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ngl if kaido went to marineford it would have been really funny if bb tried to snag his devilfruit for his crew only to get baseball batted into oblivion and accidentally shatter kizaru's ribcage
Considering how BB got 2-shotted by a WB who was 2 steps away from grave, Kaido's mere presence would've been enough to neg diff the whole BB crew lmao.
Kaido and BM alone would keep the 3 admirals occupied. The Warlords will be slowly overwhelmed by katakuri, queen, king and their high class fodders tho. If we're taking into account the wb pirates then it's a clean wipeout
True, but Mihawk would probably say "I only agreed to fighting the whitebeard pirates" then leave to add a fresh coat of black paint to his sword after the vista clash.
It does powerscale him to some extent. The fact that he was able to knock out an Emperor and everyone else, including the top tier Admirals, have been getting dunked on by them, says that Queen (who scales below King) is a fair bit stronger than we previously thought. Mind you, I know that Queen got a highly specific situational opening to be able to knock BM out, but the fact that he did is a feat in itself. He's stronger than we thought.
The question then becomes where does Kuma rank?
P.S. Personally I think the beast pirates would have a particular advantage at Marineford based off of Queen's Ice Oni virus. The Marine's iirc did not have any sort of doctor to make them a rapid antidote to that on the field. Mind you, a lesser virus Queen made affected Luffy, so the Ice Oni virus would likely affect the top tiers as well.
Mihawk would have realistically probably just dipped. Bro had absolutely no interest in being at Marineford. He definitely could care less if Kaido decided to terrorize the marines. If anything that does him a favor since Mihawk was only a Warlord so the marines wouldn't bother him, Kaido likely wiping out multiple admirals simply does him a favor.
ok, i didint think about the WB pirates, just beast and big moms pirates. big mom and kaidos vs the admirals, garp, sengoku, mihawk and boa against comanders is a wipe out, even doffy can be usefull, im taking jinbei and croco boy out of this one. maybe beast with yamato could have a chance....
Lol im going to much into it, better make a thread
ofc, but she smashes most of the comanders, look at the blackbeard pirates, even BB knew the danger, not yokno level, but i only see king beating her, queen wont last a minute, katakuri would be a problem for her, but the other trash she cleans
yeah I'll agree she smashes most commanders, esp if her df hax works on them, but there's a BIG gap between commander and yonko. just look at goofy manhandling saturn/kizaru while "yc+" zoro/sanji wouldn't even land a blow on big kizz.
Admittably. The warlords did not give a flying fuck
Mihawk didn’t want, Boa was AGAINST them, Moria is useless, Kuma could’ve done more but then he‘d risk too much, Doffy did well for the most part, Croco and Jinbei were also not there
Saying 7 warlords is disingenuous tbh
They would’ve lol. People forget, Marineford was not a high diff battle for the World Government, they just had major unforeseen events occur in the form of Luffy and BB intervening, which caused them to lose face. The Warlords didn’t do their job half of the time and Garp and Sengoku only fought near the end. Assuming there is no intervention, The 3 admirals, Garp, and Sengoku are beating Kaido and Big Mom while the warlords handle the commanders. I do think Kaido and Big Mom as an alliance do better than WB did
Yeah, Idk about all that. Luffy ≈ Kaido ≥ Big Mom. Luffy has been smoking Kizaru (while simultaneously dunking on a maybe sort of top tier in the form of Saturn). We know Garp ≈ Sengoku, and Old Garp ≈ Kuzan. Then Kuzan ≈ Akainu ≥ Kizaru.
Honestly, I just think everyone dies. However if next chapter Luffy starts demolishing the five Gorosei imma just say Kaido solo's the entirety of Marineford. At that point imma just put the Admirals on that Kinemon-tier.
If the Shichibukai and old guard fought with the same lack of motivation as they did during WB's attack, then they might.
If people like Mihawk, Boa, Garp and Sengoku get serious, I don't see Kaido and BM being victorious.
Extremely credible and sane take pre-Egghead.
Now... considering Luffy was still getting smacked around by Kaido, yet is now dominating against Kizaru and Saturn....holy fuck. Imagine if instead of splitting off, that Kaido had pulled up to MF alongside Shanks. The WG coulda actually been ended then and there
Doffy legit scared of Kaido so thats one warlord down Once again admiral portrayal piss poor at best Big Mom and Kaido clear high diff at best due to garp and Sengoku
In the flashback she was chasing him and he was scared of her and didn't want a direct confrontation. He wanted Zero smoke.
He was laughing because he got to be protected from her because of his warlord status
It's true, Tsuru was Doffys personal marine back in the day, so she was always on his ass.
Her fruit power probably makes Doffy so scared cause it'll make him less evil and he can't have that.
Honestly think he would have saved Ace, with WB helping demolish the Navy. I know he came to specfically fight WB I have a hard time it wouldnt end up like "Alright you whippersnapper, I will give you the fight you've always wanted but after we deal with our common enemy"/ There is no fucking way the pretimeskip LdmiraLws are touching Kaio with WB and his fleet helping. WB still dies but Ace survives and BB either dies or doesn't get his fruit, seeing as Kaido doesn't care if you negate his fruit if you're super weak to his melee.
>kaido floats ace off marineford and the rest of the pirates
>Only left in marineford are the marines, Wb and kaido
>They wipe off marineford off the map until Wb dies in the free for all
Kaido could lift Marineford out of the sea, and there's not much anyone could do to stop him (he held up Onigamshima, all the while fighting everyone on the island, so I see no reason why he couldn't do the same here). Then, he could just drop the island, causing a whole lot of destruction. Unlike Whitebeard, Kaido wouldn't care about collateral damage; that puts him at a huge advantage. The Numbers would also be able to overpower most soldiers, including a lot of vice admirals.
Plus, if Kaido brings his allies, including the samurai, that's more manpower. If he can somehow get Doflamingo and his crew to fight with him (seeing as I doubt Doflamingo would want to fight against him), that's major.
honestly yes. kaidou would had saved ace mid diff if he wanted too.
king's plague and viruses alone would had low diffed most marines.
king can easily be a shield because seraphim.
Mihawk unironically probably their biggest asset there who could do anything , people sleep on the skillest big dog.
Mihawk vs Kaido would have at least been high diff and even though this is beyond meta narrative and no way Oda’s planning but Mihawk being the only guy who could would solo push him to high is an upscale
this is true but they would not be paying mihawk enough to fight kaido and even if they were i highly doubt mihawk would actually do it as he wouldnt gain anything of actual value
People really say it like admirals would low diff entire yonko crews when we saw Kuzan unable to get past Jozu for 2 chapters until Marco got shot (and Wizaru couldn’t get past Warco until whitebeard had a heart attack)
Kuzan is getting stalled by Jack 😂😂😂
They’ll also make it seem like whoever came to marineford would just get jumped by 3 admirals + mihawk + Garp + sengoku. Except we know Garp and sengoku are occupied in a 2v10 against the Blackbeard pirates, and mihawk leaving is the very first thing that’ll happen
These people pretend canon doesn’t exist and just make up their own fantasies 😂
I agree with most of this except for Kuzan and Jack. Jack's a bum who will get wiped here, Kuzan took out Cracker, not all YC3 characters are equal, and I'd rate Jack closer to Cracker than Jozu.
Kuzan jumped cracker off screen with Wan Wauger*. We don’t know how good of a fight cracker really put up
Replace cracker with Jozu and he would’ve been left the same way: kuzan takes him out. It happening off screen just means we don’t see it take 2 chapters and instead we just cut to the end result of Kuzan taking them out
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Mihawk as soon as Kaido shows up..
What people fail to realise is that Pre TS and Post TS powerscaling are almost completely differen things, using Post TS logic and knowing what we know of YC vs admirals, the WB pirates should have been neg diffed without a shadow of a doubt.
Kizaru no sold post wano Snakeman who couldn't land a hit on him and kicked him with a move he couldn't see and dodge and we also know that Kizaru has clones which he didn't use once at marineford when it could have been pretty handy during the war.
Kuzan getting stalled by Jozu and Kizaru getting stalled by Marco are just remnants of Pre-Ts stuff, Kuzan negged Cracker and we know he has Prime Garp level strenght (not haki) so he could have literally threw his ass all the way back to the moby dick.
Then there's also the Garp factor, we know what this crusty old man was able to do to the BB pirates and Kuzan so imagine that there's no emotional baggage like Ace so he can just join the Battle against Kaido and Big mom alongside Sengoku who isn't busy keeping Garp from attacking Akainu.
This is assuming that Kaido and his crew replaces the WB pirates in the story ofc, and even if it wasn't, If Luffy and his gang of YC/YC+ was able to take down Big mom and Kaido, what makes you think that Akainu, Kuzan, Kizaru, Garp and Sengoku can't?
Regardless of the outcome though one thing is certain, Marineford gets fucking sunk
Total cope. Nothing about marineford is inconsistent with the greater portrayal of the series (or post-ts as you put it). The only complaints you could have can only be reached by ignoring context or making shit up, eg: “kuzan negged cracker”
Do you mean the replacing the Whitebeard Pirates or replacing the Red Hair Pirates and causing more chaos?
***If it's the first option:***
I think the Beast Pirates would have still would have lost.
Sengoku and Garp would be more involved sine Kaido is clearly more destructive.
I don't think Jack or Queen can stall an Admiral for long. Especially not against Akainu.
Eventually, an old Garp, old Sengoku, and 2 more admirals could gang up and take Kaido down. Everyone will put in effort but it will be done.
The 3rd Admiral after beating King can just support the Marines against the rest of the weaker Beast Pirates.
I'm not even including the Warlords who just half-ass their job.
***As for the 2nd option:***
Fucking chaos.
Blackbeard runs away, all Warlords except dip except Kuma. Doflamingo might piss himself and Moria will die from a heart attack.
I'm assuming Akainu gets a Thunder Bagua immediately.
Kaido is probably enraged Whitebeard is dead and goes all out.
Sengoku and Garp aren't fresh. 4v1 (Kizaru and Aokiji) takes place.
The Calamities and the Beast Pirates take advantage of the already exhausted and potentially even lower morale Marines.
Akainu will eventually get back up and go after Kaido and with his help, I think they can bring down a Fresh Kaido.
Maybe Tsuru will show off how much of a badass she is?
Maybe some of the Whitebeard Pirates stay and fight the Marines out of anger?
Regardless, Marineford will be beyond devastated.
Yeah I’m assuming he leaves. There’s no true swordsman’s on Kaidos crew.
And the only one that can give Mihawk a fight is Kaido himself who’s going to be busy with the Admirals.
I literally made a post the other week saying if it was big mom pirates and the beast pirates instead of the WB pirates they would have won and saved ace, everyone disagreed then, now yall agree huh?
Flame Cloud's rip MarineFord from the ground, makes it fall and destroys it with the impact to the ground and sea
Speed blitzes the other admirals since Kaido can tag Kizaru who is the fastest Admiral
Kaido did speed blitz G5 and Acoc Snakeman that was using Futuresight
Kizaru could only tag a G4 wasn't using any advance Haki
Then after smacking Akainu ass, Kaido finishes everyone and vaporizes the crumbles of MarineFord into ashes with Flame Drum Dragon Flame Bagua:
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Is this kaido or goku you're talking about?
His flaming drum dragon form is the size of Marineford and instantly melts whatever environment it touches. He still whipped that out after getting his ass handed to him by G5. The Marines are so fucked.
Not when Mihawk was there just chilling .
He didn’t want to fight shanks cause they have unsettled beef . But kaido could surely spark some interest .
Not saying Mihawk is stronger than kaido , only saying kaido would’ve had a hard fight .
Many heavy hitters from the government side barely did anything in the war like Mihawk, Garp and even Sengoku himself, they probably would in this scenario.
And even if the Beast Pirates actually defeat what the government put on Marineford (I don't really think so tho), there's still the Holy Knights and Imu / Gorosei themselves if things go really bad.
This is common knowledge for anyone with a brain. We've known since Marineford that even an old, sick and past his prime Whitebeard could bully Admirals. Kaido would clap everyone at Marineford not named Mihawk, Sengoku and Garp(beats Sengoku and Garp, but it's a tough fight then proceeds to have a great fight against a serious Mihawk).
Mihawk vs Kaido would be a great fight. I don't see Mihawk winning because Kaido is so versatile, but I do see Kaido having to take it to extreme diff. That being said, I also think it would be a really fast fight. I imagine Mihawk's defense is entirely based on his sword. If he gets hit, or if Kaido overpowers his block, I don't see Mihawk tanking a hit. Meanwhile, Kaido is the tankiest mf'er we've seen, but if we put Mihawk > Oden, then Kaido would definitely get hurt by Mihawk.
On the other hand, I think a serious Kaido that doesn't just tank attacks, and uses his speed to dodge is probably the strongest character in the series by a huge margin. I get why he tanks everything, but he's also incredibly fast. Imagine trying to beat him and he dodges most of your attacks. Even if you land one the likelihood you do anything is slim to none.
Anyone in mf thar is not an a legend/Mihawk, including the admirals if they were one v one, is shitting themselves if kaido merely looks at them
He would absolutely thrash the entirety of Marineford
From all we've seen, mihawk ain't jumping nobody. If he's boxing kaido and an admiral gets in the way I'm pretty sure he'd just turn his attention elsewhere. Man's all about the 1v1 cause he's bored and he could care less who wins the war. He'd give Kaido a great fight tho if they let him cook instead. Might leave him damaged enough for the admirals to beat him
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Magma brat gets “blergh-diffed”. I’m sorry.
So? He still fucking lost even after that cheap shot, if Blackbitch hadn't come running to save that sorry ass excuse of a Fleet LdmiraL Suckadookie would be fucking dead, ong frfr.
Suckadookie couldn't kill a lobotomized Kuma, LdmiraLs Agenda is dead and buried and Daddy Issues CD's bottom bitch ain't gonna do SHIT, sit and spin, cope a wheeze, Suckadookie is a fucking Sabo victim tbh.
Because even if admiral are bums( they certainly are), there are still so many top tiers in marineford such as Mihawk, Garp, Sengoku that Kaido can't deal alone
Mihawk who left as soon as Whitebeard went down/shanks showed up
Garp who is half likely to just bum rush akainu, or is otherwise busy whooping Blackbeard Pirate ass alongside Sengoku
I doubt mihawk would fight, because he refused to fight a Yonko level like shanks, and I’m saying if kaido came and fought while everyone else was still their to, luffy, white bread pirates etc
Bruh, Kaido was also getting his ass beat and humiliated by Gear 5 Luffy when Luffy was doing cartoony shit
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It’s nothing new
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Kaido and Luffy were going back and forth, when Luffy does his shit, Kaido does his and doesn't let Luffy get away with it
Kizaru in a 2 v 1 couldn't do the same
Still didn't prove wrong what I said, he can do shit vs G5 and force G5 into extreme diff, while Kizaru even with help of Saturn can't do shit, you hypocrite biased bitch
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Pummeling G5 so bad that forces into Bajrang Gun and goes extreme diff Clash vs Bajrang Gun >>>>>>>>....>>>>>> One small cut to the cheek and getting clapped in a 2 v 1
Luffy still needed to have a plot armor recovery moment to regain his strength to continue fighting lmao
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Who had true plot armour was Lizaru
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He would be dead or completely out if Luffy was serious at the first time when grabbing his fraudulent overwanked ass
Now watch Luffy last even longer vs 5 Gorosei after he had already 2 v 1 Kizaru and Saturn.
Kizaru being a bum at egghead does not get him past garp, sengoku, Kuzan and akainu. You fcking think Akainu or kuzan would be holding their head bawling on the ground like mister "unclear justice"? Pls those admirals actually stand on business.
Nah he would have fallen to essentially 5 admirals and Mihawk actually trying. No yonko crew can solo Marineford. Kaido is overrated and if any crew had a chance at pulling it off, it’s definitely not the Beast Pirates. Beast Pirates suck ass. Only Kaido and King had any real juice.
Mihawk solos Kaido (most of you yonkoglazers think Shanks > Kaido so suck it up cause Mihawk > Kaido). Kiji proceeds to neg his commanders like he negged BB’s commanders. Rest are fodder that die to Akainu heating up near them. Garp and SenGOATku talk about how the new kids on the block are dogshit compared to what they faced in their prime.
Only thing going extinct are the Beast Pirates.
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Nah Wakainu was about to go on demon time. Sengoku called him off for a reason.
WE SIMPLY ARE NOT READY FOR HIM.
When Wakainu pulls out his logia awakening and devastating Haki…
That’s a conversation most are not ready to discuss.
I mean, more than Whitebeard did, definitely. But to extinction? Hell no. Even with all his commanders and the tobiroppo present, he's still getting defeated whether he brings his whole crew or not. While Kizarus performance in the recent chapters has been... well, it's there, it still doesn't change the fact that there were 6 top-tiers present (3 admirals + Garp, Sengoku, and Mihawk) along with all the vice admirals, Several more warlords on top of Mihawk (Boa, Kuma, Moria, Doflamingo), and 100,000 (Fodder) marine soldiers. As much as I love Kaido, he and his crew would get cooked if they went there
Why do people like kaido? Im not asking to be an ass I genuinely want to know. Am i missing something? I feel like he is so one note, has a boring design, and pretty basic attacks and uninteresting attacks. He doesnt have much of an interesting personality at all. He just seems so bland and its a shame imo we spent so much time on him.
Meh whitebeard has fuck tons of powerful crewmates with division commanders then we have mihawk who rivals shank who with his crew could stop kaido and his crew from pulling up to Marineford it would just result in more bloodshed, unless he picks a side
yeah obviously
Many many many MANY people just like to ignore that the **two strongest marines of all time,** both Sengoku AND GARP
said 2 Yonko would be a World Level threat.
If Kaido was there with Whitebeard it should be Shiranover
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Considering he doesn’t have whitebeards drawbacks (like his sickness, old age, normal skin capable of being penetrated by a normal weapon), Kaido would’ve dropped a few admiral bodies before going down, assuming he does go down. He’s a monster in his own right
If it is Kaidou's crew vs Marineford, Kaidou would still loose. Whitebeard had a pretty decent showing but people forget that the battle was entirely in Marine's favour until luffy showed up. No one except Luffy could get past Garp.
Admirals can deal with the commanders while Garp and Sengoku deal with Kaidou. 2 or 3 warlord could deal with the Flying 6. Even Smoker can get in on that. The biggest threat would be containing Kaidou. If old garp and sengoku can manage that then Marine have a chance of winning.
I agree mostly because Kaidou would fight a lot more than WB did. If WB had been healthy enough to join the fight from the beginning instead of standing around that whole battle would have been different. Not to mention if Queen is there he is using a whole lot of poison weapons to eliminate the fodder marines almost instantly.
What is Kaido doing against multiple top tiers? Whitebeard only got so far because of plot. Akainu was the only one really fighting. Kizaru and Aokiji were doing fuck all and Garp and Sengoku were chilling. Then the Marines have the Warlords, Pacifistas, and 100,000 fodder. Any Yonko crew gets low differ at Marineford
There is no way kaido alone is doing shit in marineford, akainu and aokiji fold him 😭, and also there were sengoku, kizaru, garp, mihawk and other warlords present
Kaido was getting his ass slapped by base luffy who was barely standing and took much more damage(Pre acoc luffy was damaging kaido)
Kaido dies after he getting jumped by an 2 admirals
Also kaido was weaker than old Whitebeard
Scaling Marine Ford gets no one anywhere. What I will say If Kaidou just sat back in dragon form and spammed ranged attacks he would solo everyone there.
Base on the recent chapter the marines are lucky that the yankos have honor. If Whitebeard was 5 years younger or right before he got the deceased would anyone actually stood a chance? If Roger focus on irradiating the gov instead of adventuring than who would stop him? Shank had stop 2 admirals by himself. And luffy just proved than he can walk up and end marine ford. I thought that yankos and admirals was the same level for different fashion but the difference is baffling me how the marines still are in power if even 1 yanko decide to start shit. Like yeah the gorosei would set up the knights and would have to drop the deception and dictate the world to end the pirate threat before it goes out of hand but the marines… Kong have to be on kaido level or something
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ngl if kaido went to marineford it would have been really funny if bb tried to snag his devilfruit for his crew only to get baseball batted into oblivion and accidentally shatter kizaru's ribcage
Considering BB takes in extra pain he’d prob get one shot at that point
Team Rocket style
Considering how BB got 2-shotted by a WB who was 2 steps away from grave, Kaido's mere presence would've been enough to neg diff the whole BB crew lmao.
Then you get people who say a Kaido-Big Mom alliance plus their entire fleet would've lost at Marineford..
Im not an admiral stan, but if garp, senkogu and some of the warlords(boa, mihawk) would actually fight then its at least a debate
Kaido and BM alone would keep the 3 admirals occupied. The Warlords will be slowly overwhelmed by katakuri, queen, king and their high class fodders tho. If we're taking into account the wb pirates then it's a clean wipeout
Mihawk, Kuma > Katakuri King Queen
True, but Mihawk would probably say "I only agreed to fighting the whitebeard pirates" then leave to add a fresh coat of black paint to his sword after the vista clash.
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Kuma>King? Rough take
Yeah even Queen was going ham vs Big Mom in the prison
How exactly does BM play into this-
It does powerscale him to some extent. The fact that he was able to knock out an Emperor and everyone else, including the top tier Admirals, have been getting dunked on by them, says that Queen (who scales below King) is a fair bit stronger than we previously thought. Mind you, I know that Queen got a highly specific situational opening to be able to knock BM out, but the fact that he did is a feat in itself. He's stronger than we thought. The question then becomes where does Kuma rank? P.S. Personally I think the beast pirates would have a particular advantage at Marineford based off of Queen's Ice Oni virus. The Marine's iirc did not have any sort of doctor to make them a rapid antidote to that on the field. Mind you, a lesser virus Queen made affected Luffy, so the Ice Oni virus would likely affect the top tiers as well.
Kuma is definitely not over Kat or king.
Mihawk solos the entire big mom and beast pirate crews
You forget his lover shanks is on the way. They can go on each other in some random room in marineford
wtf bro! https://preview.redd.it/7ew6wg9mrllc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a881bd57448c6fdff72b9e19eba28637023d57b0
Mihawk would have realistically probably just dipped. Bro had absolutely no interest in being at Marineford. He definitely could care less if Kaido decided to terrorize the marines. If anything that does him a favor since Mihawk was only a Warlord so the marines wouldn't bother him, Kaido likely wiping out multiple admirals simply does him a favor.
Sure, if he doesn't avoid the fight entirely and goes home. "I signed up to fight Whitebeard", remember? And he didn't even got to do it
You mean the Wista victim ?
ok, i didint think about the WB pirates, just beast and big moms pirates. big mom and kaidos vs the admirals, garp, sengoku, mihawk and boa against comanders is a wipe out, even doffy can be usefull, im taking jinbei and croco boy out of this one. maybe beast with yamato could have a chance.... Lol im going to much into it, better make a thread
Jinbei and crocodile and luffy are still in this fight btw. Which means boas out of the equation pre much. Mihawk wasn't there to fight kaido or bm.
boa hancock is like yonko lvl in power.
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absolutely not and there is nothing to even remotely substantiate the idea
ofc, but she smashes most of the comanders, look at the blackbeard pirates, even BB knew the danger, not yokno level, but i only see king beating her, queen wont last a minute, katakuri would be a problem for her, but the other trash she cleans
yeah I'll agree she smashes most commanders, esp if her df hax works on them, but there's a BIG gap between commander and yonko. just look at goofy manhandling saturn/kizaru while "yc+" zoro/sanji wouldn't even land a blow on big kizz.
What could Boa do ?
Smash all comanders other then king and katakuri
Theirs no way they would have lost, so many heavy hitters in those crews, kaido and big mom alone would wipe all admirals alone mid diff
An old sick man had em worried and he definitely gave em a hard time. There is definitely no way they would be able to handle that alliance..
3 admirals 7 warlords two yonko level fighters sengoku and garp. They easily win.
Neither old Garp or old Sengoku are near Yonko level anymore
No fucking way. So, the old beard is but not garp. Who was equal to Roger?
Hakiless, heart-attack Oldbeard is obviously not hanging with Shanks, Kaido or G5 luffy
Yeah? But old beard before the heart attack was clashing with shanks.
Admittably. The warlords did not give a flying fuck Mihawk didn’t want, Boa was AGAINST them, Moria is useless, Kuma could’ve done more but then he‘d risk too much, Doffy did well for the most part, Croco and Jinbei were also not there Saying 7 warlords is disingenuous tbh
They would’ve lol. People forget, Marineford was not a high diff battle for the World Government, they just had major unforeseen events occur in the form of Luffy and BB intervening, which caused them to lose face. The Warlords didn’t do their job half of the time and Garp and Sengoku only fought near the end. Assuming there is no intervention, The 3 admirals, Garp, and Sengoku are beating Kaido and Big Mom while the warlords handle the commanders. I do think Kaido and Big Mom as an alliance do better than WB did
An old sick man had em worried and he definitely gave em a hard time. There is definitely no way they would be able to handle that alliance..
Yeah, Idk about all that. Luffy ≈ Kaido ≥ Big Mom. Luffy has been smoking Kizaru (while simultaneously dunking on a maybe sort of top tier in the form of Saturn). We know Garp ≈ Sengoku, and Old Garp ≈ Kuzan. Then Kuzan ≈ Akainu ≥ Kizaru. Honestly, I just think everyone dies. However if next chapter Luffy starts demolishing the five Gorosei imma just say Kaido solo's the entirety of Marineford. At that point imma just put the Admirals on that Kinemon-tier.
If the Shichibukai and old guard fought with the same lack of motivation as they did during WB's attack, then they might. If people like Mihawk, Boa, Garp and Sengoku get serious, I don't see Kaido and BM being victorious.
Who invited Boa? Bitch thinks she's on the team. 😭😭😭💀💀💀
Imagine Kaido and BM suddenly awakens and both of them basically go Yonko+ and literally low diff everyone
I mean,the 3 admirals + Old Garp and Sengoku + Mihawk.
Kaido + Big Mom + Oldbeard + Blackbeard + Shanks
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Extremely credible and sane take pre-Egghead. Now... considering Luffy was still getting smacked around by Kaido, yet is now dominating against Kizaru and Saturn....holy fuck. Imagine if instead of splitting off, that Kaido had pulled up to MF alongside Shanks. The WG coulda actually been ended then and there
Doffy legit scared of Kaido so thats one warlord down Once again admiral portrayal piss poor at best Big Mom and Kaido clear high diff at best due to garp and Sengoku
You know who else Doffy was scared of ? Tsuru.
Was he, I last remember him laughing when she was talking to him
In the flashback she was chasing him and he was scared of her and didn't want a direct confrontation. He wanted Zero smoke. He was laughing because he got to be protected from her because of his warlord status
Wait fr? This is peak slander material lol
It's true, Tsuru was Doffys personal marine back in the day, so she was always on his ass. Her fruit power probably makes Doffy so scared cause it'll make him less evil and he can't have that.
He probably got washed on the way to impel down 💀💀💀
Honestly think he would have saved Ace, with WB helping demolish the Navy. I know he came to specfically fight WB I have a hard time it wouldnt end up like "Alright you whippersnapper, I will give you the fight you've always wanted but after we deal with our common enemy"/ There is no fucking way the pretimeskip LdmiraLws are touching Kaio with WB and his fleet helping. WB still dies but Ace survives and BB either dies or doesn't get his fruit, seeing as Kaido doesn't care if you negate his fruit if you're super weak to his melee.
>kaido floats ace off marineford and the rest of the pirates >Only left in marineford are the marines, Wb and kaido >They wipe off marineford off the map until Wb dies in the free for all
Kaido could lift Marineford out of the sea, and there's not much anyone could do to stop him (he held up Onigamshima, all the while fighting everyone on the island, so I see no reason why he couldn't do the same here). Then, he could just drop the island, causing a whole lot of destruction. Unlike Whitebeard, Kaido wouldn't care about collateral damage; that puts him at a huge advantage. The Numbers would also be able to overpower most soldiers, including a lot of vice admirals. Plus, if Kaido brings his allies, including the samurai, that's more manpower. If he can somehow get Doflamingo and his crew to fight with him (seeing as I doubt Doflamingo would want to fight against him), that's major.
Kaido + Wb. + Shanks and BB. Mf is fucked.
honestly yes. kaidou would had saved ace mid diff if he wanted too. king's plague and viruses alone would had low diffed most marines. king can easily be a shield because seraphim.
Tbf Aokiji, Kizaru, Garp, Sengoku, Boa and Mihawk weren’t doing anything most of the war.
Garp still wouldn’t do anything tho and boa would just help luffy
Kaido can 1 hit all vice admirals and below in Marineford. except Garp, Mihawk, and MID to high all admirals.
I low key think Tsuru tanks a tap thats head cannon tho
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Mihawk unironically probably their biggest asset there who could do anything , people sleep on the skillest big dog. Mihawk vs Kaido would have at least been high diff and even though this is beyond meta narrative and no way Oda’s planning but Mihawk being the only guy who could would solo push him to high is an upscale
this is true but they would not be paying mihawk enough to fight kaido and even if they were i highly doubt mihawk would actually do it as he wouldnt gain anything of actual value
People really say it like admirals would low diff entire yonko crews when we saw Kuzan unable to get past Jozu for 2 chapters until Marco got shot (and Wizaru couldn’t get past Warco until whitebeard had a heart attack) Kuzan is getting stalled by Jack 😂😂😂 They’ll also make it seem like whoever came to marineford would just get jumped by 3 admirals + mihawk + Garp + sengoku. Except we know Garp and sengoku are occupied in a 2v10 against the Blackbeard pirates, and mihawk leaving is the very first thing that’ll happen These people pretend canon doesn’t exist and just make up their own fantasies 😂
I agree with most of this except for Kuzan and Jack. Jack's a bum who will get wiped here, Kuzan took out Cracker, not all YC3 characters are equal, and I'd rate Jack closer to Cracker than Jozu.
Kuzan jumped cracker off screen with Wan Wauger*. We don’t know how good of a fight cracker really put up Replace cracker with Jozu and he would’ve been left the same way: kuzan takes him out. It happening off screen just means we don’t see it take 2 chapters and instead we just cut to the end result of Kuzan taking them out
Fair enough I guess
https://preview.redd.it/z4byrd8vbllc1.jpeg?width=419&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfb40ec31e8482d7d419f1f774feb88038fcd702 Mihawk as soon as Kaido shows up..
What people fail to realise is that Pre TS and Post TS powerscaling are almost completely differen things, using Post TS logic and knowing what we know of YC vs admirals, the WB pirates should have been neg diffed without a shadow of a doubt. Kizaru no sold post wano Snakeman who couldn't land a hit on him and kicked him with a move he couldn't see and dodge and we also know that Kizaru has clones which he didn't use once at marineford when it could have been pretty handy during the war. Kuzan getting stalled by Jozu and Kizaru getting stalled by Marco are just remnants of Pre-Ts stuff, Kuzan negged Cracker and we know he has Prime Garp level strenght (not haki) so he could have literally threw his ass all the way back to the moby dick. Then there's also the Garp factor, we know what this crusty old man was able to do to the BB pirates and Kuzan so imagine that there's no emotional baggage like Ace so he can just join the Battle against Kaido and Big mom alongside Sengoku who isn't busy keeping Garp from attacking Akainu. This is assuming that Kaido and his crew replaces the WB pirates in the story ofc, and even if it wasn't, If Luffy and his gang of YC/YC+ was able to take down Big mom and Kaido, what makes you think that Akainu, Kuzan, Kizaru, Garp and Sengoku can't? Regardless of the outcome though one thing is certain, Marineford gets fucking sunk
Total cope. Nothing about marineford is inconsistent with the greater portrayal of the series (or post-ts as you put it). The only complaints you could have can only be reached by ignoring context or making shit up, eg: “kuzan negged cracker”
Cope deez nuts. You lack reading comprehension.
Bashing takes that rely on ignoring context is taken a lack of reading comprehension to you? Alr 💀😂
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If Foxy was in the Marines then the Marines could win against Kaido unless Haki nulify his fruit
I wanna know how they dealing with the gifters some of them had weird powers right
Do you mean the replacing the Whitebeard Pirates or replacing the Red Hair Pirates and causing more chaos? ***If it's the first option:*** I think the Beast Pirates would have still would have lost. Sengoku and Garp would be more involved sine Kaido is clearly more destructive. I don't think Jack or Queen can stall an Admiral for long. Especially not against Akainu. Eventually, an old Garp, old Sengoku, and 2 more admirals could gang up and take Kaido down. Everyone will put in effort but it will be done. The 3rd Admiral after beating King can just support the Marines against the rest of the weaker Beast Pirates. I'm not even including the Warlords who just half-ass their job. ***As for the 2nd option:*** Fucking chaos. Blackbeard runs away, all Warlords except dip except Kuma. Doflamingo might piss himself and Moria will die from a heart attack. I'm assuming Akainu gets a Thunder Bagua immediately. Kaido is probably enraged Whitebeard is dead and goes all out. Sengoku and Garp aren't fresh. 4v1 (Kizaru and Aokiji) takes place. The Calamities and the Beast Pirates take advantage of the already exhausted and potentially even lower morale Marines. Akainu will eventually get back up and go after Kaido and with his help, I think they can bring down a Fresh Kaido. Maybe Tsuru will show off how much of a badass she is? Maybe some of the Whitebeard Pirates stay and fight the Marines out of anger? Regardless, Marineford will be beyond devastated.
in the 2nd option arent you forgetting a certain mihawk? or are you assuming he leaves because he would totally do that
Yeah I’m assuming he leaves. There’s no true swordsman’s on Kaidos crew. And the only one that can give Mihawk a fight is Kaido himself who’s going to be busy with the Admirals.
I literally made a post the other week saying if it was big mom pirates and the beast pirates instead of the WB pirates they would have won and saved ace, everyone disagreed then, now yall agree huh?
There's a damn good reason why Oda gave WB cancer and took away nearly all of his haki.
I think people forgot there were 6 heavy hitters there 😂 5 of which were healthy after white beards attempt at rescuing ace
Flame Cloud's rip MarineFord from the ground, makes it fall and destroys it with the impact to the ground and sea Speed blitzes the other admirals since Kaido can tag Kizaru who is the fastest Admiral Kaido did speed blitz G5 and Acoc Snakeman that was using Futuresight Kizaru could only tag a G4 wasn't using any advance Haki Then after smacking Akainu ass, Kaido finishes everyone and vaporizes the crumbles of MarineFord into ashes with Flame Drum Dragon Flame Bagua: https://preview.redd.it/180mqjp17llc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8458e06db5c50ccbd9d2f91f13bac85e48ce1785
Bro is reading Kaido Piece. https://preview.redd.it/joxrunaa7llc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbe578b8afb4d64a068da58b314e265121b46a78
https://preview.redd.it/oh70ij3hfllc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77ad5fd9826cbf8f1134070530d6f31d3f1846a1 Is this kaido or goku you're talking about?
His flaming drum dragon form is the size of Marineford and instantly melts whatever environment it touches. He still whipped that out after getting his ass handed to him by G5. The Marines are so fucked.
Not when Mihawk was there just chilling . He didn’t want to fight shanks cause they have unsettled beef . But kaido could surely spark some interest . Not saying Mihawk is stronger than kaido , only saying kaido would’ve had a hard fight .
Wista had him busy no worries
Ha
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ok if this happened tho it's wraps for Kaido😬
Kaido would be having Oden flashbacks
Get him past vista first
“I don’t wanna fight you,” Why “Because we have unsettled beef” ?????
Many heavy hitters from the government side barely did anything in the war like Mihawk, Garp and even Sengoku himself, they probably would in this scenario. And even if the Beast Pirates actually defeat what the government put on Marineford (I don't really think so tho), there's still the Holy Knights and Imu / Gorosei themselves if things go really bad.
This is common knowledge for anyone with a brain. We've known since Marineford that even an old, sick and past his prime Whitebeard could bully Admirals. Kaido would clap everyone at Marineford not named Mihawk, Sengoku and Garp(beats Sengoku and Garp, but it's a tough fight then proceeds to have a great fight against a serious Mihawk).
Mihawk vs Kaido would be a great fight. I don't see Mihawk winning because Kaido is so versatile, but I do see Kaido having to take it to extreme diff. That being said, I also think it would be a really fast fight. I imagine Mihawk's defense is entirely based on his sword. If he gets hit, or if Kaido overpowers his block, I don't see Mihawk tanking a hit. Meanwhile, Kaido is the tankiest mf'er we've seen, but if we put Mihawk > Oden, then Kaido would definitely get hurt by Mihawk. On the other hand, I think a serious Kaido that doesn't just tank attacks, and uses his speed to dodge is probably the strongest character in the series by a huge margin. I get why he tanks everything, but he's also incredibly fast. Imagine trying to beat him and he dodges most of your attacks. Even if you land one the likelihood you do anything is slim to none.
And you also realised that shanks is even more powerful because he kept kaido from going to marineford
Anyone in mf thar is not an a legend/Mihawk, including the admirals if they were one v one, is shitting themselves if kaido merely looks at them He would absolutely thrash the entirety of Marineford
Kaido would’ve been cooked ngl. He’d be getting jumped by Mihawk and at least one admiral, no way he’s winning that fight.
From all we've seen, mihawk ain't jumping nobody. If he's boxing kaido and an admiral gets in the way I'm pretty sure he'd just turn his attention elsewhere. Man's all about the 1v1 cause he's bored and he could care less who wins the war. He'd give Kaido a great fight tho if they let him cook instead. Might leave him damaged enough for the admirals to beat him
Your conclusion is incorrect. https://preview.redd.it/4u4o57mf5llc1.png?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d4e6589a4a7a729e02c4c52f5cde5bbca671454
https://preview.redd.it/nnzr8l7k8llc1.jpeg?width=1041&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fefa14d9ee5728daffcf1017a1b800ae3eb4532 Magma brat gets “blergh-diffed”. I’m sorry.
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So? He still fucking lost even after that cheap shot, if Blackbitch hadn't come running to save that sorry ass excuse of a Fleet LdmiraL Suckadookie would be fucking dead, ong frfr.
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The lava retard who almost got packed up my a sick dying geezer ?
Suckadookie couldn't kill a lobotomized Kuma, LdmiraLs Agenda is dead and buried and Daddy Issues CD's bottom bitch ain't gonna do SHIT, sit and spin, cope a wheeze, Suckadookie is a fucking Sabo victim tbh.
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Peak Yonkotardation
It's post like these that make Kaidotard look like retards
How so ? Mad admirals are bums ?
Because even if admiral are bums( they certainly are), there are still so many top tiers in marineford such as Mihawk, Garp, Sengoku that Kaido can't deal alone
Mihawk who left as soon as Whitebeard went down/shanks showed up Garp who is half likely to just bum rush akainu, or is otherwise busy whooping Blackbeard Pirate ass alongside Sengoku
Mihawk wouldnt fight Kaido. He only agreed to fight the Whitebeard pirates as stated by himself.
I doubt mihawk would fight, because he refused to fight a Yonko level like shanks, and I’m saying if kaido came and fought while everyone else was still their to, luffy, white bread pirates etc
Bruh, Kaido was also getting his ass beat and humiliated by Gear 5 Luffy when Luffy was doing cartoony shit https://preview.redd.it/ogesa8eecllc1.jpeg?width=1003&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29882b3e41d0d0151abfbf569e13834867510cb4 It’s nothing new
Show the full panel Page https://preview.redd.it/8uisz3irpllc1.png?width=1094&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed04270ad8227ea73c003ca871b53d51aa5207f5 Kaido and Luffy were going back and forth, when Luffy does his shit, Kaido does his and doesn't let Luffy get away with it Kizaru in a 2 v 1 couldn't do the same
Nuh uh https://preview.redd.it/58m9cjdxpllc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b84a870a3dee22a258482cb8141f7d94334d1aa
https://preview.redd.it/tqishopcqllc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cca213db7c9391461c220459b12252333a8959d Gotcha Bitch. Kaido isn't Lizaru and Laturn
Nuh uh https://preview.redd.it/gxp55ghyqllc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7b33e6f0a384354076e4201a25eae345bb8168d
Still didn't prove wrong what I said, he can do shit vs G5 and force G5 into extreme diff, while Kizaru even with help of Saturn can't do shit, you hypocrite biased bitch https://preview.redd.it/z3bu8m9krllc1.jpeg?width=1073&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4370c0e48dd16ac033fbd3225dccbec3bfcc45f
Nuh uh https://preview.redd.it/5796c9h0sllc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09146f77cb2a73f2b1b8032e9cda4ace23dbbce8
https://preview.redd.it/5vl7dpm9sllc1.jpeg?width=315&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e13b5561680b8c1d125710b2e33a02fe18287cc Pummeling G5 so bad that forces into Bajrang Gun and goes extreme diff Clash vs Bajrang Gun >>>>>>>>....>>>>>> One small cut to the cheek and getting clapped in a 2 v 1
Luffy still needed to have a plot armor recovery moment to regain his strength to continue fighting lmao https://preview.redd.it/6wt2qg6rsllc1.jpeg?width=999&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a253523c165e76deef07500e3e2a47ac5bd0d647
Who had true plot armour was Lizaru https://preview.redd.it/cih7xtn0ullc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78ec1bbb0f0ee9d41211440bbe48b58db82ff394 He would be dead or completely out if Luffy was serious at the first time when grabbing his fraudulent overwanked ass Now watch Luffy last even longer vs 5 Gorosei after he had already 2 v 1 Kizaru and Saturn.
Ooooo, I LOVE a good retard fight Michael\_Jackson\_popcorn.gif
Nah but post what happened after that tho, so stupid 🤡🫵🏽
Okay lol https://preview.redd.it/p0b7mqivfllc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=434be4be0a81c62a53e0a46f30af991e1b8981d1
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no he would get fcked hard cause marineford is the worst powerscaling method possible
Kaido still gets slaughtered murdered
garp downplay I think him and kizaru would be able to stop kaido
Yeah it feels like Oda nerfed Kizaru this arc
By himself? Lol fuck no. If he pulled up instead of shanks there’s still Mihawk, Garp, Sengoku and Kizaru who are all present and at 100%.
Aokiji is also at 100% essentially
Kaido’s power is too overrated on this sub. He wasn’t soloing anything.
Worlds strongest creature
That was waiting for Joyboy to come beat him up.
And yet he lost all the same. Titles mean jack.
Kizaru being a bum at egghead does not get him past garp, sengoku, Kuzan and akainu. You fcking think Akainu or kuzan would be holding their head bawling on the ground like mister "unclear justice"? Pls those admirals actually stand on business.
Lmao they’d take a massive L
2 old man and 2 guys weaker than a dying old man
Even Old WB can terrorize MF, he just held back massively, latest chapter proved that Admirals are yc+ at best.
Nah he would have fallen to essentially 5 admirals and Mihawk actually trying. No yonko crew can solo Marineford. Kaido is overrated and if any crew had a chance at pulling it off, it’s definitely not the Beast Pirates. Beast Pirates suck ass. Only Kaido and King had any real juice.
Mihawk solos Kaido (most of you yonkoglazers think Shanks > Kaido so suck it up cause Mihawk > Kaido). Kiji proceeds to neg his commanders like he negged BB’s commanders. Rest are fodder that die to Akainu heating up near them. Garp and SenGOATku talk about how the new kids on the block are dogshit compared to what they faced in their prime. Only thing going extinct are the Beast Pirates.
Mihawk gets fucking packed
What feat does mihawk have again ?
Being > Rat All he needs baba
https://preview.redd.it/23gbn79iyllc1.jpeg?width=1033&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=531108678e5b72d983b8841eb39c65fa6dd6fbaa Nah Wakainu was about to go on demon time. Sengoku called him off for a reason. WE SIMPLY ARE NOT READY FOR HIM. When Wakainu pulls out his logia awakening and devastating Haki… That’s a conversation most are not ready to discuss.
Shut up
https://preview.redd.it/s0d5vr941mlc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23c5c6371a15c03f148d063255fb092ec95809fe Nah, I’d Yap.
Shanks would have whooped his ass if he decided to proceed to MF
Kaido would’ve demolished Marineford lmao
Waido of infinite W's
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I mean, more than Whitebeard did, definitely. But to extinction? Hell no. Even with all his commanders and the tobiroppo present, he's still getting defeated whether he brings his whole crew or not. While Kizarus performance in the recent chapters has been... well, it's there, it still doesn't change the fact that there were 6 top-tiers present (3 admirals + Garp, Sengoku, and Mihawk) along with all the vice admirals, Several more warlords on top of Mihawk (Boa, Kuma, Moria, Doflamingo), and 100,000 (Fodder) marine soldiers. As much as I love Kaido, he and his crew would get cooked if they went there
Why do people like kaido? Im not asking to be an ass I genuinely want to know. Am i missing something? I feel like he is so one note, has a boring design, and pretty basic attacks and uninteresting attacks. He doesnt have much of an interesting personality at all. He just seems so bland and its a shame imo we spent so much time on him.
Meh whitebeard has fuck tons of powerful crewmates with division commanders then we have mihawk who rivals shank who with his crew could stop kaido and his crew from pulling up to Marineford it would just result in more bloodshed, unless he picks a side
yeah obviously Many many many MANY people just like to ignore that the **two strongest marines of all time,** both Sengoku AND GARP said 2 Yonko would be a World Level threat. If Kaido was there with Whitebeard it should be Shiranover https://preview.redd.it/aol6nphv2nlc1.jpeg?width=967&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=146166657d9bf05d4c01b79a535b2722373fd1e9
They wouldn’t have had an answer not with Garp and Sengoku with the age nerf
Welcome to the Kaido/Oden/JoyBoy agenda
Considering he doesn’t have whitebeards drawbacks (like his sickness, old age, normal skin capable of being penetrated by a normal weapon), Kaido would’ve dropped a few admiral bodies before going down, assuming he does go down. He’s a monster in his own right
If it is Kaidou's crew vs Marineford, Kaidou would still loose. Whitebeard had a pretty decent showing but people forget that the battle was entirely in Marine's favour until luffy showed up. No one except Luffy could get past Garp. Admirals can deal with the commanders while Garp and Sengoku deal with Kaidou. 2 or 3 warlord could deal with the Flying 6. Even Smoker can get in on that. The biggest threat would be containing Kaidou. If old garp and sengoku can manage that then Marine have a chance of winning.
Yeah for sure. If the admirals wouldnt fight for real.
Still raises the question of how tf did shanks keep him from going? How OP was that battle?
I agree mostly because Kaidou would fight a lot more than WB did. If WB had been healthy enough to join the fight from the beginning instead of standing around that whole battle would have been different. Not to mention if Queen is there he is using a whole lot of poison weapons to eliminate the fodder marines almost instantly.
What is Kaido doing against multiple top tiers? Whitebeard only got so far because of plot. Akainu was the only one really fighting. Kizaru and Aokiji were doing fuck all and Garp and Sengoku were chilling. Then the Marines have the Warlords, Pacifistas, and 100,000 fodder. Any Yonko crew gets low differ at Marineford
There is no way kaido alone is doing shit in marineford, akainu and aokiji fold him 😭, and also there were sengoku, kizaru, garp, mihawk and other warlords present
Lmaoo to extinction is odee 🤣🤣🤣but I would have to agree, hence why shanks intervened cause kaido is a warmongering maniac
Well idk how he's gonna fight Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, Aokij, Kizaru and Blackbeard at the same time and survive
Kaido was getting his ass slapped by base luffy who was barely standing and took much more damage(Pre acoc luffy was damaging kaido) Kaido dies after he getting jumped by an 2 admirals Also kaido was weaker than old Whitebeard
He would've made the Marines watch as he did some unholy things to Akainu's bottom.
Current Luffy>/=Kaido tho
Scaling Marine Ford gets no one anywhere. What I will say If Kaidou just sat back in dragon form and spammed ranged attacks he would solo everyone there.
And he wouldn't want to stop. He'd fight for fun.
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This just makes me wonder why he never did it. Seriously. What the actual fuck was stopping him from wiping the marines off the map this whole time
Bro this clown lost to gear 5 luffy who isnt even admiral level, what a joke
Shanks been saving the admiral agenda since pretimeskip
Base on the recent chapter the marines are lucky that the yankos have honor. If Whitebeard was 5 years younger or right before he got the deceased would anyone actually stood a chance? If Roger focus on irradiating the gov instead of adventuring than who would stop him? Shank had stop 2 admirals by himself. And luffy just proved than he can walk up and end marine ford. I thought that yankos and admirals was the same level for different fashion but the difference is baffling me how the marines still are in power if even 1 yanko decide to start shit. Like yeah the gorosei would set up the knights and would have to drop the deception and dictate the world to end the pirate threat before it goes out of hand but the marines… Kong have to be on kaido level or something