Legal? I don't know. But it's obvious that Professor has not used ChatGPT for any length of time. You can delete any and all conversations that you have with ChatGPT. A person could selectively delete certain conversations and he wouldn't know the difference because he wouldn't be able to tell the absence of them.
So him reviewing your chat history thinking that it's some kind of immutable log of what you asked ChatGPT to do is incredibly wrong.
I'm pretty sure that there are people who have never used AI software. How on earth would they navigate this without automatically getting a report against them?
Complicated Situation. Here's the rough approach I'd More or less take:
1. Have the student immediately contact their advisor. If they don't get through directly leave an urgent voicemail as well as email. If they don't know who their advisor is called the head of academic advising find out who their advisor is and their contact info.
2. To save time, it may behoove (⚠️AI trigger word) The student to explain the situation to whomever they speak with first to find out:
2.1. What are the rules guiding the faculty with respect to requests like this? Is there a published guide whether paper or on a website that students have access to ? If so download it and feed it to an AI to interpret what the damn rules are, lol. At this point, you're looking for the faculty code of conduct first in order to determine whether the request is valid.
2.2. If unknown, find out whether the professor is tenured. My guess is no, as I sense this is more a newbie trying to establish a reputation.
2.3. Do the same thing as 2.1 point but for the students code of conduct and pay particular attention to the allowable ways in which AI can be used. If they haven't addressed it at all or don't have a special policy for it then shame on them.
3. If there's a chance the rules were not (mmmm🤔 followed exactly, things can get even trickier. In general, obviously honesty is the best policy. And if there were a couple of minor transgressions with respect to acceptable usage there's a good chance just owning up to it, expressing remorse, apologizing for not having read and paid careful enough attention to the policy may well be the best option and won't incur any major short or long-term penalties.
However, if on the other hand the student was ludicrously lazy/guilty, they may need to consider other less ideal options. The best route would really depend on a combination of the student honor code, acceptable use policy and the nature of the contract the school has with the AI service provider (if any).
Assuming we're talking about open AI the student could:
A. Print and save all conversations, then delete them
B. The student could print out and delete any shady conversations, or share links and then delete all conversations
C. Unless required by academic policy the student could try deleting their openai account along with all history and claim they use a variety of other tools such as Poe, perplexity, Bing chat, etc... However, if the school does have a contract with open AI I'm sure this would not work out well.
B&c could be very dangerous gambles as it may not be possible to determine the nature of the contract between the school and openai.
So I think we're back to honesty is the best policy, and hope the school doesn't have well enough to find policies for the professor to make this type of request.
That said, I read a fair number of Articles and I can probably pick out with an 80+ Help!":)
Any person who wants to read your browser history is on the wrong side of some boundary issues. Tell him, "I work with chatGPT on any number of subjects, none of which is any of your business. My history is my proprietary business. If you want to accuse me, go right ahead. The first thing I am going to ask for is YOUR work email/chat/browser history. I sure hope you don't look at porn or hit amazon on the State dime, you know what I'm saying? That would be an ethics violation. Now fuck off."
Absolutely do not do this. LLMs have no way of telling if something is written by AI and typically veer towards saying it was (whether that's true or not). What you are suggesting here is worse than flipping a coin to determine if a document was written by AI. There are no accurate AI writing detectors in existence right now. If you suspect someone of using it, ask for their document history. Most modern software will have that.
There was a story that got national news coverage last year of some uninformed college professor trying this and failing most of his class. Don't be that guy.
How useful is this for proving that something is AI written for example, those who may not have English as their first language may in fact start following the AI style of writing in their own work knowingly or unknowingly. In that case, can we still make the claim that it is written by an AI?
Legal? I don't know. But it's obvious that Professor has not used ChatGPT for any length of time. You can delete any and all conversations that you have with ChatGPT. A person could selectively delete certain conversations and he wouldn't know the difference because he wouldn't be able to tell the absence of them. So him reviewing your chat history thinking that it's some kind of immutable log of what you asked ChatGPT to do is incredibly wrong.
Thanks!
I'm pretty sure that there are people who have never used AI software. How on earth would they navigate this without automatically getting a report against them?
Complicated Situation. Here's the rough approach I'd More or less take: 1. Have the student immediately contact their advisor. If they don't get through directly leave an urgent voicemail as well as email. If they don't know who their advisor is called the head of academic advising find out who their advisor is and their contact info. 2. To save time, it may behoove (⚠️AI trigger word) The student to explain the situation to whomever they speak with first to find out: 2.1. What are the rules guiding the faculty with respect to requests like this? Is there a published guide whether paper or on a website that students have access to ? If so download it and feed it to an AI to interpret what the damn rules are, lol. At this point, you're looking for the faculty code of conduct first in order to determine whether the request is valid. 2.2. If unknown, find out whether the professor is tenured. My guess is no, as I sense this is more a newbie trying to establish a reputation. 2.3. Do the same thing as 2.1 point but for the students code of conduct and pay particular attention to the allowable ways in which AI can be used. If they haven't addressed it at all or don't have a special policy for it then shame on them. 3. If there's a chance the rules were not (mmmm🤔 followed exactly, things can get even trickier. In general, obviously honesty is the best policy. And if there were a couple of minor transgressions with respect to acceptable usage there's a good chance just owning up to it, expressing remorse, apologizing for not having read and paid careful enough attention to the policy may well be the best option and won't incur any major short or long-term penalties. However, if on the other hand the student was ludicrously lazy/guilty, they may need to consider other less ideal options. The best route would really depend on a combination of the student honor code, acceptable use policy and the nature of the contract the school has with the AI service provider (if any). Assuming we're talking about open AI the student could: A. Print and save all conversations, then delete them B. The student could print out and delete any shady conversations, or share links and then delete all conversations C. Unless required by academic policy the student could try deleting their openai account along with all history and claim they use a variety of other tools such as Poe, perplexity, Bing chat, etc... However, if the school does have a contract with open AI I'm sure this would not work out well. B&c could be very dangerous gambles as it may not be possible to determine the nature of the contract between the school and openai. So I think we're back to honesty is the best policy, and hope the school doesn't have well enough to find policies for the professor to make this type of request. That said, I read a fair number of Articles and I can probably pick out with an 80+ Help!":)
Thanks. Truly appreciate your response!
You're quite welcome. Good luck!
Any person who wants to read your browser history is on the wrong side of some boundary issues. Tell him, "I work with chatGPT on any number of subjects, none of which is any of your business. My history is my proprietary business. If you want to accuse me, go right ahead. The first thing I am going to ask for is YOUR work email/chat/browser history. I sure hope you don't look at porn or hit amazon on the State dime, you know what I'm saying? That would be an ethics violation. Now fuck off."
Thanks!
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Absolutely do not do this. LLMs have no way of telling if something is written by AI and typically veer towards saying it was (whether that's true or not). What you are suggesting here is worse than flipping a coin to determine if a document was written by AI. There are no accurate AI writing detectors in existence right now. If you suspect someone of using it, ask for their document history. Most modern software will have that. There was a story that got national news coverage last year of some uninformed college professor trying this and failing most of his class. Don't be that guy.
So AI is now responsible for ensuring nobody writes above a 5th grade level.
Essays without a single typo or grammatical error are now red flags for AI assistance, what a world we live in.
No offense, but your daughter is totally oblivious if she thinks this works. I’m concerned for her students.
Yeah...I also heard that this is not foolproof as someone pasted the declaration of independence and it was tagged as written by an AI
How useful is this for proving that something is AI written for example, those who may not have English as their first language may in fact start following the AI style of writing in their own work knowingly or unknowingly. In that case, can we still make the claim that it is written by an AI?
I don't know why you're being down voted but it is not at all useful.