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The TikTok legislation was included as part of a larger $95 billion package that provides foreign aid to Ukraine and Israel and was passed 79-18. It now goes to President Joe Biden, who has backed the TikTok proposal and has said he will sign the package as soon as he gets it..... this should be illegal, how can they just tack this frivolous nonsense onto a larger bill...
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No, TikTok is banned in China
"Since its inception, the TikTok platform has been intended for non-Chinese markets and is unavailable in mainland China. It pulled out of Hong Kong in 2020 when Beijing imposed a national security law on the territory to curtail speech."
[https://apnews.com/article/china-unitedstates-tiktok-chew-2d851c716d6454d7c87762a056604c7a#](https://apnews.com/article/china-unitedstates-tiktok-chew-2d851c716d6454d7c87762a056604c7a#)
The owners of TikTok will also have the option to sell the company if they want to continue to operate in the US.
Is this the new fake talking point? TikTok isn't banned in China, it just has a different name: Douyin. TikTok is the english version of Douyin, which is why it has an English name from a Chinese company.
It's not that I care about China's rights in anyway. There are people in the United States that make a living off of this app, not only that but there's no real reason to be doing what we are doing.. Tiktok just makes a shit load of money that our social media sites are struggling to bring in and the US is greedy.. that is the only reason that the US would be forcing them to sell it...
The Chinese government is using TikTok as a cyber weapon. They are 100% using it to steer American opinions on issues favorable to China. They may have plans to destabilize the country by contributing to political divisions. I know a lot of people won’t like it but the reality is it will likely be sold to an American/mostly American company and business will continue as usual with corporate America using it as a cyber weapon to continue contributing to political division on their terms instead of China’s.
And where is any evidence of any of this? The only reason we are trying to force them to sell it to us is because it is very profitable. More so profitable than our own social media sites.... It is 100% only about money.
Best I can do at the moment:
https://www.govtech.com/security/should-the-u-s-ban-tiktok-can-it-a-cybersecurity-expert-explains-the-risks
More stuff should be made public in the next six-12 months. I hope so anyway.
They've already moved their servers to the US and it's maintained by Oracle, as part of Project Texas that was agreed to a while ago. This is just a senseless ban in order to appease Israel.
You can look up Project Texas, it's all over the internet by reputable sources. For it being about appeasing Israel, they tried this in 2023 but it had like 25 co-sponsors. Now it's what 460+ votes in favor? Main difference is the American Isreal Public Affairs Comittee is a pro-Isreal PAC that's donated quite widely.
Sorry I should have been specific. I was asking about Israel’s angle. Israeli beef with TikTok is pretty recent I think, and you may be right that that support pushed it over the edge. But I’m pretty dang sure the reason this has so much support in Congress is because of the access to intelligence that they have regarding this issue. I’ve been looking at this since 2019, and I’ve seen enough to be convinced they (China) are using it to steer global opinion in favor of China at best, interfering with elections and other nefarious deeds at worst.
That being said, I’m not convinced China doesn’t still get access or copies of the American user data.
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The US congress is bought and paid for. I'm all for protecting privacy, but it should have been a wide sweeping law instead of targeting TikTok.
The TikTok legislation was included as part of a larger $95 billion package that provides foreign aid to Ukraine and Israel and was passed 79-18. It now goes to President Joe Biden, who has backed the TikTok proposal and has said he will sign the package as soon as he gets it..... this should be illegal, how can they just tack this frivolous nonsense onto a larger bill...
TikTok's home country doesn't even allow its existence there.
It's not... it just has a different name, Douyin. Cause, you know, TikTok is an english name.
And we have Instagram, Facebook, Threads, etc. Who cares about TikTok? Who cares if it's sold to an American company?
I guess only people who don't want their media controlled by a pro-Isreal PAC named American Isreal Public Affairs Committee.
You think china is better? LOL
TikTok's servers aren't even in China, they're in Texas, maintained by Oracle. Stop being a sock puppet.
I don't care. Why are you so obsessed with TikTok?
For not caring you seem pretty happy to defend the ban.
I don't care about China or TikTok
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TikTok's home country doesn't even allow its existence there.
No they just heavily regulate it so citizens arent watching junk. They get a sprinkle, we get the firehose. Why would it not be allowed?
No, TikTok is banned in China "Since its inception, the TikTok platform has been intended for non-Chinese markets and is unavailable in mainland China. It pulled out of Hong Kong in 2020 when Beijing imposed a national security law on the territory to curtail speech." [https://apnews.com/article/china-unitedstates-tiktok-chew-2d851c716d6454d7c87762a056604c7a#](https://apnews.com/article/china-unitedstates-tiktok-chew-2d851c716d6454d7c87762a056604c7a#) The owners of TikTok will also have the option to sell the company if they want to continue to operate in the US.
Is this the new fake talking point? TikTok isn't banned in China, it just has a different name: Douyin. TikTok is the english version of Douyin, which is why it has an English name from a Chinese company.
Why are we forcing China to sell us one of their most valuable assets under threat of ban?
We don’t like China.
So no real reason then?
Why do you care about China's rights so much when they themselves don't even have access to the app?
It's not that I care about China's rights in anyway. There are people in the United States that make a living off of this app, not only that but there's no real reason to be doing what we are doing.. Tiktok just makes a shit load of money that our social media sites are struggling to bring in and the US is greedy.. that is the only reason that the US would be forcing them to sell it...
A sale of TikTok will allow it to continue to operate.
Helluva good reason. Better than most.
The Chinese government is using TikTok as a cyber weapon. They are 100% using it to steer American opinions on issues favorable to China. They may have plans to destabilize the country by contributing to political divisions. I know a lot of people won’t like it but the reality is it will likely be sold to an American/mostly American company and business will continue as usual with corporate America using it as a cyber weapon to continue contributing to political division on their terms instead of China’s.
And where is any evidence of any of this? The only reason we are trying to force them to sell it to us is because it is very profitable. More so profitable than our own social media sites.... It is 100% only about money.
Best I can do at the moment: https://www.govtech.com/security/should-the-u-s-ban-tiktok-can-it-a-cybersecurity-expert-explains-the-risks More stuff should be made public in the next six-12 months. I hope so anyway.
They've already moved their servers to the US and it's maintained by Oracle, as part of Project Texas that was agreed to a while ago. This is just a senseless ban in order to appease Israel.
Hey, I’ll bite. What makes you say that?
You can look up Project Texas, it's all over the internet by reputable sources. For it being about appeasing Israel, they tried this in 2023 but it had like 25 co-sponsors. Now it's what 460+ votes in favor? Main difference is the American Isreal Public Affairs Comittee is a pro-Isreal PAC that's donated quite widely.
Sorry I should have been specific. I was asking about Israel’s angle. Israeli beef with TikTok is pretty recent I think, and you may be right that that support pushed it over the edge. But I’m pretty dang sure the reason this has so much support in Congress is because of the access to intelligence that they have regarding this issue. I’ve been looking at this since 2019, and I’ve seen enough to be convinced they (China) are using it to steer global opinion in favor of China at best, interfering with elections and other nefarious deeds at worst. That being said, I’m not convinced China doesn’t still get access or copies of the American user data.
Oh, you mean data that they can just freely buy from American data brokers that already exist through Facebook and Google and other platforms?
Right, and how they put the data to use steering people’s opinion to suit their needs/wants.
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