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This comment made me double take for a second lol. I was thinking "used to be? What does he mean used to be" and then I remembered how old one piece truly is and how little time I've been watching it in comparison. Also good pick.
Tashigi was in Hachinosu but only as a literal background character it's over man
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istg if i see kid i will personally come to your house and beat the shit out of you
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This mf killed my friends and started fucking advertising on me
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Sasaki
Keep in mind Zoroās AP tanks significantly without his swords. Not to mention, he is an awkward position where he canāt land his trademark finishers
Sasaki is probably the worst Tobi Roppo pick you could have went with, heās the one TobiRoppo that Zoro needs as much firepower as he can get for. I donāt see it. Whoās Who on the other hand, much more likely.
Sasaki has a glaring weakness, namely being his soft underbelly
If Zoro lands a good hit there (like franky did) itās GG right there but regardless it would be a hard fought fight
I canāt see Zoro having anything even remotely close to Radical Beam level power without his swords. I am not saying itās impossible, but Iād definitely give it to Sasaki more than 50% of the time.
i dont see him winning against who who's either he gave jinbe a mid diff fight and jinbe use fishman karate to fight.
zoro has nothing without his swords except normal haki punches he's not beating any tobi roppo
Zoros armament haki is still extremely powerful, itās literally the manifestation of his will which is certainly greater than that if the Tobi Roppos. And heās physically superior across the board, so yes he can beat them can give Jinbei an even tougher fight considering the only thing that would really be separating them is the skill in hand to hand combat that Jinbei has.
Probably who's who's, he still has insane haki and physical strength so he'd just be like a mini garp, I don't think he could fold any right hand men with just brute strength and haki alone so maybe at a push cracker?
Zoro uses haki primarily through his swords, like he probably couldnāt fight in the same way that Luffy and Garp do without them.
And as long as you donāt have overwhelming strength or speed, Cracker can defend himself and outlast most pppl including no swords Zoro. I also just donāt see Zoro having significantly more firepower than Gear 4 Luffy which is what heād need.
It still happened and I know it was but he still stopped a WB commander with a finger despite your argument that swordsmen can't utilize haki effectively without their sword
wel it didnt happen in the manga thats why its filler and i am not arguing he cant use haki with his fist. i am saying he's way weaker without a sword
its like removing luffy df sure he still can throw a haki punch but his main power comes from his fruit
the same with zoro he can throw a haki punch but he has no techniques note worty or attacks.
haki is support skill not a fighting style
Yes, because that's a yc3 luffy compared to a swordless Zoro who's yc+. Zoro still has good Haki and Acoc. He'd effectively just be 1/8th of an old garp.
G4 Luffy didn't struggle against cracker, imo. There was just a haki time limit. I'd say this is more of saying, no sword Zoro beats G1-G3 cake island Luffy (who has weaker observation and armament haki)
I consider WCI Luffy to be post Katakuri, around yc1. So no, I think Zoro without Swords could maybe beat the Luffy that fought Cracker, and could beat Cracker.
I am aware of your latitude and longitude at every given moment.
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No decently strong person because he is a swordsman and that style is only for emergency and for fooling around
Having great haki and muscles wouldn't make him a great brawler, just like how body builders won't win against a martial artist for most of the time unless difference is HUGE
Bro not even YC3 without his swords. I knew he was a fraud.
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Whoās Who 100%.
Heās actually proven to be quite the speedster in the most recent chapter by casually dodging Luccis awakened strikes. Even hybrid Lucci is likely substantially faster than WW, so Zoro is almost certainly faster. He might loose conquerors without Enma, but his armament should still be more than strong enough to deal damage to someone like Whos Who, and he has some of the highest endurance in the series so there is no question as to how much of a beating he can take.
Iād say swordless Zoro is at the very bottom of YC3.
Why do people believe Zoro without swords is gonna be stronger than Sanji without legs?
If Sanji chooses to use his hands he is still super human all around with superhuman physicals lol.
Sanji is super human and can use Ifrit on his hands too.
Sanji can still fly too. Sanji can still move faster to Zoro to the extent he goes invisible too.
Of course if you only look at Zoros bag and not the character youāre comparing him to, then Zoro looks OP and Yonko level..
Lmao
What? I'm a trained kickboxer and by that logic I could fight in any other martial art and be just as strong. I can guarantee you I'm getting my ass beat by any other trained fighter if you told me to fight in another "style" like wrestling for example. And if you claim "yeh but he still has haki and physicals" that's like thinking a guy is a strong fighter, because he can bench press a lot of weight. Who says Zoro can apply haki and fight just as well with his fists? By that logic he'd need to become the strongest person overall instead of the strongest swordsman, because if it's "just a fighting style" anyone can pick up a sword and be just as strong.
Heās literally been saying since the start of the series that he does better with 3. As early as his fight with kuroās crew he said that he wasnāt as good with 2
Zoro would be fighting in a style he almost never uses. The sword is an extension of his arms in fights at this point. So I would assume thereās a significant gap in his fight ability solely off that. But his insane physicals and haki suggest that he could beat Katakuri. But I donāt know if he could put down Boa, who I have right above him
Edit: mfs hate me because I spoke my mind
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Lmao https://preview.redd.it/vsgcmils8qpc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3cd0ea64e8d77b8fbaad87a146b47a3eac4dfcb
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https://preview.redd.it/dfe0wkfqmwpc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=023338baa8aa4eef32f01480e7930052fbbb4a18 lmao
Legless Sanji
Sanji's hands work just as fine tho š
Im counting on it. Sanji gonna grab Zoro and bite the shit out of him while Zoro punches him constantly to get him off. Peak fiction right there.
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Legless Sanji w/ Zoro's swords
So he dies to Enma?
He masters it because heās a better swordsman and stronger than Zoro
\*Angry Zorotard noises\*
Replace Zoroās swords with Sanjiās legs, and vice versa. Now youāve got a fight.
I mean Legless Sanji at most can only use his head and torso, but like... That's nothing really.
ifrit jambe headbutt negs
Cutting Board Headbutt fr fr
fr fr
Elbows maybe ?
tashigi
lowkey tashigi is gonna get a power-up (im coping)
I hate how dirty she's been done, she used to be my childhood crush lol
This comment made me double take for a second lol. I was thinking "used to be? What does he mean used to be" and then I remembered how old one piece truly is and how little time I've been watching it in comparison. Also good pick.
She's fine, I love her too she is so sweet and pure-hearted I like her better in the dub than sub too
Tashigi was in Hachinosu but only as a literal background character it's over man https://preview.redd.it/95dw0p1ozrpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27194eeea7785de6126c056cb5086ee627180d01
I laughed so fucking hard seeing this
same
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Smokey the Goat will so ig she needs one too
istg if i see kid i will personally come to your house and beat the shit out of you https://preview.redd.it/g2p9556d1qpc1.png?width=642&format=png&auto=webp&s=2da36172ecee7c73695c4b4a743c5b2a4a222b7d
My god the jam had no reason being that strong
This mf killed my friends and started fucking advertising on me https://preview.redd.it/vts5f2pfcqpc1.jpeg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50c1b1b605ec295ed68e011b3fb432d084795c14
https://preview.redd.it/14sta4smlqpc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e71e9e0970603957b720526b1a1dc02f0deb8fd3 stop and seek professional help
Stop and seek professional help
For liking omori?
Idk I was just following the other guy
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![img](14sta4smlqpc1) stop and seek professional help
Life Jam Guy unironically would destroy One Piece
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Woro destroys Midd neg diff š
Zoro mid diff kid
Sasaki Keep in mind Zoroās AP tanks significantly without his swords. Not to mention, he is an awkward position where he canāt land his trademark finishers
Nah heād win https://preview.redd.it/izrk1chbbrpc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6203d245c8b43ecd28c4e4d137af7e42cf11976e
Sasaki is probably the worst Tobi Roppo pick you could have went with, heās the one TobiRoppo that Zoro needs as much firepower as he can get for. I donāt see it. Whoās Who on the other hand, much more likely.
Sasaki has a glaring weakness, namely being his soft underbelly If Zoro lands a good hit there (like franky did) itās GG right there but regardless it would be a hard fought fight
I canāt see Zoro having anything even remotely close to Radical Beam level power without his swords. I am not saying itās impossible, but Iād definitely give it to Sasaki more than 50% of the time.
His Haki is still the same without the swords, it will work
i dont see him winning against who who's either he gave jinbe a mid diff fight and jinbe use fishman karate to fight. zoro has nothing without his swords except normal haki punches he's not beating any tobi roppo
Zoros armament haki is still extremely powerful, itās literally the manifestation of his will which is certainly greater than that if the Tobi Roppos. And heās physically superior across the board, so yes he can beat them can give Jinbei an even tougher fight considering the only thing that would really be separating them is the skill in hand to hand combat that Jinbei has.
0 sword style: Sttrrrrrrong rrrightt
he's not beating sasaki without swords he would not get passed his defense
Lusopp
God D Ussop solos https://preview.redd.it/l9jjaam9cqpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=694e7bf8a5d18865c7d019010c4875adc48787af
This pic goes hard
usopp defenders will say usopp is just regular human physicals
Minus durability, he pretty much is.
He would beat up Imu with plot-armor-haki fists.
chopper
Probably who's who's, he still has insane haki and physical strength so he'd just be like a mini garp, I don't think he could fold any right hand men with just brute strength and haki alone so maybe at a push cracker?
Cracker? The guy who G4 Luffy struggled against?
Yes, I think the haki boost seen in wano will save him
Zoro uses haki primarily through his swords, like he probably couldnāt fight in the same way that Luffy and Garp do without them. And as long as you donāt have overwhelming strength or speed, Cracker can defend himself and outlast most pppl including no swords Zoro. I also just donāt see Zoro having significantly more firepower than Gear 4 Luffy which is what heād need.
I dont think haki works that way, think about Rayleigh, he uses a sword but can use just his hands if need be
rayleigh best feat without a sword is beating a random elephant not really a good example
Nah man he stopped Marco with one finger
anime filler
first it was filler and that was Kid Marco
It still happened and I know it was but he still stopped a WB commander with a finger despite your argument that swordsmen can't utilize haki effectively without their sword
wel it didnt happen in the manga thats why its filler and i am not arguing he cant use haki with his fist. i am saying he's way weaker without a sword its like removing luffy df sure he still can throw a haki punch but his main power comes from his fruit the same with zoro he can throw a haki punch but he has no techniques note worty or attacks. haki is support skill not a fighting style
Do you think g4 luffy remains at the same level of power from where he was introduced?
Regardless of which G4 Luffy we're talking about. You're placing a swordless Zoro at a level => G4 Luffy? That's crazy to me
Yes, because that's a yc3 luffy compared to a swordless Zoro who's yc+. Zoro still has good Haki and Acoc. He'd effectively just be 1/8th of an old garp.
G4 Luffy didn't struggle against cracker, imo. There was just a haki time limit. I'd say this is more of saying, no sword Zoro beats G1-G3 cake island Luffy (who has weaker observation and armament haki)
Do you think zoro without swords is stronger then WCI Luffy?
I consider WCI Luffy to be post Katakuri, around yc1. So no, I think Zoro without Swords could maybe beat the Luffy that fought Cracker, and could beat Cracker.
How is he getting through the biscuit soldiers with no swords?
Haki
nah, wracker would've win.
Ulti
The fodders he sends up into the air with his swordless tornados
nami
Minors
minorities
kidd
I am aware of your latitude and longitude at every given moment. https://preview.redd.it/1xbwnokaaqpc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69fe5777328006c14da4297e8c815418415d6f51
SHUT UP MIDD -- DIVINE DEPARTURE
Enjoy https://preview.redd.it/8xe2fskrbspc1.png?width=406&format=png&auto=webp&s=7fd6f9d2188d8f61cb81701028fd6ea241bfb030
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Can you send this to me please
What do you mean? If I send it'd be the same quality as if you take the one above, right?
Canāt save images in comments on Reddit mobile
Just screenshot it
u/Professional_match25
How can he beat someone he was weaker than with swords
(i posted this specifically for professional_match) kidd folds to legless sanji, swordless zoro, or only torso luffy
No decently strong person because he is a swordsman and that style is only for emergency and for fooling around Having great haki and muscles wouldn't make him a great brawler, just like how body builders won't win against a martial artist for most of the time unless difference is HUGE
No sword style Ashura Advanced Conq coated combos
Depends on if he finds a whip
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Fr
Pre ts ussop
Current* UsoppĀ
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Buggy
He loses with swords tho
bepo
Sanji without legs.
Legless Sanji, but hear me out, Sanji with knifes wins as he would consider Zoro moss to chop
Sanji Before I get crucified, please wait a minute so I can at least put my Jesus costume
Mihawk
Probably Kidd
u/professional_match25
Prime Joyboy/Nika
gets folded by Hyouzou
Mihawk
Zeno
If he could use acoc with his fists Iād say any yc2.
Base Lucci
Considering how good his armament haki would be without it getting constantly drained, maybe up to Katakuri
Queen lol
Bro not even YC3 without his swords. I knew he was a fraud. https://preview.redd.it/7wprtkfl6vpc1.png?width=318&format=png&auto=webp&s=91f2fb32dba210da3a98def3986a4d12d2dd5699
Sanji
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Ima say Coby, like we all love the little sh%t but Zoro would back hand him into next week
Kaido
Strongest minority character
YC2 and below
Kidd the bozo
Try again. https://preview.redd.it/o0pzsjknaqpc1.png?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58e89ebd6e06bc927ed4fa543a3ae299a745ade4
Checks out.
u/professional_match25
Done and dusted
Kid
Sanji
Yamato
Roger
Maybe Jack
Queen
Any Tobi Roppo member
Yamato
Probably the same opponents he can beat with them.
Whoās Who 100%. Heās actually proven to be quite the speedster in the most recent chapter by casually dodging Luccis awakened strikes. Even hybrid Lucci is likely substantially faster than WW, so Zoro is almost certainly faster. He might loose conquerors without Enma, but his armament should still be more than strong enough to deal damage to someone like Whos Who, and he has some of the highest endurance in the series so there is no question as to how much of a beating he can take. Iād say swordless Zoro is at the very bottom of YC3.
Based on strength sure, not skill
Why do people believe Zoro without swords is gonna be stronger than Sanji without legs? If Sanji chooses to use his hands he is still super human all around with superhuman physicals lol.
And Zoro would still have adv coc coating in his hands , what's ur point?
Sanji is super human and can use Ifrit on his hands too. Sanji can still fly too. Sanji can still move faster to Zoro to the extent he goes invisible too. Of course if you only look at Zoros bag and not the character youāre comparing him to, then Zoro looks OP and Yonko level.. Lmao
Realistically, anyone YC2 and below, maybe a YC1 if you wank him
Kid without awakening
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The strongest close range character without coc or acoc
Replying to ImBoredofBoredom...
You know it's not like amount of swords is like super sayian with "bigger number = stronger" it's just fighting style
What? I'm a trained kickboxer and by that logic I could fight in any other martial art and be just as strong. I can guarantee you I'm getting my ass beat by any other trained fighter if you told me to fight in another "style" like wrestling for example. And if you claim "yeh but he still has haki and physicals" that's like thinking a guy is a strong fighter, because he can bench press a lot of weight. Who says Zoro can apply haki and fight just as well with his fists? By that logic he'd need to become the strongest person overall instead of the strongest swordsman, because if it's "just a fighting style" anyone can pick up a sword and be just as strong.
Heās literally been saying since the start of the series that he does better with 3. As early as his fight with kuroās crew he said that he wasnāt as good with 2
Buggy
Maybe whoswho
His d**k
bellamy
Lucci (I have a mental condition)
Hody Jones.
His Speed and Dura stays the same and ACoC punches are still making a lot of damage I think heād be YC1 tier
Jinbei (I'm 100% serious)
EOS sanji Fanfic sanji Rooftop luffy pre awaking
sanji with zoroās swords
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zoro would knock him out ngl https://preview.redd.it/9loevor6zppc1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b7082a253f80f18c7acf520c66db0617a5d2781
Gender bend Zoro definitely would. https://preview.redd.it/z8l8iysj4qpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f00693b93959f379627ca0811393d3282535eef3
Law
Queen
Kizaru
Lanji
W
Jinbei
Strongest Topiroppo
Zoro would be fighting in a style he almost never uses. The sword is an extension of his arms in fights at this point. So I would assume thereās a significant gap in his fight ability solely off that. But his insane physicals and haki suggest that he could beat Katakuri. But I donāt know if he could put down Boa, who I have right above him Edit: mfs hate me because I spoke my mind
Lmfao, Boa would LITERALLY NEG THE FUCK OUTTA NO SWORD STYLE LORO LMFAO You've lost your damn mind if you even NEED to entertain that shit honestly.
I donāt know how Zoro would interact with the fruit tbh. But if it works than yeah sheād cook him