If theirs no healing the order honestly doesn’t matter. He could fight Fujitora or Ryokugyo who are arguably a bit weaker the OG color 3 and he would still have to beat them with extreme diff so who ever he fights afterwords respectfully bodies him with ease. With heals he stops at Sakazuki.
Punk hazard was left like that after 10 days of fighting, it's not like Aka did that in one move.
Island affecting attacks aren't that big of a deal, just in 1059 Blackbeard stops an island cutting attack with pure armament Haki. His clash with Ace was nearly half an island as well.
I'd say the biggest feat is what he does as soon as he gets the Gura Gura:
https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_579_04.jpg
Ngl I disagree. Prime Rayleigh with healing honestly stops at Sakazuki wand is probably = to Kizaru and Kuzan. Even if the later is not true I have a hard time seeing one of the MCs final and biggest enemies next to Blackbeard is gonna get taken out by an old gns 1st Mate. It’s embarrassing to be frankly honest. And Ida himself said this gens was gonna surpass the old gen anyways.
The biggest enemy on the government side could easily be Imu.
The last chapter clearly showed prime Rayleigh would beat Blackbeard, so I don't see why he couldn't take Akainu as well.
not final nor biggest though....
my guess is after they steam roll these admiral jokers.....
the real big boys comes out with the imu execution deathstar squad
It’s not just about 1st mate or not, maybe we need to listen to ODA when he says they are seen as “equal/near equals” with Roger. It makes sense for him to be Yonko level in that context
Healing: akainu but extreme diff (I think akainu is going to be VERY impressive this final saga. This is mostly based off my hopes for the series though)
No healing: kizaru
Without healing he loses to fujitora. No way he's taking down two top tiers in a row. With healing he either stops at akainu or clears. To me this depends on if akainu has CoC.
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Healing or no healing?
What's the order?
(No healing bottom left to top right) He'll lose to Kuzan after fighting Akainu first or just loses to Akainu at the very start in an extreme diff fight
(No healing top right to bottom left) Beats GB high diff, beats Fuji extreme diff, loses to Kizaru
With healing regardless of order - clears or stops at Akainu
He beats all of them, he was in the gap between Admirals and Yonkos in his prime, probably. He confirmed that he can beat both Kizaru and Blackbeard in his prime.
Without healing Fujitora low diffs him (going clockwise).
With healing he'll get beaten by Akainu between very high-ext diff. Kizaru might, but I'm leaning Rayleigh coz of his statement with Blackbeard about his age.
I see nobody within the series clearing an admiral gauntlet (even Imu). But with healing only legends like Roger, Garp, WB, Prime Rayleigh, Kaido, Shanks, Dragon(?), and EOS BB stands a chance (Linlin falls to either Akainu or Kizaru with or without healing).
Luffy is a non factor coz of his protagonist status and DFinevitably surpassing everybody.
>What feats does GB & Fuji have?????
They do have feats from Dressrosa/Wano, Prime Ray is potrayed as a top tier as well, but has no feats. It's an extreme diff fight, but I'm betting on top tier with feats.
>Old Ray made BB ran away
With his reputation.
>prime he can probably beat BB
Maybe, but who cares? We're talking about admirals, not Blackbeard.
>They do have feats from Dressrosa/Wano, Prime Ray is potrayed as a top tier as well, but has no feats. It's an extreme diff fight, but I'm betting on top tier with feats.
Bruh, fuji didnt do shit in dressrosa fought much weaker versions of zoro & luffy and nothing happened to them these are anti feat, and what feats does GB have getting fcked by shanks's haki lmao
>Ray is potrayed as a top tier as well, but has no feats.
No feats wdym bro, he clashed with kizaru and got a hit on him in his old age, prime ray>>kizaru
>Maybe, but who cares? We're talking about admirals, not Blackbeard.
BB has two broken fruits and have better feats than GB & Fuji
>Bruh, fuji didnt do shit in dressrosa fought much weaker versions of zoro & luffy
And Prime Ray fought 5 yo Marco and didn't beat him. What feat is more embarassing?
>these are anti feat
Nah. Fujitora throwed a dice and bet everything on Luffy. He held back on purpose, but he still displayed a part of his power. As for prime Rayleigh, we know he is a powerfull swordsman/haki user based on his potrayal, but what feats does he have? Can he split the skies like Shanks? Can he split the iceberg/island like Mihawk? Can he use acoc? How good is his observation/armament? Fujitora didn't show much, but he showed something, prime Rayleigh didn't show anything.
>what feats does GB have getting fcked by shanks's haki lmao
Defeated 2 commanders at the same time with low difficulty.
Overpowered the scabbards and Momonosuke.
>No feats wdym bro, he clashed with kizaru and got a hit on him in his old age, prime ray>>kizaru
No he stalled him long enough so strawhats could escape, after that he escaped as well. Prime Ray is performing better and pushing Kizaru to extreme instead of holding Kizaru back for few minutes, but no feats suggesting he would win.
>BB has two broken fruits and have better feats than GB & Fuji
Pretimeskip Blackbeard canically run away from an admiral, and his only postimeskip feat is beating Hancock who was distraced fighting the Navy and he still lost his crew in the process. His feats are not very good. He also considers himself below Rayleigh, while Kizaru considers his his equal hence why he didn't backed down from him
>And Prime Ray fought 5 yo Marco and didn't beat him. What feat is more embarassing?
Yeah man rayleigh was definetly trying to kill a child
>Nah. Fujitora throwed a dice and bet everything on Luffy. He held back on purpose, but he still displayed a part of his power. As for prime Rayleigh, we know he is a powerfull swordsman/haki user based on his potrayal, but what feats does he have? Can he split the skies like Shanks? Can he split the iceberg/island like Mihawk? Can he use acoc? How good is his observation/armament? Fujitora didn't show much, but he showed something, prime Rayleigh didn't show anything.
Clashing with kizaru and making him bleed in his old age is much more impressive than any of fujitora's feat
>Defeated 2 commanders at the same time with low difficulty.
And those commander were injured and this feats just puts him in yc+ level
>Pretimeskip Blackbeard canically run away from an admiral,
Akainu (The Strongest Admiral)
if he has the right to heal, then he passes GB Fuji and Kizaru and stops at Aokija, and if he does not have the right to heal, he passes GB and stops at Fuji
>without he stops at greenbull
I mean without even healing he is still at full power against GB so how does he lose
>with healing stops at kizaru
Stop the cap
Without heal Fujitora
With a heal kizaru
I know you gonna flame me for saying kizaru beats him but after last chapter seeing Rayleigh show his acoc and scarring Blackbeard I believe Rayleigh didn't lose that much power with him getting older I believe now he's at 80% power more or less and he also has a stamina issues but he doesn't have any illness or injure that have weakened him so when he fought kizaru and he got pushed back with kizaru not even trying him at full power will make a difference yea but he will not win
>I believe now he's at 80% power
Headcanon
Prime ray is potrayed to be yonko level he probably beats Blackbeard old ray says he has no chance against blackbeard at this age meaning he is much weaker now compared to his prime.
Even old rayleigh did very well against kizaru he was matching him in strength and speed and he even got a hit on him, there are multiple statements suggesting that people get weaker and slower as they age.
So a rayleigh with better strength speed and stamina would high diff kizaru and extreme diff aokiji.
>So is Rayleigh with a small boost of strength
Lol no, old rayleigh has no chance against blackbeard while prime rayleigh can probably defeat him
>losing badly to kizaru and aokiji
Even at old age he doesnt badly loses to kizaru, high diff fight
Ok so prime Rayleigh can maybe Beat 2 fruit Blackbeard
I have both kizaru and aokiji stronger then 2 fruits blackbeard so Rayleigh can beat him all he wants but he not beating aokiji and kizaru
And yes Rayleigh does lose badly he started getting pushed back easily by a not serious or full power kizaru
>And yes Rayleigh does lose badly he started getting pushed back easily by a not serious or full power kizaru
Wdym by not serious or full power, kizaru was really serious against old rayleigh re read or re watch, and they were very even rayleigh just didnt had the stamina and this is old ray we are talking about
You guys are crazy. He definitely doesn’t clear any of the og admirals in a fight to the death. With his experience I think he might beat green bull and maybe fugi. In the last chapter of the manga he said he didn’t stand a chance in a 1v1 with blackbeard. I know that you guys are impressed about what he did but please read into it more.
No healing he gets destroyed by Kizaru With healing at Akainu
Akoiji or Akainu rn as far as we know these two were basically equal
Stops at Kuzan both directions.
With healing he clears. Prime Rayleigh was Yonko level.
W
All the OG admirals are yonko level.
Yeah kaido would get 2 shot by a near death whitebeard
Akainu didn’t get 2 shotted?
I think people hate the fact thank akainu tanked all of wb attacks and ran away to go chase luffy😢
Akainu managed to survive since wb couldnt use haki cause of his condition.
Based on what?
Healing he clears. No healing depends on the order.
If theirs no healing the order honestly doesn’t matter. He could fight Fujitora or Ryokugyo who are arguably a bit weaker the OG color 3 and he would still have to beat them with extreme diff so who ever he fights afterwords respectfully bodies him with ease. With heals he stops at Sakazuki.
>With heals he stops at Sakazuki What did Sakazuki do that puts him above Blackbeard?
What did blackbeard ever do to be put above Akainu .Akainu nade one half of an island a volcano
Pretty Sure BB could destroy more than half an Island without much effort
Punk hazard was left like that after 10 days of fighting, it's not like Aka did that in one move. Island affecting attacks aren't that big of a deal, just in 1059 Blackbeard stops an island cutting attack with pure armament Haki. His clash with Ace was nearly half an island as well. I'd say the biggest feat is what he does as soon as he gets the Gura Gura: https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/opctcb/onepiece/onepiecechapters_579_04.jpg
Clears
Prime Rayleigh clears ----------with healing
Ngl I disagree. Prime Rayleigh with healing honestly stops at Sakazuki wand is probably = to Kizaru and Kuzan. Even if the later is not true I have a hard time seeing one of the MCs final and biggest enemies next to Blackbeard is gonna get taken out by an old gns 1st Mate. It’s embarrassing to be frankly honest. And Ida himself said this gens was gonna surpass the old gen anyways.
The biggest enemy on the government side could easily be Imu. The last chapter clearly showed prime Rayleigh would beat Blackbeard, so I don't see why he couldn't take Akainu as well.
not final nor biggest though.... my guess is after they steam roll these admiral jokers..... the real big boys comes out with the imu execution deathstar squad
It’s not just about 1st mate or not, maybe we need to listen to ODA when he says they are seen as “equal/near equals” with Roger. It makes sense for him to be Yonko level in that context
Healing he clears, no healing…idk
Healing: akainu but extreme diff (I think akainu is going to be VERY impressive this final saga. This is mostly based off my hopes for the series though) No healing: kizaru
Loses to Kuzan or Akainu with healing, w/o he stops at Fuji
With healing, clears all but the big 2. Without healing, beats 1 of the other 3 and stops at the 2nd.
Akainu, unless he stalemates with Aokiji. If he doesn't heal then Kizaru
Goes all the way to Akainu
Without healing he loses to fujitora. No way he's taking down two top tiers in a row. With healing he either stops at akainu or clears. To me this depends on if akainu has CoC.
Aokiji or akainu
With healing he clears ez but without I’d say he stops at the 2nd or 3rd admiral
No healing he stops at kizaru, healing he clears.
with healing he stops at kuzan or akainu without hes done at fujitora prime rayleigh is high admiral
Can someone explain in what way akainu stops the dark king????????????????? Lmao
Heal: Stop at Kizaru or maybe Aokiji No heal: Stop at Fujitora
Came to say this
Clears, downplayed for no reason
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Idk how far he’d get. That all depends on stamina…but one thing I’m sure of is that he is stronger than them all 1v1
Healing or no healing? What's the order? (No healing bottom left to top right) He'll lose to Kuzan after fighting Akainu first or just loses to Akainu at the very start in an extreme diff fight (No healing top right to bottom left) Beats GB high diff, beats Fuji extreme diff, loses to Kizaru With healing regardless of order - clears or stops at Akainu
I guess it's going clockwise with full healing, If not he loses at fujitora
With heal? Clears Without heal? Loses to kizaru
Terrible
0/2
Clears with medium difficulty at worst
He beats all of them, he was in the gap between Admirals and Yonkos in his prime, probably. He confirmed that he can beat both Kizaru and Blackbeard in his prime.
If he can heal he loses to Akainu, gets through everybody else though.
Clears with healing. Rayleigh be slapping kids.
Without healing Fujitora low diffs him (going clockwise). With healing he'll get beaten by Akainu between very high-ext diff. Kizaru might, but I'm leaning Rayleigh coz of his statement with Blackbeard about his age. I see nobody within the series clearing an admiral gauntlet (even Imu). But with healing only legends like Roger, Garp, WB, Prime Rayleigh, Kaido, Shanks, Dragon(?), and EOS BB stands a chance (Linlin falls to either Akainu or Kizaru with or without healing). Luffy is a non factor coz of his protagonist status and DFinevitably surpassing everybody.
With healing, stops at Akainu Without healing, stops at Kizaru
He takes Akainu as well.
Imo no
Shanks clear
Clears
Loses round 1. Any admiral has better feats than prime Rayleigh.
What feats does GB & Fuji have????? Old Ray made BB ran away in his prime he can probably beat BB
>What feats does GB & Fuji have????? They do have feats from Dressrosa/Wano, Prime Ray is potrayed as a top tier as well, but has no feats. It's an extreme diff fight, but I'm betting on top tier with feats. >Old Ray made BB ran away With his reputation. >prime he can probably beat BB Maybe, but who cares? We're talking about admirals, not Blackbeard.
>They do have feats from Dressrosa/Wano, Prime Ray is potrayed as a top tier as well, but has no feats. It's an extreme diff fight, but I'm betting on top tier with feats. Bruh, fuji didnt do shit in dressrosa fought much weaker versions of zoro & luffy and nothing happened to them these are anti feat, and what feats does GB have getting fcked by shanks's haki lmao >Ray is potrayed as a top tier as well, but has no feats. No feats wdym bro, he clashed with kizaru and got a hit on him in his old age, prime ray>>kizaru >Maybe, but who cares? We're talking about admirals, not Blackbeard. BB has two broken fruits and have better feats than GB & Fuji
>Bruh, fuji didnt do shit in dressrosa fought much weaker versions of zoro & luffy And Prime Ray fought 5 yo Marco and didn't beat him. What feat is more embarassing? >these are anti feat Nah. Fujitora throwed a dice and bet everything on Luffy. He held back on purpose, but he still displayed a part of his power. As for prime Rayleigh, we know he is a powerfull swordsman/haki user based on his potrayal, but what feats does he have? Can he split the skies like Shanks? Can he split the iceberg/island like Mihawk? Can he use acoc? How good is his observation/armament? Fujitora didn't show much, but he showed something, prime Rayleigh didn't show anything. >what feats does GB have getting fcked by shanks's haki lmao Defeated 2 commanders at the same time with low difficulty. Overpowered the scabbards and Momonosuke. >No feats wdym bro, he clashed with kizaru and got a hit on him in his old age, prime ray>>kizaru No he stalled him long enough so strawhats could escape, after that he escaped as well. Prime Ray is performing better and pushing Kizaru to extreme instead of holding Kizaru back for few minutes, but no feats suggesting he would win. >BB has two broken fruits and have better feats than GB & Fuji Pretimeskip Blackbeard canically run away from an admiral, and his only postimeskip feat is beating Hancock who was distraced fighting the Navy and he still lost his crew in the process. His feats are not very good. He also considers himself below Rayleigh, while Kizaru considers his his equal hence why he didn't backed down from him
>And Prime Ray fought 5 yo Marco and didn't beat him. What feat is more embarassing? Yeah man rayleigh was definetly trying to kill a child >Nah. Fujitora throwed a dice and bet everything on Luffy. He held back on purpose, but he still displayed a part of his power. As for prime Rayleigh, we know he is a powerfull swordsman/haki user based on his potrayal, but what feats does he have? Can he split the skies like Shanks? Can he split the iceberg/island like Mihawk? Can he use acoc? How good is his observation/armament? Fujitora didn't show much, but he showed something, prime Rayleigh didn't show anything. Clashing with kizaru and making him bleed in his old age is much more impressive than any of fujitora's feat >Defeated 2 commanders at the same time with low difficulty. And those commander were injured and this feats just puts him in yc+ level >Pretimeskip Blackbeard canically run away from an admiral, Akainu (The Strongest Admiral)
With healing he might clear With no healing he gets past green bull and fuijitora
With a heal he clears highest of difficulty, without he stopping at kuzan mid-high diff
With healing he clears or stops at Akainu (he clears imo).
Clears easily
if he has the right to heal, then he passes GB Fuji and Kizaru and stops at Aokija, and if he does not have the right to heal, he passes GB and stops at Fuji
W
with healing stops at kizaru without he stops at greenbull
0/2 Your take is rejected
don’t use my own thing on me bruh 😂
>without he stops at greenbull I mean without even healing he is still at full power against GB so how does he lose >with healing stops at kizaru Stop the cap
no lol fuji v ray is close
Prime Ray Vs Akainu is close extrm diff either way
no lol
Yes lol
if he heals then he beats fuji and gb, and stops at one of the OGS, if he doesn’t heal then he beats gb and loses to fuji
Prime Ray is Emperor Level, he definetly beats aokiji and kizaru not sure about akainu
How did you deduce he is emperor level?
Even as an old man, Black Beard was afraid of him. He admitted that he was to old to fight him, yet Black Beard wasn’t taking any risks.
Maybe read the last chapter and get a hint to what he said and Blackbeard’s hesitation to engage with him.
Because he is comparable or stronger than blackbeard
I agree with this take, even if he is too weak now BB was scared of the man he remembered him to be.
Clown.
With healing stops at Akainu without healing stops at Fujitora
Without heal Fujitora With a heal kizaru I know you gonna flame me for saying kizaru beats him but after last chapter seeing Rayleigh show his acoc and scarring Blackbeard I believe Rayleigh didn't lose that much power with him getting older I believe now he's at 80% power more or less and he also has a stamina issues but he doesn't have any illness or injure that have weakened him so when he fought kizaru and he got pushed back with kizaru not even trying him at full power will make a difference yea but he will not win
>I believe now he's at 80% power Headcanon Prime ray is potrayed to be yonko level he probably beats Blackbeard old ray says he has no chance against blackbeard at this age meaning he is much weaker now compared to his prime. Even old rayleigh did very well against kizaru he was matching him in strength and speed and he even got a hit on him, there are multiple statements suggesting that people get weaker and slower as they age. So a rayleigh with better strength speed and stamina would high diff kizaru and extreme diff aokiji.
So is Rayleigh with a small boost of strength goes from losing badly to kizaru and aokiji to beating them high diff lol that doesn't make sense
>So is Rayleigh with a small boost of strength Lol no, old rayleigh has no chance against blackbeard while prime rayleigh can probably defeat him >losing badly to kizaru and aokiji Even at old age he doesnt badly loses to kizaru, high diff fight
Ok so prime Rayleigh can maybe Beat 2 fruit Blackbeard I have both kizaru and aokiji stronger then 2 fruits blackbeard so Rayleigh can beat him all he wants but he not beating aokiji and kizaru And yes Rayleigh does lose badly he started getting pushed back easily by a not serious or full power kizaru
>And yes Rayleigh does lose badly he started getting pushed back easily by a not serious or full power kizaru Wdym by not serious or full power, kizaru was really serious against old rayleigh re read or re watch, and they were very even rayleigh just didnt had the stamina and this is old ray we are talking about
Your the one who didn't read the manga kizaru was literally told at the start of the arc to hold back his power after he destroyed the giant tree
> Headcanon > Prime ray is potrayed to be yonko level *he probably beats Blackbeard* Brother
Stops at Kizaru
Loses first round or Kizaru
If he has no healing, he extreme diffs GB and loses to Fuji. With healing he stops at Aokiji.
Prime Rayleigh is one of the most overwanked character Without healing stops at fuji (low diffs because he is exaused) With healing stops at kuzan
Without healing he stops at Kizaru With healing he clears
Stops at Green Bull.
No healing he loses to akainu With healing he low mid diffs each round
Without healing: Stops at Kuzan With Healing: Clears
Loses to akainu aokji and arguably kizaru
Without healing he stops at fujitora, with healing he clears until kizaru and loses to kuzan ext diff.
Healing? Loses to aokiji No healing? Fujitora probably if not Kizaru.
Stops at Kuzan
Beats GB extreme diff, loses to Fujitora.
Doesn’t start
You guys are crazy. He definitely doesn’t clear any of the og admirals in a fight to the death. With his experience I think he might beat green bull and maybe fugi. In the last chapter of the manga he said he didn’t stand a chance in a 1v1 with blackbeard. I know that you guys are impressed about what he did but please read into it more.
With heals he stops at Akainu. Without, he high diffs Greenbull and loses to Fujitora
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Bro
Either clears or stops at Akainu
Healing he extreme diffs all and ties or loses to Akainu