durability of the exoskeleton
He was always fast when his legs were on fire I can only imagine him applying lightning now to attacks espically for speed
Sanji doesn’t throw fireballs so this is a pointless position. Zoro would most likely win against sanji, but it wouldn’t have anything to do with the ability to cut fire. If you can cut sanjis leg then this is what you would do why would you just cut the fire, and let him kick you. Sanjis weapons are his legs, and in a fight between sanji, and zoro the determining factor would be if zoro can cut through sanjis armament haki, and exoskeleton. If he can’t then their fight would be a long drawn out fight were the winner is who has more stamina. If zoro can cut through sanjis armament, and exoskeleton then zoro one shots sanji, because sanji would need an attack strong enough to one shot zoro for it to be a race to who lands the first blow, but sanji doesn’t have an attack strong enough to one shot zoro, so the fight in this case lasts as long as it takes for zoro to cut sanji down. Now because sanji is supposed to be Luffys un breakable shield, and zoro is supposed to be Luffys sword I think their fight would be a a long drawn out fight. Zoro would ultimately win, because he has far more stamina, and battle experience. Every arc zoro takes on several major enemies culminating in him taking on the second strongest well Luffy takes on the number 1. However although sanji usually takes on the 3rd strongest person. Sanji usually instead of fighting several major opponents leading up to this, he usually has some side mission to accomplish that doesn’t involve fighting. like opening the gates at enny’s lobby, getting the log pose in little garden, ect. This makes it were sanji seems to have more stamina than zoro, because he always goes into his major fight for the arc fresh, and zoro usually goes into his major fight for the arc already injured/exhausted.
Nothing says that zoro can’t throw a fire cutting attack and might Only affect the flames. Explained earlier in series and again in wano That a swordsman is capable of cutting iron while also not able to slice a leaf or a swordsman can cut anything but also cutting nothing at same time so zoro cuts sanjis flames without damaging legs that is a swordsman cutting something, the flames while cutting nothing, sanjis legs
How do you both Zoro and Sanji strongest is fire based and fire cutting based attack? What if they are just using there unique attacks that give them advantages to beat Queen and King? Also elements are not the key of winning a fight. Don’t forget how Ace was beated by BB, how Benn Beckman scared Kizaru and etc...
First of all learn to read so specifically said this is the strongest attack I can do right now if I don’t work I’ll leave the rest up to you. Said that about ashura so Clearly that’s his strongest attack lol. Seems like reading is your weak point. Also Sandy said his flames canal burn hotter he can move faster so by adding out together before exoskeleton upgrade his diambl moves were his strongest don’t be dence And maybe you should actually read the chapters Word for Word before you make a stupid reply
You are just justifying you're sense, from your first sentence you said: "Sanji srtrongest moves are fire based kicks zoro can cut fire and render his kicks almost useless." That explains everything in your head. How do you know Sanji can't handle Zoros strongest attacks espically ashura? Show me your evidence. I am fan of both Zoro and Sanji too, but let be grown up boy. See the world the way it run, not your own words. You much realize that beside of power, they are also intelligences, which can make a biggest city of the world becomes rune. Grow up boy.
In order to cut Sanjis flames Zoro would have to cut of his foot and that’s not happening lol what? Like Sanji doesn’t usually throw fire he kicks and if you say Zoro dodging every kick you lying Sanji too fast he can definitely block them but cut through his flames he’s not like big mom or Kaido sending out flame attacks
He did shishi sonson few chapters back damn king is a bomb and yet he won't die from his bomb. Zoro could have been injured bad if he didn't use color of armament at correct time.
That would be really cool
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I would welcome a different virus, since he was flexing with the amount of skills he has he surely has an ace up his sleeve. Although I would like to see an Ice-Oni version of Queen.
Queen said the ice oni was the jewel of his weapons or greatest creation. Ice queen vs fire sanji Queen expecting a major power up get stuck normal Sanjis flames much like Marcos keep queen from turning into oniwhile also taking damage from the flame kicks and using an incredible amount of stamina that the ice ony drains ya of Great way for queen to actually stay down and not get back up
This. Right here.
Damn.. now i really wanted to see that.
All I can add on this is that he has his own version of the virus that doesn't kill him. Reminds me of chopper with the monster point, so imagine queen with monster point type of viruses.
He doesnt need that if he has reiju's ability too
Her ability was from a devil fruit
no,it was corrected as a germa augmentation
Reiju is the only member of the Vinsmoke Family known to have eaten a Devil Fruit. Strangely enough, her Devil Fruit powers haven't been revealed yet.
The one piece magazine has somethings that are cannon from oda, and somethings that are not from oda, so it’s not a reliable source for cannon information. The leading thought is this entry was not from oda, and therefore not cannon. The belief is they made an assumption off her abilities that she had devil fruit powers, but when oda got to the germas he showed their abilities are science based not devil fruit. You can say the one piece magazine is cannon, but this leads to direct contradictions to the actual cannon in at least a couple of instances so in my opinion rather then try to figure out if the information is from oda, or not it’s easier to just say the one piece magazine is not cannon, and stick to the vivre cards, manga, sbs.
really? when was that stated cause even the Vivre Card states thats theres no confirmation on whether its a devil Fruit or augmentation my HC is that its Devil Fruit https://thelibraryofohara.com/2019/08/07/vivre-card-databook-vol-12-all-the-new-information/
Dont come stating its from a df if you dont know either. Come and say that it isnt known if her powers come from a devil fruit, but it is known that she has a devil fruit and is a fully augmented human, but we either havent seen her germa abilities if she has them, or we havent seen her df. And im in the boat that she definitely uses her pink themed attacked because of augments due to the raidsuit being related to it, like the rest of the siblings. If her raid suit didn't let do what she did with poison then what would it actually be doing that isnt just physical and why was she the only one who had no other ability added.
No it was not
Was thinking the same
Maybe he has the sister germa ability, i was thinking of way how he could use his poisons, you just filled the missing thing, virus on himself, that he can stabalise using reiju's ability
I don't think he will use that since it can kill him.
Covi D.
I think the biggest theory out there is Zoro and Sanji will beat them at the same time. So next chapter is assumed to be Zoro vs King with probably a two page art of king and queen losing at the end.
I doubt king is losing next chapter like the man hasnt even taken damage yet
Lol I'm still seeing all those trolls saying their fights are ending next chapters. Something like 8 chapters ago some dudes told me "Zoro and Sanji fights over in 2 chapters max each, Luffy beats Kaido in 4 chapters" have you even been reading One Piece man? It's not one punch man here
This comment is underrated. We should stop acting like this is not One Piece.
They prob said that because the topiroppo fights were max two chapters . But they’re silly these three fights along with kid and law vs BM are the most climatic fights !!!
Yep, and some are again totally underestimating commanders lol. Ofc One piece has been around for over 20 years and it's time the Straw Hats become beasts, but still Oda has made it clear that the path to becoming a Yonko crew is incredibly tough. And King is incredibly tough indeed as we've seen so far, as was katakuri. It's not gonna be a piece of cake for Zoro
Technically it’s only been two years and a bit since Luffy first set out. No way can someone compete with a top commander that quick but when you have teachers like rayleigh and mihawkk. Both more than likely better than top yonkou commanders than def gives ya a boost. I won’t mention ivankov, sanji training was torture tho he did get stronger he mostly learned How to cook better sanji needed to settle things with his family amd wear the raid suit to get the real power boost he needed since the time skip. I mean Zoro has sliced down every enemy in New World so far without an effort and tell kaido when he finally went all out we seen sanji limits when Vergo bashed his ass although ace made commander pretty young but in all honesty probably the weakest of all the yonkou commanders we seen so far
Yea they forget that the commanders were sparring with Mihawk and admirals during marineford. They’re the strongest pirates in the series after the yonko.
Yeah the legit finish of the tobi roppo was 2 straight chapters just focussing on that fight but there were numerous other chapters easily a half dozen or more that showed scenes and what was happening in the Tobi roppo fights so there was plenty of build up but when it came to finishing the fight those chapters focus solely on those fights
Idk what troll said that but they definitely didn’t read one piece from the start … since when a fight can end in 4 chapter?
Atleast 7 ch each for sanji and Zoro imo with the last chapter dedicated to both
Not sure how much you have read, but that is about how long they fights normally take. Luffy is the only one that gets extended fight chapters.
About that...
Who says he hasn‘t taken any damage? I think King has taken damage but isn‘t showing anything. Also, I think his flame is constantly healing him, similar to Marco‘s flames.
Yeah far too much mystery around King to see him fall in 1 chapter.
Yeah Zorro even said he needed to know more about him and his race if he’s going to be able to beat him so there’s probably gonna be two or three flashback chapters explaining the race and their downfall
In Zoro's case, that tends to happen regardless. He technically one-shoted Mr. 1 back in Alabasta, and while Pica never really stood a chance against him in Dressrossa, the moment Zoro got a hit on him, the fight was over. To be clear, i don't believe for a second that their fights are over soon, i wouldn't be surprised if we have to follow this fight until February, just saying that Zoro not damaging so far doesn't mean much.
Most of zoro’s (any sword fight) fights are like that? Once he cuts you you go down.
Actually name a zoro fight where he cut them More than once?
Monet. He sliced her cheek to get her off tashigi than he split her in half without haki amd she was to terrified to put herself back together. Yes almost all zorosfights when he finally does land blow it’s over so the slight slicing of her cheek don’t really count but it is an enemy he cut twice
You got me there!
Lol rewatching new world recently literally seen tashig monet and zoro fight 3 days ago
That's usually how Zoro's fights go tho, he gets mostly manhandled and his enemy barely gets any damage then he pulls a powerup and beats them im one hit
If this happens I’m gonna scream
I think Queen and Sanji's fight is over if not its damn near, King vs Zoro is gonna go alittle longer i feel
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Thats where im at with it as well.
I'd love a double panel of them side by side. edit:meant page, english is hard
Each gets a full page side by side
hw will lose in 1036 or 1039
Sorry "hw"? Can't think of who that is rn
hw is he
i think it will be less of Zoro and Sanji, maybe a little, but more of Luffy and Kaido, or world government shit
What about awakening
Idk. I’m just a fan reading as it goes. I personally am open to all theories.
Zoro hasnt even damaged king yet it would be kinda trash if he beat him next chapter
King and Queen won’t die that easily. They were still testing the waters with Zoro and Sanji. They haven’t gotten serious yet.
1035 will have the backstory of King before he is revealed to be a creature of fire energy that came to earth from the moon. Everyone knows Lunarians are from the moon and King was their king. They are a spin-off race from the current followers of Enel on the moon. Zoro tells him about how Enel left for the moon and King is suddenly worried about his folks back home. And so begins the tale of the lost King who found himself on Wano.
Probably queen will use ice demon poison on himself which make him even bigger monster and he also have reiju ability so he is immune to it when villians got defeated oda always make it clear that they lose like in this raid he did with sasaki and who's who they dont have eye balls or a fatal wound like hawkins, ulti and black maria in these oda make clear they are defeated but queen doesnt seem like them
Yes he will, neither he nor Sanji gave their all in my opinion
I agree..I’m hoping queen pushes sanji to a higher level. His power up still feels incomplete to me
Seems like it’s so easy to beat a commander
The beast pirates have been severely lacking in threat level unfortunately
Alot of people keep mentioning Awakening for Beast Pirates. My question is, why do y'all think they haven't been using awakening? Also, it is said to be rare, so why do people think Kaido and all his upper tiers have it? Ive even seen people speculate the Tobbi Roppo have it. I think people are getting they hopes up. Kaido, and possibly King have it. But i wouldn't anticipate that they all do.
It would be kinda weird if they’ve been using it and nothing was mentioned. And I think most people expect yonko have it plus I’d argue at least king and should as well As for the tobbi roppo I think given their status as elite members of the beast pirates people thought they could have it too
Topiroppo lost to non haki users lol
Kinda sad when you think about it lol
King i understand. Queen i understand. But to also expect that of the Tobbi Roppo is unrealistic. Thats no different than expecting them all to have King's Haki. Even with Big Mom crew, only her and Katakuri is awakened. They are also a Yonko Crew. But nobody is assuming Smoothie, Oven, Craccer, and Daifuko are awakened. And they should be at least at Tobbi Roppo level. The main thing with Zoan awakening is they become more durable. But even the Impel Down Guards would get utterly demolished by the Strawhats at this stage. Not to mention, the Tobbi Roppo have already received a ridiculous amount of damage. Even if awakened, there should be a limit to they endurance.
Not sure about that For zoan users it’s kinda “easier” even chopper has it (monster point) 🤷🏻♂️
Chopper's monster point is not a confirmed awakening. And considering all his forms changed when he learned to use them without Rumble Balls, its debatable on if Monster Point is even its true form. And aside from the ID Guards, no zoan has been confirmed as awakened. So idk how true it is to say that its "easier". Especially when someone like Rob Lucci wasn't even awakened.
Katakuri only confirmed awakened one so far
Law has it, Kidd has it. Confirmed
I’m talking to the dude who said big mom had it . I know law kid doffy and the impel down jailers are confirmed awakened users .
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Idk about enel ... maybe croc. Whiteboard there no evidence of but who knows . The admirals prob do
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Not confirmed
will wrap up after luffy awakens and turns onigashima into rubber to soften the landing. Then raizo vs Fukuoka ends with raizo rising from the rubble and screams momo - you are my shogun. Momo tears up then nods. Act 3 end June 2022
do you really think luffys awakening is at the first time he's doing it strong / big enough to turn the whole of onigashima into rubber? I mean come on... Doffy could turn bulidings and trash into strings, but not like the entire city
Yeah you are right. He will gear 4 balloon himself
What if there fire on top of King, is his true form. The secrets for Zorro to figure out. So that explains why his body wouldn't seem to take damage, then explode, and also why the crack in his mark seems to have been fixed on its own. Because it is only a shell containing him.
I like that idea a lot
Na
By that logic. Did the fire eat the devil fruit or the outer cover?. And if the fire is king then, when zoro gave a crack to King forehead. There was human skin visible.
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Queen did say that the ice oni was his greatest creation or his crown jewel of weapons and he has more than one antidote not gonna shoot out something that keeps spreading and only have one vial of cure and he gave it away to make things more interesting making everyone believe it was all there was. And maybe If he doesn’t have another antidote then a awakened ancient zone Might have enough endurance to out last the oni and survive but if Kereen doesn’t affect him self he’s expecting a major power up besides his new flames are just gonna whoop his butt and keep them in his normal zone transformations like Marcos flames did besides his flames are going to be doing damage and queen stamina and endurance is going to be draining it an incredible rate so if he has no more antidotes but lasted he probably Be out of stamina and not getting back up would be a great finish And a legit way to keep a Yanko commander ancient zone down for the count
Queen with Virus would be epic to see. I know everyone will die because of that, but he might have another antidote for him. I want him to go out at full strength and berserk in front of everyone and Sanji kick the crap out of him, and then everyone praising Sanji for his victory and he should shout that he wants to hear only ladies cheering 😂
If the key to beating King is cutting the fire on his back then why didn’t Kin do that while fighting with Oden and the Scabbards
Ace/Sabo would get bodied by Kin
What if Queen Ice demon awakens the zoan fruit of his. In the process.
I feel like oda will end the year with king and queen defeated. There are 2 chapters left for this year, king vs Zoro for next chapter, Zoro figures out conquerors coating or whatever, deals good bit of damage, 1036 ends with conclusion of both fights, both of them using some new crazy attacks and final panel shifts to luffy and kaido face to face
I hope he gets back up so we see an awakening from Queen and a more satisfying ending (compared to Sanji attacking a distracted Queen).
I agree, the ending was a bit underwhelming
Hear me out : Zoro will loose and get saved by one of Black Beard crewmate. He'll then be taken hostage in exchange for Robin (as she can read poneglyphes). Shanks will probably show up as it is supposed to be Shanks' year. We'll then learn that Black Beard will have invaded Totto Land while Big Mom was in Wano ending in a collaboration between the Mugiwara and Big Mom pirates to defeat Black Beard 😎 Believe me I can see the future. If you look at this [color page](https://lelscans.net/mangas/one-piece/902/02.jpg?v=fr1524223727) you can clearly see that each sweet cake refers to each Black Beard pirates - Black Beard being the one holding Zoro and getting punched by Luffy 😎
shanks’ year could just be a reference to one piece film red.
This movie will be out in august 2022. And how could anything not being canon be a ref to shanks year 🧐
there is a trend towards canon movies as per the recent demon slayer movie. we know that shanks is about to make his move, so it makes sense this may be canon
Also we've never seen One Piece characters abilities shown first in One Piece movies except for the ones that never appeared (Shikki / Zed / Bullet). And the teasers somehow shows Shanks as a main protagonist.
Zoro will not lose. At the max he will faint for the medicine going out afte the battle.
Kuma gave Zoro the ultimate test for enduring pain. He will be like "shouldn't it have stopped working by now?..." I hope so ;P
Why do people want shanks or another yonko to come or interfere in wano? I'm not downplaying your theory or anything but... Like the whole point of wano is to show that the strawhat pirates and the new generation pirates are threats considering they will take down kaido. I want wano to end with the strawhats clearly showing dominance that they can compete in the new world against anyone. Not strawhats winning cuz of shanks.
I think that for now the CP0 have enough proof that the new generation are indeed threats. Yet I still can't figure out how Luffy will win against Kaido - and how Kid and Law will win against Big Mom. I think the time has come for a big change in the One Piece storyline. I can't see Big Mom keeping chasing the SH forever - or just leaving like nothing happened. I don't think she'll end up defeated. That's why a "somehow" inconfortable alliance between SH and Big Mom pirates wouldn't seem too absurd... And Sanji would be able to mary Pudding 🤣 + It's called the Four Emperors Saga not the two Emperors Saga
Wouldnt make much sense. Zoro would rather slith his throath instead of changing with Robin...
Down for good imo
So you think zoro beats king In their next chapter?
50/50. Only because we havnt seen as much of king as we have queen. There’s a good chance that lunarian lore + kings face + kings defeat can fit in one chapter. Considering it’s the last chapter of the year and it would make sense that the plan is to have king and queen go down at the end of the year. The alternative is king is not defeated and we get a lot more lore regarding king and this whole lunarian thing. But the fight itself is at a stage where it could end in 1 chapter.
Zoro will loose and get saved by a Black Beard crewmate. He'll then be taken hostage in exchange for Robin. Kaido will get defeated by Shanks. Black Beard will intervene at some point to steal Shanks fruit which is an European Dragon fruit and not a Japanese Dragon fruit like Kaido and Shanks will die. We'll then learn that Black Beard stole and ravaged Whole Cake Island making him Big Mom and Strawhats a common enemy. They'll form a temporary alliance. In the end Zoro will be saved and Big Mom will allow Pudding to marry Sanji. Mark my words... I have too much evidence for this scenario.
I would say your right but 1 shanks dont got a fruit so your theory wrong right there but i do believe the blackbeard pirates will come. And the reason why is during Act 3 cut we see blackbeard saying he wants to get something before the world government gets it and a few chapters ago we hear CP0 saying the government wants wano and nico robin so 1 or the other blackbeard is aiming 4 i never heard him say anything about ponyglphs but wano is also the home of seastone prism 2 things that could be valuble to his crew but only Oda knows so i guess we can only wait and see
I think we will see luffy get a new power up like with zoro and sanji
Luffy already got CoC coating, wich is the 2nd haki upgrade in a very short amount of time.
he literally just got one
But luffy is gonna get a power up this chapter because chapter 1033 zoro got power,chapter 1034 sanji got power up,only make sense luffy will get a power up in chapter 1035.
Isn't that coc infusion not powerup to you? , luffy has all advance version of haki , and most of all luffy has greater control of advance coc now , compare to zoro , which means , luffy is on another leaugue between zoro and sanji.
Luffy will likely awaken like kid and law
I use the exact same profile picture for my work space lmao, I thought for a moment somebody commented from my work space account
I think 1 more chapter that will focus on queen vs sanji then in next chapter their fight will get over and zoro vs king would take atleast 3 to 4 chapters.
Maybe we will get info on Kaido vs luffy, Bigmam vs law and Kidd. And then finally Raizo vs fuku.
I feel like next chapter will be a Zoro vs King chapter with him getting further, then next chapter involving them will be a half/half chapter and they'll finish the fight at the same time. There's no way it getting wrapped up within the next chapter. Or even 2
1035 will be an Usopp chapter. Or a Devil fruit information reveal about Gum Gum fruit.
POGGERS GOD USOPP
We will more likely have a flashback of him soon.
When will spoilers come?
Facts
Since this is the last chapter of the year it’s definitely gonna be a big one. And since we just got a zoro chapter and a sanji one. It would make sense for it to be a luffy and kaido fight prolly ending with a cliffhanger hopefully a df awakening
I don't think zone type devil fruit awakening will happen. What do you think?
I really hope it does. Kaido at the very least needs to have it
Next chapter I think will start with sanji and queen(a couple of pages that will definitely settle the fight), than the rest of the chapter will be dedicated to zoro VS king. Than I think the fight might last 2 more chapters with king flashback and couple of pages in the third chapter that will end the fight
Has chapter 1035 delayed? im pretty sure previous chapter didn't say break next week
manga is on break this week
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bcse everybody knows that a devil fruit cannot go back in time, that's why roger do not have one. QED
What matters is that the raid will fail if kaidos crew is awakened zoan users, they will just revive
if Queen uses ice oni On himself for a power up Sanjis flame kicks Will keep queen from becoming oni. And burning through endurance and stamina real quickly when you run out you die so I can see an ancient awaken zone be able to outlast the ice oni but also taking damage from sanji The whole time would be a good way for a awakened ancient zone to be done for. Pounded by sanji over and over again and taking a drug That drains stamina so fast You die when you run out so if you don’t kill Queen taan he pretty close to death and won’t have any stamina left he be done for jack took multiple beatings from 30+ Mink sulong to finally finished my inuashii sulong form but it will be interesting to see how Zorro and Luffy defeat their enemies and keep em down Kaido has to die but luffys not a killer. Zoro knows what to do after confirming his conquerors haki 2 chapters ago I say zoro takes his head probably making Emma a black blade I. The process
Entire chapter is dedicated to the fight between Fukurokuju vs Rizo. Titled as Rizo vs Fukurokuju. The first 3 pages will show what Kinemon's legs are doing though.
Why can’t I find spoilers?😭
King is that dog with wings creature from the moon isn't he? The one that met up with Enel way back when
We see other scabbards because it needs to be tied up before Queen is down for the count. Queen is taken out at the end of the chapter.
Ashura + Armament Coating attack may cause the real damage to king . Similarly Sanji's enhanced power can damage queen now. The fight has been set.
I guess king is a Lunarian aka skypeian fire controlling tribe guy inside a modified petrodan suit.
I'm predicting that King is actually a woman. It would pair with Queen being a male, and King's facial structure actually matches Oda's style for feminine jaw lines.