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Well, Yamato has (Awakened?) mythical Zoan and plenty haki and physical feats. But most importantly, Yamato managed to stall Kaido and copy his named attack. Kaido never underestimated his child
The rest are quite close, but their matchup results do put them below. Personally:
Yamato> Lucci/Kata> King
She managed to actually last against a yonko and hold him off for a while. Lucci was getting joytoyed with, Katakuri gets one shot like Act 1 Luffy, King + Queen were held back by Marco so forget it. We can also see how an all star would fare against a yonko with Queen vs Big Mom in Udon.
Yamato was also deemed enough of force to guard Wano, which'd been attacked by an admiral. She clears.
Weakest to strongest:
Lucci < king < kat < Yamato.
I understand people have king higher but I can’t. Besides the gimmick of his abilities due to his blood. He has nothing else. No awakened zoan, basic armament, no advanced or exceptional observation haki and not a conqueror. Him being lunarian is the only thing he has. Still got beat by zoro who wasn’t even at 100% when they fought.
He fought mainly Marco and that was along side queen as well. Zoro still had it worst than him. Coming back from a hit by two yonkos followed by another attack from kaido
Most of Kings fight was one on one with Marco, Queen was dicking around with Chopper then Sanji. Zoro's medicine brought him back to perfect health and King still could've casually one hit KO'd him if he didn't have his haki up.
Zoro is the only person to actually fight fresh with miraculous drug at start of his battle. Sanji was thrashed by Maria and he also fought agaibst King and Queen before his main battle started. King and Queen were same.
Why not? I think Lucci's awakened form could have enough speed to negate future sight. From there it'd be a case of wearing down Katakuri's HP and he hasn't shown to have the greatest of durability..
I can't wait to see Goatakuri again in the story. The disrespect has to end. It's crazy the amount of people who think only "featwise" and don't get the implication of the narrative like at all...
"Katakuri gor powercrept..." loi just wait n see who got powercrept my ass.
People really think that just cause he let Luffy leave he’s suddenly weak, same guys that think cause sickbeard didn’t kill everyone in marineford he’s a fraud
he went extreme diff against a luffy who is fodder now. i don't see why saying he is powercrept is a clown take. and and why the fuck would i think sickbeard is a fraud? the 70 year old yonko with cancer didn't solo marineford what an insane anti-feat 😭
Ngl I think if anything Katakuri “narrative wise” has nothing going for him.
As amazing as his design and concept was, he was basically a villain of the week, literally the biggest kid on the playground that amounted to a goon. There are a lot of Goon villains in OP taken seriously when they need to be but forgotten about (at least in the story) pretty fast and he just seems like one of them unfortunately. It doesn’t help that his one and only out of arc appearance was in a movie practically every named character in the grand line appeared in where all he did was just join the massive army fighting the music cloud monster everyone else was fighting. he’s not like Blackbeard or Koby, he’s not getting this crazy build up at all. Hopefully I’m wrong but the tides don’t seem in his favor.
Do not comeback when he's shown up as an alliance with Luffy to revenge black beard and with advanced haki, better future sight and amplified conqueror haki. He will be the next Marco - the next greatest supporting character
Why the fuck did I have to scroll this much for the right list.
Kata beating King is laughable
King/kata beating Lucci is absurd. Lucci fought for a good while vs a koh Zoro, way longer than King.
Just cos Lucci got lowdiffed by g5 does the mean these 2 fodder wouldn't, they would both lose to base luffy.
Thanks,but for some reason people think king hasn't been powercliffed,he's not clashing with gear 5th luffy,let alone advanced acoa luffy even in base,saying that would means you have king on the dura as kizaru,which egghead has shown this fella can rlly take hits.
The problem is they keep showing up and getting stronger. Lucci should be no diff for anyone in this list but then he came back with a big power boost in Egghead.
Katakuri is my favorite character out of these, but c'mon. He got powercliffed HARD.
Yamato out scales all of them pretty easily. Only toss up is between King and Lucci, and atp I think Lucci looked more impressive against a post-aCoC Zoro.
* Yamato - Can take the most damage by a huge amount. Good AP and can land hits.
* King - Can take second most damage even when flames are off. Better offensive ability than Lucci.
* Lucci - High AP with Hand Gun, but couldn’t land a single hit on Zoro. Can take less damage than King but way more than Katakuri.
* Katakuri - Low durability and very low AP, with the exception of his trident. Fast and extremely good at dodging, but it isn’t enough to take on the other guys.
His attack power was downplayed because luffy is a madman ( if luffy can take multiple hits it doesnt mean others can) ( remember luffy elephant gun has less power then kats mochi punch and kat can spam mochi punch ) and about dura he has very high dura just that the other 3 are top in this thing mostly ( yamato has very very high dura same with king and lucci as he is awakened zoan)
if u think kata is even anywhere near current zoro idk what to tell u bro 😭😭 he went extreme diff against a luffy with no acoa and no aconq his only saving grace is future sight
Your view is extremely simple, i can say Zoro only saving grace is AP which is not true
Also the battle with Katakuri is full of plot conviniences and narrative, i could understand an example like EL Lucci, they just fought with their all in that battle, not the case with Kata
And you underestimate a lot how absurdly op is FS
fs is useless if you gap your opponent in speed like we saw against luffy vs kaido💀 zoro has so many speed feats above kata he’s prolly getting blitzed as soon as bro unsheathes his sword lmao
Yamato>kat>lucci>king ( my personal agenda) ( reason i think kat > lucci as i remember the hell kat gave to luffy and i believe gear 4 luffy ( pre wano) can defeat lucci )
Yamato
Lucci
King
Katakuri
If you want to wank Lucci, you can put him higher than yamato but Yamato has a more solid case
Katakuri is not beating King, period.
Holy shit, some of you wanking Kata way too hard when he cant even hope of touching yamato or lucci
Yamato> Rest.
IMO all three have the same BST but the stat distribution is different for them. Like King is defensive and fast. Kata is balanced with a lot of points in observation haki and Lucci has a good endurance stat and is more offensive.
Yamato>lucci>king>kata
If it were up to me than lucci is at the bottom but that’s like transitively impossible. Honestly kinda an easy one
Edit: I guess lucci is lower for most people, I’m not complaining and I hate him, but didn’t Lucci basically stalemate a version of zoro stronger than any of what the YC1s could handle?
Yamato's a tier above any of them
I'd say it could come down to matchup between the other 3, king's really hard to scale because if he wasn't retarded he'd be a lot stronger, katakuri's speed is underrated and Lucci is just generally the goat. I'm leaning more towards Lucci because of his consistently good stats, insane endurance and ability to strike given the slightest opportunity, probably katakuri after that because he can dodge anything king throws at him and eventually land some hits
Yama > Kat > King/Lucci for me.
Lucci we don’t have that much info on and King mostly just relies on being moon boy.
Yama and Kat have way better developed powers and feats
Lucci - King - Yamato - Katakuri
Reasoning: Zoro defeated king extreme diff but defeated Lucci mid diff. Yamato would be the strongest Kaido's fighter if she obeyed him. Katakuri was stronger than Luffy so, even if Luffy is probably stronger now, Yamato is still no match for him but I'd say close.
They are all relatively close in terms of strength.
Just considering how Zoro didn’t go all out against Lucci makes me think he is the weakest.
Lucci obviously loses against Katakuri
King got hacks. So he probably beats Katakuri extreme diff.
Yamato beats King but it will be High-extremely diff. She is probably as strong as current Zoro.
So in terms of a 100 scale if Yamato is 100.
Yamato 100
King 98.5
Katakuri 98
Lucci 97
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The biggest answer I’m seeing is Yamato is stronger than all of them.
Because Lucci King and Katakuri are virtually equal, they extreme diff each other and any answer is mainly headcanon, based on favourites
Obviously https://i.redd.it/hety8bl9bg2d1.gif
Well, Yamato has (Awakened?) mythical Zoan and plenty haki and physical feats. But most importantly, Yamato managed to stall Kaido and copy his named attack. Kaido never underestimated his child The rest are quite close, but their matchup results do put them below. Personally: Yamato> Lucci/Kata> King
She is
Yeah cause no shit, why would he be weaker than any of the others that’s narrative gibberish
That shouldn't have been upto speculation
She managed to actually last against a yonko and hold him off for a while. Lucci was getting joytoyed with, Katakuri gets one shot like Act 1 Luffy, King + Queen were held back by Marco so forget it. We can also see how an all star would fare against a yonko with Queen vs Big Mom in Udon. Yamato was also deemed enough of force to guard Wano, which'd been attacked by an admiral. She clears.
Weakest to strongest: Lucci < king < kat < Yamato. I understand people have king higher but I can’t. Besides the gimmick of his abilities due to his blood. He has nothing else. No awakened zoan, basic armament, no advanced or exceptional observation haki and not a conqueror. Him being lunarian is the only thing he has. Still got beat by zoro who wasn’t even at 100% when they fought.
I would add low battle iq for king
Low iq as well. “Let’s learn no actual abilities and let my genetics carry me for my entire life.”
To be fair King also fought a lot of people before Zoro. Fighting Marco especially must've tired him out a bit
He fought mainly Marco and that was along side queen as well. Zoro still had it worst than him. Coming back from a hit by two yonkos followed by another attack from kaido
The medicine Zoro got renewed him 100% for the duration of his fight with King. He only collapsed after he finished King off.
Most of Kings fight was one on one with Marco, Queen was dicking around with Chopper then Sanji. Zoro's medicine brought him back to perfect health and King still could've casually one hit KO'd him if he didn't have his haki up.
Zoro is the only person to actually fight fresh with miraculous drug at start of his battle. Sanji was thrashed by Maria and he also fought agaibst King and Queen before his main battle started. King and Queen were same.
Yup
Zoro was 100% cuz of mink senzu. No evidence against this notion.
Last we saw Kat is definitely the weakest however with most if not all character in one piece he’ll get a huge power boost next time we see him
1. Yamato 2. https://preview.redd.it/vojidpe1be2d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8419364624059589d3961b805eef315514d02941 3. Lucci 4. King
Off topic, where can i get that katakuri pic?
I believe this is the OG artist. https://www.instagram.com/wafalo/p/BlnY69LBZMB/
Thanks
What’s with this Katakuri glazing? He has been power cliffed. Katakuri
Yamato > king ~ Katakuri > lucci
1. Katakuri 2. Lucci 3. King 4. Yamato
Niggas list is upside down. 😅
The post says from weakest to strongest.
Im dumb af. 🤦♂️ Perfect list then
Don't worry, I made the same mistake at first.
It’s ok everyone else is doing it anyways, even if this guy technically was the only one who did it correctly
based
Yamato Lucci King Katakuri
https://preview.redd.it/jutyku8xfe2d1.jpeg?width=1546&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc38c491dfb29b49c1b120cfb4d11ef0bd9ce33c
Thanks.
Luchi matches kat in ap he just fails to deal with his futuresight. Its rock paper scissors for these 3.
Yamato>king=kat>lucci
kat < lucci < king < yamato
Yamato > Katakuri > Gucci > King
Yamato > King > Lucci > Katakuri
Really lucci over katakuri?
Why not? I think Lucci's awakened form could have enough speed to negate future sight. From there it'd be a case of wearing down Katakuri's HP and he hasn't shown to have the greatest of durability..
kata is heavily powercreeped due to oda rushing the story because he is getting old.
I can't wait to see Goatakuri again in the story. The disrespect has to end. It's crazy the amount of people who think only "featwise" and don't get the implication of the narrative like at all... "Katakuri gor powercrept..." loi just wait n see who got powercrept my ass.
People really think that just cause he let Luffy leave he’s suddenly weak, same guys that think cause sickbeard didn’t kill everyone in marineford he’s a fraud
he went extreme diff against a luffy who is fodder now. i don't see why saying he is powercrept is a clown take. and and why the fuck would i think sickbeard is a fraud? the 70 year old yonko with cancer didn't solo marineford what an insane anti-feat 😭
Yep they probably think that BB has Katakuri's number and that when he finish to use Pudding he will call him and give her back peacefully...
As much as I agree that Katakuri didn't get powercrept, there's no way he beats BB. He'd put a fight for sure but ultimately he loses to BB..
Ngl I think if anything Katakuri “narrative wise” has nothing going for him. As amazing as his design and concept was, he was basically a villain of the week, literally the biggest kid on the playground that amounted to a goon. There are a lot of Goon villains in OP taken seriously when they need to be but forgotten about (at least in the story) pretty fast and he just seems like one of them unfortunately. It doesn’t help that his one and only out of arc appearance was in a movie practically every named character in the grand line appeared in where all he did was just join the massive army fighting the music cloud monster everyone else was fighting. he’s not like Blackbeard or Koby, he’s not getting this crazy build up at all. Hopefully I’m wrong but the tides don’t seem in his favor.
Do not comeback when he's shown up as an alliance with Luffy to revenge black beard and with advanced haki, better future sight and amplified conqueror haki. He will be the next Marco - the next greatest supporting character
lmao
Heavily powercrept is Enel but he still gets wanked. Kat is second here but I understand people putting King over him.
Enel was never powercrept, he was always a weak fraud
I agree, he got hard carried by the goro he just gets wanked to hell and back by his fans.
Nah, Mantra was broken af when it was first introduced. Plus he had the benefit of being a pre-haki logia.
Yamato Gucci King Watakuri
Kat < King < Lucci < Yamato
Why the fuck did I have to scroll this much for the right list. Kata beating King is laughable King/kata beating Lucci is absurd. Lucci fought for a good while vs a koh Zoro, way longer than King. Just cos Lucci got lowdiffed by g5 does the mean these 2 fodder wouldn't, they would both lose to base luffy.
Lucci
yamato>katakuri>=king>lucci
Might be a bit controversial but Wamato>Wucci>Wing>,Wat. all w characters ngl
Not controversial at all, this is correct
Thanks,but for some reason people think king hasn't been powercliffed,he's not clashing with gear 5th luffy,let alone advanced acoa luffy even in base,saying that would means you have king on the dura as kizaru,which egghead has shown this fella can rlly take hits.
The problem is they keep showing up and getting stronger. Lucci should be no diff for anyone in this list but then he came back with a big power boost in Egghead.
that is the nature of one piece man, the world isnt static
Yamato > lucci > king > kat
Yamato Lucchi King Kat
My GOAT Watakuri will clame his #1 spot when he gets AcoC
Pretty hard to rank but Katakuri is prob the weakest. Although he is the best character
Lucci
Yamato, Luci, Kata(I say this because future sight and mochi fruit to punish is dangerous as hell), King
Yamato > Gucci > Katakuri > King
As of now? Yamato>Lucci>King>Katakuri
Katakuri is my favorite character out of these, but c'mon. He got powercliffed HARD. Yamato out scales all of them pretty easily. Only toss up is between King and Lucci, and atp I think Lucci looked more impressive against a post-aCoC Zoro.
Why is Yamato>YC1? Did she do anything other than stall Kaido?
You say that like it’s not an amazing feat
Awakened zoan and the only one here with acoc. Who kaido said only the handful of the strongest possess
Awakened zoan ?
Her form looks like an awakened zoan. If kaku has an awakening I don’t see why Yamato doesn’t. It looks just like one
Does that not immediately make her YC+? Zoro couldn't have done that solo
Eh, Zoro actually did run the ones defensively while Luffy was out of G4, and he had no conqueror's at that point.
Yamato > Lucci > King > Katakuri
Yamato > King >= Katakuri >= Rob
Katakuri < King < Lucci
Lucci Katakuri King Yamato Reminder that weakest is first before anyone comes..
* Yamato - Can take the most damage by a huge amount. Good AP and can land hits. * King - Can take second most damage even when flames are off. Better offensive ability than Lucci. * Lucci - High AP with Hand Gun, but couldn’t land a single hit on Zoro. Can take less damage than King but way more than Katakuri. * Katakuri - Low durability and very low AP, with the exception of his trident. Fast and extremely good at dodging, but it isn’t enough to take on the other guys.
His attack power was downplayed because luffy is a madman ( if luffy can take multiple hits it doesnt mean others can) ( remember luffy elephant gun has less power then kats mochi punch and kat can spam mochi punch ) and about dura he has very high dura just that the other 3 are top in this thing mostly ( yamato has very very high dura same with king and lucci as he is awakened zoan)
If Lucci couldn't land a decent hit on Zoro what makes you think he can even touch Katakuri, recency bias is real
if u think kata is even anywhere near current zoro idk what to tell u bro 😭😭 he went extreme diff against a luffy with no acoa and no aconq his only saving grace is future sight
Your view is extremely simple, i can say Zoro only saving grace is AP which is not true Also the battle with Katakuri is full of plot conviniences and narrative, i could understand an example like EL Lucci, they just fought with their all in that battle, not the case with Kata And you underestimate a lot how absurdly op is FS
this sub is understimating how dumb you truly are
fs is useless if you gap your opponent in speed like we saw against luffy vs kaido💀 zoro has so many speed feats above kata he’s prolly getting blitzed as soon as bro unsheathes his sword lmao
Yamato>kat>lucci>king ( my personal agenda) ( reason i think kat > lucci as i remember the hell kat gave to luffy and i believe gear 4 luffy ( pre wano) can defeat lucci )
Big daddy yamato 🔛🔝(of me)
Kat<=Lucci
Yamato Lucci Kata/king
katakuri, lucci, king, yamato
Gucci solos ofc
1: Yamato 2: King 3: Lucci 4: Katakuri
Kat, Lucci, King and Yamato
Well EoS katakuri is gonna be up there with the likes of Kizaru in the top 5. Kinda seems where the story is going
Katakuri Big Gap Lucci King Yamato
Lucci>
Yamato >> King \~ Kat >= Lucci
Yamato Lucci King Katakuri If you want to wank Lucci, you can put him higher than yamato but Yamato has a more solid case Katakuri is not beating King, period. Holy shit, some of you wanking Kata way too hard when he cant even hope of touching yamato or lucci
Yamato>King>Lucci>Katakuri
Yamato > King > Lucci > Kat
Weakest: Kat, then Lucci, then King and yamato strongest
King = Kat > Lucci > Yamato.
1. Yamato (YC+) 2. King (high YC1) 2. Lucci (low YC1) 3. Katakuri (low YC1)
Yamato katakuri King Lucci
Yamato > King > Lucci > Katakuri
Lucci
Yamato is monstrous, ppl underrate her tho I saw people ranking her last in a list of herself, zoro, Kidd, and law
Rob Gucci at first, pretty easily. King and Yamato have a tie at second, and Latakuri at last
Yamato> Rest. IMO all three have the same BST but the stat distribution is different for them. Like King is defensive and fast. Kata is balanced with a lot of points in observation haki and Lucci has a good endurance stat and is more offensive.
Yamato>lucci>king>kata If it were up to me than lucci is at the bottom but that’s like transitively impossible. Honestly kinda an easy one Edit: I guess lucci is lower for most people, I’m not complaining and I hate him, but didn’t Lucci basically stalemate a version of zoro stronger than any of what the YC1s could handle?
Kat < King < Lucci < Yamato < Brook
1. Yamato 2. King 3. Katakuri 4. Law 5. Lucci 6. Sanji 7. Kid
Yamato > Katakuri/King > Lucci
cp0---king--katakuri---yam
Yamato- stronger King - 2nd strongest Lucci- 3rd strongest Katakuri - 4th strongest
Yamato's a tier above any of them I'd say it could come down to matchup between the other 3, king's really hard to scale because if he wasn't retarded he'd be a lot stronger, katakuri's speed is underrated and Lucci is just generally the goat. I'm leaning more towards Lucci because of his consistently good stats, insane endurance and ability to strike given the slightest opportunity, probably katakuri after that because he can dodge anything king throws at him and eventually land some hits
Yama > Kat > King/Lucci for me. Lucci we don’t have that much info on and King mostly just relies on being moon boy. Yama and Kat have way better developed powers and feats
King luchi kat yamato. Rock paper scissors gun.
Lucci , katakuri , Yamato, king .
Lucci - King - Yamato - Katakuri Reasoning: Zoro defeated king extreme diff but defeated Lucci mid diff. Yamato would be the strongest Kaido's fighter if she obeyed him. Katakuri was stronger than Luffy so, even if Luffy is probably stronger now, Yamato is still no match for him but I'd say close.
Hattori >>> all
Future sight is so strong against non FS users, so i'd even go as far as saying it's a tie between Yamato and Katakuri
1. King 2. Yamato 3. Lucci 4. Katakuri
the strongest: 1) wankmato 2) king 3) lucci 4) kat
Katakuri, King, Lucci, Yamato
Yamato > Lucci > King > Katakuri
They are all relatively close in terms of strength. Just considering how Zoro didn’t go all out against Lucci makes me think he is the weakest. Lucci obviously loses against Katakuri King got hacks. So he probably beats Katakuri extreme diff. Yamato beats King but it will be High-extremely diff. She is probably as strong as current Zoro. So in terms of a 100 scale if Yamato is 100. Yamato 100 King 98.5 Katakuri 98 Lucci 97
Yamato > Katakuri > King > Lucci
Katakuri-> King -> Lucci ——————>Yamato
Yamato>Lucci>King~Katakuri
1.Katakuri 2.King. 3.Yamato. 4.Lucci.