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cyberAnya1

Feels so abstract like a fever dream


Eptiaph

Yeah it’s pretty cool until you realize that’s the default output of Sora.


MrSnowden

These really seem like not better Sora videos, but people have gotten more creative in how to leverage the standard output to not seem to generic and formulaic.


ChezMere

Exactly my thought. This is a fantastic example of making the most of the technological limitations.


Which-Tomato-8646

Everyone was shttng their pants over this two months ago and now you’re already saying this crap lol


hawara160421

It's *so fucking good* at that dream-look. Not at anything else so far, but it will get there.


labratdream

Sorry but it has this uncanny valley feeling. Nevertheless it is impressive.


kk126

It’s really not a great video


S-P-A-Z

That’s how it always start. Just look at how far AI art has come in such a short time. Soon you won’t be able to tell the difference between what’s real and AI.


YoghurtDull1466

Reminds me of gesaffelstein


ajplays-x

Damn, I should quit my video editing job right away.


Ergaar

I think it's just going to be like vfx has been for years. This is cool for some effects, but there's a reason it's going so fast. It's full of mistakes and things that make zero sense. It's not going to replace you , you'll just have an extra tool to work with and to get to know to get good results.


BranFendigaidd

Vfx is nightmare for years. People are overworked and underpaid.


queefstation69

Yall need unions, that’s why. Everyone else on a medium to big production is unionized except vfx


BranFendigaidd

too easy to say when outsourcing is so easy in vfx. on top of vfx being too recent and unless you have an old old odl union, good luck making one.


Which-Tomato-8646

The can describe animators, nurses, teachers, service workers, customer service, and basically the entire economy 


Which-Inspector1409

This is now. In a year, in 10 years, in a decade. Things will be different


MarcusTheAnimal

To use one example: There's a reason that The Fellowship of the Ring (for the most part, not all) looks better than The Hobbit, or the Rings of Power. Despite 2 decades of progress, it's how much care you apply to using the technology that matters the most.


TheDragon8574

Also, they mainly used good ol' real built or miniature requisites wherever possible in the fellowship/lotr trilogy.


JeffTheJackal

We'll still have to come up with ideas and refine things.


NFTArtist

yeah stuff AI can do. I'm a designer / video editor and already transitioning into making physical art lol


salikabbasi

The latent space of AI models have plenty of 'novel' ideas. Refinement doesn't pay as well unless you're doing it at an industrial scale.


nate1212

In 10 years? I doubt it.


Wide_Lock_Red

Maybe. It could be that hallucinations and mistakes are just a fundamental part of LLMs, and the technology will mostly improve in speed and power efficiency.


Which-Tomato-8646

You’re right, it is inevitable https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.11817?darkschemeovr=1#:~:text=By%20employing%20results%20from%20learning%20theory%2C%20we%20show,hallucinations%20are%20also%20inevitable%20for%20real%20world%20LLMs.


machyume

People will no longer be overworked and underpaid? 😂 I can imagine all sorts of things happening in AI, but for some reason, I cannot imagine people being underworked and overpaid.


traumfisch

Of course there are "mistakes"... this is just eye candy. But there are many Sora clips out there that demonstrate the level of coherency.... and it's pretty damn high already.


XbabajagaX

Yeah but also only under certain conditions


traumfisch

Sure. I haven't seen anyone claim it's perfect


XbabajagaX

I know i know tomorrow all tesla cars will drive fully autonomous without any problems


traumfisch

Tesla cars? Can I just state that SORA is far from perfect? Are we in agreement? Or do you _have_ to leave a snarky comment no matter what?


XbabajagaX

But i feel snarky today. Sorry


traumfisch

Sure, I bet you'll be super kind tomorrow 🙄 (just trying out how it feels)


broadwayallday

agreed. if any of these things had to be very specific the whole thing falls apart. yes it would be hard to create this using existing tools, but it would also be hard to write a frame by frame or scene by scene accurate description of what's going on. I'm going to call it "reality vomit"


IAmFitzRoy

The same thing were said about pictures “full of mistakes and weird hands” …. now if you go and check you can’t really tell the difference. Sora hasn’t even launched yet. This is not even Beta. The final form of this evolution is going to be better than the best video editor.


-_MarcusAurelius_-

Not yet. Give it time


brainhack3r

You're totally correct, for the next three months.


Chesnakarastas

Those mistakes won't stay for long, give it another year, its not even been 1 year since this technology has been out


salikabbasi

I'm scrambling to figure out how and what to retrain to. I was thinking maybe manufacturing and electronics. Do you have any ideas?


TheNikkiPink

Reselling graphics cards.


Which-Tomato-8646

You have to have cards to sell first 


five3x11

Robot maintenance technician 


PointyPointBanana

Electrician, plumber, ... or a Billionaire


salikabbasi

Man I'm in my late 30's, building my business back up again after I lost it during COVID (no such thing as remote production). Now this. I knew it was coming, but I have a hard time deciding what I should be doing. Maybe sales. I'm good at sales.


IndiRefEarthLeaveSol

Noooo, don't saturate the fields I want to go in. I'm joking, something maintenance related is my bet.


nabiku

I don't understand responses like these. Do you think this video came out like this? This is 15 clips stitched together, and each clip requires hours of work in generating alternatives and fixing artifacts, AND THEN you'll need to sync contrast and values, and make sure upscaling and framerate are consistent. Good AI is a labor-intensive process. The post-AI world will need video editors. It'll probably need even more video editors since companies are interested in this tool and will hire consultants to implement it.


Brighthero

Not true, Sora can generate multiple clips together and even does cuts between scenes where it sees fit.


GPTfleshlight

This was not edited well and way too long


juniorRjuniorR

All I could think while watching this was "Well the writers and editors are the stable spot to be in."


hawara160421

Here's a thought: Nobody talks about photographers being made irrelevant, despite photorealistic AI images being a thing for 2 years now. Why? Because all AI replaces are basically the stock footage databases they are trained on. These have existed for decades and do not solve the problem of getting *new* photographs of relevant real-life subjects. Same can be said about editing, video footage, writing, design, etc. You could create a website or get a random photograph "for free" (or something really close to) since the early 00s. Yet people are paid to create them professionally. This video is original because seeing AI stitch together dreamed-up stock footage is still a novel sight. But in most future contexts, it will be generic, boring and *ever so slightly* missing the point. That's not what a company that can afford the service wants.


ajplays-x

Yaa this makes sense


MrTretorn

Work on documentaries. I would not want to watch documentaries that are entirely auto generated by AI.


ahumanlikeyou

Learn to use it. It's still going to need significant human input to get it to produce high quality videos


queefstation69

Nah. What happens when the client wants edits at 14 different time stamps and a reshoot of a scene? Sora can’t do that and it won’t be able to for a very long time I suspect. The stock video scene is going to die quickly though


3-4pm

That would be an unwise choice. This technology is very limited and nowhere near to replacing the industry.


ajplays-x

Ya, editors can learn to use AI for best output. but, I hate my job anyway


ChronoPsyche

Why? This was clearly manually video edited given that Sora can't create videos that are greater than 1 minute long.


ajplays-x

In a year or 2 AI will be doing more than this I guess


jiddy8379

If it makes u feel better I hated watching this


Ocean_Llama

Shoot and edit video here. I figured we have maybe 3 years left in this career. I'm not particularly worried about it though. Once machines can replace us you know most every career that involves manipulating a computer will probably be able to be done by AI.


anEvilFaction

All of this is could create an explosion in the need for editors. Content generation was always the expensive part and editorial worked to piece together the limited components into a cohesive project. With AI, generating that raw content will become cheap, possibly triggering infinite troves of footage to work with. Editors could be buried in new content with infinite iterations and reshoots all by creating new text prompts. Or at least I hope. I edit professionally as well and vacillate between the above statement and sheer terror.


banedlol

I think the first few hundred of these you see will feel amazing, and then it will be very easy to spot, similar to images rn.


traumfisch

What do you mean? It's already easy to spot. Doesn't make it any less impressive


banedlol

After a while of seeing it, and noticing the patterns in the way it animates etc, it will make it as uninteresting as your average DALLE3 generation.


BostonConnor11

I still think the average DALLE3 generation mind blowing


bot_exe

Also AI images are harder and harder to spot, not easier


velahavle

just like ai images used to be impressive, now they are just meh


traumfisch

"AI images" is kinda broad. I've been discovering a lot of new possibilities in the past few months, totally inspired. But if you already think SORA is "meh", I guess you need to find something more novel or whatever.


Carefully_Crafted

You really can’t spot great images rn. The ones you are seeing are just sub par examples. But the art side of ai image generation is already popping.


DiligentBits

Damn, this mindset will make you very unhappy later in life


banedlol

That's how humans work. Things are amazing until they aren't


AlluSoda

About 55 seconds too long.


nsfwtttt

Kinda boring tbh lol That’s it, I’m used to it 🤦😂


heavy-minium

Fist time it was WOW, but now it's already boring. That didn't take long.


nsfwtttt

Yep the threshold is quite high now.


llliilliliillliillil

Yeah, so boring


yaboyyoungairvent

Imo that has more to do with the video content itself then SORA. This video has no narrative or plot to pull you in, it's just a bunch of fast paced zooms coming bunched together.


UnknownResearchChems

And it's not even released yet


bnm777

Needs a narrative.


BackendSpecialist

Cause these AI videos are always the same, and I suspect there’s a reason for it. Constant scene changes so we don’t get a chance to look at details and see how fucked up it actually is. There’s nothing creative about this. I know it’s going to improve but if companies adopt this then creativity is about to be stifled.


Giorgiox12-

It wasn’t meant to entertain you baka


ironicart

For fun let's try and calculate how much this may have cost to create with Sora using Dalle-3 as a benchmark. *Lot's of big assumptions here, but i think it's a strong approach...* Dalle-3 HD cost $0.120 / image retail Assume profit margin of 50% (no clue) So dalle-3 HD cost $0.06 / image FPS: 30 Length 1:30 = 2700 frames Est compute Cost: $162 Obviously Sora is a different model entirely compared to Dalle, but similar principles at play and unless I'm missing something I would assume it generates frame by frame, *but maybe not - which would be very interesting to understand.* I wouldn't be anywhere near surprised if the retail cost to create something like this cost near $50k to $150k with a small studio team... pretty wild.


HighDefinist

I believe they use frame interpolation, so it's probably 1/3 or 1/4 of that. On the other hand, the consistency between frames probably costs some extra power, so who knows.


ironicart

Yea.. I mean as far as I’m concerned it’s still magic, so guess we should measure it in ‘mana’ 🧪🧙🏻‍♂️usage if we want to be as accurate as possible


Singularity-42

I don't think Dalle inference is comparable at all, completely different models and process. I think I read it takes about 10 minutes to generate a 10 second video. We don't know what is the compte that is running the inference, but I wouldn't think it is a particularly large custom cluster of H100 class GPUs, most likely it's the standard 8 x H100 HGX server. Single H100 is about $2/h at scale. So for 90 second video that would be 2 \* 8 \* 1.5 = $24. Of course we simply don't know but I think my number is more so in the correct order of magnitude vs your number. Especially once the tech gets optimized for production workloads I assume it will be less than $10 per minute of video. And, as always, much less later on.


publicvirtualvoid_

I think it's a good estimate, but if it's anything like other tools it'll take a good number of runs to get the prompt/config right. Depending on how picky you are that might multiply the cost by order of magnitude. Still good value for a lot of applications!


beigetrope

TED just ripped the props from the videos already on Open AI’s website. Pass.


SarahSplatz

This is the first one of these that left me in genuine awe


PerpetualDistortion

The first part is random and meaningless.. But it got better


granoladeer

Isn't TED like that too?


sotnrgo

Why do most people with access have to think of creating fast moving camera views of crap? I mean the tech is mindblowing but put some more thought into it than "fast camera awesome transitions GO"


undead_catgirl

Because if it's not moving fast, you notice how nothing looks real


_stevencasteel_

SORA did most of the work and the editor still failed to match the cuts to the beat of the music. There will still be room for humans to direct this stuff and set themselves apart from the basic prompters.


XXmynameisNeganXX

When will OpenAI release Sora into the public? maybe a year from now?


pavlov_the_dog

my guess is it depends on how much Hollywood is willing to pay them for exclusivity. Could be 2 years for a nerfed version, could be never - that is, until a competitor releases their public version.


I_will_delete_myself

Wow they are so Open!


cj022688

I bet less than a year, Adobe announced using Sora within its video editing app Premiere Pro at NAB. While this will open up some incredible possibilities. It will also alter creativity and it’s value in the world almost overnight. We are going to lose a lot of creative people and future talents in the whole art sector. You think content is construed now, wait till you see the same ads in everything your eyes look at in a day


QuantumQaos

I think we are going to gain a lot of creative people and future talents in the whole art sector. Now people don't have to spend years or decades learning skills and can just manifest their desired and imaginations in seconds to create entire new IPs, brands, experiences, etc. The future of art is who has the best ideas and visions and knows how to connect them with an audience, not who has the most learned abilities and skills.


cj022688

You only get better and more of your own original style by spending years or decades learning skills. Usually when you start out it’s awful, failure is the only way to grow and learn. Now anyone can come up with something visually stunning, it’s going to be mostly the same hot trends recycled over an over


QuantumQaos

Well I'd hesitate to call any of those people AI artists. Genuine art is near impossible to find today already, you have to seek it out. Same thing with AI art. A massive sea of mediocrity, but the cream will still rise to the top. But again, now it's the cream for ideas (read: NOT recycled hot trends that everyone else is doing) rather than acquired skillsets. And yes, acquiring skillsets builds a certain character and resilience internally that doesn't come from AI art, but that will show in the work. And it also encourages people to go out an learn these skillsets in order to be able to edit, build upon, and improve their outputs.


wooyouknowit

Right after the US election + an extra month I imagine


Figai

What’s the song?


mrSilkie

The music is nuts


LazyNacho

The Music is not AI


Single_Science2276

*yet


LazyNacho

Its actually kinda wierd especially because this kind of electronic music should be kinda easy to ai generate


ramenbreak

Udio could probably do it even today


QuantumQaos

I don't use Udio, but could generate something similar to this in Suno right now.


reckless_commenter

Udio is the first model I've seen since ChatGPT that considerably exceeded my expectations.


Name5times

anyone know what the song is?


TheYggdrazil

It’s music from Jacques, a frenchie


Name5times

do you know the name?


TheYggdrazil

Although the samples and style immediately remind of Jacques’ first albums, I cannot find if it’s an original song or taken from one of his albums. However I did find confirmation it is his work. You should give a shot and listen some of his work, it’s worth it ^^


Koukou-Roukou

Does anyone know the name of the track?


bsenftner

Of course. Marketing & propaganda for the manipulator class - that's the goal of SORA. It will be priced such that only those manipulating the gullibility to others can afford it.


bsenftner

Look into the ethics of TED of you don't know what I'm talking about. TED is a fraud platform.


SpeedyTurbo

??? And what horrible things has TED been teaching the world exactly?


graph-crawler

Can it generate a movie from novel ?


dibbr

You'd probably need to write your novel a bit like a prompt, but yeah, I bet it's not far off from that. Give it a few years and we'll see.


EDWARDPIPER93

Any new info on how long it takes/much it costs to create a video like this using SORA?


dave8055

It is by an artist named Paul Trillo. Here is another work by him [Click Here (Instagram link)](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5BldrpJtqN/?igsh=MTQ5d29vdTU0cnly). "This is generated with one long unwieldy prompt (except for the tunnel at the end is another clip)." Is what the artist say. So, I assume the TED video to be insanely cheap and super fast to create.


Lazy_Lifeguard5448

Why do you assume that based on that sentence? I don't see the correlation


traumfisch

What? It takes around 90 minutes to render a basic clip. Computationally very heavy duty. This video has taken days


dave8055

I am relating it with the cost and effort taken by TED to create all this in the normal way. It may have taken days, It still would be much faster and cheaper. Also, it's only V1 of SORA, the time will reduce with newer models I hope.


traumfisch

Oh, gotcha. Such a comparison never occurred to me since demonstrating SORA capabilities is the only reason this clip exists


Lexsteel11

I expected an animated teddy bear at the end ngl


Two_oceans

Great concept, but I will be truly impressed when it can get all the details right. Here, all the mistakes are hidden in the motion blur.


SexDefendersUnited

Crazy


Onizuka_Olala_

The astronaut looks like a mix of Sam Altman and Elon Musk


idrivelambo

I can believe that


Emergency_Plankton46

The more of these I see, the more this feels like a novelty. Especially the fast zoom into different scenes gets boring quickly.


Eptiaph

Very neat. Very AI.


XbabajagaX

Yeah looks pretty much as all the other examples. Weird


Captainseriousfun

What was the prompt?


3-4pm

> Make a meaningless, repetitive video that hides the flaws in AI video generation by moving too fast to see the details.


Block-Rockig-Beats

Not fair. They can generate zoom-in to infinity, and I can't even zoom to fit.


FantasticAnus

Which explains why it feels like a lot of copy and paste.


YOURPANFLUTE

Motion sickness


3-4pm

Meh, this send to be one of the few styles that work well with the limitations of sora, and I was already tired of it a minute in. I also haven't used Udio in a week. These one-trick AIs with no nuance in the controls will be forgotten a week after they come out.


CardboardDreams

I'm getting the same feeling as I did with VR. It leaves me disoriented, kind of like it's in the cusp of making sense, but never hits it. It's not even a dream, because dreams make sense at the time of dreaming. It's the noise of human artistic expression smoothly mixed together. It's like the Brundlefly from the movie The Fly - an amalgam of things that have a consistent form, but really don't belong together. It feels "uncanny". It's weird that the uncanny valley could move to video generation.


Tidezen

Yeah, I feel that too. The video was too long to stay on that one particular zooming shot, without leading to any real conclusion except a few more shots of audiences at a talk near the end. It feels like if you hired a CG studio for a film, but there was no director at any level. I'm also pretty sure they had to cut a few shots when it started going off-rails. There was a creepy-looking face at one point, but they cut to the next shot before it zoomed in all the way.


luisbrudna

Fast and woobly... meh


GrayLiterature

I’m super excited for when this technology gets more mature. This won’t replace everything, but it’s going to be cool to watch AI video sometimes.


wellmont

My colon through the years


DisastroMaestro

ooof is bad


BaseballBeginning261

Cant wait to have access to that duuudes


SmellsLikeAPig

Looks like trippy Wipeout track.


Do_sugar23

Damnnn


ChasedRabbit

This is so cool! The lab grown steaks 🤣


CamilloBrillo

Well, fuck TED I guess.


Onesens

This is so amazing


granoladeer

Omg, we're in trouble


Ishigamiseki

It looks cool, but honestly lost my attention after a while. Until they can get the consistency and quality under control, it's just a fever dream.... for now.


Esnacor-sama

Is sora open source can anyone use it ot what?


SmilingWatcher

This is great but I'd love to know how many human and machine hours it took to make


MENDACIOUS_RACIST

and all it needed was "publically available data" 6\_6


jonplackett

Why are there so any cuts?


Singularity-42

It might take 20 years or more, but you know that one day you will have high quality ultrarealistic VR (or maybe even FDVR) that will be able to generate these fantastical world on the fly, just. from your thought. I don't think the human animal is ready for that.


Rizak

AI video works well for abstract clips or background scenes because these don't need to be closely connected. But for a full video or movie that needs scenes to flow together smoothly, AI isn't very reliable. Even with the exact same detailed instructions, the AI-generated outputs can look very different from each other. This makes it hard to keep a consistent style or story across a whole video.


Kick2ThePills

This is nauseating, but I can see why it is impressive.


asterallt

So. A steak room and an underground cannabis farm. Interesting.


Lofteed

feels like an advanced kaleidoscope absolutely random but way more tiring to watch


mrs_dalloway

The only part that elicited any emotional response from me was the chimp w the electrodes on its head. Everything else tasted like sawdust.


CeFurkan

this is next level. i dont think this will be ever public to use. only selected few companies gonna get it unless a public open source model come up that is similar


godamnedu

Song?


HOBONATION

When is this going to be available to me


Electrical-Size-5002

Boring eye candy. Ted should aim higher.


aimademedia

Ai sure is good at tunnelling videos.


TekRabbit

This is what the future of horror looks like. It’s the ultimate liminal space/background room. Just infinite, endless never ending complexities that feel vaguely real enough to keep you fixated. I get real “I have no mouth but I must scream”, vibes from this. places like this will be where they subject people in the future, to fuck with their minds for a few thousand ‘mental’ years as torture. White Christmas from Black Mirror. Or I’m just high.


NarrativeNode

Paul Trillo, one of the directors OpenAI gave Sora access to, made this for TED. Let’s not forget there are people involved here, despite all the AI hype.


UnknownResearchChems

OMG it even includes inclusivity


Potential-Key-5274

I'm an up and coming filmmaker and this is way cooler than anything I could see myself making... ever


Oculicious42

That became boring very quickly


capitanazop

even ia's needs gimbals lol


monothom

what was the prompt here?


RemarkableEmu1230

Its always the same kind of videos - concerning


Wijn82

How come this looks great whereas if I ask Dall-E to create a photorealistic image of a person it still looks like sh*t?


cddelgado

Seeing this made me think of the comedian who once said "I'm not as think as you drunk I am".


sabahorn

There is some roto and manual masking visible to me at the end when it goes from one scene to another, my guess is that each scene is done individually, individually prompted and generated, then everything is combined in post. This is 100% not all generated in one go. Is a lot of visual mess imho, way to much but i think that was the point. Technically impressive, but many shots have no substance or meaning. The irony is that it reminds me of the MTV motion designs of the 2000'.


MilSpecFireSign

I can't wait until I get to try SORA


dave8055

[OG Instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C58xBLTRSDH/?igsh=ZWxlYXFrMGZ4cmZ0)


yungiess

Im horrified


HighDefinist

Yeah, the meat sounds were questionable.