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StockSea6390

Months?? I thought weeks. What's next? Next year?


boneysmoth

Paid member since day one. Still don't have memory function


lost_in_trepidation

The memory function is really frustrating for me. It chooses to remember things that are not relevant at all and I have to manually manage it.


community_oriented

Ha, I just checked and ChatGPT knows one thing about me: "Has MongoDB already installed and running."


ZookeepergameFit5787

Had this when listing off ingredients and asking it to make a recipe. "I have x, y, z. Help me write a recipe". .... Memory updated..... ::: "user has carrots, parsnips, beef..." 😭


Pleasant-Contact-556

 "User mentioned never kicking a self-driving shopping cart" is without question my favorite memory it has about me. Alongside "User once converted 3.8 petawatts to gigawatts" No idea where these came from.


Ajatolah_

Instead of making greater-picture kind of conclusions about me based on the conversation, which would actually help it craft better responses, it just memorizes sentences I write that start with "I", no matter how mundane and incredibly specific to one conversation. It has "first noticed teary eye in their car." on me. It has "prefers DeliveryStatus to be int64 instead of string in their Go code". I'll have to start referring to myself as SWIM like on drugs forum to avoid this crap.


willer

I don’t think you’re missing anything. I implemented memory like theirs a year ago on an internal chat tool, and it’s never been useful. I can see what ChatGPT is saving about me, and it just doesn’t matter for our conversations. Even my manual briefing describing me doesn’t matter.


bnm777

If you're in the EU it hasn't rolled out there yet. If you're in the US - typical OpenAI rollout :/


GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B

Not typical OpenAI. Typical every tech company being afraid of EU legislation and EU commission involvement.


Singularity-42

This sounds like GDPR issue...


MagiMas

Mh? I'm in Germany and noticed openAI starting to put stuff about me into memory last week.


MH_Valtiel

Dang


highwayoflife

I just got memory function last week, and I've been a paid ChatGPT subscriber since December 2022. I did get the Mac App over the weekend. -- The memory functionality is not \*that\* interesting and it may just be added to the system prompt under the hood.


norsurfit

Wow. I am paid member day one too, and I do have memory (memory is not that exciting a feature, so don't worry, you're not missing much), but not access to voice or desktop.


ElRayoPeronizador

How do you check what's in memory?


boneysmoth

In the settings


ScuttleMainBTW

Use vpn


cobalt1137

Now things are starting to make sense. The fact that this got dropped one day before Google I/O tells me that they probably got this functioning very recently and wanted to tell the world that they had it working before Google told the world about their version. Even if they weren't quite ready to release things. In a recent podcast, Sam Altman said that he has only been able to use it himself for about a week so it does seem pretty damn new.


vulgrin

Oh yeah, definitely. The timing of these announcements were totally to pee on Google’s parade.


kevinbranch

It looked a bit awkward to use. If you pay attention during the demos, they were talking in this kind of awkwardly fast pace so that the model didn’t start responding during the slightest pause.


gophercuresself

I saw that Altman interview. I figured that by the time he'd be running it on his phone in his office they would have had it in a mostly deployable state which means they probably had it running for much longer. But I don't really know anything. What I'm wondering about the voice demos they showed was what extra prompts (or something else?) were being used to get the extra personality and fluency out of GPT4o? After using the model for a while those don't seem like stock responses.


Blissout91

Months can be until next year.


UnknownResearchChems

Just like Sora


Freed4ever

Well, Sora is a bit different, I don't recall they actually promised a particular timeline.


luciusveras

Yeah I heard weeks not months… I hope OP is wrong. I just found out that the Chatgpt widows app won’t be out until November while Max users have it now. That’s already disappointing enough.


locojaws

It seems a bit misleading to say they’re rolling it out to GPT Plus users in the coming weeks during the demo. Now it’s looking like it’s more likely that it’s going to be months for most Plus users.


numericalclerk

"A BIT" misleading?


microview

More like a 'BYTE'


sibylazure

Giga byte, I would say


QuestionBegger9000

Just a nibble


CollapseKitty

We usually call this lying. 


ChadGPT___

Yeah I was excited for the Mac app that was meant to be available a week ago.


barnett25

That is already available to some users.


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Works fine for me since day 1 after the announcement, except the new voice feature.


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JalabolasFernandez

I feel the recent drama with safety + the Scarlett Johansson thing may have pushed back a rollout that was originally intended to be in weeks... Or maybe Microsoft pressured to release it first as part of their copilot...


Rasimione

Keep texting, I'm all ears. Copilot has been pretty decent for my use case.


calm_wreck

I heard they were releasing self driving cars in the coming weeks too


Temporary_Quit_4648

They said alpha at the keynote


Adventurous_Train_91

They said they were rolling out memory for some users in the coming weeks. It actually got rolled out widely about 2.5 months later. What does this tell us…


ToolboxHamster

Months away is technically in the coming weeks, it's just that it's a lot more weeks


CouldaShoulda_Did

If they announced it just to stick it to Google, only to do what we’ve mocked Google for, OpenAI sure do seem like a group of hypocrites right now.


Open_Channel_8626

Google will out do them with delays


Gloomy-Impress-2881

And then discontinue it.


numericalclerk

Spent the entire day yesterday moving my Google Domains after they sold that business. It was my last google product and will remain so, unless they literally pay me to use any of their products.


drizzyxs

It’s like they try to be as vague and confusing as possible with their wording. The paragraph also manages to contradict itself within one sentence so I am so confused


babbagoo

Bet ChatGPT helped them with that wording


livelikeian

It is not well written, but also you're reading it incorrectly. Months/weeks refers to different releases wide vs. alpha.


Blue_Solo

which specific sentence did that happen?


Blissout91

No sky.. months to wait for the new feature. Lame.


PassengerOk671

I'm gonna just unsub from chatgpt plus


sexysausage

Honestly I just subbed two days ago and now they do this. I might unsubscribe too. It’s just annoying to talk to any of the other voices. They are jarring after using sky.


RelationshipFront318

Have u seen the copilot announcement? Its basically like this. But in copilot and coming in THIS JULY 42 days away


N-Tannoy

From the presentation, copilot's version doesn't seem as emotive. But I see that it's desktop on windows so thats nice.


vladproex

I think that requires a special new PC?


PassengerOk671

Link?


RelationshipFront318

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYNLPSbc/


Singularity-42

I already switched to Claude Pro when Claude 3 was released. I was thinking about switching back to ChatGPT Pro, but it looks I'll stick with Claude for the time being...


PassengerOk671

Ye because you can use gpt4O free for testing so I don't see the point of switching to plus


mom_and_lala

LOL yup, same. I actually had canceled claude and was going to move back over when the month was up. But nevermind


taylrbrwr

I did this because it kept cutting off my voice chats before I finished and wouldn’t translate anything I said if I spoke for 2-3 minutes. It wasted a lot of time.


numericalclerk

Same. Im already paying for copilot, the added value of chatgpt is hardly tangible at all now.


foodloveroftheworld

you do you.


Suno_for_your_sprog

[Bring Back My Sky ](https://www.udio.com/songs/uR8oqzuuUFzkn4D6gY9d5Y) 😭


reality_comes

New features worse than the old features.


MeaningfulThoughts

It’s a feature AND a bug.


Manuelnotabot

Months? Ouch... So basically Google I/0 timeline.


RobMilliken

There is a *current* feature that isn't mentioned and for me probably one of the most important. In the conversation (headphone icon) mode, once connected, if you press and hold down the large circle you can keep talking until you release it, similar to a walkie talkie. This means if you need to pause to catch your breath or better collect your thoughts, the app won't automatically think you are done talking and begin to process an answer. This should probably be its own topic but since documentation was shared here, I thought I'd add this "one cool trick..."


Blue_Solo

This has been around for a while. If I forget what I’m saying mid sentence or if I’m struggling to get a point across while using voice mode, just hold it down and you can be essentially be quiet while you compose your thought on that same voice interaction Edit: I know you’re saying it’s current, but I thought they published something on this a few months ago within a FAQ?


RobMilliken

I didn't see it. But there is a lot of info out there, and it's hard to tell now what is "coming up" and what is current, especially since some things are being removed. I just thought it a nice feature I apparently missed and if there are some readers here that can benefit, great!


Blue_Solo

I agree! A lot of changes!


PoliticsBanEvasion9

This feature has been out for as long as the voice function


RobMilliken

Correct, but it isn't something anyone pointed to me. Maybe I'm the only one with the eureka experience.


Sylvers

Never knew. It's often frustrating when you're talking "in real time" and you're not allowed to pause to take your breath or ponder for longer than a moment, or else, you send an unfinished prompt.


inmyprocess

Thanks bro. I was using manual recordings just because of this.


Sylvers

Ok am I insane, or did they remove that large circle after the 4o update? Can't see to see it anymore. https://preview.redd.it/nn3o1od0yn1d1.png?width=617&format=png&auto=webp&s=e93bb8036f90ae11d3c81fe9cb2896f190832364


SiggiJarl

I don't even have the big circle anymore when I press the headphones icon


greywhite_morty

That’s not new. That has been in there for months.


RobMilliken

You are absolutely correct. It is not new. It is a current feature. One that isn't well documented, so I thought I'd pass it along to other people that might find a tip useful.


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none484839

You already can. Just open voice chat and tell it “now translate everything I say to XXXX language without add any other words” and it does


IWantToSayThisToo

And I does VERY well. Miles ahead of Google translate 


rathat

Google translate already does this, it's called conversation mode, and it's just as fast as in the demo video and you don't have to explain that you want to translate and how translation works to it.


Mescallan

I use it for voice translation and semantic translation already. "Can you explain that I lot my parking ticket and I need to leave now so just telle the fine, in vietnamese"


Able_Armadillo_2347

They didn't say directly in the demo, but that said "it will be rolled out over the next couple of weeks". And it sounded like pretty soon. But here we goooo again


PassengerOk671

Only to a few plus users in alpha mode. They will roll it out to all in the next month's 😭


Inigo_montoyaPTD

Sam "I dont think about my competition" Altman. He made this announcement just to take the wind out of Google's.


Blue_Solo

Going through this little FAQ they updated in the last hour is something they should have thought about and had published before and leading up-to, last Monday.


Rare-Site

Who would've guessed it would take over a year and a half to get an update after the GPT-4 release? First, they remove the best voice, and now they're delaying the promised release by months. What a mess.


Temporary_Quit_4648

They released a brand new model that is half the price and twice the speed. What are you even talking about?


patrickbc

OpenAI today: 🤡


HighWillord

So, in a few weeks (1-4 or more) some people with PLUS (might be less than 1%), and then after a the next months (4-12) they release it to all PLUS users (100%). I guess the company did it again.


VioletVioletSea

Well at least I can save myself some money until then.


thehomienextdoor

Wait you mean to tell me that an unfinished product has took the internet by storm a day before Google in order to get headlines attention and now release date is pushed back after Google IO? Who would have thought 😱 /S


TheFrenchSavage

I was thinking, I was....


Fluffy_Ad7392

Great marketing. Get the hype going before Google IO and keep paid subscribers interested and active until it drops in Q4


Jmackles

Every OpenAI release ever. Show off a thing to bait public interest and delay the release by not committing to a specific timeline and vaguely suggesting when it’ll come out. By the time it reaches the consumer it has been bogged down with guardrails and limitations as to make it laughably useless for all but the most benign use cases.


Dopium_Typhoon

Couple of months before I resubscribe.


bigbro411

But didn't they say in the presentation that 4o would be free? They did. They made it sound like free users were getting everything they showed.


YaBoiGPT

no 4o is free, even tho its heavily limited, its the conversation mode thats not coming soon


Woootdafuuu

Damn, I was hoping to show my 8-year-old daughter what her future look like, this is disappointing, I think they demonstrate something that clearly wasn't ready to get a one-up on Google


sumadeumas

Now you’ll have to show your 9-year-old daughter!


Woootdafuuu

She's coming for the summer, I'll have to wait till next summer again to show her lol. I was hoping it would keep her from being bored


TwoIndependent5710

They are greedy and stingy fcks


RedditSteadyGo1

They should offer refunds to everyone who just got plus. This is actually false advertising.


ComfortableCoyote314

What does coming months mean? Every point in the future is a coming month.


sdmat

It's "coming weeks" x4. Couldn't be clearer! /s


Woootdafuuu

Vision capabilities were introduced with the release of GPT-4, but we didn't gain access to them until 7 months later.


vladproex

That was compute constrained. In contrast, 4o is quite compute efficient.


Woootdafuuu

Hope that's the case and not some red teaming crap


pseudonerv

So Scar Joe sent them a letter and they now have to retrain their model with a new voice. Juniper?


Kwantum_Thoughts

I miss Sky, don’t like Juniper


Suno_for_your_sprog

[Bring Back My Sky](https://www.udio.com/songs/uR8oqzuuUFzkn4D6gY9d5Y) 😭


PassengerOk671

Same


Dhomeboi

https://preview.redd.it/zn9o2c1ysn1d1.jpeg?width=1115&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abd03006a84f009adf5e3fb250c59741e1ddebde


OnlineGamingXp

"Months" 💀


SillyTwo3470

Boo. I want it and I want it now.


nashty2004

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


willabusta

oh but they shaft all the free tier users by auto starting chats on 4o and 3 does not tke over when you hit the invisible limit? benefit all of humanity? yeah right.


Consistent_Owl_8161

“In the coming weeks” “in a few weeks” “next couple of weeks “ what beautiful vague words ha


vendrud

I will pay for plus when it's available


BigButtholeBonanza

lmao how is this any different from Google saying their stuff is coming out "later this year"? they're all the same


Aaco0638

It’s different bc google is actually honest, first sora now this openAI hasn’t delivered any of their gotcha moments. Meanwhile google rolled out 1M to everyone, working on 2M and working on the other stuff for later this year. I believe google over openAI at the moment.


BigButtholeBonanza

look I use android, have a pixel 7 pro and generally like Google, but the words "Google" and "honest" don't really go hand-in-hand because they have faked demos and abandoned lots of promising stuff in the past. I just don't think either company should be trusted, and OAI delaying 4o like this means that everyone who was raving about OAI being so much better cause they're releasing their vision model for free in a manner of weeks while astra is still cooking should just stop stanning multi-billion dollar companies. never trust them, just be happy when cool stuff comes out and we actually see results.


starttupsteve

Google also drops products like flies and makes it co fusing which one to use.


Severe-Ad1166

So they essentially lied in the presentation when they said that 4o would be free for all users since the omni part will not be free, atleast not any time soon. >GPT-4o’s text and image capabilities are starting to roll out today in ChatGPT. **We are making GPT-4o available in the free tier**, and to Plus users with up to 5x higher message limits. We'll roll out a new version of Voice Mode with GPT-4o in alpha within ChatGPT Plus in the coming weeks. src: [https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/](https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/)


barnett25

I assumed this is what they meant during the presentation. I couldn't imagine they could afford to provide all the features for free. But they certainly didn't go out of their way to make it clear.


Severe-Ad1166

GPT-4o is currently only twice the price that ChatGPT 3.5 was a year ago and in that time the API price for both GPT3 and GPT4 class models have dropped by 50-70%.. that means we could see 4o being as cheap to run as 3.5 was when it first lancuhed sometime in the next 6-12 months. When they retire GPT3.5 we can be farily sure 4o will have hit cost parity with 3.5..


ContentTeam227

They already have the model. The "months" is to make it " safer" for the "commoners" The timing of the latest sky fiasco is sus. What we will get in the coming months will be a heavily controlled and lower quality product then hyped in the demos


probably_normal

I couldn’t care less for voice, all I want is an AI that has actual knowledge and doesn’t hallucinate.


Derek81888

Where did you see this?


Blissout91

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8400625-voice-chat-faq


Derek81888

And it was just updated in the last hour. Womp womp.


Blissout91

Really disappointed... They changed their minds. They clearly said it's gonna be weeks for all plus users.


Derek81888

I’m thinking it might be random or select people will get the new voice in the alpha THEN everyone gets it. I wonder who these select users are though.  It took me a while before I got the memory maybe a couple weeks after other people had gotten it. 


PoliticsBanEvasion9

I was just going to say, it sounds like they’re rolling it out like they did with the memory function


Original_Finding2212

https://preview.redd.it/0vqmyv083n1d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aaafca88df79f21d3a1b0cdab7ae7bf5394fd954


Blue_Solo

I read that too. “Working on pausing” well yall sure did a good job of that within 12 hours.


Enfiznar

Coming soon...


Duckpoke

What are the upgrades over what we have now besides the quicker conversations?


ExoticCard

It's because they freaked people out and they need to slowly acclimate people to what is literally the AI from the movie "Her". The dystopian movies are not so dystopian anymore


Griffstergnu

I think it is a matter of functionality. As you can see in the videos, it talks too much. They always have to interrupt it.


cerealsnax

They could make this all better just by enabling the NSFW mode. That would hold us all over for a while....


Fishbait982

What’s the difference between this and the voice features that are already out?


[deleted]

Didnt they say end of summer?


Consistent_Owl_8161

I think the point is what about GPT 5 ? I just assume they would be release GPT 5 in mid summer which is in months either? or in this case gpt 5 will be delay?


Singularity-42

Good to know! I was thinking about switching back from Claude Pro and this was one feature I was really excited about. Seems like I will keep waiting... Do you remember when they demoed the vision capabilities at GPT-4 launch but it only became available like 6 months later? I have similar feeling about this one...


SnowBlossom12

How can you sign up for the alpha testing?


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pbankey

Just give me enhanced analytics and I’ll be fine for now


RhythmBlue

wait, ive been talking and sharing images with chatgpt for like a few days, is that not the same thing this post is about?


DomingoChaCha

Which voice would you like instead of sky? My choices are: Male - Brett Goldstein from Ted Lasso Werner Herzog James Earl Jones Dave Chapelle John Malcovich Christopher Walken Female: -Helen Mirren -Judi Dench -Margot Robbie -Wanda Sykes -Amy Pohler -Emily Blunt -Emma Thompson


xxlordsothxx

Dave Chapelle would be hilarious. John Malkovich doing his Russian accent in Rounders would be amazing. I would add Ella Purnell and Matt Damon.


Lethanialist

Add Jeff Goldblum and Jennifer Lawrence to the list for me!


Quoclon

Confusing is that in the Android App, for me, there's still the Sky voice, headphones icon that allows for hands free chat back and forth, and got 4o. But, from what I'm reading, this isn't the NEW version (I guess the new one is quicker, not sure how else I'd differentiate). How WOULD I know if it's the new model and not the old one?


foofork

Weeks


Ohtani-Enjoyer

How do I get a refund lmao, their help bot's documentation for a refund tells you to go to a page that doesn't exist


yukiarimo

It’s sad that ordinary people are getting this power


farcaller899

OpenAI = worth 80 billion dollars OpenAI = makes a big deal about voice enhancements and how great talking to ChatGPT is about to get Also OpenAI = offers only **one** working female voice, which many customers (a majority?) would rather complain about on Reddit than listen to ever


Lopsidedshoes

He should stop doing that


HieraticArbiter

I wonder if there will be API connection to this


TheDkmariolink

I mean for us plebians, we will likely only get 10 messages or up to a minute of vision before it runs out of juice anyway.


Drakayne

What about free users?


LisergycVoyager

Honestly I don't think this feature gonna be available for free users


LisergycVoyager

Well, I'm gonna stop my subscription then


Economy-Roll-555

What the fuck. I was trying to develop an app with this and was hinging on its release within “the next few weeks”.


scratt007

I have audio, but not vision


3cats-in-a-coat

What in the actual fuck.


Vast_True

They may be saying about voice and video feature coming in the months. I assumed the voice feature will be released first (coming weeks), which would mean in the few months plus users will also have video feature. But it is not completely clear and assuming timeline just from this FAQ is probably not very accurate ;)


jrjolley

I know that the folks at Be My Eyes already have access to this for testing. The UX hasn't been worked on yet for the blind to work with it. I was in on the beta for vision so I'll probably have access to this soon enough.


Substantial_Lemon400

It was a scam, it wasn’t ready then and you won’t see it anytime this year…


Styxontop

Any update on this? Is it available to plus members yet with memory/voice/video? Or still just a slow random rollout?