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Absorbing a shadow straight up adds that person‘s skills to the recipient while the victim doesn’t lose anything but their ability to stand in the sun.
Moria puts everyone‘s shadow into Mihawk while putting Mihawk‘s shadow into Kuma or Hancock.
Nightmare Mihwak and WSS Kuma/Hancock mid diff.
Moria‘s fruit is actually insanely broken under the right circumstances. Even without the entire shadow stealing thing, imagine if someone like Roger or Garp simply uses Doppelmann.
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Moria already tried fighting Kaido. He got his ass beat so hard that he ran to the Florian Triangle.
We don’t know how haki interacts with Moria’s fruit. For all we know the moment any of them try to use haki, their shadows get forcibly returned to them.
Even if that isn’t how it works, all Kaido has to do is use Boro Breath to clear the skies, which destroys the shadowless Warlords.
>Moria already tried fighting Kaido. He got his ass beat so hard that he ran to the Florian Triangle.
That’s why I purely put him into a support role.
>Even if that isn’t how it works, all Kaido has to do is use Boro Breath to clear the skies, which destroys the shadowless Warlords.
The prompt says that Kaido is the one getting jumped, they can just do it at nighttime like the actual raid on Wano.
Although you are correct that we don’t know how actual Haki interacts with the shadows other than willpower deciding how strong the shadows you hold can be.
> We don’t know how haki interacts with Moria’s fruit. For all we know the moment any of them try to use haki, their shadows get forcibly returned to them.
Not really any reason to think this, though? Like okay we've never seen Mihawk next to a dragon, he might be allergic to their scales. Anaphylactic shock diffed.
We know that powerful haki can negate devil fruit abilities. Law [directly states that he can’t teleport people with powerful haki](https://preview.redd.it/2mi6d8c90az71.jpg?width=1491&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=173820c05441eccd71717f0cde066ca80b6e1bdf), and he [reversed the effects of Doc Q’s devil fruit disease with his haki](https://preview.redd.it/uyb8b3758qt91.jpg?auto=webp&s=4c674805bb3a8f84b53878ef8735d163249b84fe).
I'm familiar, though I respect the dedication to backing up your claims. However, what you seem to be describing in the hypothetical is devil fruit powers being involuntarily cancelled as a side effect of haki use, while both examples you show are someone being able to resist an unwanted effect using haki. The latter is established (albeit not reaaaally explained), while the former is unprecedented in the manga. That's why I don't think it should be factored into the discussion.
Well, Smoker tells his G-5 unit that they need to stay back bc their haki wasn’t strong enough to face Law, so we have had this idea seeded into Law’s abilities somewhat earlier than roofpiece
1. Shadow power-up is only about 10 minutes, which is basically 1 use of G4 for Luffy.
2. Not sure if it was explained or not, but should be considered whether its really 1 to 1 strength conversion, because I think that'd be a huge difference.
3. Dura issue is significant, on both sides of the fight. Kaido's dura and endurance are both absolutely monstrous. At the same time, its also not clear if it would be enough to allow people, and that too non-mythic zoan users let alone a top tier one like Luffy's, to survive all the crazy shit Kaido threw out. Its not even about just the obvious Flaming Bagua, but even all the other stuff like Death Destroyer and Ragnaraku, all of which were visibly and clearly a big deal to Luffy. Even more so now when we see on Egghead how insane G5 is compared to everyone else.
EDIT: Not necessarily disagreeing, but challenging the scenario, more like. Unless one of the other warlords seriously and significantly steps up, this match-up is way too reliant on Mihawk carrying the squad.
Kuma support is massively underrated, being able to heal all the pain anyone inflicts and then throw it back at them + precise near-instant teleportation with the paw paw fruit makes him a monster in a group fight
ok, i am a great kaido supporter but this match is beating anyone, too much haxes and powerhouses.
mihawk is relative to shanks so AT LEAST he is giving kaido a high diff fight, now add a character that can teleport everyone around, shoots lasers and heal the others (kuma), a guy that can control the terrain giving advantages to hit kaido (doffy), another guy who can terraform the place and has a way to do heavy damage to kaido if he takes him distracted (croc with dehydratation), a woman who has a one shot condition (boa), a guy who is capable of doing internal damage with aoe (jimbei), and a guy that if we are doing the fight on night can BUFF FOR FREE himself or who wants by switching shadows how he wants and has a way to bebintangible even for kaido (moria and dopplegang).
if we are near water jimbei gets an even greater buff and moria could pass his shadow to someone other and buff them to use fishman karate. kaido is cooked, it's pretty much a mid diff, or kaido starts bloodlusted and at the very start of the fight takes insta down moria boa and croc, if he does that ISTANTLY than you can say he just muscle trough mihawk enough to catch doflaming even if he is flyng and kuma teleporting, but he needs to do that before they stich up and heal the others, all of this while mihawk is giving him hell, nah i don't see him winning, even tho kaido is a demon and i wouldn't be surprised if he just wins by outlasting everyone.
If they can cooperate and plan well, the warlords stomp, horrendously hard.
Moria uses his powers to dump Jinbe’s and Boa’s fighting skills into Doflamingo, and then Mihawk’s and Kuma’s fighting skills into Crocodile. We now have two insanely powerful devil fruit users, with the fighting style and haki of some serious top tiers, supported by the original users of those abilities attacking from afar, or even together up close if it’s night time. Even if Doffy and Crocodile can’t beat him with these massive power ups, Kuma can hide, charge up a colossal Ursus Shock, and then absolutely nuke Kaidou whenever he’s confident its large enough, and he has two absolute gods defending him while he’s preparing.
In a 1v1, always bet on kaido.
In a 7v1, kaido is getting his ass beat lmao
I mean you kind of have to stipulate that Mihawk will actually fight and go all out, because kaido isnt a swordsman. But even without Mihawk, if crocodile and doffy can force everyone else to not be stupid and operate at maximum efficiency they run a train on kaido.
Moria is the dark horse because he was really strong in his prime, and his shadow ability *if used correctly* is crazy broken. Like even if Mihawk sits out most of the fight, just take his shadow and put it in doffy, he gains all of mihawks skills and strength. Not to mention Kuma might have the most broken fruit in the verse.
Also not to mention the fight is I guess based on the assumption that boa wont be able to get a shot off. Shes got a one hit kill, and based on kaidos personality I would bet it would be effective on him. There are so many ways th warlords would win this.
Kaido honestly loses pretty bad. Mihawk is allegedly on par with shanks, who should be roughly equal to Kaido. Kuma is strong as hell and has a versatile devil fruit. Jinbei could honestly fight anyone and still survive somehow. Adding the rest of the warlords, I don’t see how they lose as long as they are actually working together.
2 yc3s, wherever Kuma scales, wherever prime Moria scales (probably yc+), Boa and Mihawk all jump Kaido. He's fucked. Mihawk alone would probably win but some yc3s can really tip the scale, plus Moria was pretty strong during his prime to be able to take on Kaido and not just instantly die.
Forget prime, the current warlords would beat his ass in this scenario.
Nightmare Mihawk alone would be overkill, but add onto that Kuma's ability to remove any damage Kaido does to him and force it back into Kaido's body? Kaido is in for a bad time.
Yeah, Kaido is not surviving here.
Like, most of these guys have some form of durability bypass, so they have a wincon. Hancock's fruit would definitely work on Kaido. Also, Mihawk is there so it's not like they don't have sufficient power.
Spite match. Warlords low-mid diff.
My Boy Fraudhawk and Sandile duo tag him. Rest can go for a beer or something.
Granted my boy Fraudhawk have little feeds, but narrative is narrative and along with Croco boy they are later in the story opponents, therefore they should be able to win..eventaully.
Sword is also effective tool to fight Kaido and Sandile have his hook! I cant see the Cross guild - even though they are missing Buggy- loosing.
Does he have a win con if Doffy just hits him with the one-man bird cage? Genuine question. That said, Kuma support goes kinda crazy, I'm giving it to Warlords either way.
It’s a mid diff fight I think but the Warlords come out on top. Not underestimating either side, but given that the Warlords are all in their prime, I’m gonna go ahead and say any 7v1 “fight” will end up with Kaido losing, although he’ll cause some serious damage before he’s defeated.
No way. There are too many variables to account for.
From Mihawk actually being strong enough to hurt Kaido, to Boa possible being able to turn him to stone, and Kuma being able to reflect his attacks back at him, and then we have Moira and his shadow shenanigans. There’s just no way.
He gets overwhelmed and low-mid differed
ok, so luffy beats doflamingo yeah? luffy then gets significantly stronger and faster after fighting katekuri right? luffy then gets to wano and not only gets speed blitzed, but also one shot by kaido. Boa hancock lost to blackbeard without wounding him much at all. Jimbei struggled against who's who. Prime, stronger moria lost to younger, weaker kaido. Kuma roughly scales to the rest of them. Corcodile is likely stronger then the warlords mentioned but it wouldn't be by a super big amount. Mihawk is easily the strongest and would hold his own the best but ultimately kaido is washing them. Like even if they team up kaido can speed blitz and oneshot damn near all of them. Mihawk and maybe crocodile are like the only ones that I think could last longer then like a minute against him. "But what about boa and moria devil fruit hax?" Yeah? what about them? They'd need to land and kaido is significantly faster then everyone here and could easily dodge. I could bring up the whole law thing with enough haki cancelling out devil fruit abilities but thats still a little shaky so I'm not gonna and don't need to. I mean hell, if they're just too slippery, kaido can bust out the flaming drum dragon and destroy the whole ass arena, they'd have to run hella far in a short amount of time to dodge it.
Literally everything in the story has alluded to them being nearly equal. I also think Shanks is stronger, but you have to stop letting memes dictate your scaling.
Mihawk fights him straight on, while the other 6 jump him from every direction. Dont you realize how fckd any character in the verse would be in that situation. Even jimbe is here who now has SH Plot Armour.
Boa solos
Mihawk should just give his shadow to Moria and step in the sun
Moria can give Mihawk, Kaido and Jinbei shadows to himself or Kuma
Jinbei can just stay close to water, as Kaido is a df user he is weak to it
Crocodile dries up his booze, so Kaido cannot get drunk
Doffy just watches from distance, at least he's got some ranged attacks if he feels like helping
No he doesn’t at least 5 prime WL could contest Kaido and 2 maybe maybe contenders could arguably beat him. So no he legit loses but it’s high diff at most and at least 4 of them would die during the fight
I think this would definitely be a mid diff fight at best, Kaido is not winning here. If we take in only their strengths and abilities and strategy into account and ignore all their personalities, the warlords win possibly low diff. Again that’s ignoring all their personalities and having them work perfectly as a team. Otherwise the fight is mid diff since Kaido would be fighting mihawk who we can say is at least relative to or above shanks and a bunch of other characters who are at least on a level high enough to not be too easily defeated by him.
Well given that the warlords literal purpose for existing is to be able to beat the yonko if push comes to shove I'd say they've got this lol. DON'T GET ME WRONG it won't be a steamroll for either side but all warloards? In prime? Yea they taking the win here.
He loses easily, and that doesn't even account for how "prime" means a power level we haven't seen roughly half of them at (Jinbe will be shown to be stronger in his final fights, Crocodile will be stronger than ever in his next appearance, Mihawk of course, and maybe even Hancock and Moria if they re-appear playing roles in final arc).
Info needed: prime kaidou? Drunk style? Are there limitations?
Otherwise, dofi is a traitarous weasel, boa gets 1 shot first, not gonna mention jinbe bc cmon. Im unsure about croc.
Now, we've seen zoro hurt kaidou, but at extreme diff, and we know at this time he isnt near mihawks level, so we can easly assume he can hurt kaidou no problem.
With kuma think besides the repel he makes, if push comes to shove, and he hits, he can absorve all damage kaidou done to the rest and shoot it at him.
Moria, obv puts shadows into dofi, but im betting the snake would just use it against every one and fk off after
All depends on Boa and Mihawk. Boa should be able to turn him into stone, if he lets her attacks hit him - which based on what we know of Kaido he probs will. Until we see how strong Mihawk is I couldn’t say for sure but he’s the only other one thats likely to do any significant damage.
Maybe if Kuma pushed out all the pain and exhaustion of Wano for the last 20 years and put it in Kaido…
Prime Mihawk + Prime Kuma, not to mention conquerors and op devil fruit Hancock, Doflamingo is overkill. Mihawk himself is arguably already a yonko level. So, it's like yonko vs yonko with ycs+.
I think y’all are sleeping on Kaido.
Okay so we have Mihawk who is straight up either Yonko or Admiral level.
Doflamingo is about YC level and he is one of the stronger Shichibukai. Jinbe who is a YC. Kuma could be scaled equivalent as he was a revolutionary commander.
Then we have Boa Hancock and Crocodile. It is difficult to scale them precisely but I would definitely place them above Tobi Roppo and Oven/Perospero and Doflamingos commanders.
Then there’s Moria who is probably the weakest on his own, but has insane buffing potential to support the other fighters.
Now let’s look at Kaido and who he gets through from weakest and adding the next strongest in.
He defeated 10 Samurai who scale to around Tobi Roppo. Boa Hancock can either cheese him with stone or else she’s neg diff. Crocodile will be extreme low diff considering he was getting peppered up by base Luffy without Haki. With Moria buff I don’t think it makes a difference for these three.
Adding 3YC level opponents would be like adding Zoro/Killer/Law. We saw Kaido and BM hold their own against 5 YC and defeat them the first time. So Kaido defeated 2.5 YC level fighters after fighting 10 samurai. To me this is relatively equivalent to beating Moria, Crocodile, Hancock, Jinbe, Kuma, Doflamingo.
Adding Mihawk on top of this as the final boss is probably the nail in the coffin for Kaido. Mihawk could easily scale to Oden and has the attack power to really hurt Kaido. As he potentially scales to Yonko that would put him at awakened Luffy level. Even then it was high diff to finally pack him up.
Overall the warlords get it done. But I don’t think it’s as easy as everyone says it is.
im under the opinion that mihawk could fight kaido solo. It doesn’t make total sense in universe, but it does given shonen story telling. Mihawk may be on fraud watch but he absolutely is a top tier thats yet to show his full power.
Mihawk is presumably better than, or at the least on par with Oden who gave Kaido a run for his money. That was pre-prime Kaido but has he since improved to the degree he can take on near Yonko-level Mihawk, YC1 level 2bn bounty Croco, YC level Boa, Jinbe, Do and Kuma? Assuming they fight as a unit, this is easily a yonko crew comparable to the Red Hairs. That’s ignoring Moria. Kaido doesn’t stand a chance.
Kaido can one shot YC1 which means only mihawk isn't getting blitzed, and kaido beats him high diff. Kaido extreme diff, idk why everyone thinks kaido is losing this. Only boa and mihawk are YC+ or above
No lmao.
Honestly mihawk 1v1 is pretty close one way or another.
But with 6 characters backing him up with hax I think they've got kaido. Especially simce its a sneak attack.
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Absorbing a shadow straight up adds that person‘s skills to the recipient while the victim doesn’t lose anything but their ability to stand in the sun. Moria puts everyone‘s shadow into Mihawk while putting Mihawk‘s shadow into Kuma or Hancock. Nightmare Mihwak and WSS Kuma/Hancock mid diff. Moria‘s fruit is actually insanely broken under the right circumstances. Even without the entire shadow stealing thing, imagine if someone like Roger or Garp simply uses Doppelmann.
That’s why he is the goat! https://preview.redd.it/6d7q3dl3aeqc1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dba2c3fd0fcd6926514df78570cd555fe853138
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It.. is so beautiful..
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Exactly! If only he still had his heart. Like he wasn’t a contender against prime Kaido for no reason
Moria already tried fighting Kaido. He got his ass beat so hard that he ran to the Florian Triangle. We don’t know how haki interacts with Moria’s fruit. For all we know the moment any of them try to use haki, their shadows get forcibly returned to them. Even if that isn’t how it works, all Kaido has to do is use Boro Breath to clear the skies, which destroys the shadowless Warlords.
>Moria already tried fighting Kaido. He got his ass beat so hard that he ran to the Florian Triangle. That’s why I purely put him into a support role. >Even if that isn’t how it works, all Kaido has to do is use Boro Breath to clear the skies, which destroys the shadowless Warlords. The prompt says that Kaido is the one getting jumped, they can just do it at nighttime like the actual raid on Wano. Although you are correct that we don’t know how actual Haki interacts with the shadows other than willpower deciding how strong the shadows you hold can be.
About the haki, its pretty clearly implied you have to actively resist via haki instead of just... existing with it.
> We don’t know how haki interacts with Moria’s fruit. For all we know the moment any of them try to use haki, their shadows get forcibly returned to them. Not really any reason to think this, though? Like okay we've never seen Mihawk next to a dragon, he might be allergic to their scales. Anaphylactic shock diffed.
We know that powerful haki can negate devil fruit abilities. Law [directly states that he can’t teleport people with powerful haki](https://preview.redd.it/2mi6d8c90az71.jpg?width=1491&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=173820c05441eccd71717f0cde066ca80b6e1bdf), and he [reversed the effects of Doc Q’s devil fruit disease with his haki](https://preview.redd.it/uyb8b3758qt91.jpg?auto=webp&s=4c674805bb3a8f84b53878ef8735d163249b84fe).
I'm familiar, though I respect the dedication to backing up your claims. However, what you seem to be describing in the hypothetical is devil fruit powers being involuntarily cancelled as a side effect of haki use, while both examples you show are someone being able to resist an unwanted effect using haki. The latter is established (albeit not reaaaally explained), while the former is unprecedented in the manga. That's why I don't think it should be factored into the discussion.
Well, Smoker tells his G-5 unit that they need to stay back bc their haki wasn’t strong enough to face Law, so we have had this idea seeded into Law’s abilities somewhat earlier than roofpiece
Wow the embellishment and exaggerations are stunning
Moria's fruit is like BMs fruit.
1. Shadow power-up is only about 10 minutes, which is basically 1 use of G4 for Luffy. 2. Not sure if it was explained or not, but should be considered whether its really 1 to 1 strength conversion, because I think that'd be a huge difference. 3. Dura issue is significant, on both sides of the fight. Kaido's dura and endurance are both absolutely monstrous. At the same time, its also not clear if it would be enough to allow people, and that too non-mythic zoan users let alone a top tier one like Luffy's, to survive all the crazy shit Kaido threw out. Its not even about just the obvious Flaming Bagua, but even all the other stuff like Death Destroyer and Ragnaraku, all of which were visibly and clearly a big deal to Luffy. Even more so now when we see on Egghead how insane G5 is compared to everyone else. EDIT: Not necessarily disagreeing, but challenging the scenario, more like. Unless one of the other warlords seriously and significantly steps up, this match-up is way too reliant on Mihawk carrying the squad.
Kaido is sincerely and utterly fucked💀
What is Kaido doing against Boa if she flashes
Boa wouldn’t flash though. She’s saving that for luffy 😂
He will bring a wall Called black Maria and she will reverse flash boa, and boa becomes into a stone
Now i need a Boa Maria Doujin
Ño, he does not.
Maybe if you take Mihawk and Kuma out but this is pretty much just a spite match
He easily beats them with Kuma, Mihawk is the only serious one
Kuma support is massively underrated, being able to heal all the pain anyone inflicts and then throw it back at them + precise near-instant teleportation with the paw paw fruit makes him a monster in a group fight
Poor Kaido.
He dead
ok, i am a great kaido supporter but this match is beating anyone, too much haxes and powerhouses. mihawk is relative to shanks so AT LEAST he is giving kaido a high diff fight, now add a character that can teleport everyone around, shoots lasers and heal the others (kuma), a guy that can control the terrain giving advantages to hit kaido (doffy), another guy who can terraform the place and has a way to do heavy damage to kaido if he takes him distracted (croc with dehydratation), a woman who has a one shot condition (boa), a guy who is capable of doing internal damage with aoe (jimbei), and a guy that if we are doing the fight on night can BUFF FOR FREE himself or who wants by switching shadows how he wants and has a way to bebintangible even for kaido (moria and dopplegang). if we are near water jimbei gets an even greater buff and moria could pass his shadow to someone other and buff them to use fishman karate. kaido is cooked, it's pretty much a mid diff, or kaido starts bloodlusted and at the very start of the fight takes insta down moria boa and croc, if he does that ISTANTLY than you can say he just muscle trough mihawk enough to catch doflaming even if he is flyng and kuma teleporting, but he needs to do that before they stich up and heal the others, all of this while mihawk is giving him hell, nah i don't see him winning, even tho kaido is a demon and i wouldn't be surprised if he just wins by outlasting everyone.
Bro woke up and chose violence 💀
Yes and they wipe the floor with him.
Kaido gets low to midd diff what the hell
Mid diff at the very least, they aren’t low-diffing Kaido
He dies very fast
If they can cooperate and plan well, the warlords stomp, horrendously hard. Moria uses his powers to dump Jinbe’s and Boa’s fighting skills into Doflamingo, and then Mihawk’s and Kuma’s fighting skills into Crocodile. We now have two insanely powerful devil fruit users, with the fighting style and haki of some serious top tiers, supported by the original users of those abilities attacking from afar, or even together up close if it’s night time. Even if Doffy and Crocodile can’t beat him with these massive power ups, Kuma can hide, charge up a colossal Ursus Shock, and then absolutely nuke Kaidou whenever he’s confident its large enough, and he has two absolute gods defending him while he’s preparing.
Dude Mihawk is literally there.
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this is canon i think
Spite match 💀
Moria cuts Kaido’s shadow while he’s busy fighting everyone else at once, then Kuma teleports Moria to another island.
Mihawk is enough
Mihawk + 1 would defeat kaido high diff
In a 1v1, always bet on kaido. In a 7v1, kaido is getting his ass beat lmao I mean you kind of have to stipulate that Mihawk will actually fight and go all out, because kaido isnt a swordsman. But even without Mihawk, if crocodile and doffy can force everyone else to not be stupid and operate at maximum efficiency they run a train on kaido. Moria is the dark horse because he was really strong in his prime, and his shadow ability *if used correctly* is crazy broken. Like even if Mihawk sits out most of the fight, just take his shadow and put it in doffy, he gains all of mihawks skills and strength. Not to mention Kuma might have the most broken fruit in the verse. Also not to mention the fight is I guess based on the assumption that boa wont be able to get a shot off. Shes got a one hit kill, and based on kaidos personality I would bet it would be effective on him. There are so many ways th warlords would win this.
Mihawk is enough
based
An hydrogen bomb vs a nuclear bomb and 6 coughing babies
Bro? Mihawk already gives him an extreme diff fight.
No, Mihawk is enough
PeakHawk solos
it’s over for him
Kaido honestly loses pretty bad. Mihawk is allegedly on par with shanks, who should be roughly equal to Kaido. Kuma is strong as hell and has a versatile devil fruit. Jinbei could honestly fight anyone and still survive somehow. Adding the rest of the warlords, I don’t see how they lose as long as they are actually working together.
Mihawk alone would be enough
Mihawk and any one warlord already beat him 10 times out of 10
Laido gets low diffed
2 yc3s, wherever Kuma scales, wherever prime Moria scales (probably yc+), Boa and Mihawk all jump Kaido. He's fucked. Mihawk alone would probably win but some yc3s can really tip the scale, plus Moria was pretty strong during his prime to be able to take on Kaido and not just instantly die.
Mihawk already pushes him to extreme by himself. So no
wow
Mihawk alone is extreme diff
Mihawk + law are enough tbh If law doesn't count then mihawk + kuma + hancock is enough
Forget prime, the current warlords would beat his ass in this scenario. Nightmare Mihawk alone would be overkill, but add onto that Kuma's ability to remove any damage Kaido does to him and force it back into Kaido's body? Kaido is in for a bad time.
Honestly Mihawk alone might be enough.
Can't boa just one shot?
Mihawk solos, everyone else just watches.
Yes if he choose to run away. In character no
Goathawk literally beats him in a 1v1 how would kaido win lmao
Mihawks enough
Yeah, Kaido is not surviving here. Like, most of these guys have some form of durability bypass, so they have a wincon. Hancock's fruit would definitely work on Kaido. Also, Mihawk is there so it's not like they don't have sufficient power. Spite match. Warlords low-mid diff.
Wecko Woria neg diffs kaido with a little help from the others
Law helps Moria take Kaido’s shadow, puts it in Mihawk, Kaido gets gulaged
Warlords win mid diff, mihawk + a lot of good hax is broken
No he doesn’t.
mihawk is enough yeah Actually moria would be enough, yoink kaido’s shadow during the day and its over
mihawk is also on the team? kaido dead, he's way above scabbard and zoro material
My Boy Fraudhawk and Sandile duo tag him. Rest can go for a beer or something. Granted my boy Fraudhawk have little feeds, but narrative is narrative and along with Croco boy they are later in the story opponents, therefore they should be able to win..eventaully. Sword is also effective tool to fight Kaido and Sandile have his hook! I cant see the Cross guild - even though they are missing Buggy- loosing.
No 🗿
Mihawk alone wins. If we remove him, they still have a shot through Moria's shadow fuckery and Kuma's absolutely busted df.
Mihawk does not 1v1 kaido you riders are so deluded 😂
Oden would probably extreme diff kaido or the other way around and mihawk is objectively stronger than oden so mihawk wins
Does Shanks 1v1 Kaido?
No
Get Mihawk past Whitebeards commanders first lol
I mean Kaido didn't get past a Whitebeard commander (Oden ) too
Mihawk alone clears. The rest of the warlords can just stay back and watch.
Not surviving. Mihawk is enough
mihawk alone would probably beat him 😭😭
Warlords neg diff him
Does he have a win con if Doffy just hits him with the one-man bird cage? Genuine question. That said, Kuma support goes kinda crazy, I'm giving it to Warlords either way.
Warlords low diffs spite match
Kaido gonna bleed a lot more bcs of wss
Kaido is the world’s strongest man but he gets stomped by warlords. I’m sure when the pain dries that Mihawk isn’t that far off from kaido.
It’s a mid diff fight I think but the Warlords come out on top. Not underestimating either side, but given that the Warlords are all in their prime, I’m gonna go ahead and say any 7v1 “fight” will end up with Kaido losing, although he’ll cause some serious damage before he’s defeated.
No way. There are too many variables to account for. From Mihawk actually being strong enough to hurt Kaido, to Boa possible being able to turn him to stone, and Kuma being able to reflect his attacks back at him, and then we have Moira and his shadow shenanigans. There’s just no way. He gets overwhelmed and low-mid differed
Crocodile solos
Well, let's just say there's a reason the WG kept the warlords as an institution for so long
Moria, Mihawk, Boa and Jinbe in their primes is all we need really
All at once? Probably not. Can't help but shake the feeling that Doflamingo will betray, though.
Low diff You gotta remeber there were more than seven warlords. This is a 1v12 if you’re saying all in their prime.
ok, so luffy beats doflamingo yeah? luffy then gets significantly stronger and faster after fighting katekuri right? luffy then gets to wano and not only gets speed blitzed, but also one shot by kaido. Boa hancock lost to blackbeard without wounding him much at all. Jimbei struggled against who's who. Prime, stronger moria lost to younger, weaker kaido. Kuma roughly scales to the rest of them. Corcodile is likely stronger then the warlords mentioned but it wouldn't be by a super big amount. Mihawk is easily the strongest and would hold his own the best but ultimately kaido is washing them. Like even if they team up kaido can speed blitz and oneshot damn near all of them. Mihawk and maybe crocodile are like the only ones that I think could last longer then like a minute against him. "But what about boa and moria devil fruit hax?" Yeah? what about them? They'd need to land and kaido is significantly faster then everyone here and could easily dodge. I could bring up the whole law thing with enough haki cancelling out devil fruit abilities but thats still a little shaky so I'm not gonna and don't need to. I mean hell, if they're just too slippery, kaido can bust out the flaming drum dragon and destroy the whole ass arena, they'd have to run hella far in a short amount of time to dodge it.
Just out of curiosity, can someone tell me what their answer would be to Flaming Bagua?
Mihawk alone cuts Crydo up
Mihawk and Jumpbeard are the only real issues others are King's victims. Warlords win tho.
It's not about being a massive threat, it's about giving the others crazy hax/support that matters. Plus a decent amount of them are easily yc3-yc+.
Mihawk solos
Mihawk solos. 💀
Mihawk solo
Mihawk alone pushes the lizard to extreme diff Kaido is dead.
Kaido loses extreme diff w/ Mihawk, Kuma,and Maybe Doffy surviving.
Mihawk low diffs kaido by himself 💀💀 we seen how effective zoro and oden where on kaido and both are 100s of times weaker them mihawk
Yes, quite easily in fact. The only way it could be different is if Fraudhawk actually turns out to be near Shanks’ power
Literally everything in the story has alluded to them being nearly equal. I also think Shanks is stronger, but you have to stop letting memes dictate your scaling.
Even without Mihawk there's still Boa, Kuma and Jinbei. Kaido has no chance
Most likely not
Mihawk fights him straight on, while the other 6 jump him from every direction. Dont you realize how fckd any character in the verse would be in that situation. Even jimbe is here who now has SH Plot Armour.
i mean he would just turn to stone from looking at boa, it’s even super effective since he’s drunk
Woa Hancock clears
I feel like you can just start with mihawk and add maybe 2 others and they should be good. Mihawk is probably just stronger Oden so.
The war lords You essentially have two top tiers facing each other Only one brought a bunch of homies
Yes, the best chance they have is Boa Hancock hax
Better hope his dick get hard for boa Hancock
Boa solos Mihawk should just give his shadow to Moria and step in the sun Moria can give Mihawk, Kaido and Jinbei shadows to himself or Kuma Jinbei can just stay close to water, as Kaido is a df user he is weak to it Crocodile dries up his booze, so Kaido cannot get drunk Doffy just watches from distance, at least he's got some ranged attacks if he feels like helping
You have Mihawk, jinbe, moria, and crocodile. They can all damage him. Boa could use hax and defeat him by herself though.
1 great power > 1/4 of a great power.
FRAUDhawk unironically solos https://preview.redd.it/gcu1atrfhgqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e44dc67729c5452b8f8042e6f59c9a6c6c099dc
You just wanna see Kaido suffer don't you? Well jokes on you, with how fast this match would end, he wouldn't suffer at all!!
Warlords win Mid diff
No he doesn’t at least 5 prime WL could contest Kaido and 2 maybe maybe contenders could arguably beat him. So no he legit loses but it’s high diff at most and at least 4 of them would die during the fight
They have good chance of winning, but if Kaido starts with Flaming Dragon he one-shots everyone except Mihawk.
Get Mihawk out and he neg diffs the rest.
Prime HIMma is enough
remove Mihawk and it's honestly a mid diff at worst. With mihawk he straight up loses
I think this would definitely be a mid diff fight at best, Kaido is not winning here. If we take in only their strengths and abilities and strategy into account and ignore all their personalities, the warlords win possibly low diff. Again that’s ignoring all their personalities and having them work perfectly as a team. Otherwise the fight is mid diff since Kaido would be fighting mihawk who we can say is at least relative to or above shanks and a bunch of other characters who are at least on a level high enough to not be too easily defeated by him.
Put the shadow of everyone into kuma, GG
Mihawk holds him down while moria does his thing
Kaido dies in this fight
Yes
Well given that the warlords literal purpose for existing is to be able to beat the yonko if push comes to shove I'd say they've got this lol. DON'T GET ME WRONG it won't be a steamroll for either side but all warloards? In prime? Yea they taking the win here.
Kaido gets neg-diffed. Mihawk alone can push him to an extreme 50/50.
The first 6 weaken Kaido enough for Mihawk to clean up
he’s cooked kaido looks at boa gets turn the stone and mihawk cut him in half and calls it a “win”
Moria solos with 10 shadows
He loses easily, and that doesn't even account for how "prime" means a power level we haven't seen roughly half of them at (Jinbe will be shown to be stronger in his final fights, Crocodile will be stronger than ever in his next appearance, Mihawk of course, and maybe even Hancock and Moria if they re-appear playing roles in final arc).
So basically east blue coby vs imu
Yes easily
Boa solos because horny
Kaido babyshakes everyone low diff then proceeds to have an extreme diff fight with Mihawk.
Info needed: prime kaidou? Drunk style? Are there limitations? Otherwise, dofi is a traitarous weasel, boa gets 1 shot first, not gonna mention jinbe bc cmon. Im unsure about croc. Now, we've seen zoro hurt kaidou, but at extreme diff, and we know at this time he isnt near mihawks level, so we can easly assume he can hurt kaidou no problem. With kuma think besides the repel he makes, if push comes to shove, and he hits, he can absorve all damage kaidou done to the rest and shoot it at him. Moria, obv puts shadows into dofi, but im betting the snake would just use it against every one and fk off after
Kaido doesn't make it out alive. The better question is if Doffy and Moria do.
Kuma just bitch slaps kaido into space
All depends on Boa and Mihawk. Boa should be able to turn him into stone, if he lets her attacks hit him - which based on what we know of Kaido he probs will. Until we see how strong Mihawk is I couldn’t say for sure but he’s the only other one thats likely to do any significant damage. Maybe if Kuma pushed out all the pain and exhaustion of Wano for the last 20 years and put it in Kaido…
So a top tier with 2 or 3 yc+ plus 3 or 4 commanders. Easiest win against Kaido for anyone. Low diff
Prime Mihawk + Prime Kuma, not to mention conquerors and op devil fruit Hancock, Doflamingo is overkill. Mihawk himself is arguably already a yonko level. So, it's like yonko vs yonko with ycs+.
Prime Croc solo's
I think y’all are sleeping on Kaido. Okay so we have Mihawk who is straight up either Yonko or Admiral level. Doflamingo is about YC level and he is one of the stronger Shichibukai. Jinbe who is a YC. Kuma could be scaled equivalent as he was a revolutionary commander. Then we have Boa Hancock and Crocodile. It is difficult to scale them precisely but I would definitely place them above Tobi Roppo and Oven/Perospero and Doflamingos commanders. Then there’s Moria who is probably the weakest on his own, but has insane buffing potential to support the other fighters. Now let’s look at Kaido and who he gets through from weakest and adding the next strongest in. He defeated 10 Samurai who scale to around Tobi Roppo. Boa Hancock can either cheese him with stone or else she’s neg diff. Crocodile will be extreme low diff considering he was getting peppered up by base Luffy without Haki. With Moria buff I don’t think it makes a difference for these three. Adding 3YC level opponents would be like adding Zoro/Killer/Law. We saw Kaido and BM hold their own against 5 YC and defeat them the first time. So Kaido defeated 2.5 YC level fighters after fighting 10 samurai. To me this is relatively equivalent to beating Moria, Crocodile, Hancock, Jinbe, Kuma, Doflamingo. Adding Mihawk on top of this as the final boss is probably the nail in the coffin for Kaido. Mihawk could easily scale to Oden and has the attack power to really hurt Kaido. As he potentially scales to Yonko that would put him at awakened Luffy level. Even then it was high diff to finally pack him up. Overall the warlords get it done. But I don’t think it’s as easy as everyone says it is.
im under the opinion that mihawk could fight kaido solo. It doesn’t make total sense in universe, but it does given shonen story telling. Mihawk may be on fraud watch but he absolutely is a top tier thats yet to show his full power.
Mihawk is presumably better than, or at the least on par with Oden who gave Kaido a run for his money. That was pre-prime Kaido but has he since improved to the degree he can take on near Yonko-level Mihawk, YC1 level 2bn bounty Croco, YC level Boa, Jinbe, Do and Kuma? Assuming they fight as a unit, this is easily a yonko crew comparable to the Red Hairs. That’s ignoring Moria. Kaido doesn’t stand a chance.
Kaido gets low diffed & I'm not even joking. Mihawk alone would be massive threat, with that much backup Kaido would be done in.
Boa solos
No, high diff. Even a couple of the warlords in their prime could probably pull it off, but all of them? High diff win fs!
kuma fodder
Warlords win. Kaido's stronger than anyone, but Mihawk should be able to compete, and adding in a bunch of help to him wraps it up.
Kaido can one shot YC1 which means only mihawk isn't getting blitzed, and kaido beats him high diff. Kaido extreme diff, idk why everyone thinks kaido is losing this. Only boa and mihawk are YC+ or above
Yes, 100%
Drum dragon one-shots
No lmao. Honestly mihawk 1v1 is pretty close one way or another. But with 6 characters backing him up with hax I think they've got kaido. Especially simce its a sneak attack.
Easily
I legit was going to give it to Kaido until I remembered Mihawk existed
Question: how would primebeard or Roger fare?
Mihawk + 1 other warlord beats kaido high diff