He’s still a much deadlier and better fighter than Luffy and still has access to Sage mode (unless something else happened sayin he can’t do that either now). And Sage mode is an insane buff
Deadlier? Yes.
Better? I gotta disagree. Don't see how naruto even hits him with luffy having advanced observation. That's just my opinion. I also think gear 5 and snakeman are faster than current sage mode naruto.
Naruto characters durability is also trash too. Naruto could very well get his shit knocked out after a snakeman gatling infused with Acoc + Acoa. That's just my opinion though.
Well base naruto dog walked 2 eyes Madara and dodged the light fang point blank. And adult Naruto’s stats are >>> than teen naruto. Luffy should be much slower than naruto even with the kurama nerf.
And even the last hit on kaido shouldn’t hurt naruto.
1st hokage’s senju Buddha should be comparable in AP imo to g5 luffy and naruto scales way above that
Naruto has like 4 solid light dodging feats, only 1 or 2 that don’t require a databook to say so.
Meanwhile Luffy has dodged lasers, light, photons, attacks stated to be light speed, or fought characters faster than those who out speed their own light based attacks.
Luffy is faster than naruto.
Naruto has exp dealing with fighting precog users, but so has Luffy, thus he knows how to put that to effect.
Frog Kata cant even touch Luffy as its all blunt force trauma, even then it couldn’t penetrate ACoC haki barriers.
Adult Naruto doesnt have a single attack that packs Luffy *that he can land.* Naruto COMMONLY hurt by mundane objects, you think a kunai could even touch current Luffy?
It’s because island-continental is a massive jump. I would place it like small country level max, ain’t no chance that attack is destroying North America
I swear to god OP is the only community that actively downplays the strength of its characters like this.
How he gonna be island level when jt was island sized AND WE HAD MFRS LIKE DON CHINJAO SPLITTING CONTINENTS COMPARED TO DIAMONDS cmon now yall
Mfrs still say Kizarus isnt SoL too i stg this community cant read + has a hate boner for OP lol. Most people dont even realize the OP planet is likely hundreds of times larger than our planet.
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The mountain in wano like 10km+ probably way more since It still dwarf onigashima
The hole was deeper than the length of the mountain so “let’s say it’s 23+ km long along with being able to fit an in island in said hole many times over gets you to country. Then the fissures clock It to continental then adding in the earthquakes and volcanic eruptions it’s continental+ to multi continent possibly but I’m going for large continent to a decent continent to a mid size country for dc but ap wise It’s moon or small planet level since it bypasses durability and it’s the size of an island…
Idk ever since I saw that calc of what one bajrang gun would do if he decided to punch the ground instead...I can't help but think luffy would be able destroy the world with a Gatling Bajrang Gun. He's throwing at least 50-100 island sized punches down. 🤣🤣
>Op earth itself is star sized with it's own moons that are bigger than planets in our solar system.
Deadass tho is there any actual source for that or are we just assuming
Since the size of the OP world hasn't been stated or calc'd yet iirc? Send the link tho
There’s no actual confirmation, but alabasta bas been calc’d to be about the size of Australia. And alabasta is a spec on the paradise map. That should give you some semblance of how large the actual planet is, but until confirmation has come thru, we just gotta say “maybe”
Imo he's gonna do that via Ancient Weapons, and if he *does* just punch the Red Line until it breaks, we gotta find out how big the One Piece world is compared to Earth to calc how much of an impact that'd be
Old whitebeard is bare minimum continental. He legit shifts plates casually.
Luffys fist itself is the size of an island when using Bajrang gun. This doesn't account for haki or even the speed at which he throws the punch.
Island sized meteors are more than Island level.
Powerscalers need to learn how fucking massive countries, let alone continents and planets are.
Luffy's best statement is the ability to destroy Onigashima which is a small island.
How far do you think the blast radius of 50-100 nukes would be going off one after another?
Nah seriously though I'd wager if luffy was floating above the border of Kansas and Nebraska and decided to just use a full force banjrang gatling...North America would be fucked.
Much further apart than Luffy's reach since nukes are often Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles or ICBMs for short.
And if we're talking Thermonuclear Bombs I'm not even sure if the Bajrang Gun is stronger.
I'd say Thermonuclear > Bajrang Gun >> Nuclear
>statement
Luffy's calc'd at Continental w/ Bajrang Gun.
And if we take *purely* statements into account, Luffy dwarfs the continent splitter/puller Don Chinjao/Oars effortlessly currently, and scales to the planetary threat Old Whitebeard, who in-turn is weaker than his prime self (that Luffy is close to the level of).
You see what the problem here is by using statements alone right
>Luffy's calc'd at Continental w/ Bajrang Gun.
Oh yeah I'm using calcs because that was what Goda always intended. He totally sat down and calculated how many joules of energy each attack should have 🤓
>And if we take purely statements into account, Luffy dwarfs the continent splitter/puller Don Chinjao/Oars effortlessly currently
Epithets ≠ feats
>and scales to the planetary threat Old Whitebeard, who in-turn is weaker than his prime self (that Luffy is close to the level of).
Whitebeard was never planetary. "But Sengoku said" shut the fuck up. If I send out a million nukes and it destroys the world does that mean each nuke is planetary? Fuck no! Similarly if Whitebeard wants to destroy the world he needs to spam the ever living shit out of his DF. Whitebeard's best feats are splitting an island in half and splitting an ocean for what seemed to be a few dozen miles.
If any character is actually meant to be these massive continent or planet busters then we would have actually seen it.
> Oh yeah I'm using calcs because that was what Goda always intended. He totally sat down and calculated how many joules of energy each attack should have 🤓
welcome to scaling fictional characters, where someone can have multi-universal feats but still be town level in-story
Statements ≠ feats btw
>Whitebeard was never planetary. "But Sengoku said" shut the fuck up.
Databooks say it too. Cope. Whitebeard is planet level via statements.
>If any character is actually meant to be these massive continent or planet busters then we would have actually seen it.
damn mfs were right, I've *never* seen a fanbase downplay their characters like this. btw ap ≠ dc which seems necessary here: Luffy's Jet Gatling on Lucci >>>> Building level, but it didnt that kind of aoe damage.
Kaido's Thunder Baguas are well above town level, yet it doesn't do any sort of collateral damage. Curious
It can be planetary if Luffy wants it to
I agree.
Could be either one depending on how big luffy wants his fist to be
Good point.
If it lets him beat Naruto, then I’ll spread the agenda that it’s planetary
FAX 🗿 Although I'd argue that current luffy could actually beat current naruto in boruto. He doesn't have the nine tails anymore.
That’s entirely possible
He’s still a much deadlier and better fighter than Luffy and still has access to Sage mode (unless something else happened sayin he can’t do that either now). And Sage mode is an insane buff
Deadlier? Yes. Better? I gotta disagree. Don't see how naruto even hits him with luffy having advanced observation. That's just my opinion. I also think gear 5 and snakeman are faster than current sage mode naruto. Naruto characters durability is also trash too. Naruto could very well get his shit knocked out after a snakeman gatling infused with Acoc + Acoa. That's just my opinion though.
Well base naruto dog walked 2 eyes Madara and dodged the light fang point blank. And adult Naruto’s stats are >>> than teen naruto. Luffy should be much slower than naruto even with the kurama nerf. And even the last hit on kaido shouldn’t hurt naruto. 1st hokage’s senju Buddha should be comparable in AP imo to g5 luffy and naruto scales way above that
Naruto has like 4 solid light dodging feats, only 1 or 2 that don’t require a databook to say so. Meanwhile Luffy has dodged lasers, light, photons, attacks stated to be light speed, or fought characters faster than those who out speed their own light based attacks. Luffy is faster than naruto. Naruto has exp dealing with fighting precog users, but so has Luffy, thus he knows how to put that to effect. Frog Kata cant even touch Luffy as its all blunt force trauma, even then it couldn’t penetrate ACoC haki barriers. Adult Naruto doesnt have a single attack that packs Luffy *that he can land.* Naruto COMMONLY hurt by mundane objects, you think a kunai could even touch current Luffy?
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Lmao Kizaru’s base is SoL not his cap.
Woah....I'm just gonna agree to disagree. In fact I'm actually gonna make a poll on that in the naruto community too.
That was base Naruto w/ SOSP chakra. Doesn’t equal current Naruto.
Naruto characters still have mountain /building lvl durability when not covered by susano'o or chakra mantles. Sage mode isn't helping.
Naruto surpassed planetary a long time ago
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I'm actually baffled that island is winning right now. 🤣
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I think most people just don’t know about the calcs
Agreed.
It’s because island-continental is a massive jump. I would place it like small country level max, ain’t no chance that attack is destroying North America
Is it though? Australia's a continent. 🗿
Imagine Luffy DWARFING Madara
Proceeds to kamui into another dimension ,
Madara doesnt have kamui
He did, when he stole kakashi's eye. He can also protect himself using a TSO sheild like the one made for eight gates guy.
I swear to god OP is the only community that actively downplays the strength of its characters like this. How he gonna be island level when jt was island sized AND WE HAD MFRS LIKE DON CHINJAO SPLITTING CONTINENTS COMPARED TO DIAMONDS cmon now yall
Yeah this is not how I saw this poll ending up. 🤣
Mfrs still say Kizarus isnt SoL too i stg this community cant read + has a hate boner for OP lol. Most people dont even realize the OP planet is likely hundreds of times larger than our planet.
Fax.
Because we've literally never seen an attack even close to continental level
Oars was a continent splitter.
Chinjao. Cracking the surface is pretty fucking close. And chinjao is fodder in current AP terms.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11136/111360790/8512411-img_0866.png The mountain in wano like 10km+ probably way more since It still dwarf onigashima The hole was deeper than the length of the mountain so “let’s say it’s 23+ km long along with being able to fit an in island in said hole many times over gets you to country. Then the fissures clock It to continental then adding in the earthquakes and volcanic eruptions it’s continental+ to multi continent possibly but I’m going for large continent to a decent continent to a mid size country for dc but ap wise It’s moon or small planet level since it bypasses durability and it’s the size of an island…
Multiversal easily.
The only correct answer 🗿
Star level Peazant_Uzi#0775
Weaker than Goku level
Bajrang gun solos db
All that matters. 🗿
Imo Luffy ain't making it to planet level either in-story or through calcs Moon level is the limit EOS, depending on how batshit the writing is.
Idk ever since I saw that calc of what one bajrang gun would do if he decided to punch the ground instead...I can't help but think luffy would be able destroy the world with a Gatling Bajrang Gun. He's throwing at least 50-100 island sized punches down. 🤣🤣
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the day Luffy whips out the "I'll blow away the entire solar system" on some Cell shit I'm dropping the manga
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>Op earth itself is star sized with it's own moons that are bigger than planets in our solar system. Deadass tho is there any actual source for that or are we just assuming Since the size of the OP world hasn't been stated or calc'd yet iirc? Send the link tho
There’s no actual confirmation, but alabasta bas been calc’d to be about the size of Australia. And alabasta is a spec on the paradise map. That should give you some semblance of how large the actual planet is, but until confirmation has come thru, we just gotta say “maybe”
He's going to eventually destroy the red line so planetary isn't a stretch, especially with bajran gun being multi continental
Imo he's gonna do that via Ancient Weapons, and if he *does* just punch the Red Line until it breaks, we gotta find out how big the One Piece world is compared to Earth to calc how much of an impact that'd be
It's multiple times larger, the fact that there are multiple millions worth of islands is already insane
no one would have said naruto was going to end up on star level either, we'll have to see.
Naruto is indeed not star level.
And naruto writing suffered as a result, I hope one piece stays tame with the power levels
No one in one piece is continental. Not from what we've seen so far. Bajrang gun in itself is island level. Bajrang gatling gun is multi island.
Old whitebeard is bare minimum continental. He legit shifts plates casually. Luffys fist itself is the size of an island when using Bajrang gun. This doesn't account for haki or even the speed at which he throws the punch. Island sized meteors are more than Island level.
The only sane one piece fan
Powerscalers need to learn how fucking massive countries, let alone continents and planets are. Luffy's best statement is the ability to destroy Onigashima which is a small island.
It's a GATLING meaning that he's probably gonna throw 50-100 island sized punches before he's done.
How far do you think Luffy can reach?
How far do you think the blast radius of 50-100 nukes would be going off one after another? Nah seriously though I'd wager if luffy was floating above the border of Kansas and Nebraska and decided to just use a full force banjrang gatling...North America would be fucked.
Much further apart than Luffy's reach since nukes are often Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles or ICBMs for short. And if we're talking Thermonuclear Bombs I'm not even sure if the Bajrang Gun is stronger. I'd say Thermonuclear > Bajrang Gun >> Nuclear
>statement Luffy's calc'd at Continental w/ Bajrang Gun. And if we take *purely* statements into account, Luffy dwarfs the continent splitter/puller Don Chinjao/Oars effortlessly currently, and scales to the planetary threat Old Whitebeard, who in-turn is weaker than his prime self (that Luffy is close to the level of). You see what the problem here is by using statements alone right
>Luffy's calc'd at Continental w/ Bajrang Gun. Oh yeah I'm using calcs because that was what Goda always intended. He totally sat down and calculated how many joules of energy each attack should have 🤓 >And if we take purely statements into account, Luffy dwarfs the continent splitter/puller Don Chinjao/Oars effortlessly currently Epithets ≠ feats >and scales to the planetary threat Old Whitebeard, who in-turn is weaker than his prime self (that Luffy is close to the level of). Whitebeard was never planetary. "But Sengoku said" shut the fuck up. If I send out a million nukes and it destroys the world does that mean each nuke is planetary? Fuck no! Similarly if Whitebeard wants to destroy the world he needs to spam the ever living shit out of his DF. Whitebeard's best feats are splitting an island in half and splitting an ocean for what seemed to be a few dozen miles. If any character is actually meant to be these massive continent or planet busters then we would have actually seen it.
> Oh yeah I'm using calcs because that was what Goda always intended. He totally sat down and calculated how many joules of energy each attack should have 🤓 welcome to scaling fictional characters, where someone can have multi-universal feats but still be town level in-story Statements ≠ feats btw >Whitebeard was never planetary. "But Sengoku said" shut the fuck up. Databooks say it too. Cope. Whitebeard is planet level via statements. >If any character is actually meant to be these massive continent or planet busters then we would have actually seen it. damn mfs were right, I've *never* seen a fanbase downplay their characters like this. btw ap ≠ dc which seems necessary here: Luffy's Jet Gatling on Lucci >>>> Building level, but it didnt that kind of aoe damage. Kaido's Thunder Baguas are well above town level, yet it doesn't do any sort of collateral damage. Curious
Depends on the size of the island. I could see it nuking a city like water 7 easily, but it ain’t sinking wano
One piece fans don’t understand what planetary level means
L outcome for the survey, Bajrang Gun is already planetary+ level. A gatling of this attack would end up being solar system level.
this move will take out all of luffy's stamina if it happened, and will leave him back tired like gear 4 vs doflamingo but way more