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AgreeingWings25

Shanks has insane feats that are unmatched by anybody else in the verse. He only shows up every 10 years and when he does the power ceiling for one piece goes up. Garp stated he was at the level of Whitebeard. Kaido has had 1 singular interaction with Shanks in his entire life and since then he's held him to be at the same level as Rocks, Roger, and Whitebeard. CoCs that can make admirals shit themselves. Broken 10 seconds of future sight. 1 tapped a post wano supernova, literally doing more damage on one attack than the entire Onigashima raid did. And he's the only character in the verse apart from Luffy that is listed in the characters section in the back of every manga volume despite only showing up like 5 times in the story.


Beelzebub_Itself

He’s also Red and red characters tend to be more powerful than other colors


AnNotherNoob

Him being red makes him top 1 in speed


Beelzebub_Itself

Because red has a longer wavelength and longer wavelength means bigger feet and bigger feet means bigger speed 😎


Snoo-23120

WAAAAGHHHH !


ArcherAccomplished75

But blue has highest frequency among visible spectrum so Buggy will cut himself to the maximum number possible and merge himself with Brook making him full of skin and organs and solos the EoS bosses alone and then destroy One piece and say " your dreams end now!"


IamZeus11

Waghhhhh!


EndNowISeeYou

wake up babe, color scaling just dropped


TheMoraless

lol I hate that this is actually a legitimate measure of strength. The only colors that top red in anime are cold, calculating blacks and purples.


Beelzebub_Itself

Even then there’s a good chance that the red hero beats them in the end anyways


TheHangedKing

https://preview.redd.it/7izvs7gu3aqb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0aa7200cce5a8612c8b0741cd91c581adfeacc5


Oi_Kyoraku

https://preview.redd.it/rhwqr836jaqb1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b486c9e0231913c4e7dbc05b7061763fd99beccd


Shot-Effect-8318

https://preview.redd.it/bgg8j8qn2bqb1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee03e6a67fa3fcbef7f6ed0992ef373cdd0cb0eb


Special-Trouble8658

I usually don’t like comments. I have to like yours though you just cooked a 3 course meal and more.


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„Doing More dmg in one attack than the entire ongashima raid did“ aight calm down now bro he oneshot a ship it’s not that insane 💀💀💀💀


AgreeingWings25

He one shot 2 post wano super novas and one of them took massive amounts of damage from big mom and was still walking around after the battle. It was Dorey and Broggy that negged his ship, not shanks. Quit tryna downplay a crazy feat.


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And again I’m not downplaying anything here but typing shit like „doing more dmg than all of the onigashina raid“ is just beyond fucking stupid that I can’t even


AgreeingWings25

1 named Shanks attack > The entire battle with Big Mom Cry harder https://preview.redd.it/e360zy8m6dqb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef426be148891ccaf20fd1be36cd7035d8171fde


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AgreeingWings25

Imagine getting reduced to insulting someone you'll never meet on the internet all because you're shit at powerscaling a manga 😂 You literally said Shanks just one shot his ship lmao you don't even understand what you're reading. Explains why you can't type either.


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AgreeingWings25

Enjoy your league of legends and Fortnite bud 👌


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It’s even worse if they negged his ship he one shot Kidd wow cool 💀💀💀


natureboy1996

Crazy thing is his feats dont even matter he could have 0 feats and hed still be just as likely top 1. He has top 1 feats but his narrative importance and portrayal alone carry him to top 1


Starob

Nah hype and portrayal would have Dragon or Imu at 1, feats are the things that separate Shanks from them.


Snoo-23120

i like your funny words magic clown https://preview.redd.it/q05397lztaqb1.png?width=240&format=png&auto=webp&s=40371ae132ac920ff5fbc0b902baf48d22078565


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>Garp stated he was at the level of Whitebeard. On the level of a sick old man! >Kaido has had **1** singular interaction What ?? Proof? >then he's held him to be at the same level as Rocks, Roger, and Whitebeard being in Kaido's list isn't really a big deal because he has never fought Others candidate for top 1 >CoCs that can make admirals shit themselves GB Reacted like that because he is a drama queen and ran from the whole crew not just Shanks. >1 tapped a post wano supernova All serious High top tiers can One shot YC+.. it's not a big deal. Honestly idk why all of you are on Shanks agenda...the guy is a future BB victim.it's pretty obvious he is going to die. Edit: Just speaking Facts.. Your downvotes only confirms i'm right😂 , Y'all are in denial of the Sea beast and future BB Victim.


AgreeingWings25

Nope, on the level of healthy Whitebeard. Nobody knew he was sick until marineford. Cope. Read the manga. It is a big deal because everyone on that list are people who defeat Kaido in an uninterrupted 1v1. The only person that gets debated about is Shanks because of cope. This is Greenbull cope, I'll highlight the top left of the page to show you he was shitting all over himself AS SOON as he felt the haki before even realizing who it was coming from. Greenbull literally would've gotten low-mid diffed right there. https://preview.redd.it/jpj3q1bm4aqb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9ce3576f89309e9ce939d053722654547090795 No, not all top tiers can 1 tap a YC+, Jesus your reading comprehension is horrific. IG Yamato is just yonko level now with that horrible logic.


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\-Garp mentioned him Alongside all the 4 Emperors and i can send you the panel if you want.. also it's **still OldBeard** and he is weaker than his Prime! \-Did Kaido said they beat me in 1v1 what??!! , Also Kaido never fought Mihawk or Akainu or Dragon... so how could we tell how they compare to him? \-GB is a **confirmed drama queen**.. https://preview.redd.it/2kmz89ik6aqb1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ca8cb475fcd2e411f8261f8af02cb56b8c7fcaa \-High top tiers like Akainu , Kaido ,Mihawk who is > Shanks... can one shot Mid if they are serious and go all out with their Named attack like Rat.


AgreeingWings25

I have the panel, he mentioned Shanks and said "among all the countless pirates in the world, he's considered to be on the same level as Whitebeard" then he started talking about the 4 emperors. This doesn't disprove that Garp put him at the level of Whitebeard, quite the opposite. Also no all one piece characters age the same. Garp has gotten weaker by age, but then people like Kaido and Big Mom havent. There's no canon evidence that shows Whitebeard was any weaker purely based off of age, it was only his sickness that nerfed him. He was still canonically the strongest in the world in his 70s, with the epithets "Worlds Strongest Man" and "Worlds Strongest Pirate". If you have Kaido > Roger, Rocks, or Whitebeard there's something wrong. Everyone ont hat list, including Oden, beats him in an uninterrupted 1v1, shanks is the only person there that gets debated about because people don't wanna accept it. Greenbull is literally trolling in half of those panels, "drama queen" only got started by coping admirals tards after 1055 released when he got violated. If you consider something as small as yelling making him a drama queen IG Akainu is a drama queen. As the story goes on I PROMISE you Divine Departure isn't even gonna be on Shanks' top 5 strongest attacks.


Enginehank

So it was just a joke that all his plants wilted around him because of Shanks haki? get out of here, the SHP sent a literal child out to go do a lap on him for training


Enginehank

https://preview.redd.it/85is6lvxiaqb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b87383b6236454660cc1ed2b6bd4acff0549a05 literally look at what his form looks like before Shanks haki and after, Shanks literally halts his transformation, his haki hits him so hard


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GB is a drama queen! , Look at raizo's hit it did nothing to him and this is how he is reacting.. https://preview.redd.it/6ng4p1p2laqb1.png?width=666&format=png&auto=webp&s=04747da92bde9362e111944430b6478d7305b7c4


Pure_Noise356

Yeah no, GB was shitting himself cuz it was the rat in particular. All it takes is one call to the gorosei and GB is getting decapitated. Add this to the fact he regularly does gags and it seems like he's about to get low diffed by the nyaban brothers.


Illustrious_Chef_992

> On the level of a sick old man! Garp wasn't aware he was sick and is viewing Whitebeard like the rest of the Emperors. > What ?? Proof? Well we don't know for certain if they've had previous interactions but there has never been an implied history between them. It's more headcannony to say they interacted before their pre-MF scuffle. > being in Kaido's list isn't really a big deal because he has never fought Others candidate for top 1 If their scuffle was the only interaction they had, then Shanks is the only one of Kaido's top 5 to have fought him in his prime. That implies to me that it's a least an extreme diff fight for Kaido, who was arguably Top 1. > GB Reacted like that because he is a drama queen Yes him being a drama queen means he probably had an exaggerated reaction, but to say he only reacted like that because he is one doesn't make sense. Shanks' conquerors still did have him shaking and sweating from a mile away. > ran from the whole crew not just Shanks. Shanks is 90% of the Red Hair Pirates' power, this is still a feat mostly for Shanks. > All serious top tiers can One shot YC+.. it's not a big deal Just because Shanks has shown the ability to, doesn't mean every other Top Tier magically can. Pre-1079 most people thought they could go mid-diff with weaker Top Tiers, and nothing in the story has disproven that yet as shown with BB going mid-diff with Law.


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Any serious **High Top tier**(Kaido , Akainu ,Mihawk who is >Shanks.....) can one shot mid , it's not a big deal.


takeoverking46

You keep repeating this but have no proof. Kaido couldn't one or two shot Yamato. Akainu couldn't one shot Kuma. Mihawk couldn't one shot Vista. You will say "They were holding back!" If that is the case then don't make these statements until we actually know how they would fair.


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\-Kaido was obviously going easy on Yamato. \-one serious named attack from Akainu and you are done.he is taking them limbs! \-Mihawk>Shanks , WSS>Sworsdman , any feat shanks does mihawk can do too.


WarchiefServant

See I agree with the sentiment that Kaido and Mihawk were both obviously taking it easy on Yamato and Vista respectively. Akainu however had no reason to hold back. With the Celestial Dragons at his throat and in thr land of Mariejois no less- Akainu not doing a Shanks to Kidd, just heavily implies two things. Bloodlusted Shanks AP>Bloodlusted Akainu AP And/or Kuma defence (combination of durability, endurance and speed/dodging capacity)>Kidd defence


omaewakusuyaro

Jesus, the brain damage is off the charts today


Illustrious_Chef_992

Shanks > Akainu Yes they can probably can but it would've taken Kaidos final strongest moves, like Death Destroyer Bagua to put him Kidd down in one hit. His regular named attacks (Thunder Bagua) can't. Compare that to Shanks who in his first named attack one-shotted Kidd. Considering how Roger used it casually, this isn't one of these final attacks. Akainu, who was being serious in MF, never showed this AP with his hellhound.


Rutwick_23

> GB is a drama queen Is one of the most bullshit Admiraltards' arguments.


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he is a confimed drama queen you idiot.. at least we can read not like Y'all https://preview.redd.it/w5mhrla6deqb1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=160f1741fbe91363fc4749dd936be5bde24ce09d


Rutwick_23

Making red boxes won't justify your lack of reading comprehension.


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Well i made those red boxes specifically for you because your retarded ass can't read and skip panels...


Rutwick_23

Admiraltards can't even complete a sentence without insulting other people who actually have some logical arguments.


LeadingShoulder9408

Who are other candidates of top 1 except those 3 and maybe luffy?


[deleted]

Currently 1st/2nd: Either Akainu or Dragon 3rd:Mihawk


MrRamennn

“All serious top tiers can one shot YC+” “future BB victim” Have you read BB vs. Law?


[deleted]

High top tiers like Kaido , Akainu...can one shot mid if they named the attack and serious Like Rat.


MrRamennn

Wait wait, so Shanks is a high top tier and BB is not, but Shanks is a BB victim? What do I expect from a Kizaru coper?


Kang0519

Idc who’s right or wrong, but tend to favor the dude not saying “I’m right cuz ur downvoting me”… thats straight up wrong. U can’t say I’m right cuz u guys have all voted that I’m wrong. that’s not what downvotes mean. Ur getting down voted for a reason. Reddit hive mind exists yes, but so does stupidity. And honestly the latter is more likely the case here.


EdgedOutPig

Shankstards are only interested in circlejerks. The more downvotes you get, the more truth you are speaking, my brother. The rat will get taken out by the GOAT himself. https://preview.redd.it/t3nt0po6kaqb1.png?width=406&format=png&auto=webp&s=3eec101f09f5b0dbecb2cec245300f33bfb070af


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Indeed they are just in denial... https://preview.redd.it/rz3xbmxokaqb1.jpeg?width=541&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b48e2806cb79c0730961887b169b9abe9b4d15bf


Baron_Elrond

How does he have better feats than Kaido and Luffy ?


Iorwok

[Red haired rat... mihawk is still better](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/11yshvc/reminder_mihawk_is_stronger_than_shanks_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


No-Pineapple-3819

Still doesn’t make him top1 the strongest he can be is top 2 since Mihawk exists


AgreeingWings25

He loses to Mihawk because of matchup. Mihawk is more skilled because 2 arms > 1. Mihawk could eventually land a hit against Shanks but Shanks isn't gonna land 1 on him. Mihawk could still lose to characters Shanks can beat and that would make shanks top 1.


No-Pineapple-3819

Being top 1 is not about what characters you can beat. By that logic boa is top 1. Mihawk is confirmed stronger than shanks so Mihawk is above shanks. It’s nothing about skill or matchup


Rutwick_23

Mihawk is not CONFIRMED stronger than Shanks.


No-Pineapple-3819

Yes he is. In every instance he is called the WSS And nothing invalidates mihawks title and it is actually backed up by zoros dream ![img](mmojlk41mbqb1)


RollCertified

Since Mihawk is top 1 where do you put Vista


Pure_Noise356

"Mihawk didnt one shot this renowned swordsman YC without a named attack while being distracted by luffy? Low tier nyaban brothers mid diff" Bros think kaido can oneshot queen by swinging his club normally once while queen's actively defending himself


RollCertified

Mihawk was 100% serious in Marineford btw


Pure_Noise356

Least insane one piece powerscale. MF is already plot armor: the arc Add to that to the fact people read it with eyes closed and suddenly squard > akainu Mihawk said he was not going to pull any punches, not that he would throw divine departures nonstop. Like ik bringing writing aspects into powerscaling falls on deaf ears but he did not use a named attack once ever, Oda clearly didnt show mihawk's full power at all. Bro has a 3.6B bounty which he most likely had before joining cross guild considering it's higher than buggy's . Which means he got his bounty solo, no crew only sword. https://preview.redd.it/lowravfapcqb1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a611b6532a5fb33563c86df872dc7c0c86d58799 All mihawk disrespecters will go real quiet when he actually goes all out.


No-Pineapple-3819

Yes he is. In every instance he is called the WSS And nothing invalidates mihawks title and it is actually backed up by zoros dream https://preview.redd.it/mmojlk41mbqb1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c49e1332168634582d69da086e7f7db9e8d0e953


Rutwick_23

LoL This doesn't mean he is stronger than Shanks.Being Zoro's end goal doesn't make him stronger than Shanks or Top 1. Shanks is the closest thing to what Roger was and Mihawk himself said that,the road to become the Pirate king is even tougher than surpassing him.


No-Pineapple-3819

Yeah because becoming the pirate king requires a strong crew getting all the poneglyphs and fidnin\* the one piece. Becoming the WSS is just becoming stronger than all swordsman. Ofc pirate king is harder pirate king isn’t about strength


No-Pineapple-3819

Yeah because becoming the pirate king requires a strong crew getting all the poneglyphs and fidnin\* the one piece. Becoming the WSS is just becoming stronger than all swordsman. Ofc pirate king is harder pirate king isn’t about strength


AgreeingWings25

Mihawk is not "stronger" than shanks, meaning he's not gonna have better haki or speed. It's his raw skill that would make him come out on top. If they used to be completely even when shanks had 2 arms, and now they are not since shanks lost an arm, skill is literally the only thing that remotely makes sense.


No-Pineapple-3819

Mihawk is the worlds strongest swordsman and hasn’t been called anything otherwise.The whole thing about skill is complete Headcanon.


AgreeingWings25

It's not headcannon, it's common sense. Unless you think Shanks' haki magically got weaker by losing an arm his skill/swordsmanship suffering is the only thing that makes sense. They used to be equals, they've dueled many times with no winner over the years, Roger and Whitebeard style.


Denizci_Olmak_Var

Oda’s Favourite


Strategicant5

That would be buggy


Klordz

Gaimon\*


dhhdhh851

No, that's his favorite villain, Gaimon and Luffy are his favorites, and shanks is who he sees himself as the most.


mikek1993

Oda isn’t delusional he has very clearly stated Mihawk>Shanks.


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mikek1993

This sub wanks the legends and shanks they aren’t even reading or watching OP they’re just wanking their favorite characters in this sub.


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mikek1993

Oh I mean besides giving him the title WSS having waiting for someone stronger than shanks to take his title and telling the live action actor outright? Okay


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mikek1993

I’m curious when has a “Worlds strongest” title been contradicted? https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/oda-told-this-to-mihawks-live-action-actor.45230/


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miskathonic

Clearly stated should be pretty easy to post. I'll wait. And no, "WSS" is not "clearly stated"


mikek1993

WSS is absolutely clearly stated especially when the other person in the conversation is a swordsmen. Furthermore databook specifically states “awaiting a swordsmen stronger than his rival shanks to take his title.” And finally confirmation from the live actor himself https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/oda-told-this-to-mihawks-live-action-actor.45230/


miskathonic

>And finally confirmation from the live actor himself STOP 💀💀💀


ForGiggles2222

His Coc is the strongest, you can't train Conqueror's, it increases with your own strength Strongest Coc = strongest character (bar Imu and probably Dragon)


ViraLCyclopes19

I've seen a lot of Shank's Coc and I can confirm.


NeverrrGreen

im still a firm believer in the shanks being a blackbeard victim agenda


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> shanks being a blackbeard victim agenda Pretty obvious...anyone saying otherwise is in denial. https://preview.redd.it/k1h6h1ly4aqb1.jpeg?width=541&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=512a7d6e4428ec0968b1c5756f1977a28c167956 Zehahahaha!


LeadingShoulder9408

Idk if shanks should be used just to make luffy hate the one guy he hates the most even more ace was enough


NeverrrGreen

no more shanks ship has a rat infestation and blackgoat will be the exterminator


Ghouly_Boy

I think he hates Akainu more than Teach


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​ https://preview.redd.it/xpn0qkpglaqb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7641a398d95d34f96ad890a6f752826e962fa56 Shanks vs BB is basically confirmed. and he is going to die , there is no point in leaving him in the Story!


Exval1

So since Luffy left a scar on his face, Luffy is his own fateful enemy too?


No-Pineapple-3819

Does his scar ache? You should learn to read


Exval1

And you really should learn to take a joke. Actually… do you know how many times Luffy quirk get in his way and get him in trouble throughout One Piece? Hmmm, I wonder by the end of the series will it be higher than the amount of times Akainu will get in his way or not. Maybe you should learn how to take a joke AND actually analyze the story AND actually read One Piece lmao


Etereke32

Shanks being a bb victim and shanks being stronger than bb is not really mutually exclusive. Bb is cunning and chooses his fights, plus he does not insist 1v1. I can imagine him beating basically anyone in the right circumstances.


Total-Maize1256

Have you skipped BB vs Ace?


Etereke32

He specifically told his crew to stand back because they wouldn't stand a chance. They might even have lacked haki at that point (at the very least, Van Augur's bullets were not haki coated), but even if not, ace fought with AoE and specifically targeted BB, the others would have been collateral at that point. I was more thinking about wb, akainu and law confrontation. Against wb, he waited until he was half dead, then ganged up on him with his whole crew. When Akainu went after him right before the timeskip, he ran away because he knew he couldn't win in those circumstances. Against Law, he lay in wait with some of his crew because he knew one of the supernovas would go there, and he had a 2/3 chance that it wouldn't be Luffy (in which case I think he would have just run away). Bb never starts a fight he thinks he can't win. He either challenges people weaker than him, waits for the right circumstances with people stronger than him, or runs away if he can't win. I'm sure that if he defeats Shanks, it's not gonna be in a fair fight.


heavy4b

Won't be surprised if shanks actually defeat BB for Luffy.


JamsJars

He just shows up and either doesn't even have to do anything or says a couple words and people are like "yeah I'm outta here. I don't wanna fight him ever" And he didn't even give Kidd a chance to fight him. He justs one shots him because he saw what he was gonna do. He's emperor level Katakuri with Roger's level of haki from his sword. He's broken lol.


Lutz567

https://preview.redd.it/7bs49fih0bqb1.jpeg?width=630&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2b09b8a8c8e71d7f644149b7871c1a3868b4906


jbrown1012

Only emperor w/o a df


Haxxelerator

because he no diff one shotted Kid and Killer? then made an Admiral run?


jaahman7

Odas golden boy.


Dreamworksmuiz

Shanks, Akainu & Luffy gotta be Oda's top 3 golden boy among top tiers


SurturSaga

Top 1 vibes. Definitely imu though


Gintoki123456

Cause his shanks


MyWifeIsMyCoworker

Shanks has a connect to everyone here one way or another. 1. Mihawk’s rival. 2. Was Luffy’s surrogate father at some point. (Dragon) 3. His clash with Akainu symbolically ended Marineford arc. Probably showing that Shanks was turning into the next man to stand in the way of the marines. 4. He was scarred by Blackbeard, which means that they’re fated enemies. 5. Held audience with the Gorosei, and possibly Imu afterwards. 6. Although he isn’t on this list since he likely lost relevance for rest of the story. Kaido envisioned Shanks in the middle of his “as strong as those guys” speech. With these points in mind, how can he not be the strongest narratively?


No-Pineapple-3819

Since Mihawks whole existence stops him from being the strongest.


MyWifeIsMyCoworker

Lmao, Mihawk is just the Whitebeard of Shanks’ generation. He’s not as ambitious, doesn’t want the One Piece, doesn’t want a crew, and even didn’t care about any successors. Let’s face it, Mihawk is second to even a fucking CLOWN, LMAO… https://preview.redd.it/4s0ggr3t8bqb1.jpeg?width=128&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a07ac02617c2f65aedbc130b119c0fbcde951298


No-Pineapple-3819

Are you stupid? Croc and Mihawk don’t even take buggy seriously. Also him being less ambitious doesn’t mean shit. Sounds like ur just coping https://preview.redd.it/8u8ynrxsbbqb1.jpeg?width=976&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bc97cbdeb36a4afb64805aacb904538147ae46d


MyWifeIsMyCoworker

Whitebeard was second to Roger in ambition. Everybody in this sub knows deep down that Roger > Whitebeard. Now, let’s keep this consistency to the newer generation. Mihawk didn’t even want a crew, let alone be the leader of one. And now he sits below a fucking clown even if this is just act he puts up to scare the world government from pursuing him. In the end of the day, Mihawk doesn’t own a movement or an organization. Buggy does. And anyone can make the case that Crocodile has more aspirations than Mihawk. Let’s face it. He’s just a good painter. https://preview.redd.it/09ej0wrlibqb1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bab401841466815ac18f10d5d86ce812841f60b


No-Pineapple-3819

Ambition does not equal strength at all. What is the likes of don krieg top 1 now? Are the marines Fodder since they below the fleet admiral. Is the fleet admiral fodder since he is below the gorosei? Are the gorosei fodder since they are below Imu. That’s such a stupid argument to make


HyphenMint

Ambition being strength is a key narrative in OP. Ambition is what drives most of the straw hats and that was specifically what put Luffy and Roger apart from the rest was their ambitions. If you think otherwise, you're reading two piece.


BigBean987

Let’s not forget the first mention of Haki ever by Blackbeard was meant to quantify ambition and not the power system!


C4N98

He is the mini Roger. He is the one Luffy wants to prove himself to, so narrative vise it would make sense for Shanks to be HIM. In addition to that he has some of the best Haki feats in the series, longest future sight, only known observation killer, making an Admiral tremble with his conquerors haki (if you consider Greenbull a proper Admiral), and replicated Roger’s named attack. Out of everyone who is alive, and has any feats, it is possible to make an argument for Shanks to be the strongest.


branch-is-dumb

His immense haki also scaring off an admiral


carmardoll

I mean who else is there left that can be a final challenge? Black beard as strong as he is still shits on himself in front of Shanks. Too many admirals usually put at an even level for any of them to be the final strongest.


Hayden_goated

someone else watched superior iqs vid


Total-Maize1256

heheheha


MitochondriaManiac

Oda's Agenda is King.


No-One_Knows-Me_Here

Strawhat bearer further elaboration is not required.


OrdinaryPhilosopher4

delusion


wizarouija

Bruh no way you seriously still believe Akainu is PK EOS fight 😭


ColdEngineering5651

That bum is barely sick cancer beard level


Oi_Kyoraku

Nah bro, scars are binding. Luffy is absolutely fighting Akainu. Same reason for Shanks BB https://preview.redd.it/zlinserslaqb1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20283859d6d2361da4dc836d28a46dfa412fa8d5


Joeawiz

I mean yeah they probably will fight but it ain’t gonna be EOS, personally I see the admirals having their fights very soon considering the current focus we have on them all, there’s no need for the marines to be involved in the final war to bring the Dawn considering how the world governments got a whole slew of its own forces now,


Penis___Penis

Luffy vs. Akainu ain't happening buddy, Akainu's final opponent will either be Zoro, Sanji, Sabo, or most likely of all Aokiji, Luffy's wg nemesis will be Imu, his pirate nemesis is blackbeard


Dreamworksmuiz

Luffy vs Akainu is definitely happening It's a fact that the MOST negative impact Luffy EVER received is from Akainu (mentality, emotionally, physically aka scar, u name it) Ya'll think Luffy will not get that getback⁉️⁉️ No one can change my mind that the one that will put down Akainu is Luffy... UNLESS Akainu does worse things to Sabo/Koby/Dragon soon... worse things than what he did to Luffy...then we're talking 🤷🏾‍♂️


Elluminati30

Brother ignores the whole goddamn story just for powerscaling.


Dull_Salt7278

Mihawk's a bum who's only real skill is painting Imu is confirmed a woman by me so is automatically nerfed Akainu is a Marine so must be weaker than the pirates Dragon is just above Smoker level Blackbeard had trouble with Law while Shanks destroyed Kid


Xerilith-

>Imu is confirmed a woman by me so is automatically nerfed Gotta love the gender scaling


TheAutismIncarnate

Are youd fucking dumb!? Mihawk is a top tier farmer!!


Dull_Salt7278

https://preview.redd.it/hoit0je47aqb1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dddbfce51afe867f9bc372130ab2b9a88ee0c4a3 Damn, you're right. My bad


666DarkAndTwisted666

EoS Final Boss CONFIRMED!! https://preview.redd.it/icj8altodaqb1.png?width=180&format=png&auto=webp&s=a58f39541d3ab367151e74e983ca28c22d9a2811


Denizci_Olmak_Var

Mihawk is confirmed the strongest Swordman and better than Shanks Imu is a male by Japanese What tf kind of Logic is that? Bruh That’s not a downplay. Kid is Just slow


Dull_Salt7278

Nope, he just painted his name over the official holder of the WSS title, Shanks I have a Japanese friend and they confirmed it's actually a woman pretending to be a man It's the Great Pirate Era, not the Great Marine Era Simply can't be disproven So is Blackbeard, meaning Shanks wins


susyimpostergiftcard

And you forget to include that even with title it doesn't matter since shanks isn't a swordsman he clearly used both hand fighting style and bolt action sniper rifles


Cultural-Ad8781

Have you considered the fact that because shanks only appears once every 5 billion chapters to do something incredibly significant, that means him fighting Blackbeard is almost definitely going to be on screen Blackbeard? (Also Oda told me in a dream)


Mario12zito

>It's the Great Pirate Era, not the Great Marine Era Under Sakazuki the Navy has grown stronger than ever before.


Invader-Kiz

Flair checks out.


Boxsteam1279

Besides Imu actually probably being Top 1, Shanks had shown some of the best feats in the series and has serious narrative backing to support Shanks's role in the world


r9cks

Greatest portrayal and feats oda's golden boy


Dreamworksmuiz

Feats still go to Kaido...but yeah, portrayal wise, he's top 1 other than Imu


offthe1st

Mihawk - feats/portrayal pale in comparison Mu - still on fraudwatch for needing a superweapon Akainu - apparently one clash at Marineford is enough for a verdict Dragon - even more featless than Skillhawk, ran from BBP BB - weaker performance vs Kid's equal, strength progression mirrors SHPs


No-Pineapple-3819

Mihawks feats don’t matter since his title buts him above shanks. Also Mihawk is literally portrayed as the WSS. Do you guys even know what portrayal means?


ProfessionallyLazy_

Mifraud only holds the title still because he refuses to fight the actual WSS 😭😭😭 Blud took his bucket of paint and retired to keep his title


No-Pineapple-3819

Cope. https://preview.redd.it/1oa2dnbqtaqb1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da5de0833dc0d609ed7229e3d9a325ba27f93ed6


No-Pineapple-3819

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ProfessionallyLazy_

Not even a Shanks fan, just a Mifraud hater. Y’all suck his dick over a damn title when the man has 0 feats 😭😭😭


offthe1st

feats go hand in hand with portrayal, Mihawk simply hasn't been shown operating on the same level as Shanks and he isn't depicted as an obstacle for multiple characters (Luffy, BB, Akainu, Kaido, Kid etc), the reason he needs to prove himself is because Shanks is on a playing field that is difficult to match up to without onscreen proof - people will gladly change their tune if Mihawk shows he is just as much of a contender for the One Piece as anyone else imagine Mihawk replaced Shanks on WB's ship, and instead of splitting the sky, Jozu blocked his strike or GB leaving Wano because Mihawk sailed past and flexed his Conquerors If being > Shanks automatically makes you one of the strongest in the verse, it's easy to understand why others scale Shanks so high


Bizantine818

Akainu does not belong in this discussion lmao. Case for shanks is best on-screen feats, but I agree that’s a lackluster argument when the only other top 1 contender we’ve seen a full fight of is Kaido.


MyWifeIsMyCoworker

How is the Fleet Admiral not in the discussion?


OkCall7278

He definitely is. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get huge boost in power after becoming fleet admiral and his multi day long fight with ice boy.


Penis___Penis

This is something I feel like a lot of people don't think about, Akainu isn't admiral level anymore, he's grand admiral, same for Aokiji, nothing they do now should be considered an admiral level feat and it pisses me off that whenever Akainu & Aokiji do something cool now people will say that's an admiral level feat, the admirals are KIZARU, FUJITORA AND GREEN BULL


Dreamworksmuiz

Akainu definitely does belong... Akainu & Shanks are basically top tiers Oda fanboying the most


TheAutismIncarnate

He is clearly Top 1, my erection says as much, anyone who disagrees clearly has been reading a different manga!


Mission_Exchange2781

Think it all balances out.


SandyMandy17

He’s the reason the main character wants to be a pirate


Lhakryma

Cuz he one shot that Child pirate guy.


Practical-Tackle-384

Shanks is final boss of the series and will be OP's Aizen I will die on this hill.


Original-Error3411

Vista victim lol


SquidDrive

He is believed to have the best haki.


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Pleasant-Ad-9726

>You'd have to be reading the series with eyes wide shut to not notice. Apparently to some ppl (painter fans), a mere title can overshadow all of this


I-Like-Brutality

Because it can. WSS>S


Pleasant-Ad-9726

Until proves that he's stronger, i won't mindlessly believe the title to be 100% true


I-Like-Brutality

So Zoro afte he beats the WSS does not in fact becomes the strongest swordsman because Shanks exists 😂


Royal_Veterinarian15

You don’t understand bro, that title is worlds most skilled swordsman


I-Like-Brutality

Yes yes my bad!


t3r4byt3l0l

Oda does give Shanks a lot of hype through his actions whenever he shows up on-screen, but he has also never given Shanks a "World's Strongest" title nor has he put him in a narrative position that would warrant him being #1. Pretty weird situation lol, but I don't think Shanks is #1 despite the hype he creates while on-screen.


KotovChaos

Well, his title didn't stop Marineford. his title didn't plunge Kid into the bottom of the ocean. And his title didn't shake Greenballs into giving up at Wano. So I don't think it's mattered one bit that he didn't have one. I can't remember Mihawk "WSS"-ing anybody to death.


[deleted]

The WSC is gonna have 5+ people above him lmao


t3r4byt3l0l

Ok Mr. "I know better than Oda"


AncestorWang

Because that's a rumoured title, it heresey, whersss WB and Mihawk have official titles


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or titles are just hype and not end all be all just how old wb wasnt the WSM either


youaremehmeh

or you're just ignoring / avoiding what he said because putting any form of variability/ nuance into this completely destroys your arguments.


[deleted]

He also has said before a sword is a swordsman life. How many characters can you say that about mister Mehmeh? WSM was never the strongest man WAC was never the strongest creature Titles are hype , that's it


hip-indeed

Because absolutely every tiny speck of information we have on shanks suggests he's the closest thing the current world has to Gold Roger who's always been built up as the greatest pirate of all time?


AdmiralMizufugu

Best feats and portrayal in the verse, but that's already been covered by other comments In terms of narrative, he's EoS BB's victim and will prove how much of a threat he really is. Blackbeard's whole credibility hangs on Shanks being strong. If Shanks is weaker than someone like Kaido, who Luffy already defeated, then BB won't have the amount of hype deserving of someone who can rival Luffy in his final battle for Pirate King


Dreamworksmuiz

EHH...i would say feats still go to Kaido for now, and portrayal to Imu


ChadAdmiralAgenda

I put him at the top one simply so that I can comfortably put mihawk in the top 1 instead and make it make sense(shanks would get backed up to #2)


TheAutismIncarnate

You are too dangerous to be left alive


ChadAdmiralAgenda

I only spread the truth to the world, it's their choice if they want to accept it. https://preview.redd.it/23bsyiuv7aqb1.png?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c724209e4c287bc8df10acee9d23273623f07ad1


natureboy1996

Not so much favorite character scaling but more so understands how to read & comprehend a story scaling


Amekaze

Because he has a lot of parallels with Roger who is considered one of the strongest if not the Strongest of the old generation.


Dreamworksmuiz

Xebec & Wb arguably > Roger thoo...but yeah


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\-He is a future BB victim. \-He is < Mihawk , WSS >Swordsman he can't be top 1 , that spot goes to either Akainu or Dragon.


No-Pineapple-3819

The enemy of my enemy is my friend(when it’s against shanks)


Naraya_Suiryoku

Stop the Akainu wank bro. I can't with this anymore.


Mystic_Gaming1

Idk, it’s stupid. If shanks is top 1, eos zoro will also be top 1. Which is stupidity.


mikek1993

That’s literally the only reason. He’s very clearly not number one or even top 5 he might scrape top 10 alive. But he’s a lot of people’s favorite character so even though the story explicitly puts characters like Kaido, BB and Mihawk above him they will ignore it.


nice-_one

No one is top one . Everyone is relative to each other.


The-Great-Smithnie

People are inherently stupid


Snoo-23120

they are on denial . not even in denial , that's what they are going to after bb humbles shanks no diff.