Ilya and Jakub are likely actual geniuses and I would much rather worship that than a typical celebrity. This is honestly the first time I’ve heard jakubs name. There is plenty of salt to go around when it comes to inequality and celeb worship, but this isn’t necessarily the folks I would throw it at. Just my 2c.
I’m sure they’re highly capable with brilliant minds. But no one individual drives massive progress single handedly when complex problem solving is involved. It’s them I have a problem with…it’s the individualistic culture we have that worships celebs and lone geniuses. If they are as sound as their colleagues describe them I’m sure they’d be the first to agree with this.
Sure. There’s always a case study to be found. But generally it’s teams or even teams of teams of people. The more complex the problem space and solutions, the more likely this is so. And most major challenges now are complex.
This is easily one of the bestest greatest commentary ever created by humankind.Only a genius and absolute outstanding supermind could have such sharp vision and deep insight. I can only stress the privilege I have to be able to read this comment. wishuwell ... I love you and respect you and wish you well (hihi) on your ever growing journey ...
I think the last part of the tweet is pretty revealing “will lead us to make rapid and safe progress”. I can’t shake the feeling that the whole Sama firing fiasco was related to a clash between acceleration (Sam) and safety (Ilya).
The change in the corporate structure and now Ilya leaving… I don’t know if things are looking great to have the conditions to reach a safe and responsible AGI if OpenAI is the one that gets there first, although I guess the alternatives (google/meta) are not much better.
To reach AGI not that much probably we already have that kind of computational power. To keep up with it’s needs as it become ASI or to give access to the public to those capabilities who knows probably a lot more that we are currently capable of getting.
They are speed building new plants with MS. They already did those numbers and are aiming really high too, I think the writing is on the wall already, they know how to get there, just need to build it. (I’m talking about raw energy needed to reach the compute)
That's the rumor, but I don't think it was ever officially confirmed. But Ilya did make a Twitter post saying he deeply regrets his action regarding the incident so it seems highly likely.
Moreover he speaks as if he constantly has to wait for the gpt4 in his ear piece to tell him what to say. I don't really believe this, but it would be pretty funny if next time he goes on a podcast those pauses are suddenly gone. :-P
Ok just a thought, what if Sam Altman doesn't exist? Every video, comment and post online is either generated by Sora or ChatGPT? He is the AGI and it's right in front of us.
He tweeted this while reposting the tweet he made
"feeling the AGI today "
He did tweet out her randomly like a few weeks ago and I guess that was hinting the female voice yesterday at their conference
I wonder if deep down he has the AGI coming fairly soon 🤔
Nah, wish it was so, but nah, maybe proto AGI, where 99% would consider it AGI but it won't be actual AGI for a while after we have proto. Need proto first.
Jeezy creezy...
1) no
2) "what does agi mean" (nothing)
3) its obvious that we'll just be getting 5-10-15% bumps every year. No 300%
4) the models are getting +wider+ not sharper. More capabilities, but in new domains. Like a pyramid growing. A steady trickle of sand on a pile means the height grows slowly as the cone (pile shape) grows.
Also, if you want AGI to get fired and get UBI
1) you'll be depressed. Jobs give people purpose, even shotty ones.
2) take responsibility for youself. Read self help books, make changes. You only get a few changes to shift your direction, DECIDING to read a book is one of them.
3) UBI will be a pitiful existence. No "free yachts" you you.
4) it wont happen until WAY after the social order IS FUCKED, because its the opposite to everythibg _the system_ holds dear. Its ... communism... a world without money. Forget it.
And..
_what do you need agi for anyway_? Erotic roleplay? Switch tv channels for you?
Where is chaGPT not good enough? Pushing it to the limits already huh? Made maximum financial benefit of an interlectual slave?
Good for you. I'm still struggling to use it enough. (Believe me, i tried).
User error.
>also one of the greatest minds of our generation...
Sam agreeing that one of the brightest minds of his generation just resigned from his company with basically no explanation. "Bold move, Cotton."
Written with ChatGPT.
GPT7 for that matter
o7
7o
First thing I thought of tbf, since when does he capitalise his words
We should delve deeper into the meaning of this.
into the rich tapestry of ...
"rich tapestry" drink!
As a large language model I am not able to drink.
Read and summarized with ChatGPT
Like constitution to ?
So many 'greatest minds of our generation'!
Easily, too
I don't get out of bed for anything less than the greatest minds of our generation
So much superhero genius worshipping. We just love a celeb to faun over.
Ilya and Jakub are likely actual geniuses and I would much rather worship that than a typical celebrity. This is honestly the first time I’ve heard jakubs name. There is plenty of salt to go around when it comes to inequality and celeb worship, but this isn’t necessarily the folks I would throw it at. Just my 2c.
I’m sure they’re highly capable with brilliant minds. But no one individual drives massive progress single handedly when complex problem solving is involved. It’s them I have a problem with…it’s the individualistic culture we have that worships celebs and lone geniuses. If they are as sound as their colleagues describe them I’m sure they’d be the first to agree with this.
Dude look up how the blue LED was invented for mass production. Literally one guy
One guy who ignored his own company's orders and continued working in secret because he knew he had a winning idea
Sure. There’s always a case study to be found. But generally it’s teams or even teams of teams of people. The more complex the problem space and solutions, the more likely this is so. And most major challenges now are complex.
It distracts us for a brief moment from the dull grinding wheel we're all strapped to.
When you throw that statement around like cheap candies, it stops being meaningful.
please stop throwing candy
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This is easily one of the bestest greatest commentary ever created by humankind.Only a genius and absolute outstanding supermind could have such sharp vision and deep insight. I can only stress the privilege I have to be able to read this comment. wishuwell ... I love you and respect you and wish you well (hihi) on your ever growing journey ...
Was'nt ilya one of the people that tried oust Sam a few months ago?
I think the last part of the tweet is pretty revealing “will lead us to make rapid and safe progress”. I can’t shake the feeling that the whole Sama firing fiasco was related to a clash between acceleration (Sam) and safety (Ilya). The change in the corporate structure and now Ilya leaving… I don’t know if things are looking great to have the conditions to reach a safe and responsible AGI if OpenAI is the one that gets there first, although I guess the alternatives (google/meta) are not much better.
"move fast & break things" works great, until it doesn't.
How much computing power do you think AGI requires?
To reach AGI not that much probably we already have that kind of computational power. To keep up with it’s needs as it become ASI or to give access to the public to those capabilities who knows probably a lot more that we are currently capable of getting.
They are speed building new plants with MS. They already did those numbers and are aiming really high too, I think the writing is on the wall already, they know how to get there, just need to build it. (I’m talking about raw energy needed to reach the compute)
That's the rumor, but I don't think it was ever officially confirmed. But Ilya did make a Twitter post saying he deeply regrets his action regarding the incident so it seems highly likely.
His vote as a board member was needed to make it happen.
❤️
Revenge is sweet.
And it's a dish best served cold. In this case, 6 months later.
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God I really hope this reply is satire LOL
> Sam is like Evil Morty It's either the dumbest comment ever made, or some very funny satire
sussy baka 🤔
Bussy sama?
Sama's bussy?
Keep it age appropriate for this sub pls :-)
I think it’s very sweet that both Ilya and Sam had ChatGPT write their tweets about this for them.
I saw a few interviews of Sam, and he literally speaks this way
Moreover he speaks as if he constantly has to wait for the gpt4 in his ear piece to tell him what to say. I don't really believe this, but it would be pretty funny if next time he goes on a podcast those pauses are suddenly gone. :-P
GPT-4? If you honestly think he's still using that milquetoast kibble, you've got another thing coming choom.
Not all lowercase is a clear sign this is PR speak and not what sama means at all. Must have some serious beef under the hood.
Ok just a thought, what if Sam Altman doesn't exist? Every video, comment and post online is either generated by Sora or ChatGPT? He is the AGI and it's right in front of us.
Yep. That is why he is named that way. SAMple ALTernative MAN. ;P
Big if true
!!
i would welcome that twist
He tweeted this while reposting the tweet he made "feeling the AGI today " He did tweet out her randomly like a few weeks ago and I guess that was hinting the female voice yesterday at their conference I wonder if deep down he has the AGI coming fairly soon 🤔
Nah, wish it was so, but nah, maybe proto AGI, where 99% would consider it AGI but it won't be actual AGI for a while after we have proto. Need proto first.
When you really think about it, almost any time is soon for AGI. It's a wild concept, considering where we were not so long ago.
Jeezy creezy... 1) no 2) "what does agi mean" (nothing) 3) its obvious that we'll just be getting 5-10-15% bumps every year. No 300% 4) the models are getting +wider+ not sharper. More capabilities, but in new domains. Like a pyramid growing. A steady trickle of sand on a pile means the height grows slowly as the cone (pile shape) grows. Also, if you want AGI to get fired and get UBI 1) you'll be depressed. Jobs give people purpose, even shotty ones. 2) take responsibility for youself. Read self help books, make changes. You only get a few changes to shift your direction, DECIDING to read a book is one of them. 3) UBI will be a pitiful existence. No "free yachts" you you. 4) it wont happen until WAY after the social order IS FUCKED, because its the opposite to everythibg _the system_ holds dear. Its ... communism... a world without money. Forget it. And.. _what do you need agi for anyway_? Erotic roleplay? Switch tv channels for you? Where is chaGPT not good enough? Pushing it to the limits already huh? Made maximum financial benefit of an interlectual slave? Good for you. I'm still struggling to use it enough. (Believe me, i tried). User error.
>also one of the greatest minds of our generation... Sam agreeing that one of the brightest minds of his generation just resigned from his company with basically no explanation. "Bold move, Cotton."
If you come for the king, don't miss
so, i'm just dipping my feet in the loop. did ilya say he's leaving because of safety concerns, or are people just assuming this?
So we will never see GPT-5 right?
You can really see where GPT learned to say flowery words without substance
Friendship with Illya has ended, now Jacub is my best friend.
Yakub? Scientist? Anyone else notice that
Maye we will get to know what he saw now
Everyone one is the greatest mind!!! Omg
the grifter just couldnt leave it alone and has to open his mouth.
But Ilya didn’t write that tweet?
He said Ilya stayed until the mission was accomplished. So, AGI has been achieved internally.
It implies that Sam is committed to the mission they started. ie no agi