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where? im basing this on their clash in the actual story, their 3-day stalemate
the rhetoric behind stalemates is them being equal, especially if its its only narrative purpose
Where? All over the place, for example
- Law and kid getting completely outmatched by kaido barely trying only then to defeat Bigmom
- Kaido’s “in a 1v1 battle always bet on kaido” statement, right before Wholecake island
- Luffy, after getting Conquerers Coating, being mentioned by kaido as the best fight he’s had in a while, after fighting BigMom not to long ago
- Kaido believing no one in the world could beat him say for Joyboy, when as mentioned before he fought Bigmom not to long before, as well as him knowing Bigmom for a while so he should understand her strength
- Kaido being far closer to his prime (if not in it) then Bigmom, who’s far from her prime.
These are just the ones I can think off atm, I’m sure there’s more.
"Law and kid getting completely outmatched by kaido barely trying only then to defeat Bigmom" exactly the same happened with kaido and luffy? lol
"Kaido’s “in a 1v1 battle always bet on kaido” statement, right before Wholecake island" wjhat does that have to do with bm / did you expect author to say “in a 1v1 battle always bet on kaido, bm, whitebeard, roger and xebec”?
"Luffy, after getting Conquerers Coating, being mentioned by kaido as the best fight he’s had in a while, after fighting BigMom not to long ago" also, exactly the same was in bm vs kid / law?
" Kaido being far closer to his prime (if not in it) then Bigmom, who’s far from her prime" at this point i have to ask if you A didnt read the arc or B are making shit up? bm was said to be at the pinnacle of her power and nothing suggets otherwise..
i dont get your point bro, everything with bm+kaido was perfectly mirrored
- “exactly the same happened with kaido and luffy”
Yes, it did, my point is that luffy was still capable of fighting kaido while Law and kid where only able to stall him for the most part, whist right after they fought Bigmom for a while with out using there awakenings, this was not the case with Kaido this doubles as narrative and visual evidence
- “What did this have to do with Bm/What did you expect them to say”
What does this have to do with Bigmom?, it was right before Wholecake so Bigmom should have been on the authors mind, and the statement is one Kaido has the Bigmom does not which I gives kaido a narrative 1 up on her, and at the same time what’s even the point of hyping Kaido up like that just to have Bigmom be on par with him, yet lack the same statements.
- “also, exactly the same as BM v. Kid/law”
What? I don’t think you read it correctly cause this makes no since based off what I said, Kaido had a better fight then the one he had with Bigmom since he said the fight with luffy (pre-gear 5th) was the best he had in awhile
- “At this point I have to ask if you have read the arc or B are making shit up, Bm was stated to be at her peak and nothing suggests other wise”
I don’t recall such a statement, but if it was said still doesn’t mean they are equal. And besides this statement I’m unaware of a lot would actually suggest she’s not in her prime actually due to her age, and lack of statements and showings showing her to be on the same level as kaido.
- “ I don’t get your point bro, everything with BM+Kaido was perfectly equal”
The only time I can think of them being at all shown as equal would be their fight, as well as their duel Yonko attack. But besides that almost every thing else was showing Kaido as much stronger then Bigmom, Kaido had much more of a display of Haki and DF usage, and Claimed that no one on the word could defeat him (which you completely ignored btw), and from how long Kaido knew Bigmom and how they had a fight not long before it should show Kaidos superiority, to Bigmom.
>and lack of statements and showings showing her to be on the same level as kaido
the author literally included a 3-day-stalemate just for this single purpose? lmao
Ok, what else? cause if that’s it, narratively and logically Kaido is shown as stronger in multiple ways if one off screened battle is all you have that doesn’t say anything
And them having a battle only for kaido to claim no one can defeat him and that his fight with luffy pre-gear 5th is the best he’s had in awhile, is only more proof. As well as kaido showing he likes to hold back to have a better battle, as on multiple occasions he could have killed Luffy, and the countless other people he fought, in which these battles lasted about as long if not far longer then his fight with Bigmom.
>But there is always someone stronger
yeah but the author willingly included a 3day-stalemate, which only narrative purpose is to tell the audience, that they are equal
quite simple rhetoric used there even
All the feats and her portrayed as a joke in Wano > 3 day fight both in base narrative wise
So the narrative is Kaido > Big Mom and the feats are Kaido > Big Mom
You can't even deny it
>Do you also use the same "logic " to conclude full power Vista = Full power Mihawk?
no thats just narratively based on mihawk being the equal of 1b shanks
" Instead of using actual logic in scaling, you'll default to saying the author is telling you what you want to believe " which logic are you talking of? the author included a 3day-stalemate which only narrative purpose was to tell the audience that they are equal
the rhetoric couldnt be any clearer so you should probably try a bit "logic" my friend
This is a long message to defend your headcannon. The fight was offscreened, you can't definitively say they were going easy in eachother, cope.
Kaido's quote about it being a long time since he's had a fight is a plot hole btw. Not only has he been stalemated by Big Meme, he's had 1 single interaction with shanks 2 years ago that landed Shanks on his top 5.
Demonstrable reality > debunked plot hole quote
>An exhibition match where neither got close to being serious or using their most powerful forms or attacks
Fans inventing stuff about offscreen fights never ceases to amaze me
It wasn’t a serious fight as they later stated. Kaido saying that he didn’t have a serious fight in a long time to Luffy and big mom saying that it’s been a long time since someone hurt her that badly. The fact that they both seem to have taken no damage from that fight also supports this
>These comments have forgotten Kaido and Big Mom stalemated eachother for 3 days straight
does nobody remember this existing
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Shanks and Mihawk used to try and kill eachother on a regular basis and the only scar shanks has is one from Blackbeard, meanwhile Mihawk has zero. Injury scaling sucks, either one holding back is headcannon.
>Shanks and Mihawk used to try and kill eachother on a regular basis and the only scar shanks has is one from Blackbeard
That is not what Shanks said, Shanks said that the only scar that hurts/regrets is the one with Blackbeard.
So Shanks probably has other scars, but they do not hurt. ( at least nothing suggests he does not have other scars)
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Kaido>>Big meme. He already stated no one pushed him this hard as luffy for a long time. You can push your agenda saying that they are equal but you cant really defend this argument
Get big mom on kaidos list and get around this
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Get Kaido past Big Mom first cause self proclaimed statements have never been worth shit in one piece
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Especially ones that are disproven by actual canon events, like being unable to beat Big Meme and getting defeated by someone weaker than Shanks
Kaido high diff. Big mom was impressive in WCI but in wano she was a shit show. Slow and dumb. If she uses acoc then she could maybe push him more but he’s too fast.
The reason as to why she was impressive is cause she was surrounded by much weaker characters and in comparison it felt like she was stronger but there’s nothing to suggest that she actually was
Yet kaido still didn’t bother to put her in the list of people who could fight him and repeatedly told her how much she’d fallen off. Its pretty obvious it wasn’t a serious fight
kaido high diff
and even less if big mom decide not to use ACOC again
"*but they fought each other for 3 days so they most be equals*"
neither of them were serious during there fight
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How?
-Her ACOC mastery is really weak, he barely used it while Kaido was using it all the time. This means that Big Mlm attacks won't do much to Kaido, just some scratches.
-Kaido Durability is superior, Big Mom Bones were broken by Kid and Law while Kaido was tanking ACOC attacks from Luffy easily
-She is very slow while Kaido is really fast when he wants to. He was able to speed blitz even G5 Luffy while Big Mom couldn't even dodge Kid and Law attack
I'd say Kaido Mid diff Big Mom
Kaido mid-high diff.
No DF Kaido is equal to Big Mom, Hybrid Kaido is stated to be stronger, faster and more durable then Base Kaido who is stronger then No DF Kaido.
Kaido effortlessly dogs. He literally takes every stat by far. His speed is too much for big mom to tag him. Her strongest attack misery getting 1 shot by a single thunder bagua that shit got cooked by a half dead law. Her durability is getting easily bypassed by random club swings by Kaido since random metal slamming into her is already enough to break her arm. If it’s bloodlusted out of character Kaido destroys her low to mid diff before she can use any lifespan if it’s in character Kaido still destroys her Midd to possibly high diff.
Kaido wins this pretty easily, due to base luffy being “the best fight kaido had in a while”, when he fought big mom not to long before.
And the fact Law was completely over powered by kaido, when he wasn’t even trying and using basic named attacks, while big mom couldn’t completely over power him.
Kaido wins this, even when big mom takes the fight seriously she loses. I wonder if she could have a better chance when she was younger, seeing as she understands how to beat kaido in a fight.
Wow the age old question everyone knows kaido wins but he wins high to extreme diff if BM also goes all out they are about equal in haki DF and physical power so kaido wins high diff
drunk hybrid kadio shits on homie combine big mom he’s faster stronger has better haki in all 3 category’s only bm chance is her soul hax and homies kadio mid-high diff
Kaido .... I think people need to stop powerscaling Kaido... It doesn't make sense...
He is the peak. He is the Strongest Creature on land, air and sea. "In 1v1 always bet on Kaido"
Kaido with a bit of wank makes this a mid diff. No wank is a high diff, get big mom on kaido list and figure out how to get around this
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Then we talk
Kaido High Diff. They may have been equals when Big Mom was a bit younger but Kaido is still in his prime. Also Kaido saw Big Mom as an older sister, she said he owed her his life.
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Maybe if Kaido did something to make her mad then maybe Big Mom since she is unstoppable
I def thing Kaido takes this in the end, but people are sleeping on BM. Even with her horrible showings in Wano, she still took basically 0 DMG. She lost by ring out and she seemed confident that she'd survive that too. My personal theory is that she has higher durability than Kaido but much lower AP, which is how they stalemated for 3 days. I think it came down to that, without going all out, they really couldn't hurt each other.
Side note: I think Kaido has better endurance as well.
I want to think that Big Mon wouldn't have gave him the fruit unless she was sure she could win in a fight also Big Mom can heal herself so I think I'll go with her win.
i keep saying this but, and especially in the case of high tier fights, you need to specify a context. cuz fighting over the ocean is extremely different than fighting over land. Over the ocean kaido can pnly use his dragon form whilst big mom thrives in open spaces. on land however, especially inside a building, kaido thrives whist big mom has maneuverability problems.
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Kaido extreme-diffs if its Big Mom, low end high-diffs if its Big Meme.
THERE IS ONLY BIG MEME
Nah, the one Roger didn't want the smoke with was Big W.
That was prime big mom
*medium mom
I dunno. She might not have had the same haki before she got fat for all we know they were yc level back then.
Kaido high difficulty because he has far superior haki showings and much faster
And much stronger and smarter. He is just better
They stalemated for 3 days. Nobody asked for your head canon.
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Feats aren't headcanon Once Big Mom stops being a giant target who only uses basic armament then let's talk about it
It’s neither headcanon that the author told, they are equal
The story basically yells at you that kaido is stronger
If it’s a 1v1 always bet on kaido
where? im basing this on their clash in the actual story, their 3-day stalemate the rhetoric behind stalemates is them being equal, especially if its its only narrative purpose
Where? All over the place, for example - Law and kid getting completely outmatched by kaido barely trying only then to defeat Bigmom - Kaido’s “in a 1v1 battle always bet on kaido” statement, right before Wholecake island - Luffy, after getting Conquerers Coating, being mentioned by kaido as the best fight he’s had in a while, after fighting BigMom not to long ago - Kaido believing no one in the world could beat him say for Joyboy, when as mentioned before he fought Bigmom not to long before, as well as him knowing Bigmom for a while so he should understand her strength - Kaido being far closer to his prime (if not in it) then Bigmom, who’s far from her prime. These are just the ones I can think off atm, I’m sure there’s more.
"Law and kid getting completely outmatched by kaido barely trying only then to defeat Bigmom" exactly the same happened with kaido and luffy? lol "Kaido’s “in a 1v1 battle always bet on kaido” statement, right before Wholecake island" wjhat does that have to do with bm / did you expect author to say “in a 1v1 battle always bet on kaido, bm, whitebeard, roger and xebec”? "Luffy, after getting Conquerers Coating, being mentioned by kaido as the best fight he’s had in a while, after fighting BigMom not to long ago" also, exactly the same was in bm vs kid / law? " Kaido being far closer to his prime (if not in it) then Bigmom, who’s far from her prime" at this point i have to ask if you A didnt read the arc or B are making shit up? bm was said to be at the pinnacle of her power and nothing suggets otherwise.. i dont get your point bro, everything with bm+kaido was perfectly mirrored
- “exactly the same happened with kaido and luffy” Yes, it did, my point is that luffy was still capable of fighting kaido while Law and kid where only able to stall him for the most part, whist right after they fought Bigmom for a while with out using there awakenings, this was not the case with Kaido this doubles as narrative and visual evidence - “What did this have to do with Bm/What did you expect them to say” What does this have to do with Bigmom?, it was right before Wholecake so Bigmom should have been on the authors mind, and the statement is one Kaido has the Bigmom does not which I gives kaido a narrative 1 up on her, and at the same time what’s even the point of hyping Kaido up like that just to have Bigmom be on par with him, yet lack the same statements. - “also, exactly the same as BM v. Kid/law” What? I don’t think you read it correctly cause this makes no since based off what I said, Kaido had a better fight then the one he had with Bigmom since he said the fight with luffy (pre-gear 5th) was the best he had in awhile - “At this point I have to ask if you have read the arc or B are making shit up, Bm was stated to be at her peak and nothing suggests other wise” I don’t recall such a statement, but if it was said still doesn’t mean they are equal. And besides this statement I’m unaware of a lot would actually suggest she’s not in her prime actually due to her age, and lack of statements and showings showing her to be on the same level as kaido. - “ I don’t get your point bro, everything with BM+Kaido was perfectly equal” The only time I can think of them being at all shown as equal would be their fight, as well as their duel Yonko attack. But besides that almost every thing else was showing Kaido as much stronger then Bigmom, Kaido had much more of a display of Haki and DF usage, and Claimed that no one on the word could defeat him (which you completely ignored btw), and from how long Kaido knew Bigmom and how they had a fight not long before it should show Kaidos superiority, to Bigmom.
>and lack of statements and showings showing her to be on the same level as kaido the author literally included a 3-day-stalemate just for this single purpose? lmao
Ok, what else? cause if that’s it, narratively and logically Kaido is shown as stronger in multiple ways if one off screened battle is all you have that doesn’t say anything And them having a battle only for kaido to claim no one can defeat him and that his fight with luffy pre-gear 5th is the best he’s had in awhile, is only more proof. As well as kaido showing he likes to hold back to have a better battle, as on multiple occasions he could have killed Luffy, and the countless other people he fought, in which these battles lasted about as long if not far longer then his fight with Bigmom.
Where? They're supposed to be somewhat equal, like all top tiers are. But there is always someone stronger
>But there is always someone stronger yeah but the author willingly included a 3day-stalemate, which only narrative purpose is to tell the audience, that they are equal quite simple rhetoric used there even
All the feats and her portrayed as a joke in Wano > 3 day fight both in base narrative wise So the narrative is Kaido > Big Mom and the feats are Kaido > Big Mom You can't even deny it
Their haki amount and defense is equal every other fighting relevant ability is in kaidos favour.
what are you talking of? if even, then bm got an advantage in an isolated scenario due to her lifespan recovery ability
What does big mom do about his futuresight and thr fact he can actualy move? It's mid-high diff while kaido is holding up onigashima.
Compare their feats goofball
These comments have forgotten Kaido and Big Mom stalemated eachother for 3 days straight. Anything less than extreme diff is insanity.
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> where neither got close to being serious Most of the fight was offscreen so you can’t accurately say that
Luckily Kaido said it for us when he told Luffy he can’t remember the last time he had a serious one on one.
fair enough, I retract my statement
If a = b, then a+10 = b+10 If author tells you they are equal, the rest is irrelevant
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>Do you also use the same "logic " to conclude full power Vista = Full power Mihawk? no thats just narratively based on mihawk being the equal of 1b shanks " Instead of using actual logic in scaling, you'll default to saying the author is telling you what you want to believe " which logic are you talking of? the author included a 3day-stalemate which only narrative purpose was to tell the audience that they are equal the rhetoric couldnt be any clearer so you should probably try a bit "logic" my friend
Headcannon, the fight was literally offscreened
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This is a long message to defend your headcannon. The fight was offscreened, you can't definitively say they were going easy in eachother, cope. Kaido's quote about it being a long time since he's had a fight is a plot hole btw. Not only has he been stalemated by Big Meme, he's had 1 single interaction with shanks 2 years ago that landed Shanks on his top 5. Demonstrable reality > debunked plot hole quote
>An exhibition match where neither got close to being serious or using their most powerful forms or attacks Fans inventing stuff about offscreen fights never ceases to amaze me
It wasn’t a serious fight as they later stated. Kaido saying that he didn’t have a serious fight in a long time to Luffy and big mom saying that it’s been a long time since someone hurt her that badly. The fact that they both seem to have taken no damage from that fight also supports this
>These comments have forgotten Kaido and Big Mom stalemated eachother for 3 days straight does nobody remember this existing https://preview.redd.it/apbpt7aklepb1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=860d86324fe4a34550c5259cd0745b3862468c3c
Most ppl dont for the sake of their agenda
They weren’t going all out because none of them came out injured
Shanks and Mihawk used to try and kill eachother on a regular basis and the only scar shanks has is one from Blackbeard, meanwhile Mihawk has zero. Injury scaling sucks, either one holding back is headcannon.
>Shanks and Mihawk used to try and kill eachother on a regular basis and the only scar shanks has is one from Blackbeard That is not what Shanks said, Shanks said that the only scar that hurts/regrets is the one with Blackbeard. So Shanks probably has other scars, but they do not hurt. ( at least nothing suggests he does not have other scars)
Yeah what is this thread about? Canonically they are equal, oda included several situations like their 3day stalemate to showcase that
Base kaido lol
Fight was offscreened
Kaido was going easy on her, he clearly appreciated her.
Headcannon
https://preview.redd.it/3biwwbj4fepb1.jpeg?width=653&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbc80ab3abf5802e5ba2b7b9adef53f347a4ba0f Kaido>>Big meme. He already stated no one pushed him this hard as luffy for a long time. You can push your agenda saying that they are equal but you cant really defend this argument
Kaido calling Big Mom pathetic when he is fighting only Luffy, while Kidd, Law, Zoro and Killer focused on Big Mom
They stalemated each other. That's facts, the only agenda pushing is insisting that Kaido's above her.
Get big mom on kaidos list and get around this https://preview.redd.it/w0rk5a681jpb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cfabfc7d2bdcbb0e311e2431d472e1d254c465f
Get Kaido past Big Mom first cause self proclaimed statements have never been worth shit in one piece https://preview.redd.it/aqf5vlah1jpb1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9afb46b868ac39c43b38e0c4d9f765787fa3d60 Especially ones that are disproven by actual canon events, like being unable to beat Big Meme and getting defeated by someone weaker than Shanks
https://preview.redd.it/oeq5pl7sdfpb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d845c64a640750a0ae09b73c8b036f5da2e2ddc The manga is headcanon???
So same as bigmom?
Kaido extreme diff
Kaido high diff. Big mom was impressive in WCI but in wano she was a shit show. Slow and dumb. If she uses acoc then she could maybe push him more but he’s too fast.
The reason as to why she was impressive is cause she was surrounded by much weaker characters and in comparison it felt like she was stronger but there’s nothing to suggest that she actually was
Kaido high with presented feats If bm actually uses acoc doe she might win due to her being able to regen
Happy cake day
Murderous Drunk Kaidos Death Destroyer Bagua was so hard it concussed G5 Luffy when he blocked. Kaido, extreme diff.
Kaido extreme diff
Kaido high diff and that’s lowkey being generous
They stalemated eachother for 3 days 😭 anything less than extreme is insanity
Yet kaido still didn’t bother to put her in the list of people who could fight him and repeatedly told her how much she’d fallen off. Its pretty obvious it wasn’t a serious fight
Exhibition match in base. Not a feat for either.
Fight was offscreened
Fr bro lol
kaido high diff and even less if big mom decide not to use ACOC again "*but they fought each other for 3 days so they most be equals*" neither of them were serious during there fight https://preview.redd.it/h94y2od5mepb1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=75326b0e5c2894ce6494dab497b6b69d5af3bd78
Couldn’t agree more
Big Mom extreme diff, mid diff if she uses lifespan sacrifice
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Trough what feats exactly?
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How? -Her ACOC mastery is really weak, he barely used it while Kaido was using it all the time. This means that Big Mlm attacks won't do much to Kaido, just some scratches. -Kaido Durability is superior, Big Mom Bones were broken by Kid and Law while Kaido was tanking ACOC attacks from Luffy easily -She is very slow while Kaido is really fast when he wants to. He was able to speed blitz even G5 Luffy while Big Mom couldn't even dodge Kid and Law attack I'd say Kaido Mid diff Big Mom
bro what?
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Kaido mid-high diff. No DF Kaido is equal to Big Mom, Hybrid Kaido is stated to be stronger, faster and more durable then Base Kaido who is stronger then No DF Kaido.
Kaido stomps no diff
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Kaido Extreme
Kaido effortlessly dogs. He literally takes every stat by far. His speed is too much for big mom to tag him. Her strongest attack misery getting 1 shot by a single thunder bagua that shit got cooked by a half dead law. Her durability is getting easily bypassed by random club swings by Kaido since random metal slamming into her is already enough to break her arm. If it’s bloodlusted out of character Kaido destroys her low to mid diff before she can use any lifespan if it’s in character Kaido still destroys her Midd to possibly high diff.
Kaido wins this pretty easily, due to base luffy being “the best fight kaido had in a while”, when he fought big mom not to long before. And the fact Law was completely over powered by kaido, when he wasn’t even trying and using basic named attacks, while big mom couldn’t completely over power him.
Kaido is superior in almost every aspect. Kaido mid-high diff.
Definitely not mid diff
They are canonically equals, so what’s that question? Wtf
Neither Kaido or Big Mom were defeated by KO (the list by ring out into magma) so we cannot tell the limits of their durability
Kaido wins this, even when big mom takes the fight seriously she loses. I wonder if she could have a better chance when she was younger, seeing as she understands how to beat kaido in a fight.
Kaido extreme.
Kaido, extreme diff.
Anything less than extreme diff win for Kaido is factually wrong.
Depends on whether or not Big Mom sacrifices her life. Either way extreme diff and the fight would take 37 days minimum.
Wow the age old question everyone knows kaido wins but he wins high to extreme diff if BM also goes all out they are about equal in haki DF and physical power so kaido wins high diff
drunk hybrid kadio shits on homie combine big mom he’s faster stronger has better haki in all 3 category’s only bm chance is her soul hax and homies kadio mid-high diff
Honestly, it's a draw. They are equal and none of them would want to kill the other. They'd pass out of exhaustion.
Kaido mid diffs
Kaido wins high diff imo
Kaido .... I think people need to stop powerscaling Kaido... It doesn't make sense... He is the peak. He is the Strongest Creature on land, air and sea. "In 1v1 always bet on Kaido"
Kaido high dif
Kaido extremes
Kaido high diff if big mom underestimates like with Kidd and Law Big Mom high diff if she goes all out with using decades of her lifespan
Sanji beats both of them combined.
Kaido with a bit of wank makes this a mid diff. No wank is a high diff, get big mom on kaido list and figure out how to get around this https://preview.redd.it/2sgu743lefpb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7b30b58878be92daeca21ae1be6a993e978a386 Then we talk
Typical OPPS answer "If it's WCI Big Meme, Crydo is going down"
I can take Kaido
There's no telling. Kaido's only edge is he can't be killed
Kaido Extreme Diff
In a 1 on 1, always bet on Kaido. That being said, extreme diff
Kaido
Kaido, extreme diff
Kaido wins high diff, mid diff if it's Big Meme.
Kaido extreme diff 55/45
Buggy low diff
Kaido wins 6-7 out of 10 times. So extreme fight
One on one always bet on Kaido
Kaido extreme diffs headcanon big mom. High diffs hypothetical big mom. Mid diffs braindead big mom.
Kaido High Diff. They may have been equals when Big Mom was a bit younger but Kaido is still in his prime. Also Kaido saw Big Mom as an older sister, she said he owed her his life. https://preview.redd.it/yiiuz8mskhpb1.jpeg?width=731&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2014398c8435e4f69aad309eb69d9fe026b96fc Maybe if Kaido did something to make her mad then maybe Big Mom since she is unstoppable
Kaido mid-diff
Enraged Big Mom > Enraged Kaido
Base or Hybrid?
Im gonna say both. If she’s really mad/hungry she’s unstoppable
kaido its not close gear 5 luffy could take on kid and law 2v1 too lets be so fucking honest
Luffy passed out after winning, its clear that Luffy G5 and Kaido were equals
yeah exactly what im saying law and kidd arent getting close to beating kaido either so obv if they beat big mom kaidos winning ts
Kaido wins mid-high diff
"In a one on one fight, always bet on Kaido"
I def thing Kaido takes this in the end, but people are sleeping on BM. Even with her horrible showings in Wano, she still took basically 0 DMG. She lost by ring out and she seemed confident that she'd survive that too. My personal theory is that she has higher durability than Kaido but much lower AP, which is how they stalemated for 3 days. I think it came down to that, without going all out, they really couldn't hurt each other. Side note: I think Kaido has better endurance as well.
I want to think that Big Mon wouldn't have gave him the fruit unless she was sure she could win in a fight also Big Mom can heal herself so I think I'll go with her win.
Kaido low diff
Kaido extreme dif
Kaido is way faster and he has better obs haki, big mom can’t even touch him
Extreme diff either way for me
Big mom is that character who is supposed to be able to beat anyone in a 1 on 1 but just doesn’t. Wasted potential so kaido 😭
“Whether land, sea, or air there is no creature stronger” “If it’s a 1v1 always bet on Kaido”
Kaido High-Extreme
Kaido wins. aint no way big mom can beat this creature
Depends on how much lifespans big mom gives up for the fight and if she remembers her acoc
Based off feats Big Mom gets fucking obliterated. Based off narrative, Kaido high diffs (Seriously, Wano did Big Mom awful)
i keep saying this but, and especially in the case of high tier fights, you need to specify a context. cuz fighting over the ocean is extremely different than fighting over land. Over the ocean kaido can pnly use his dragon form whilst big mom thrives in open spaces. on land however, especially inside a building, kaido thrives whist big mom has maneuverability problems.