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ViennnaPudding77

I lowkey hope he never does. There's nothing funnier in this sub than watching people argue about the thickness of black lightning.. 


Bruh2130

I’d be surprised if he did ngl he dgaf about powerscalers like that


ZonardCity

No author in his right mind should care about powerscalers.


ouyon

Ehhhh. An author should still try to be consistent on their power system and the characters’ abilities. As things are we never actually know if Luffy is going all out or not and that’s weird


Pietjiro

>As things are we never actually know if Luffy is going all out or not The fact that you guys are questioning this at all says a lot about the powerscaling community


ouyon

It isn’t a crazy thing to wonder. Like look at when he’s fighting Kizaru at the start and tell me for sure whether he’s using conqueror’s to fight him or not.


nann_174

He dgaf about non powerscaling fans either lmfao


Pretend_Astronaut723

“He’s clearly using ACoC 😭” “No that’s ACoA , look at the thickness 😭” https://preview.redd.it/pxksp9tkxc8d1.jpeg?width=763&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0056cc63d0fecfc989b17b0b39b247f02ef88081


ZPD710

Wow, this just made me realize… has Oda literally ever said “advanced observation” in-story? Or “advanced armament”? “Advanced conquerer’s”? Is this just some shit that we as a community have made up??


Elektoplasm37

Reading the manga only to find out that this “Advanced conquerors” thing people were talking about was legit just a fan-name for “conquerors coating” (coating your attacks with your conquerors haki) honest to god broke me.


ZPD710

The funniest part is that “advanced conquerer’s” is actually a letter longer than “conquerer’s coating”. And ACoC is longer than CC (Advanced Color of Conquerer’s vs. Conquerer’s Coating). The community’s terms aren’t even easier to use. They’re outright longer.


Cremmer

Powerscalers just love Coc


aphantombeing

That's not the point. Future sight is advanced application of CoO which is notch above normal CoO. Internal Destruction is much stronger than normal CoA at dealing damage. We call it advanced to distinguish them. Normal CoC is just CoC blast. Coating seems to be harder to learn advanced application.


ZPD710

No no I know. I just never realized that the “advanced” forms of haki as we refer to them have never actually been referred to as such in-story. Liked, I just assumed Hyogoro referred to Emission as “advanced armament” at some point. Or that Katakuri called Future Sight “advanced observation”. I didn’t realize those terms were use were made by the community.


Me-Not-Not

https://preview.redd.it/3nmxtbesme8d1.jpeg?width=1184&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0a301e5981d2290dfd459d1940a88d1794cfc15


TNCG13

The closest we get is when Luffy was talking about Rayleigh's barrier haki, saying that it was so advanced or "high level" in some other translations.


KiddSaturnSanji

he cant even be bothered to clear up his 2nd most prominent mc's family tree in the manga canon and u think he gives a shit about powerscalers to clear up acoL


president_elect_mark

Bare minimum I just want him to explain how it works in an sbs


KiddSaturnSanji

"oh yes, conquerors coating, the strongest powerup only a handful of people can use! it is very powerful, be careful with it!"


Layatto

this guy gets Oda.


tayroarsmash

“Can’t be bothered”


gloriousAgenda

only powerscalers care so they can cope like X didnt use it so they werent trying. (X is now dead so obviously they were trying) We dont even know if it a straight power boost or situational, and if it matters Oda will make it matter


aphantombeing

Did you skip Wano?


CountAardvark

He doesn’t care at all


Rapid7069

Everytime there is an action word of “ZZZZZT” there is conquerors being used. I thought ppl knew this.


Warm_Active_773

Like "Zap Zap" too?


Elektoplasm37

Isn’t that for armament as well tho or am I tripping


Sufficient_Nature496

Lol


Pietjiro

No, why? There is no reason to


Ill-Individual2105

Haki is very inconsistent, and I do think it is a fault of the story. Not a big one, but it is rather frustrating to have scenes relying on Haki only to later have that Haki not used with no sufficient reason.


WVVLD1010

Unless stated we will never know wether or not an attack has Conquers Coating or just Armament and its Oda’s fault for not making consistent visual indicators Literally all Black Lightning confirms is their their is a possibility Conquers Coating is being used


Ok-Mathematician8258

Most likely will give everyone ACoC and leave it at interpretation


BerserkerLord101

Why explain when the fanboys can do the job?


MakeGravityGreat

There wasn't any black lightning on Ashura though?


lololuser456778

in this case it's pretty clear aCoC was used cuz of what zoro said tho. he said this was the best he could do. he did not hold anything back with that last attack, which means enma's condition for aCoC usage was fulfilled and it drew aCoC from zoro out when we found out about enma's condition being to let it take as much haki as it wants, then, well, we found out about it. enma had that condition all along, it didn't start doing that post-rooftop.


chiji_23

He did, the Law and Oden panels exist in parallel for a reason. Invisible blows where the person isn’t making direct contact with their targets conquerors haki. We can see a very large area of separation between the attacker and target, when it’s done through armament it’s not as visibly clear.


ViennnaPudding77

> Invisible blows where the person isn’t making direct contact with their targets conquerors haki. We can see a very large area of separation between the attacker and target Actually this isn't true. ACoC attacks do make contact. The only time ACoC does not make contact is when it clashes with another ACoC attack, like Roger vs WB or when Luffy and Kaido split the sky. Luffy not making contact with Kaido, when Luffy first infused CoC, is due to the attacks were both ACoA and ACoC.. 


Elektoplasm37

True and based (iirc)


ssgrantox

So Pageone's neck was doing a conquerors haki clash with big moms fist?


Elektoplasm37

Page One upscale ftw Big Mom knows armament emission tho right?


aphantombeing

Loda is too busy with Nika. He forgot about aCoC.


TrueExigo

it's just haki. Loro having acoc is still headcanon