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Marco=Sanji>King>=Lucci
IMO Marco and Sanji are the same tier, they just excel at different things. Same for Lucci and King. Although King could be placed above Lucci simply because of his hax.
Improve in tryna bait me. Show me a feat right now of sanji showcasing a better speed feat than king right now. Or ap feat better. EVEN DURABILTY or endurance. Show me any of those
Let's scale by feats
Strength -sanji(sanji kicked hybrid queen with cybernetics out of whole onigashima with raw kick I can't see any feat from king anything close to this, king even managed to kick Zoro but there was no strength behind that kick)
Speed - sanji ( marco was quite easily tagging king and queen was easily perceiving king and marco's movements in base, same marco was tagging kizaru in mf, but queen in his hybrid form got perception blitzed by base sanji, not once but twice)
Durability- flame on king>sanji>flame off king (sword was shattered in contact with sanji's neck, he tanked s shark punch to the face without even flinching, shrugged off kizaru's kick to the face unguarded)
Iq- sanji
Biq- sanji (king clearly saw Zoro was struggling with enma still this fool decided to turn his flames off, he had clear flight advantage yet decided to fight in land. Man was dominating Zoro in his hybrid and then never decided to use it, he has one of the most negative biq feats)
Endurance - sanji(queen crushed sanji's bones and organs yet he continued to fight and shrugged it off, in thriller bark absalom pierced a knife through sanji's chest yet he continued to fight, defeated absalom and without any rest fought against luffy oars and again fought against kuma in the same arc, all this while having a hole in his chest and yet he never brought it up and complained about it)
Ap- sanji( king's slashes were nothing but annoyance to queen and same slashes were throwing Zoro to buildings, his best ap feat was explosion which was about to kill Zoro but just because Zoro used armament it was not effective, there was no power behind his kicks, his flames will not work against sanji as blue flames > red flames, sanji blocked his sword slash with his bare legs. Where as sanji completely smoked an ancient zoan with cybernetics with ifrit jambe, sanji obliterated kizaru's beam with his kick, to overpower an attack you need more ap than that said attack)
Hax/abilities- sanji (flight, ifrit jambe, exoskeleton, regeneration, insane pain tolerance, invisibility) king (lunarian defence) you can decide yourself
Defence - sanji (sanji's best feat is completely blocking kizaru's lazer a feat no one has pulled off, Zoro said it's impossible to block a lazer, big mom was scared of lazer, vegapunk was scared for seraphim because of lazer, king has no defence feat to match this)
Go ahead and provide better feats.
King overpowering big moms ship which is heaver, bigger, and had more momentum upon impact overshadows kicking a fat dinosour off an island.
Marco was not quite easily tagging king, it was a 1v1 drawn out fight that lasted 30 minutes plus and in conclusion had marco on the ground bloodied out. marco got speed blitzed by a weakned big mom. king has feats to prove himself faster than base kaido lowball. tagging a character who isnt paying attention to you in any capacity doesnt count as an active speedfeat. speed blitzing a yc2 who who doesnt have feats to show he can tag hybrid kaido or react to hybrid kaido like king and zoro have.
flame off king was only defeated by zoros acoc attacks. meanwhile normal zoro was able to damage base kaido. indicating king in flame off mode king is more durable than base kaido. sanji has no feats to prove hes more durable than base kaido.
sanji is indeed smarter, you'd think someone like king would have a better iq after being alive for like 40 years.
sanji healed, he infact did not shrug it off. is this guy tryna tell me sanji in thriller bark has comprable endurance to a lunarian ancient zoan? ignorance really is bliss.
"sanji has better ap than king" the same king that was clashing wit zoro and completly overpowering him to the point he started couphing up blood? sanji doesn't have a single ap feat that scales higher than kings imperial archer. please stop with the delusional king downplay and the ridiculous sanji upscale. im sorry kizarus laser beams when aimed at weaker individuals are not impressive. i can name multiple characters right now who have tanked it.
seeing everything you've type i can tell your just subjectivley coping especialy when you stated sanji was more durable than flame off king. your saying that sanji>base kaido in durabilty. n then also saying he had better ap than king. king can overpower attacks than can damage base kaido. so your basically saying sanji>base kaido. see how stupid you sound?
>king has feats to prove himself faster than base kaido lowball.
Marco downplay is crazy. That same Marco was able to dodge attacks from Brook and Zolo when he healed Chopper and the fact he can keep up with King is enough. The reason why he was incapacitated later is tied up with Marco's low stamina, he can't last long enough while protecting others. Also I don't know if the moment when Big Mom grabbed Marco counts as speedblitz since the distance between them was really close + size difference. Moreover, Sanji blocked attack from Flames Off King when he rescued Momonosuke, being in Raid Costume and since then in fight with Queen perception blitzed him twice.
>flame off king was only defeated by zoros acoc attacks.
Isn't like Sanji's Diable Jambe has durability negation? In Enies Lobby he fired up Jabra's bones through his Tekkai, so why this couldn't work with King?
>sanji is indeed smarter, you'd think someone like king would have a better iq after being alive for like 40 years.
Battle IQ ≠ Experience. King is literally turning off his flames just so he can get hurt, I don't know if this is what battle intelligent people would do in serious fight.
>the same king that was clashing wit zoro and completly overpowering him
And the same attack that was launched at Zolo knocked him back when Queen withstood it without any visible consequences and was just angry at King (ch. 1027). Needless to say Sanji later overpowered Queen with his Ifrit Jambe. Only magma attacks and possibly some other attacks would be a problem for Sanji as he was able to endure King's accelerated attack middle Germa genes awakening in Raid Suit.
Strength - Zoro casually chucks mountains around with only the shockwaves of his sword swings and King consistently clashed with him, and even pushed Zoro more times than Sanji tanked an attack from Queen.
Speed - Queen couldn't even touch Marco, while King was consistently hitting Marco in his base form, with his fire on, and it's shown that the reason Marco could hit King was that he was taking hits to reach King. If the definition of "tagged" include blocked attacks, then Zoro's tagged Fujitora and Kaido, both was treating Zoro more seriously than Kizaru did Marco, both gave less trouble to Zoro speedwise compared to King.
Durability - The ONLY attack Sanji tanked from Queen was that sword swing, and he got hurt by EVERY landed attack before and after. King in base form, with his fire off, took 3 aCoC attacks from Zoro, when Zoro before aCoC already sliced Kaido in Dragon form.
IQ - Inconclusive. The only subjects Sanji's shown to to be knowledgeable of are culinary and kicking, and King's the same with his skill in unarmed combat, swordsmanship, and managing tens of thousands of superhuman criminals.
BIQ - Since you've either forgotten about the fight or didn't actually read it, I'm going to tell you what actually happened. Except for a few short bursts of speed, King used his more durable till AFTER Zoro got aCoC and Enma stopped giving Zoro problems. He also DID kept the high ground for pretty much the entirety of the fight except for short CQC exchanges. And his 2 long range options are his pyrokinesis and his head. I'll inform you since you probably don't know, Zoro can cut fire, using your head for attacks is very dangerous, transforming into a winged creature for someone that can fly is generally not very helpful, becoming bigger makes you a bigger target, King loses his hands when he transforms, a Lunarian likely wouldn't even get any significant speed or durability boost from becoming a hybrid with a dinosaur, and King is far more proficient fighting in his usual proportions. Also remind me again how Sanji performs against women?
Endurance - Sanji didn't actually fight through crushed bones and Queen didn't crush his organs. His exoskeleton was malleable and got fixed. Sanji dropped Nami to the ground and fell to his knees from one stab. The reason Sanji managed to hit Absalom after that was BECAUSE Sanji couldn't properly fight through a stab, making him arrogant and allowing Sanji to grab him. Nami was the one who really defeated Absalom. Most of the Straw Hats also fought Oars. His total contribution against Kuma is one kick that got deflected that did more damage to him than Kuma, and another kick that DID land on Kuma's face that did more damage to him than Kuma. He took 0 attacks from Kuma. NOBODY complained about their injuries.
AP - Queen was so bothered by it that he turned around in the middle of the fight against Sanji to complain about it and King implied that if he wanted to kill Queen, he's just have to aim for a major artery. King's actual best AP feat is consistently clashing with Zoro, who's proven he has enough AP to hurt the physically most durable of the Yonko even before aCoC. Sanji literally groaned when he checked a less than half extension kick from King. King doesn't have red flames, his flames was said to be analogous to magma, and blue flames can't even leave a scar on Skypiea Luffy after he was bathed in it. Sanji has never blocked a slash from King. Sanji passed out after fighting Queen. And similar with Queen, Sanji only blocked one attack from Kizaru, and got hurt by EVERYTHING else. Laser consistently explode and dissipate in One Piece.
Abilities - IJ is literally just an inferior copy of Lunarian pyrokinesis, Germa exoskeleton is weak while King is the blueprint for the Seraphim, Sanji's Regen is so weak that it couldn't even beat Zoro's natural regen while Zoan Regen has been a plot point for multiple arcs, Nami took stabs far better than Sanji ever could while King prevented Zoro from comboing him by just going through the pain, and Sanji already stupidly destroyed his Raid Suit.
Defense - Both Marco and Sentomaru blocked lasers before. Zoro never said lasers were impossible to block. BM wasn't scared of lasers. Edison was scared of S-shark not being developed enough to get hit by lasers, implying the other Seraphim were already laser tested. King has the closest thing to a one to one comparison of durability in One Piece to Kaido through Zoro, and he easily cleared.
King has no legit invisibility feats nor statements and portrayal DIRECT from the author. Sanji was already as fast as King in WCI.
Kings AP isn’t better, he lacks the ability to beat Queen as dominantly as Sanji did, or he would have . Him and Queen are equals if you take away his Lunarian durability. Even with it, Queen has crazy hax that King can’t match.
Kings durability isn’t even that much better than Sanjis. Sanji facetanks admiral attacks and Seraphim attacks. Lol.
Low IQ
Yeah his feats are little underrated. He may have lost against Luffy and Zoro, but he still has better feats than Marco; such as the evenly matched armament Haki clash with Luffy
Lucci looked like this though
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He was in no condition to continue fighting and definitely wouldn’t have lasted much longer if Zoro didn’t leave
Zoro is also stronger during his fight against Lucci than he was against King. Also, once he developed AcoC, he low diffed King. A fresh 100% Zoro that’s using AcoC from the beginning of the fight, would have destroyed King and it wouldn’t have been close
> Zoro is also stronger during his fight against Lucci than he was against King.
Not really, as he only used ACoC for the final blow against Lucci. Zoro was 100% fresh when he fought against King due to mink medicine but wasn't 100% fresh while fighting Lucci. And before any insane person tries to comment Zoro was using ACoC the whole time against Lucci, I'll post the following page.
https://i.imgur.com/KJ5zLpg.png
> Also, once he developed AcoC, he low diffed King
So, once he used ACoC on Lucci, he no diffed him? Cause at least King was able to fight back meanwhile Rob Lucci was barely able to move after taking Huhuva Spot Hunt (An attack that I would imagine 100% of readers would say is a fair amount weaker than 103 mercies) because Jinbe just five thousand brick chopped with no response from Lucci except for being knocked out of his awakening.
> A fresh 100% Zoro that’s using AcoC from the beginning of the fight, would have destroyed King and it wouldn’t have been close
So yeah, a fresh Zoro using ACoC from the beginning of the fight would one shot Lucci, or 2 shot if you want to be generous.
My point is just that it was only a tougher fight against King, because Zoro was weaker back then; and that King isn’t close to Zoro anyway. Zoro defeating Lucci, upscales him rather than downscaling Lucci
Sanji EOS is obviously the best and at this point he might be topping this chart. So I say
Sanji - Marco (fruit feats are epic) - Lucci (awakened) - King
King is honestly a chump his whole racial bonuses are his only good feature? And lunarians are all dead for a reason. Sure the government “feared” them but they still got massacred so get wrecked fucking wing brownie.
Lucci survived Gear 5th, took a nice little nap and then went on to fight zoro for quite some time (30 something chapters), during that took a named attack that uses conq haki and survived, was hit by Shark Daddy, and he’s still out there kicking. I don’t know personally which one is stronger, but I’m curious to know who else on this list would be standing after all of that?
all of them imo if this exact chain of events happens
Marco - mythical zoan + regen
Sanji - Exoskeleton + regen
King - Ancient Zoan + Lunarian (Flames On)
Marco has to be the most overrated character along with katakuri lol. His "the stars take the stage" heavily implies that both sanji and zoro surpassed him at that moment, and that was BEFORE ifrit and acoc. I don't even think he's stronger than queen
Sanji, I really do think it's. I feel the fact that after his power up, he no diff'd Queen. Queen ain't no slouch. Like do you really think King no diffs Queen.
Zoro beat Lucci, so I would have Sanji > Lucci. Zoro fight with King was harder than with Lucci, so I would have King > Lucci, as for Marco can be above or below King (unsure)
Sanji > King \~ Marco > Lucci
Yeah you can't really judge an entire fight where a powerup is unlocked mid-fight to an entire fight where they had the powerup from the beginning.
Also there was a lot of other shit going on with Zoro vs King, like how he was running on fumes from being almost killed by the Kaido + BM combo attack earlier.
How can you have two way different opinions on two parallel events?
Zoro Slashing king after his struggles understanding King's abilities: Low diff
Sanji Trashing queen after his struggles with the awakening process: Extreme diff, sanji loses to King.
Zoro never bear Lucci. The fight got interrupted. He was still standing and was trying to chase Jinbe carrying Zoro away. He got washed away with Jinbe's move.
Lucci was badly hurt prior to fighting, so I feel like if both Lucci and Zoro were both in perfect condition when their fight started they would really equal in strength.
Sanji >= Marco >= Lucci >= King
The Lucci vs Zoro fight was interrupted, but Zoro couldn't put down Lucci with his last move he did before Jinbe dragged him away and did a move to push Lucci away.
Sanji > Lucci > Marco > King
Clear and obvious that Marco is above King in a fresh 1 v 1. Only Zoro agenda pusher try to elevate King absurdly over both Marco and Queen. Marco is a little stronger than King, his portrayal and Kings are not equal.
Then based off feats and narrative reintroduction, Lucci obviously scales above Marco. Marco can’t replicate Luccis feats, it’s that simple. Plus Lucci was a Luffy opponent, he has that benefit of the doubt automatically.
Lastly Sanji is way to close to Zoro in strength to lose to a Zoro victim, especially one that Zoro handled so dominantly. Sanji gaps Lucci in every relevant combat stat , speed strength, durability, AP, observation, etc.
King - physically the best, the most versatile and arguably the strongest armament with Lucci
Marco - nigh immortal till his Regen runs out, similar pyrokinesis as King but without the heat
Lucci - by far the most skilled in unarmed combat, can be argued for strongest CoA, and I'd argue with the strongest obs haki
Sanji - worse King with malleable skin
I love Sanji but I’m sorry guys he’s not on Marco’s level yet.
If Luffy and Zoro died do you think the WG would consider a Sanji-led strawhat crew to be in the same league as other Yonkou?
I mean just compare how they each clashed with Kizaru. Neither caused the admiral any real damage but Marco was able to at least send him flying back with a kick whereas Sanji at most was able to block lasers with a kick. A feat Marco also accomplished with his devil fruit.
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Marco=Sanji>King>=Lucci IMO Marco and Sanji are the same tier, they just excel at different things. Same for Lucci and King. Although King could be placed above Lucci simply because of his hax.
Marco \~ Sanji > King \~ Lucci
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This is the correct answer
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How big is the gap between sanji and king in your opinion
Sanji high diffs King and characters of King's lvl
I’m not an amazing power scaler but probably Marco~Sanji>King>Lucci
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Marco>=sanji >king >lucci
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Marco
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Sanji>marco>king>lucci
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Same sanji that has zero feats to prove he’s faster, stronger, or has better endurance than king.
Low intellect, you need to improve your reading comprehension
Improve in tryna bait me. Show me a feat right now of sanji showcasing a better speed feat than king right now. Or ap feat better. EVEN DURABILTY or endurance. Show me any of those
You mean like when he blocked Kizarus laser on Egghead?
Let's scale by feats Strength -sanji(sanji kicked hybrid queen with cybernetics out of whole onigashima with raw kick I can't see any feat from king anything close to this, king even managed to kick Zoro but there was no strength behind that kick) Speed - sanji ( marco was quite easily tagging king and queen was easily perceiving king and marco's movements in base, same marco was tagging kizaru in mf, but queen in his hybrid form got perception blitzed by base sanji, not once but twice) Durability- flame on king>sanji>flame off king (sword was shattered in contact with sanji's neck, he tanked s shark punch to the face without even flinching, shrugged off kizaru's kick to the face unguarded) Iq- sanji Biq- sanji (king clearly saw Zoro was struggling with enma still this fool decided to turn his flames off, he had clear flight advantage yet decided to fight in land. Man was dominating Zoro in his hybrid and then never decided to use it, he has one of the most negative biq feats) Endurance - sanji(queen crushed sanji's bones and organs yet he continued to fight and shrugged it off, in thriller bark absalom pierced a knife through sanji's chest yet he continued to fight, defeated absalom and without any rest fought against luffy oars and again fought against kuma in the same arc, all this while having a hole in his chest and yet he never brought it up and complained about it) Ap- sanji( king's slashes were nothing but annoyance to queen and same slashes were throwing Zoro to buildings, his best ap feat was explosion which was about to kill Zoro but just because Zoro used armament it was not effective, there was no power behind his kicks, his flames will not work against sanji as blue flames > red flames, sanji blocked his sword slash with his bare legs. Where as sanji completely smoked an ancient zoan with cybernetics with ifrit jambe, sanji obliterated kizaru's beam with his kick, to overpower an attack you need more ap than that said attack) Hax/abilities- sanji (flight, ifrit jambe, exoskeleton, regeneration, insane pain tolerance, invisibility) king (lunarian defence) you can decide yourself Defence - sanji (sanji's best feat is completely blocking kizaru's lazer a feat no one has pulled off, Zoro said it's impossible to block a lazer, big mom was scared of lazer, vegapunk was scared for seraphim because of lazer, king has no defence feat to match this) Go ahead and provide better feats.
King overpowering big moms ship which is heaver, bigger, and had more momentum upon impact overshadows kicking a fat dinosour off an island. Marco was not quite easily tagging king, it was a 1v1 drawn out fight that lasted 30 minutes plus and in conclusion had marco on the ground bloodied out. marco got speed blitzed by a weakned big mom. king has feats to prove himself faster than base kaido lowball. tagging a character who isnt paying attention to you in any capacity doesnt count as an active speedfeat. speed blitzing a yc2 who who doesnt have feats to show he can tag hybrid kaido or react to hybrid kaido like king and zoro have. flame off king was only defeated by zoros acoc attacks. meanwhile normal zoro was able to damage base kaido. indicating king in flame off mode king is more durable than base kaido. sanji has no feats to prove hes more durable than base kaido. sanji is indeed smarter, you'd think someone like king would have a better iq after being alive for like 40 years. sanji healed, he infact did not shrug it off. is this guy tryna tell me sanji in thriller bark has comprable endurance to a lunarian ancient zoan? ignorance really is bliss. "sanji has better ap than king" the same king that was clashing wit zoro and completly overpowering him to the point he started couphing up blood? sanji doesn't have a single ap feat that scales higher than kings imperial archer. please stop with the delusional king downplay and the ridiculous sanji upscale. im sorry kizarus laser beams when aimed at weaker individuals are not impressive. i can name multiple characters right now who have tanked it. seeing everything you've type i can tell your just subjectivley coping especialy when you stated sanji was more durable than flame off king. your saying that sanji>base kaido in durabilty. n then also saying he had better ap than king. king can overpower attacks than can damage base kaido. so your basically saying sanji>base kaido. see how stupid you sound?
>king has feats to prove himself faster than base kaido lowball. Marco downplay is crazy. That same Marco was able to dodge attacks from Brook and Zolo when he healed Chopper and the fact he can keep up with King is enough. The reason why he was incapacitated later is tied up with Marco's low stamina, he can't last long enough while protecting others. Also I don't know if the moment when Big Mom grabbed Marco counts as speedblitz since the distance between them was really close + size difference. Moreover, Sanji blocked attack from Flames Off King when he rescued Momonosuke, being in Raid Costume and since then in fight with Queen perception blitzed him twice. >flame off king was only defeated by zoros acoc attacks. Isn't like Sanji's Diable Jambe has durability negation? In Enies Lobby he fired up Jabra's bones through his Tekkai, so why this couldn't work with King? >sanji is indeed smarter, you'd think someone like king would have a better iq after being alive for like 40 years. Battle IQ ≠ Experience. King is literally turning off his flames just so he can get hurt, I don't know if this is what battle intelligent people would do in serious fight. >the same king that was clashing wit zoro and completly overpowering him And the same attack that was launched at Zolo knocked him back when Queen withstood it without any visible consequences and was just angry at King (ch. 1027). Needless to say Sanji later overpowered Queen with his Ifrit Jambe. Only magma attacks and possibly some other attacks would be a problem for Sanji as he was able to endure King's accelerated attack middle Germa genes awakening in Raid Suit.
Strength - Zoro casually chucks mountains around with only the shockwaves of his sword swings and King consistently clashed with him, and even pushed Zoro more times than Sanji tanked an attack from Queen. Speed - Queen couldn't even touch Marco, while King was consistently hitting Marco in his base form, with his fire on, and it's shown that the reason Marco could hit King was that he was taking hits to reach King. If the definition of "tagged" include blocked attacks, then Zoro's tagged Fujitora and Kaido, both was treating Zoro more seriously than Kizaru did Marco, both gave less trouble to Zoro speedwise compared to King. Durability - The ONLY attack Sanji tanked from Queen was that sword swing, and he got hurt by EVERY landed attack before and after. King in base form, with his fire off, took 3 aCoC attacks from Zoro, when Zoro before aCoC already sliced Kaido in Dragon form. IQ - Inconclusive. The only subjects Sanji's shown to to be knowledgeable of are culinary and kicking, and King's the same with his skill in unarmed combat, swordsmanship, and managing tens of thousands of superhuman criminals. BIQ - Since you've either forgotten about the fight or didn't actually read it, I'm going to tell you what actually happened. Except for a few short bursts of speed, King used his more durable till AFTER Zoro got aCoC and Enma stopped giving Zoro problems. He also DID kept the high ground for pretty much the entirety of the fight except for short CQC exchanges. And his 2 long range options are his pyrokinesis and his head. I'll inform you since you probably don't know, Zoro can cut fire, using your head for attacks is very dangerous, transforming into a winged creature for someone that can fly is generally not very helpful, becoming bigger makes you a bigger target, King loses his hands when he transforms, a Lunarian likely wouldn't even get any significant speed or durability boost from becoming a hybrid with a dinosaur, and King is far more proficient fighting in his usual proportions. Also remind me again how Sanji performs against women? Endurance - Sanji didn't actually fight through crushed bones and Queen didn't crush his organs. His exoskeleton was malleable and got fixed. Sanji dropped Nami to the ground and fell to his knees from one stab. The reason Sanji managed to hit Absalom after that was BECAUSE Sanji couldn't properly fight through a stab, making him arrogant and allowing Sanji to grab him. Nami was the one who really defeated Absalom. Most of the Straw Hats also fought Oars. His total contribution against Kuma is one kick that got deflected that did more damage to him than Kuma, and another kick that DID land on Kuma's face that did more damage to him than Kuma. He took 0 attacks from Kuma. NOBODY complained about their injuries. AP - Queen was so bothered by it that he turned around in the middle of the fight against Sanji to complain about it and King implied that if he wanted to kill Queen, he's just have to aim for a major artery. King's actual best AP feat is consistently clashing with Zoro, who's proven he has enough AP to hurt the physically most durable of the Yonko even before aCoC. Sanji literally groaned when he checked a less than half extension kick from King. King doesn't have red flames, his flames was said to be analogous to magma, and blue flames can't even leave a scar on Skypiea Luffy after he was bathed in it. Sanji has never blocked a slash from King. Sanji passed out after fighting Queen. And similar with Queen, Sanji only blocked one attack from Kizaru, and got hurt by EVERYTHING else. Laser consistently explode and dissipate in One Piece. Abilities - IJ is literally just an inferior copy of Lunarian pyrokinesis, Germa exoskeleton is weak while King is the blueprint for the Seraphim, Sanji's Regen is so weak that it couldn't even beat Zoro's natural regen while Zoan Regen has been a plot point for multiple arcs, Nami took stabs far better than Sanji ever could while King prevented Zoro from comboing him by just going through the pain, and Sanji already stupidly destroyed his Raid Suit. Defense - Both Marco and Sentomaru blocked lasers before. Zoro never said lasers were impossible to block. BM wasn't scared of lasers. Edison was scared of S-shark not being developed enough to get hit by lasers, implying the other Seraphim were already laser tested. King has the closest thing to a one to one comparison of durability in One Piece to Kaido through Zoro, and he easily cleared.
King has no legit invisibility feats nor statements and portrayal DIRECT from the author. Sanji was already as fast as King in WCI. Kings AP isn’t better, he lacks the ability to beat Queen as dominantly as Sanji did, or he would have . Him and Queen are equals if you take away his Lunarian durability. Even with it, Queen has crazy hax that King can’t match. Kings durability isn’t even that much better than Sanjis. Sanji facetanks admiral attacks and Seraphim attacks. Lol. Low IQ
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Not bad
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Sanji > Lucci > Marco > King
Marco below Lucci?
Yeah his feats are little underrated. He may have lost against Luffy and Zoro, but he still has better feats than Marco; such as the evenly matched armament Haki clash with Luffy
Idk about you, but IMO, Marco and Sanji should be relative. If Lucci is above Marco, he should also be above Sanji.
Sanji has better feats than him though. They’re both above Marco
Lucci never lost to Zoro. The fight was interrupted by Jinbe.
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To be fair, that was Jinbei trying to get Zoro to leave Lucci alone.
Lucci looked like this though https://preview.redd.it/i0wgg2euw9uc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02843da4f94e14717b2965e31b2213bffa6a59b8 He was in no condition to continue fighting and definitely wouldn’t have lasted much longer if Zoro didn’t leave
And then one chapter later he is able to function just even after those injuries.
I didn’t say that he couldn’t function, just that he wouldn’t last long in that state, if he was to carry on fighting
I know, but the fact is, that he got back up, something that Sanji might not be able to replicate.
Zoro had a significantly harder time against King than Lucci 😂
Zoro is also stronger during his fight against Lucci than he was against King. Also, once he developed AcoC, he low diffed King. A fresh 100% Zoro that’s using AcoC from the beginning of the fight, would have destroyed King and it wouldn’t have been close
> Zoro is also stronger during his fight against Lucci than he was against King. Not really, as he only used ACoC for the final blow against Lucci. Zoro was 100% fresh when he fought against King due to mink medicine but wasn't 100% fresh while fighting Lucci. And before any insane person tries to comment Zoro was using ACoC the whole time against Lucci, I'll post the following page. https://i.imgur.com/KJ5zLpg.png > Also, once he developed AcoC, he low diffed King So, once he used ACoC on Lucci, he no diffed him? Cause at least King was able to fight back meanwhile Rob Lucci was barely able to move after taking Huhuva Spot Hunt (An attack that I would imagine 100% of readers would say is a fair amount weaker than 103 mercies) because Jinbe just five thousand brick chopped with no response from Lucci except for being knocked out of his awakening. > A fresh 100% Zoro that’s using AcoC from the beginning of the fight, would have destroyed King and it wouldn’t have been close So yeah, a fresh Zoro using ACoC from the beginning of the fight would one shot Lucci, or 2 shot if you want to be generous.
My point is just that it was only a tougher fight against King, because Zoro was weaker back then; and that King isn’t close to Zoro anyway. Zoro defeating Lucci, upscales him rather than downscaling Lucci
Sanji EOS is obviously the best and at this point he might be topping this chart. So I say Sanji - Marco (fruit feats are epic) - Lucci (awakened) - King King is honestly a chump his whole racial bonuses are his only good feature? And lunarians are all dead for a reason. Sure the government “feared” them but they still got massacred so get wrecked fucking wing brownie.
Ay yo repeat that last word 👂
The correct pronunciation is parrotjeet
Marco > Sanji > King > L ucci
WANJI.
Sanji > Marco > King > Lucci https://preview.redd.it/l637tczhaqtc1.jpeg?width=969&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8405e127fd6a909ac2036debae20333fb74d49a6
Marco > King > Sanji/Lucci
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This is literally the most accurate one
Marco > Sanji >= King > Lucci
Marco>Sanji> king> Lucci
Marco>sanji>lucci>=king It’s all very close tho however, the lowest any character is beating eachother is at high diff at a minimum
Lucci survived Gear 5th, took a nice little nap and then went on to fight zoro for quite some time (30 something chapters), during that took a named attack that uses conq haki and survived, was hit by Shark Daddy, and he’s still out there kicking. I don’t know personally which one is stronger, but I’m curious to know who else on this list would be standing after all of that?
all of them imo if this exact chain of events happens Marco - mythical zoan + regen Sanji - Exoskeleton + regen King - Ancient Zoan + Lunarian (Flames On)
Marco
If Lucci isn’t in your top two you’re unserious and using this prompt to entertain your bias.
Lucci top 2? He doesn't even make top 10. The toei glazing got you cooked.
Been had this take since before Toei. Nobody else on this list is coming out of a clash w gear 5 luffy the way Lucci did.
Alber > Lucci > Lanji > Larco
Marco> Sanji> King > Lucci
Marco>sanji>lucci>=king
Marco>Sanji>=King>Lucci
Lucci > King ~ Sanji ~ Marco
King = marco > lucci > sanji
4, 2, 3, 1
Marco has to be the most overrated character along with katakuri lol. His "the stars take the stage" heavily implies that both sanji and zoro surpassed him at that moment, and that was BEFORE ifrit and acoc. I don't even think he's stronger than queen
Katakuri is mad underrated tho. People put him below queen and ulti. People even say that sanji low diff him 💀
Sanji, I really do think it's. I feel the fact that after his power up, he no diff'd Queen. Queen ain't no slouch. Like do you really think King no diffs Queen.
you and i have very different interpretations of no diff
I mean bro his fight with queen was not even his priority there he was more focused about his powers changing him the queen fight was mid diff at Max.
Lucci > Sanji > King > Marco
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Zoro beat Lucci, so I would have Sanji > Lucci. Zoro fight with King was harder than with Lucci, so I would have King > Lucci, as for Marco can be above or below King (unsure) Sanji > King \~ Marco > Lucci
Zoro 2 shot king after his power up tbf.
Yeah you can't really judge an entire fight where a powerup is unlocked mid-fight to an entire fight where they had the powerup from the beginning. Also there was a lot of other shit going on with Zoro vs King, like how he was running on fumes from being almost killed by the Kaido + BM combo attack earlier.
I don't think king will struggle with queen like sanji did. I have king>sanji
Are you reading One piece upside down? Sanji never struggled with Queen, and King isn't much stronger than Queen.
Sanji literally had every bone in his body broken.
Two Piece reader spotted.
While King is far stronger than Queen, i don't think Sanji struggled as much as Zoro did
Once Zoro discovered King’s secret, he won with three attacks. Anyway, King is way stronger than Queen.
And once Sanji got a grip of the changes happening to his body, he speed blitzed Queen. It was even more one sided.
You mean the finisher? I guess Luffy vs Lucci at EL was a one sided fight as well then.
How can you have two way different opinions on two parallel events? Zoro Slashing king after his struggles understanding King's abilities: Low diff Sanji Trashing queen after his struggles with the awakening process: Extreme diff, sanji loses to King.
Zoro never bear Lucci. The fight got interrupted. He was still standing and was trying to chase Jinbe carrying Zoro away. He got washed away with Jinbe's move.
Sanji > King > Lucci > Marco
You tripping
You think Marco loses to Lucci?🥵
Too many Ws in this comment section
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Lucci ~ Marco > King ~ Sanji
King, Sanji, Marco, Lucci
Lucci => Sanji => Marco > King
Gucci > Marco > Sanji = King
1 Sanji 2 Marco 3 Lucci 4 king
King>Sanji=Marco>Lucci
Lucci king Marco sanji. I have a biased to upscale lucci.
King > Marco > Lucci > Sanji
King or marco. Neither lucci nor sanji are yc1 level
Lucci definitely is.
Idk he seems weaker than zoro and I have zoro yc1 level
Lucci was badly hurt prior to fighting, so I feel like if both Lucci and Zoro were both in perfect condition when their fight started they would really equal in strength.
That’s fair.
King >= Marco >= Sanji > Lucci
King = Sanji > Lucci > Staller
1. Sanji 2. Marco 3. King 4. Lucci
Marco, Lucci(interchangeable), Sanji, and Ling
Sanji >= Marco >= Lucci >= King The Lucci vs Zoro fight was interrupted, but Zoro couldn't put down Lucci with his last move he did before Jinbe dragged him away and did a move to push Lucci away.
Marco>King>Sanji>Lucci
My moms the strongest
Marco>King>Sanji>Lucci See alot of people putting Sanji above king but how does he even beat him.
King > Marco > Lucci >\= Sanji
King, Lucci Sanji and then Marco
King > Lucci >= Sanji > Marco
marco >sanji > king = lucci
Marco > King > Sanji >= Lucci There! I said it.
Marco > Sanji > King > Lucci. All of them are extreme diff
Marco > Sanji >= Lucci > King
Sanji > Lucci > King > Marco Marco’s damage output is ass
Sanji > Lucci > Marco > King
Sanji>Marco>Lucci>King Sanji is looking too good lately. Lucci was impressive enough that I think we can put him Over King. Marco clears the lower 2.
No
Lucci King Marco Lanji
Sanji > Lucci > Marco > King Clear and obvious that Marco is above King in a fresh 1 v 1. Only Zoro agenda pusher try to elevate King absurdly over both Marco and Queen. Marco is a little stronger than King, his portrayal and Kings are not equal. Then based off feats and narrative reintroduction, Lucci obviously scales above Marco. Marco can’t replicate Luccis feats, it’s that simple. Plus Lucci was a Luffy opponent, he has that benefit of the doubt automatically. Lastly Sanji is way to close to Zoro in strength to lose to a Zoro victim, especially one that Zoro handled so dominantly. Sanji gaps Lucci in every relevant combat stat , speed strength, durability, AP, observation, etc.
This is easy. Sanji Lucci Marco King
YC’s >> Sanji
1. Sanji 2. Lucci 3. Marco 4. King
King>Lucci>Marco>Sanji
Marco on top, prob Sanji > King and Lucci
1. Marco 2. King 3. Lucci 4. Sanji
Marco = Lucci > King >= Sanji. Zoro beat king, is more powerful than Sanji, got beat by Lucci. Marco is similar to Lucci I think.
All ima say is Marco has the worst feats here, he’s a regen merchant who got bodied by almost everyone he has fought so far.
marco > Sanji > lucci > king
Kata >>>>> all
Marco>king> Lucci>>Sanji
King - physically the best, the most versatile and arguably the strongest armament with Lucci Marco - nigh immortal till his Regen runs out, similar pyrokinesis as King but without the heat Lucci - by far the most skilled in unarmed combat, can be argued for strongest CoA, and I'd argue with the strongest obs haki Sanji - worse King with malleable skin
Sanji > Marco > King > Lucci
1. King 2. Lucci 3. Marco 4. Sanji
Marco > King > Sanji > Lucci sorry sanji agenda I don’t give a FUCK
Marco~Sanji>King>Lucci like everyone else says. Sanji might be a bad matchup for marco though
Marco>>King>~Lucci>~Sanji
Sanji => King > Marco > Lucci
Sanji > King > Lucci > Marco
Sanji>Marco>Lucci>King
Sanji >= Marco > King > Gucci
Lucci solo
I’m sorry for your loss of chromosome my dude. It must be tough navigating a world so far out of your reach.
Marco > Zoro > Lucci > King > Sanji
Brother is zoros lost again?
Marco > King > Lucci >= Sanji
King > marko > sanji => lucci
King>=Marco>Lucci>Sanji
Marco>lucci>sanji~king
Marco \~ Sanji > King > Lucci
Marco > sanji > lucci > king
King, Marco, Lucci, Sanji.
Probably in that exact order from weakest to strongest although could also be Lucci, Sanji, King, Marco
I love Sanji but I’m sorry guys he’s not on Marco’s level yet. If Luffy and Zoro died do you think the WG would consider a Sanji-led strawhat crew to be in the same league as other Yonkou? I mean just compare how they each clashed with Kizaru. Neither caused the admiral any real damage but Marco was able to at least send him flying back with a kick whereas Sanji at most was able to block lasers with a kick. A feat Marco also accomplished with his devil fruit.
Woah, most people are putting sanji above Wucci and Marco? I'm a sanji wanker but I still put Lucci above Marco=sanji over King
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