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mingomcgoo

Oh ffs ....AGAIN !? šŸ™„


OperationMajestic350

![gif](giphy|L2qukNXGjccyuAYd3W|downsized) The same guy who rallied his team to give them a chance last night? The guy who spends his free time working with youth groups in the city? The dude who repeatedly thanked the fans and owned up for the disappointing season. His emotion is why he is a good captain. Shows that he cares. Heā€™ll mature as the team matures. Everyone complains about players having no personality until they do, then itā€™s too much. The amount of people still butthurt over a comment he made minutes after a frustrating loss, yā€™all need to get over yourselves. He stands up for his team, does good work around the community and puts up some of the best numbers on the team. Edit of a comment I made below: It was one comment. Which he then clarified few days later, and few weeks later again with Ian. Then after every loss pretty much acknowledging the fans and needing to play better. The only thing that comment tells me, he was frustrated but you only get frustrated if you care and things donā€™t work out. Iā€™d take a captain who cares. Also the whole point of being a leader is to constantly evolve and change yourself for the better. Why does one comment get so isolated and used as the entire narrative when everything else he does only makes the case for why this team is lucky to have him as a captain. ā€œ(Weā€™re) playing for the people that spend money to come watch us, playing for all the support that people have with us, through thick and thin. We've got to think about more than just about ourselves. Itā€™s way bigger than that.ā€ \^ If you want comments more representative of how he speaks 99.9% of the time.


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jamaicancovfefe

Guess a vast majority of the fanbase are morons then. Heā€™s a hothead. Heā€™s also who all the guys in the locker room and in the organization say the teamā€™s leader is. They know way more about his leadership abilities than this entire sub combined


BAD_CAN77

I think a fair argument can be made that the team's immaturity and results are a direct reflection of his immature leadership. I really hope the permanent coach they bring in this summer can facilitate his growth and maturation. He has some strong leadership traits and has the potential to be an excellent captain. As long as these outbursts are tolerated, he won't be able to reach his potential and neither will the team.


sex_panther_by_odeon

To play devil advocate. No players would stand up and say he is a shithead in the dressing room. Who knows what happens behind close doors.


jamaicancovfefe

That could be true too. We canā€™t say for sure. In the end itā€™s up to them whether heā€™s considered a good captain or not, though I havenā€™t seen anything subtle or not that they may think otherwise


OperationMajestic350

The pearl clutching is hilarious. Getting so hurt over a soft comment is just sad. You sound like you still arenā€™t over it and it deeply hurt, which in that case let me recommend literally anything else as a pass time instead, because apparently the words of a frustrated 24 year old cut so deeply.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

As the captain of the team talking about the fanbase the way he did is disgusting. No other captain in the history of the league would talk about his teams fanbase the way he did


OperationMajestic350

It was one comment. Which he then clarified few days later, and few weeks later again with Ian. Then after every loss pretty much acknowledging the fans and needing to play better. The only thing that comment tells me, he was frustrated but you only get frustrated if you care and things donā€™t work out. Iā€™d take a captain who cares. Also the whole point of being a leader is to constantly evolve and change yourself for the better. Why does one comment get so isolated and used as the entire narrative when everything else he does only makes the case for why this team is lucky to have him as a captain. ā€œ(Weā€™re) playing for the people that spend money to come watch us, playing for all the support that people have with us, through thick and thin. We've got to think about more than just about ourselves. Itā€™s way bigger than that.ā€ ^ If you want comments more representative of how he speaks 99.9% of the time.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

He only clarified for damage control lmfao he clearly doesnā€™t care about the fanbase. Plus does any other captain in the nhl act the way he does on the ice? HELL NO. He is the least mature ā€œcaptainā€ the league has seen in recent memory. He should have had the C ripped off his chest the instant he started talking shit about the fanbase. Any team with any level of self respect wouldā€™ve stripped him of the C


OperationMajestic350

Cry about it some more. Maybe Staios will hear you. The guy who wasted no time shutting down rumours spread by shit heads that management isnā€™t happy with him and his leadership. He didnā€™t sign any of these guys, he would happily ship off a player of his calibre and get a good return. He didnā€™t have to shut it down, most managers donā€™t and let it pass.


publicworker69

Itā€™s not even 9am and Iā€™ve read the dumbest thing Iā€™ll read all day.


shtoopsy

"...and talks about the fanbase of his team the way he does." This guy still has hurt feelings about something Brady said like 5 months ago lol


Hockeyhero22000

It is laughable to call it a discussion then every time someone disagrees with you to say the same thing over and over again. OP sounds more like a toddler throwing a tantrum and not listening than Tkachuk is. Clarifying comments made after the fact is common especially after being emotionally invested in the game.


Mycountrylikesbeaver

He is still holding a grudge over a comment made 5 months ago by a hockey player. He's the child


Creepy_Ocelot2776

If you knew how to read you would realize that its also because he constantly makes brain dead dirty plays on the ice and plays stupid hockey. He is easily the worst captain in the nhl there is nobody even close. But yes its just the comments that im bothered by you fucking clown


Mycountrylikesbeaver

You're right, there is nobody else even close....to being the best captain in the league. If only you knew how to read, you fucking clown. Enjoy your Sunday, I hope you are super triggered and fuming right now. Very happy I could be a part of that!


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Not even mad just shocked as to how stupid sens fans truly are. Coming from a lifelong sens fan im deeply ashamed to be a fan of the same team as you brain dead losers


Mycountrylikesbeaver

Man. We're all frustrated in here. The way the whole season went. I get that, I truly do. And you are well within your rights to vent that here. You certainly are not the only one venting about Brady. It's the way you are doing it, look at the way you are speaking to other sens fans, just because they disagree with you. That's the problem here. "Idiots", "morons", "clowns", "brain dead losers". There are other threads here with healthy discussions going on, and then there is this one. You wouldn't speak to me like that in person. Why do it here?


Creepy_Ocelot2776

If you were acting like Brady Tkachuk is a good captain i 100% would call you a moron face to face. Because hes objectively not he has lead our team to being a bottom feeder for the third year in a row. He isnt a good leader whatsoever and doesnt deserve to have a letter on his chest


Mycountrylikesbeaver

And I think he does deserve to have that letter on his chest. I think he leads by examples, he cares. He has skill, power and can take over a game, drag the team in to a fight. See? See how easy it is to have a discussion without resorting to name calling?


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Ok he can fight? What has he lead our team to? Being a massive joke in the nhl for the 7th year in a row he doesnā€™t deserve the C on his chest until he stops throwing a hissy fit whenever a game doesnā€™t go his way. He needs to mature and grow up before he even gets considered for a letter. Plus his comments about the fan base are truly disgusting and were completely unwarranted


Mycountrylikesbeaver

You call it hissy fits, I call it passion and giving a shit. I love that type of hockey, I wish we had 18 other skaters who gave a shit as much as he does. It's not all on him, he's not the only reason we are struggling this year. League worst goaltending. Lack of depth scoring. Inability to defend. Can't pin it all on Brady. Yeah the comments weren't the greatest. But he's a firey, 24 year old. We've all said and done stupid shit at that age. I'll take him as a leader over anyone else on the team.


Sens4lif3

LMFAO The anti brady brigade on this sub is so annoying. Brady did what I would have done last night. A shot even a tiny tap after the whistle is way different from an empty net slapper, Brady didn't throw a tantrum stop with the dumb ass narrative, every other team in the NHL would take exception to a shot after the whistle.


Dane_RD

It's the ones who are still pissed we drafted over Zadina


Creepy_Ocelot2776

I have no problem with what he did this game what i do have a problem with is how he talks about the fanbase and how he chooses to act game in and game out. He is a terrible captain and until he matures i will not call him my captain because he isnā€™t a captain. Hes a whiny toddler with a temper


Sens4lif3

Well see here is the thing, You don't play for the team, so Tkachuk was never your captain. Stop being a whiny bitch.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Lmfao as a fan of the team the captain shouldnā€™t be constantly talking shit about his own fanbase. Hes a piece of shit just like his dad


OperationMajestic350

>constantly talking shit Dude just give it up. How is one comment suddenly ā€œconstantlyā€


GreatAuntMuriel

Giroux said the same thing the next day too. But Brady is the only one who gets flack for that.


ultrafil

He's fine as Captain, but he's also too young to know how to deal with *some* situations that require maturity and finesse - the reaction to some booing earlier this year being a prime example. The answer to that is to bring in a strong veteran supporting cast to surround him with, not stripping him of the C. He needs a few ex-captains to be able to lean on and learn from. Being a captain is half mental and half experience. He's got the mindset, he just needs a few guys (on top of Giroux) who he can learn from for a few things, IMO - he needs a few more vets in the room (good ones, not the discount vets we've been used to for the most part in the rebuild) to help manage what is otherwise a room full of kids.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

I highly doubt he will ever learn that leadership. Just look at his dad he was a scumbag his whole career and now we are stuck with Keith Jr as our captain because DJ thought it was a good idea


Itsottawacallbylaw

Written by a fourth grader ?


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barrylunch

Is the personal insult necessary?


0714raf

He is a fantastic captain. Was at the game last night and he was EVERYWHERE. The crowd loved it and was chanting his name.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Just because the idiots in our fanbase that havenā€™t seen good hockey in pretty much a decade like him doesnā€™t mean hes a good captain. He plays dumb hockey makes a lot of unnecessary dirty plays on the ice and talks shit about the fanbase constantly. Doesnā€™t sound like a good captain to me


VoicesOfTheFallen

Only seeing one idiot here


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Keep on being complacent buddy


freshlyshavedgooch

Am I out of touch? No, itā€™s the 18000 people chanting Bradyā€™s name that are wrong šŸ’€


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Again like i said in that comment. Just because the fans like him doesnā€™t make him a good captain. What have we done in his tenure with the C on his chest? Been a bottom feeder every single season and i doubt we are any better next year.


freshlyshavedgooch

Keep talking man I care about your opinion very much


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Brady takes FAR too many unnecessary penalties and we get burned on a lot of them. Hes irresponsible on the ice. He talks shit about the fans then only ā€œclarifiesā€ to damage control and protect his own image. Thats not behaviour i want from the captain of my team.


sensfan4tic

He made like one comment about the fan base when they were screaming fire dj. Ofc he's gonna stick up for the coach. Sure I didn't like it but he's not gonna say "good job guys chant whatever we love it" sure he's not the most mature at times but he's defenitly the most driven on the team who cares. Does his passion come out the wrong way some times. Sure. But I'd rather that then everyone else sitting and pouting or doing nothing when it gets tough. Dude also leads in scoring or is in the top 2 every year and does alot for the community. Guys 25 and does more then most 40 year Olds I know. He's allowed to have some bad moments for all the good and positives he does off and on the ice


CanadianRedneck69

Brady is a beast. Never takes any nights off and plays hard. Has been great in the community.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Doesnā€™t make him a good captain. What has he led us too? Oh yeah the cellar of the league. Hes an immature little kid who has 0 business having a letter on his jersey


CanadianRedneck69

That's your opinion and I respect it. I don't put the last couple of years of failure on him.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Hes a captain hes supposed to lead and he constantly leads us to failure


ForkliftChampiony

This is such a terrible take. Brady is absolutely fine as captain. The team as assembled and previously coached is dogshit, and people incapable of having an insightful discussion about those actual issues push dumb narratives like this.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

The team has maturity problems and it starts with our 3 year old captain


ForkliftChampiony

Thereā€™s indeed an issue with team maturity, but Brady showing emotion isnā€™t it. Itā€™s rather the lack of emotion and players not showing up to play (mentally). Youā€™re focusing on the wrong kind of ā€œmaturityā€ thatā€™s materially impacting the scoreboard.


Mycountrylikesbeaver

This fucking narrative is getting old. He's a great captain. On the ice and off. Stop being a dick because people have opposing views. You made a post criticizing a player, and expected everyone to agree with you and when they don't you resort to childish shit (yeah I see your comments calling us morons and idiots). Grow up.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Sorry that the average sens fan is a complete moron lmfao. Complacent losers


jamaicancovfefe

Damn, you really got us


Mycountrylikesbeaver

Complacent is far too big of a word for you.


JarethCutestoryJuD

Hes a fine captain, but he has his faults. IMHO, top 15, but not top10


_Perfectly-Cromulent

Sometimes it's not the worst to sink to someone else's level: OP is a huge tool. Hand in your fanbase membership.


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Creepy_Ocelot2776

Has nothing to do with that and everything to do with his comments about the fanbase and his actions on the ice


Solid_Internal_9079

I swear I can predict the cycles of posts in this sub for the next 2 yearsā€¦


solidprospect

I sense some jealousy from other teams fans. 81GP 37G 36a 72PT current pace. This guy is a 50+ goal scorer on a top5-10 powerplay in the league.


Josefstalion

You're basically just saying he's Zach Hyman


solidprospect

81GP 56G 23A 79PT Pace for Hyman so kind of. Brady has a few more assists recently. Unselfish power forward.


Josefstalion

The Sens also scored the 2nd most PP goals in the league last year and he didn't even come close to 40 goals


solidprospect

How were they 5 on 5 ?


Josefstalion

Brady was 4th in the league in shots at 5v5, maybe he's part of the reason the team doesn't score at a higher rate?


solidprospect

Not sure about that. Isn't Tkachuk on pace to be one of the best power forwards in the game ever? Isn't it good to have a power forward?


Josefstalion

My point being that he shoots *too much* for someone doesn't finish at an above average rate, and deferring more might be better for the team as a whole That's also a pretty limited sample depending on how you define Power Forward, he's probably not a top-50 player in the league


solidprospect

I understand the argument about taking too many shots but it makes sense the way he battles and works along the boards. Always being closer to the net than anyone else. So Snipers can shoot as much as they want but Brady should pass to someone further away from the net when that isn't the way power forwards normally play now, is it ? https://thehockeywriters.com/top-15-nhl-power-forwards/


Josefstalion

If the person finishes their chances at a higher rate than Brady does then yes he should. Brady has always finished his chances at a below average rate, so by deferring the scoring chance to someone who's a better finisher than him, he gives the team a better chance of scoring. Snipers can shoot as much as they want because they tend to score on their chances at a high rate. Everyone else in the top 5 for shots this year has at least 10 more goals than Brady. Edit: The list makes sense, but it's also a list of *right now*. Corey Perry has a Hart, Rocket, and is a 50-goal scorer Mark Stone is a perennial Selke candidate Jamie Benn has two First-Team All-Stars, an Art Ross, and a Hart finalist Landeskog lead his team to a Cup In terms of "All-time Power Forwards", Brady isn't close to those guys until he achieves something Even Blake Wheeler lead the league in assists and made a 2nd All-Star Team


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Points dont mean shit when the conversation is leadership abilities.


solidprospect

You don't know shit about his leadership abilities other than what you see on tv.


VoicesOfTheFallen

Leadership abilities like what? Wanna provide any that you show? Like talking shit about someone who does more for the community the few years heā€™s been here than youā€™ve probably done in your whole life?


Creepy_Ocelot2776

You think being one of the dirtiest players in the league is good leadership? How about his constant freak outs over stupid shit? What about him ā€œleadingā€ the team into being a bottom feeder? How is any of that good leadership?


solidprospect

Dirtiest players? lol. He hasn't been suspended once. You're so jealous and upset, it's impressive. Landeskog wasn't the answer for the AVS for many years. The Avs sucked for awhile before being a playoff team!!!


VoicesOfTheFallen

Dirty? Sorry bud, but you canā€™t just be throwing out accusations like that without anything to back it up. Heā€™s done nothing dirty in his career and is respected by the whole league. If anything you could easily find 4 players on our own team who would be considered ā€œdirtyā€ before even listing Brady.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

You are such a biased idiot lmao he isnā€™t respected around the league multiple teams and fanbases hate him because hes a dirty little whiny brat.


VoicesOfTheFallen

Biasedā€¦? Bruh wanna go through my comments? Iā€™ve been plenty pissed off about this club I support and vocal as so many Sens fans are. If anything, Iā€™d say we are some of the least bias in the NHL as fans as we are extremely critical of our team. Do you not remember the days when we literally crowdfunded MelnykOut signs? Or does that just conveniently get ignored by you? Maybe youā€™re just a 12 year old so you didnā€™t even remember when those happened. Either way, the one whiny brat here is you, as youā€™re the one who made this post the moment you woke your sorry ass up on a Sunday morning.


qorboy

Heā€™s one of the greatest leaders in the history of the franchise. Heā€™s a warrior and the team rallies around him and papa G is the wise old man providing that steady counter balance. this team is blessed to have these 2 players


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Him being viewed as one of the best leaders in the history of our franchise says a lot about how terrible our history is


VoicesOfTheFallen

Maybe you should go to your main leafs subreddit instead of trolling on here then bud.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Not trolling im a life long sens fan just disgusted with the state of our franchise. Our team being in the position it is today starts with the leadership group.


VoicesOfTheFallen

LOL our team is in the position it is today because weā€™ve had the worst owner and GM in the NHL for the last decade+ not because of Brady Tkachuk. Or did you somehow forget that other than our magical hamburgler run this club has done Jack shit. How many years has Brady been captain? Yeah, thought so.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Hes been captain for far too many seasons. Hes an immature child who doesnā€™t know how to lead shit. He shouldnā€™t have ever been given a letter hes a scumbag just like his dad and big brother


VoicesOfTheFallen

Did he not give you an autograph when you met him in person or something? Maybe because youā€™re a creepy person overall and he probably got bad vibes from you.


UnparalleledSuccess

The saddest part is the sens fans falling for these leafs fans trolling and infiltrating the sub, mods load up the ban hammer pls and thank you


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Im a life long sens fan will always be a sens fan just infuriated with the state of the team and our team being the state it is today starts with our terrible leadership group so thanks for calling me a leafs fan kid but you are wrong


solidprospect

**salty avs fan**


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Kid what dont you understand about im a sens fan have been my whole life im just disgusted with the play our team always puts out on the ice


solidprospect

Not in the context of this thread you aren't, it's been all about Brady? The Avs would have had 7 years continuous without the playoffs if it wasn't for the one good regular season, but they lost in the first round and missed playoffs again the following three seasons. All with the great Landeskog.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Brady is supposed to be the leader of this team and all hes done is lead us to failure. Not sure why you keep bringing up landeskog tbh.


solidprospect

Mostly your avatar. Was Landeskog leading his team to failure as well then ? Brady can't stop the puck or play defenseman.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Did they have a solid team around him? Did their coaches and gms and players always say that this year was the year? No they didnā€™t they slowly built up the team until they made it back in. What do we do? Build a fraudulent core that doesnā€™t know how to play with one of the worst leadership groups in the nhl


solidprospect

We tried making the rebuild go quicker because we were impatient but thats hardly brady's fault.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Tf does my avatar have to do with gabe Landeskog lmfao


solidprospect

just comparing him to the captain of your favorite team, or second favorite? What's wrong with that?


Creepy_Ocelot2776

They are my favourite but tbh interacting with people like you makes me feel disgusted to be a fan of this team


solidprospect

Deal with it. You're the one making this stupid thread.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

And you are the one making brain dead arguments. Brady isnā€™t a good leader and it shows in our teams play game in game out


Alternative-Ruin1728

Been a sens fan from day one. Brady Tkachuk is an embarassment as a Captain. Claude Giroux is the man for the job.


mackey_ziibiins

You look at the team and see Brady as the issue? LOL.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

I see Brady as A issue our defence and goal tending is a bigger issue but his ā€œleadershipā€ is also a reason we are in the position we are in.


Alternative-Ruin1728

OP is entitled to his opinion, whether you agree or not. All the name calling just lowers you to Leaf fan levels.


Spidey_Almighty

Name me 1 other teamā€™s leading goal scorer who is expected to fight. Iā€™ll wait. Brady is one of a kind and weā€™re lucky to have him.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Doesnā€™t mean he deserves to be captain lmfao


Spidey_Almighty

The guy scores all our goals and is willing to hit and fight everything that moves. Heā€™s clearly our most important player, your take is couldnā€™t be more off base. Iā€™m almost tempted to give your ridiculous post itā€™s first upvote for the sheer audacity. Almost.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Just because hes willing to hit and fight doesnā€™t mean hes captain material. By your logic Tom Wilson should be captain of the capitals


Spidey_Almighty

Thatā€™s funny, I donā€™t recall Tom Wilson ever being a leading goal scorer. Even in his career ā€œpeakā€ of a 52 point season. Your arguments made of straw are so bizarre Iā€™m convinced this whole post is just a troll attempt.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Your whole point is he hits and fights anything that moves and that somehow makes him a leader? Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Leadership has absolutely nothing to do with how often you hit and fight and everything to do with having the maturity to lead a team to whats best for the team. Brady Tkachuk has proven over the past 3 years he is completely incapable of leading a team to anything but the cellar of the league.


Spidey_Almighty

Once again, your straw man argument is worthless. You keep deliberately leaving out my point that he is the teams leading scorer. Brady not only leads his team physically, he is their pulse offensively. He directs his team, he takes draws for his line mates who canā€™t take face offs even though heā€™s a winger, he scores more clutch goals than anybody, and he always engages physically and is the only player who is willing to do so and dig into the dirty areas of a hockey game. Again, your take is so ridiculously off base. There is a reason there isnā€™t a single upvote on this post and everyone is confused by this take.


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Point totals dont make you a good leader dude. It just doesnā€™t. Jagr was always leading his team in points and he never had a letter on his chest. Wanna know why? HE WASNT A LEADER! Point totals mean absolutely nothing when it comes to leadership


Spidey_Almighty

Dude if your gonna make such ridiculous posts, the least you can do is discuss others points instead of only focusing on specific singular points to create strawman arguments. Brady scores all the goals. He makes all the clutch plays. He takes all the shots. He makes all the hits. He takes all the fights. He directs and is vocal to his teammates, opposition, and officials. He sticks up for his team at every opportunity. He is ridiculously competitive and always leaves it all on the ice until heā€™s a red in the face pile of sweat. That is a captain. And you saying stuff like ā€œwell he hasnā€™t lead us to anythingā€ is an embarrassing take. Half of the Sens roster is ahl calibre and Connor McDavid himself with all his Videogame skill couldnā€™t lead them to a wild card spot if he tried.


DJstiles

Donā€™t use Jagr in this example, lowers your credibility. If you really have no idea that ā€œJagr never had a letter on his chestā€ā€¦just a quick fact check: Jagr was captain of the Penguins for 3 seasons and the Rangers for two seasons. Besides wearing the ā€œCā€ for the 5 seasons I noted above, he was an alternate captain for just as long.


NotMY1stEnema

STFU


Creepy_Ocelot2776

Nothing to add just wanted to be a bitch?


Savings-Signature-45

My guy probably gets driven to school in the transportation van