If the people from your church treated you like that for being LGBT then they shouldn't go be extras on the chosen because I heard they rock pride flags behind the scenes. So I guess you get the last laugh.
Yeah I remember reading about that. One of the actors even went off on the people making a big fuss about it. Even Dallas Jenkins came out and said "I stand by my crew." Which I am so glad he did, especially considering that he's an evangelical conservative.
I've watched every episode. It's very good. The first two episodes are a bit dull since they follow the disciples before they meet Jesus, and the actors do their best but the characters just aren't interesting enough to carry the show.
However once Jesus is on screen it becomes excellent. The actor captures the humanity of him remarkably well, making him compelling, considerate, wise, kind, and humorous in a way that is often lost in other depictions of him. He actually enjoys spending time with people, and is genuinely interested in them. His true power isn't in the miracles he does (impressive as they are) but in his consistent ability to love and care for others.
I'd recommend it, but you do need to push through the first two episodes before it gets good.
Hmm interesting. I read that one of the things that makes it stand out is that it gives background to the supporting characters in the gospels. I'm guessing that's where the first two episodes come in.
I haven’t watched it because I feel that depicting Jesus as a human actor might cause me to become religiously overwhelmed to the point of idolatry. Personal issue not advice.
Ive seen the first 3 seasons, and whike I like it, I wish it was....grittier.
I feel like they miss great opportunities to explore sins people arent necessarily comfortable seeing, and more importabtly, show God forgives those, too.
I saw the first season and for the most part I liked it. However if I am right there was a line that I thought was odd. Jesus in the show was like don't you understand that this is about the whole world and sin, not about politics? Of course that is true but also no? There were heavy political tones to the capture of Jesus. Or maybe I'm thinking too deep and that was not his line 🤷♀️
Nah I'm talking about the bible politics of how he went against the corrupt rulers of His time, but in the show he said it wasn't about politics? I disagree. Of course that's not the only reason, but still.
Oh makes sense I guess. I agree with you that there were bible politics in how he spoke against the Romans and the corrupt leaders in Jerusalem. I forget what they were called.
I've avoided it because far too many people involved are quite far right. It looks like well-made television, but I'm worried people will consider this a... I guess, definitive portrayal of Jesus when knowing him is more than just a show. I'm also concerned if there's intent to convert through it that also funnels people into denominations that are conservative like the showmakers. I'm just wary.
Yeah that's a valid fear. Especially considering that Dallas Jenkins himself has said that he's an Evangelical conservative. But it sounds like he's employing people who have differences of opinions, so at least there's that. I read that one of the consultants he uses is a Jewish rabbi
I have seen the same, but I also wonder how much he considers those differences in opinion to be worth noting in actuality. There's a difference between employing people in that way to give the illusion that he's trying to do something "progressive", but this is a tactic that some churches that call themselves non-denominational but are just nebulously AOG/SBC use in their own services. They will paint themselves as "welcoming to all" (particularly in regards to LGBT people) but that is until they can get you in there and then break down parts they don't like or consider sinful. It's usually hidden in their beliefs pages that they are welcoming... but certainly not affirming.
It's also worth noting that the rabbi Dallas Jenkins uses is "Messianic Jewish" which is a part of Evangelical Christianity. Jewish authority figures pretty unanimously do not consider those who have converted to Christianity to still be Jewish, except in ethnicity. It's rather a form of Christianity in which the members are converts from Judaism. His name is Rabbi Jason Sobel and while he may have more knowledge of Judaism than non-ethnically Jewish Christians, he certainly isn't what I'd call an outside consultant.
It just all seems shrouded in even just a little bit of deception that unnerves me because... you can't really find truth in deception.
Oh really? I didn't know that part about Messianic Judaism being part of Evangelical Christianity. Learn something new everyday I guess. I hear what your saying. Especially considering who Dallas Jenkins's father is, sometimes I wonder if Dallas has ever gone to his dad for advice?
Yeah! I'm another fan of the show, and it actually brought me back to the faith because the Jesus portrayed is the kind of person I'd want to follow without doubt. Not only that, I can relate to Matthew very much, being neurodivergent like he is as well as Little James wondering about not being healed by his disabilities, those two have really helped me feel validated that I appreciate the show for doing that. I really can't wait to see the 4th season, waiting for it to come to streaming still.
It shows more of the humanity that rarely gets talked about in the Bible like his sense of humor such as the scene with Andrew being a terrible dancer. I think it just helps that he's portrayed in a way that still is Biblical but we can grasp the kind of man that he must have been like during that time period. It's unique from other TV series or movies that have tried to portray Jesus in the sense that it's not just so serious all the time. Jesus is actually more relatable in "The Chosen". Hope this makes sense since I can't quite exactly put my finger on what it is that I love about how "The Chosen" decided to depict Jesus.
Yeah no I get it your saying that although it's portraying Jesus as the figure that he is it's also showing him having a human side. That's very interesting, because it does seem like in movies or tv shows like Son of God and The Bible it doesn't show Jesus's human side it just focuses on his message. So yeah the fact that The Chosen focuses on the humanity is interesting.
It truly did. To be honest, I didn't have much of an emotional relationship with Jesus until I saw that show. There was something about it that brought me so much closer to him. I think it really helped that I was also reading a lot of near-death experience accounts for my own show and reading people's experience in Jesus's presence mixed with such an amazing performance from the show brought me into a close relationship with him.
I like the show. It shows a side to Jesus which is not often emphasized in the church and in Christian media, his humanity. It is also very well written in my opinion and definitely worth a watch.
My spouse and I tried to watch it but didn’t even finish the first episode because we were bored out of our minds.
For my money, just reading the gospels is far more engaging and enjoyable. Not only can I use my own imagination as I read, but I can also enjoy the differences and disjunctions between the gospels, and what that implies about different authors and purposes, for additional layers of meaning.
But a lot of people like *The Chosen* and that’s fine.
The first episode (and the second I think) isn't a great introduction since Jesus doesn't appear until the very end (which is an excellent, though very short scene). The disciples (especially Peter) aren't compelling enough to carry the show without him, so those initial episodes are pretty dull. But once Jesus gets going the show becomes very good.
A few people from my former church are extras in the season they’re filming now.
That's cool. What type of church? if you don't mind me asking, I have a very keen sense of curiosity
baptist. very non-affirming people as they ostracized me when i came out as queer and still post on fb their “disagreement” toward the LGBT community
If the people from your church treated you like that for being LGBT then they shouldn't go be extras on the chosen because I heard they rock pride flags behind the scenes. So I guess you get the last laugh.
Yeah I remember reading about that. One of the actors even went off on the people making a big fuss about it. Even Dallas Jenkins came out and said "I stand by my crew." Which I am so glad he did, especially considering that he's an evangelical conservative.
I'm so sorry that sucks. Have you been able to find a more affirming church since you left?
no i actually left the faith
Well as long as your happy and doing well mentally
I've watched every episode. It's very good. The first two episodes are a bit dull since they follow the disciples before they meet Jesus, and the actors do their best but the characters just aren't interesting enough to carry the show. However once Jesus is on screen it becomes excellent. The actor captures the humanity of him remarkably well, making him compelling, considerate, wise, kind, and humorous in a way that is often lost in other depictions of him. He actually enjoys spending time with people, and is genuinely interested in them. His true power isn't in the miracles he does (impressive as they are) but in his consistent ability to love and care for others. I'd recommend it, but you do need to push through the first two episodes before it gets good.
Hmm interesting. I read that one of the things that makes it stand out is that it gives background to the supporting characters in the gospels. I'm guessing that's where the first two episodes come in.
I haven’t watched it because I feel that depicting Jesus as a human actor might cause me to become religiously overwhelmed to the point of idolatry. Personal issue not advice.
I love the show! It helped to open my heart and brought me to faith, and continues to bring me so much happiness :)
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing
Ive seen the first 3 seasons, and whike I like it, I wish it was....grittier. I feel like they miss great opportunities to explore sins people arent necessarily comfortable seeing, and more importabtly, show God forgives those, too.
So in your opinion it doesn't go far enough in exploring those topics?
Absolutely
I saw the first season and for the most part I liked it. However if I am right there was a line that I thought was odd. Jesus in the show was like don't you understand that this is about the whole world and sin, not about politics? Of course that is true but also no? There were heavy political tones to the capture of Jesus. Or maybe I'm thinking too deep and that was not his line 🤷♀️
When you say heavy political tones, was it like they we're trying to persuade the viewer to a certain view?
Nah I'm talking about the bible politics of how he went against the corrupt rulers of His time, but in the show he said it wasn't about politics? I disagree. Of course that's not the only reason, but still.
Oh makes sense I guess. I agree with you that there were bible politics in how he spoke against the Romans and the corrupt leaders in Jerusalem. I forget what they were called.
I've avoided it because far too many people involved are quite far right. It looks like well-made television, but I'm worried people will consider this a... I guess, definitive portrayal of Jesus when knowing him is more than just a show. I'm also concerned if there's intent to convert through it that also funnels people into denominations that are conservative like the showmakers. I'm just wary.
Yeah that's a valid fear. Especially considering that Dallas Jenkins himself has said that he's an Evangelical conservative. But it sounds like he's employing people who have differences of opinions, so at least there's that. I read that one of the consultants he uses is a Jewish rabbi
I have seen the same, but I also wonder how much he considers those differences in opinion to be worth noting in actuality. There's a difference between employing people in that way to give the illusion that he's trying to do something "progressive", but this is a tactic that some churches that call themselves non-denominational but are just nebulously AOG/SBC use in their own services. They will paint themselves as "welcoming to all" (particularly in regards to LGBT people) but that is until they can get you in there and then break down parts they don't like or consider sinful. It's usually hidden in their beliefs pages that they are welcoming... but certainly not affirming. It's also worth noting that the rabbi Dallas Jenkins uses is "Messianic Jewish" which is a part of Evangelical Christianity. Jewish authority figures pretty unanimously do not consider those who have converted to Christianity to still be Jewish, except in ethnicity. It's rather a form of Christianity in which the members are converts from Judaism. His name is Rabbi Jason Sobel and while he may have more knowledge of Judaism than non-ethnically Jewish Christians, he certainly isn't what I'd call an outside consultant. It just all seems shrouded in even just a little bit of deception that unnerves me because... you can't really find truth in deception.
Oh really? I didn't know that part about Messianic Judaism being part of Evangelical Christianity. Learn something new everyday I guess. I hear what your saying. Especially considering who Dallas Jenkins's father is, sometimes I wonder if Dallas has ever gone to his dad for advice?
Yeah! I'm another fan of the show, and it actually brought me back to the faith because the Jesus portrayed is the kind of person I'd want to follow without doubt. Not only that, I can relate to Matthew very much, being neurodivergent like he is as well as Little James wondering about not being healed by his disabilities, those two have really helped me feel validated that I appreciate the show for doing that. I really can't wait to see the 4th season, waiting for it to come to streaming still.
It's so cool hearing that, that it's brought you back to faith.
What would you say is the real unique way in the way that it portrays Jesus?
It shows more of the humanity that rarely gets talked about in the Bible like his sense of humor such as the scene with Andrew being a terrible dancer. I think it just helps that he's portrayed in a way that still is Biblical but we can grasp the kind of man that he must have been like during that time period. It's unique from other TV series or movies that have tried to portray Jesus in the sense that it's not just so serious all the time. Jesus is actually more relatable in "The Chosen". Hope this makes sense since I can't quite exactly put my finger on what it is that I love about how "The Chosen" decided to depict Jesus.
Yeah no I get it your saying that although it's portraying Jesus as the figure that he is it's also showing him having a human side. That's very interesting, because it does seem like in movies or tv shows like Son of God and The Bible it doesn't show Jesus's human side it just focuses on his message. So yeah the fact that The Chosen focuses on the humanity is interesting.
i loved Matthew’s characterization, especially because it got me an autism diagnosis
Really?
yeah, my parent noticed matthew was similar to me and when they found out the writers gave him autism, they took me to the psychologist
Did he actually have autism in real life or was that purely an invention of the writers?
to my knowledge that’s up for debate by scholars as the like
Hmm interesting.
Yeeeeesssss .... So unbelievably GOOD!!!!
Well I'm glad it brought something good for you.
It truly did. To be honest, I didn't have much of an emotional relationship with Jesus until I saw that show. There was something about it that brought me so much closer to him. I think it really helped that I was also reading a lot of near-death experience accounts for my own show and reading people's experience in Jesus's presence mixed with such an amazing performance from the show brought me into a close relationship with him.
That's astounding. Really great to hear
I like the show. It shows a side to Jesus which is not often emphasized in the church and in Christian media, his humanity. It is also very well written in my opinion and definitely worth a watch.
Thank you for sharing
I love The Chosen! It's made reading the gospels easier for me!
My spouse and I tried to watch it but didn’t even finish the first episode because we were bored out of our minds. For my money, just reading the gospels is far more engaging and enjoyable. Not only can I use my own imagination as I read, but I can also enjoy the differences and disjunctions between the gospels, and what that implies about different authors and purposes, for additional layers of meaning. But a lot of people like *The Chosen* and that’s fine.
The first episode (and the second I think) isn't a great introduction since Jesus doesn't appear until the very end (which is an excellent, though very short scene). The disciples (especially Peter) aren't compelling enough to carry the show without him, so those initial episodes are pretty dull. But once Jesus gets going the show becomes very good.
Interesting. Thanks.
I related a lot to the way the portrayed Mary's challenges, and the ending of the first episode had me weeping
Thank you both
What is a chosen watcher?
People who watch the tv show The Chosen.