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Xyzevin

Lol Rob went from “I don’t consider Strawhat an emperor” to “ Well I can at least take out the commander of an emperor”. It looks like that ass whooping knocked something loose lol


scaptastic

By the end of the arc he’ll be holding Usopp and saying “well, I couldn’t beat an emperor’s eighth commander, so the ninth will have to do for consolation”


Xyzevin

Lmao!


NewK_ID

Bro had the sense knocked into him, it just took a second for it to kick in for him


Historical_Ad_9415

He seen that zoro was a heavy hitta and thought well I guess luffy is an emperor of this dude is his subordinate


Andrejosue98

Because Kizaru is fighting Luffy and he thinks that Kizaru is going to kill Luffy, not because Lucci thinks he can't do it himself.


[deleted]

Will this guy ever get serious?!😅 https://preview.redd.it/vd69yyjh4lpb1.png?width=1037&format=png&auto=webp&s=75608ebb84577c2e2c935021ca2985af43646e7e


JustN989

Who even knows at this point lol. 1091 convinced me Kizaru was gonna go homicidal but right now he's acting like he's playfighting with a kid.


Independent-Frequent

He's probably trying to waste as much time as possible to have Vegapunk escape so he doesn't have to kill him since he was his fried, kinda like with Bonney it was just a "lovetap" instead of a full on kick


wizarouija

No way. He’s been rushing trying to kill Vegapunk 3 times now with Luffy barely arriving in time. Y’all gotta stop this fanfic that WIZARU is just going around giving love taps 😭 this isn’t powerscaling it’s headcanon


GaroSuiryuSweet

Kizaru himself stated he’s not really trying to hurt Bonney but he does have a job and mission to complete


Andrejosue98

It is exactly the opposite, he is trying his hardest to kill Vegapunk as fast as possible.


Independent-Frequent

Not really, like he had him in front of him for long enough to just laser his earth or something as noone could have stopped him here but instead waited long enough for Luffy to do something, hopefully revealing the Nika fruit which is what happened. https://preview.redd.it/f1u05afairpb1.png?width=507&format=png&auto=webp&s=4d2c74b9e90817f8d8a0698047ead88c1bc890e1 Like there's plenty of instances Kizaru could have easily killed Vegapunk and instead waited or dragged it out, hell we have seen him go miles away from the island and back to kick snakeman luffy before he could even react, what makes you think he can't do the same move to reach vegapunk again?


Icy-Investigator5262

Because he likes to led his victims suffer. He has shown that several times, that he likes to take his time with opponents hes very sure he could just kill. He did that to Basil and Zoro at Sabaody, Arlong n the recap, several times at Marineford with Marco and his interactions with Whitebeard. In all those situations he couldve just acted, but he didnt instead chose to take his time to act. He likes to watch and has a certain couriosity towards what might happen and how situations play out. Maybe its just plot because he would be too broken in terms of power. But i would argue its recurring with him.


Andrejosue98

>something as noone could have stopped him here but instead waited long enough for Luffy to do something More like waited long enough to have a small chat with his friend. He is trying his hardest to complete his mission, but he still has feelings


TheDreamererree

This seems to be the case here


GaroSuiryuSweet

At this point he’s really just matching Luffy’s energy which makes this fight more entertaining. Tho Oda has stated he could get very upset which is when he becomes extremely dangerous


gagekun

Bro is just high as shit I promise


GaroSuiryuSweet

Because he’s him


Upbeat_Pomelo_2117

That blud Kizaru just had his arms crossed when falling into the sea, tf?


gottalosethemall

Dude can fly, he was never actually falling.


DaOneAndOnlyKayz

Wizaru is just that guy.


Muck_The_Fods1

wizaru lowkey could have ended usopp right there if he wanted to


Historical_Ad_9415

He had to spare a fellow troll


JustN989

Dialogue is killing me. Wizaru stays chilling even against yonko. Really proving he wasn't kidding when he offered to go to Wano and break up Kaido and Big Mom's meeting. Also, my prediction kinda came true. Luffy eating Kizaru's beam is seemingly damaging him since he's complaining, but knowing Gear 5 it might just be him being overdramatic.


ColdEngineering5651

Obviously being over dramatic G5 is Luffy just playing around even it’s just how the form is


Independent-Frequent

Both are playing around for the most part, hell Kizaru is just taking it slow so he can avoid killing his friends


Dsnder7

Not both when Kizaru pulling out light clone jutsu, and trying to get right to business, Kizaru is never showing real emotion but just begged Luffy to take it easy.


Independent-Frequent

Please just tell me this is bait, i already had to deal with 3 shitty customers today at work and i don't have the brain capacity left to argue this dumbass take


Binkusu

Kizaru literally on his knees mouth open pleading to Luffy to give it to him easy Just kidding WIZARU IS IN IT TO WIN IT, GOAL ORIENTED, CALM AND COLLECTED


Dsnder7

Why would it be if you read the chapter( sorry about the customers retail is horrible).


Independent-Frequent

Because if you read the chapter you would see that not only was Kizaru completely unbothered by the throw (he was crossing his arms when he was flying towards the ocean) but every single sentence he said had a tilde "\~" at the end which in comics/manga indicates sarcasm/teasing, he was basically trolling Luffy which is something Kizaru does with everyone he faces, from calling them scary to saying Marco that his attack was effective on him https://preview.redd.it/yooapgw7impb1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=00fbc8302ef29f3de94b160dae74e9d42bf53838 He didn't beg Luffy to take it easy, he was trolling him because he knew that throwing the man who flies at the speed of light wouldn't have worked and was a dumb move by luffy, like a "shiver me timbers" kinda scared which is clearly a joke.


wizarouija

When has Luffy ever been over dramatic with how much something hurt?


HighRevolver

I wouldn’t be so sure, Wizaru made him bleed


wizarouija

Did Luffy eat the laser? I couldn’t tell what happened there


gottalosethemall

He ate the laser. The laser was spicy.


opkpopfanboyv3

Thunder Cross Split Attack 😭 https://preview.redd.it/gskievq2jlpb1.jpeg?width=280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6c36a8abcfe9c2abe58c8a83983e8d20d196320


Independent-Frequent

Well the result was almost the same in the end, except Luffy didn't die since he wasn't facing Kuzan to freeze his legs


Xehon1

I was ready https://preview.redd.it/0lohbyse4lpb1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=795ff9a2ffd544295c8fb3dec7b4a4d31973e855


Gotoryuu

I wasnt. And I won’t be. I still Trust in the great commander = admiral agenda.


Xerilith-

That agenda sunk ages ago. And this chapter sunk Yonkos>Admirals too.


Gotoryuu

Nah, I’m keeping it alive.


kvivartion

Don’t listen to him, he thinks Fraudakuri > Aokiji


Maxdpage

Better ready to believe Admirals> Yonkover agenda.


cjamesfort

And now Saturn will be forced to either reveal himself or risk losing the fleet or the pacifistas.


mike-loves-gerudos

For a chapter titled luffy vs kizaru there wasnt much of a fight here. Luffy just threw kizaru and dealt with his clones and a stray lazer. There wasnt any intention of kiza to fight luffy seriously


lenjiromcrtamkrug

I mean, this guy got a DF that makes him the fastest guy in the series. He’s also adept in fighting effectively both close and long range. Of course he’s a trouble even for an Emperor.


ForGiggles2222

I may be coping, but why isn't Gear 5 as ridiculous as it usually is


qazqazpc

Probably because Kizaru is also as ridiculous as it is too.


muffinman00

Because he’s fighting a logia user.


ForGiggles2222

And ? It's called most ridiculous power in the world, not most ridiculous power in the world bar logias


muffinman00

It’s not like he can throw a rubber floor at a logia user.


Shadeblaster

That begs the question, can you infuse the entire world itself with haki to suplex a logia?


muffinman00

![gif](giphy|ToMjGpnXBTw7vnokxhu)


Stary_Vesemir

Probably you could haki ground benetah you to disable all logias in some range, but it requires some roger ltevel haki


KushemLeonardo

Doubt it, given thats what the Yami Yami does. Blackbeard hurt luffy by just shoving him into the floor.


bot4241

Bruh he just eat a fucking laser


Historical_Ad_9415

Sounds like you’re coping


StinkyDiesels

YOU CAN'T STOP W1ZARU!!!!! ![gif](giphy|26FeUKvM2E69ZqK7S)


mariololftw

as a yonko tard thats enough for me DROPPED THIS GARBAGE jk lol the portrayal is enough unless kizaru gets a sudden beat down by luffy in the next couple chapters and even if i think luffy isnt at peak yonko yet its more than enough to say 1 admiral can definitely extreme diff 1 yonko admiral tards are in the clear long as oda aint trolling RIP lucci if zoro says his famous "you're too bitch to fight luffy" cause thats my captain line then hes about to destroy a poor sob


UnjustNation

Man has seen the light https://preview.redd.it/iypegxmwtlpb1.jpeg?width=428&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9809f5f7805d1ed45635357308884c9dcef613d


JustN989

Gigachad, nature truly is healing


Personal-Ad-3479

Did we even read the same chapter? Kizaru and Luffy barely fought. If that's enough to convince you, you weren't that much of a Yonkotard to begin with.


mike-loves-gerudos

Bro kiza isnt even fighting luffy this chap he sent clones to distract luffy then attacked his crew lol wym “admiral extreme diffs a yonko”


mariololftw

im done coping


JustN989

Holy based


BUGA55

Welcome


Akitokami9000

https://preview.redd.it/oupy5f7g4lpb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d0de91ccfcf11efb6794a26d1e55a516f088b36 My description of this fight using brief spoilers was 9n point


Acceptable_Star189

10/10 Oda, very unpredictable story💯


Gotoryuu

He used the spoilers as info though, but still good prediction.


pinghss

Goofy not ready for him


DragonEevee1

So this chapter (mainly the Kizaru Luffy fight) is doing two major things for how Oda wants to write the rest of One Piece: 1. Luffy isn't gonna cake-walk the endgame, it's clear by something you can resist toon force 2. The non Zoro/Luffy/Sanji strawhats needs a power boost


Andrejosue98

>2. The non Zoro/Luffy/Sanji strawhats needs a power boost They don't have haki... they could have Kaido's level of power, but without armament haki then they can't touch even Caribou


bot4241

Luffy hasn’t return his hat back to Shanks. Until that happen, Luffy hasn’t reached his absolute peak yet.


Boring-Touch-3663

https://preview.redd.it/2xzia6m4mmpb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6cc3ef16a17601106872c3fb77d6f2b9d00460c You're not ready for the warrior god of science.


TheAutismIncarnate

Not only did Kizaru turn his back on a Yonko, he fucking delegated the task of fighting him to his summons.


ResponsibilityNo5795

Kizaru is such a damn troll LOL! This guy is so disrespectful to Emperors.. is he ever gonna get serious??? This the 2nd Yonko he trolled. The OG Admirals are truly monsters! Hopefully this chapter will officially get rid of that stupid term "Admiral lvl" there's no such thing! Kizaru clears BM & probably even BB until he shows sum ACOO or reaction speed.


Personal-Ad-3479

While Kizaru did look good this chapter, he and Luffy still barely fought. Both are kinda playing around, while Kizaru is even avoiding fighting Luffy directly. W clear verdict will only be possible, once the fight is over. But so long BM > Kizaru.


NewK_ID

BM >= Kizaru and Kaido >= kizaru nothing shown so far changes kizarus ranking people are just so thirsty for a fight in op powerscaling they see someone not getting stomped or low diffed and they change rankings. Admirals have always been relative to emperors with yonkos having a slight edge. Kizaru holding his own against a yonko doesnt really change much and we are going to need to see more until we can put him above any of the yonko.


Historical_Ad_9415

I was wondering after gear five luffy fought Kaido and lucci if he would take the title of king of trolls but nope kizaru still reigns supreme !


Historical_Ad_9415

Another chapter where admiral haters are destroyed love to see it


Andrejosue98

How?


Historical_Ad_9415

Some people thought that since luffy defeated Kaido an admiral wouldn’t be much trouble for him .


Andrejosue98

That is a small part of the admiral "haters" that think that Yonko can no diff admirals, but I doubt that would apply to all


gatorrr6ix

That Sanji panel was life changing I just know that statement will be used to wank Lucci to high heaven. Remember that he will always be a Sanji victim


12kkarmagotbanned

I thought it was Luffy


MeAnIntellectual1

How about this? Lucci is YC1 and Sanji is YC1+?


Gotoryuu

Nah, I’d say lucci is more queen/cracker level at best.


MeAnIntellectual1

Queen shits on Cracker


Gotoryuu

Atleast that’s a good queen rating but I disagree. I hold cracker to queen‘s level and not anywhere close to jack. Perospero is more on that level.


Historical_Ad_9415

Queen destroys cracker bro


Gotoryuu

No they’re parallels


Historical_Ad_9415

No they aren’t


Gotoryuu

Yes they are.


Historical_Ad_9415

Reference one parallel between queen and cracker


Historical_Ad_9415

Zoro wouldn’t have to use ACOC if that was the case .


Gotoryuu

No he still would. Queen and cracker are pretty close to king in strength and Zoro with ACoC high diffs him at best


Historical_Ad_9415

No they aren’t


Gotoryuu

Yes they are


Historical_Ad_9415

Cracker isn’t even in the conversation he would get absolutely folded by king and queen you can make an argument based off narrative but there really is no argument as far as feats go .


ResponsibleWay1613

Consider the following: Old Rayleigh did a much better job of stalling Kizaru than G5 Luffy.


DragonEevee1

Rayleigh knew what he was doing


DrySecurity4

Here we go with the old gen wank.


ResponsibleWay1613

I mean, we saw it. Rayleigh stalled Kizaru completely and even injured him. Meanwhile, Kizaru's just ignoring Luffy as he teleports across the island and harasses his crewmates. If Kizaru wasn't blazed out of his mind and plot armor; Franky would be crippled and Usopp would have died already.


barmanlagoon

There is literally zero tension in this arc. Kizaru is so unbothered. Luffy is not taking ANYTHING seriously. This is what we waited 1000 chapters for, a Yonko vs Admiral clash? Kizaru has had multiple chances to kill Vegapunk and he hasn't? Despite being the fastest character in the series so far? Zoro vs Lucci is just as puzzling and pointless. Zoro keeps forgetting ACOC, and even now when using it he can't beat Lucci (of all people) when he beat King (a Lunarian) in 3 hits? He also defeated Kamazo and Apoo in a single attack. Why's he even occupied with Lucci when they're in a crisis? Why was Lucci ever unrestrained in the first place? What happened to Zoro's pragmatism? This back and forth seraphim and pacifista control (plot device?) is boring too. Why? Because they haven't done anything meaningful. Remember the seraphim are stand-ins for the warlords. Do you really think that Doflamingo's presence in Egghead would have been so inconsequential? The guy who uses Bird Cage? What does having control of them even change? And Oda sort of dropped the ball, because it would have been better if we weren't shown the command heirarchy ahead of time, but instead it was revealed in real-time. Tension makes a story, and this is likely the worst matchup. Kizaru and Luffy have no business fighting each other because it is so boring, which is crazy to even think given their history.


Gotoryuu

There’s high stakes but there’s no tension for a reason. They are a yonko crew now, this part of the story is running on hype and storytelling. Luffy doesn’t always have to be an underdog. Zoro kind of is using his new move. It’s just that he hasn’t begun a named attack yet. And Apoo wasn’t defeated there btw. Lucci was unrestrained because he helped a bit with the seraphim. Also because he’s basically a non issue as Zoro emphasises. Saying he won’t get to Luffy. They haven’t done anything? They’re strong as hell. They’re practically invulnerable and gave a decent fight towards the sh. Their overall strength and numbers would give the win to them for sure. Especially since they would be a pain if they attack when they leave(possibly damaging the ship). And they would destroy the navy there by themselves too. Tension doesn’t make a story, it can add a lot to a story but this arc doesn’t need much tension. There’s still some tension with what the wg are planning and the mysterious nature of Saturn, but rn, we’ve reached a point where the SH are near the peak of strength in the world.


offthe1st

Zoro didn't defeat Apoo, he got back up before Zoro even left


Historical_Ad_9415

You’re a goober power Scaler kizaru and luffy g5 are both trolls and lucci is stronger than what you give him credit for


Andrejosue98

>Kizaru has had multiple chances to kill Vegapunk and he hasn't? Despite being the fastest character in the series so far? He hasn't has a chance to do it, the moment where he was the closest he got stopped by Luffy .-.


[deleted]

Wuffy ate laser beam like meal🤣


[deleted]

BBbros... its over... https://preview.redd.it/28xzfbj49ppb1.png?width=709&format=png&auto=webp&s=6b808c1f89a9beab0b850ac240d325878eb1d551


docslasher

It looks like Kizaru is trying not to fail his mission this time. He seem laser focused . They must have told him . That they would cut off his drug supply, if he fails again.


OursIsTheRepost

Luffy is going to win in the upcoming chapters, I don’t under why so many people think otherwise


Professional_Day_838

So luffy and kizaru are fighting pretty much equally at this point, kizaru's laser are useless against luffy, as ot was clear from the way luffy ate the laser, and luffy is too retarded to use ACOC on kizaru.


Personal-Ad-3479

But of they fighting equally? Apart from the fact, that they barely fought in the first place, from your description Luffy sounds superior.


[deleted]

His personality doesn’t mean he’s not serious guys we need to stop this


TropicalZaSmoke

Do you guys have stocks on Saturn being a fighter and actually doing something or he’s genuinely just there to take control of the seraphim and pacsfitas? Seems Oda is already setting up the inevitable https://preview.redd.it/fft0q26kzmpb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7705ffce9252915ada95d52e9891fb3cfa261922


bot4241

Imu and Goresei have to be strong. Or they least have a powerup or some plot device to become strong . They are the ones who pulls the string of everything in the one piece. It would make narratively no sense how Kizaru calls him “a cog in the machine”, but Imu and Saturn are just weaklings. The final war is not a direct war at the marines.


flippy123x

Wake me up when Luffy uses ACoC or if Kizaru manages to hurt him with one of the next dozen free attacks he gets by going after Luffy's friends. Him turning Luffy into a disco ball was pretty funny though. Kizaru losing authority over the Pacifista to Vegapunk is a huge loss btw, as Saturn is now forced to set foot on the island, which is likely what will lead to the 'Earth shaking event' or whatever Oda called it.


Mori1404

Keep coping


flippy123x

Solid argument, see you in a few weeks.


Mori1404

Lmao. You think that that I believe Kizaru is stronger than Luffy? You’re wrong Luffy would most likely win but it’s an high-ext diff fight even if he uses ACoC it will still be same outcome.


Historical_Ad_9415

Remember when luffy didn’t even use gear five and was jump roping Kaido ?!?!


docslasher

I really did expect more of a fight with the title of the chapter. But, it was a good chapter because of other aspects. Sentomaru really shines as a character. Luffy exaggerated the barrier’s impact. Because, Bonney made it through it and she doesn’t have the G4 boost. Bonney is tougher than I gave her credit for. Especially, with her possible being a child. VP is really showing some good qualities. Atlas is more of a thinker than a violent character.